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Date:      Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:13 -0700
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com>
To:        David Uhring <duhring@charter.net>
Cc:        Mikhail Teterin <mi@aldan.algebra.com>, Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>, Thomas Stromberg <tstromberg@rtci.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated)
Message-ID:  <397B5995.C2021D9A@urx.com>
References:  <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> <00072314472900.27722@dave>

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David Uhring wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> > Doug White once stated:
> >
> > => Wait!  Smarter then  what?  So it  can  boot NT  and  Win98 for  some
> > => weenies, or,  actually do something  useful (not sure  what, though)?
> > => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other
> > => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes?
> > =
> > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really,
> > =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal.
> >
> > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky...
> >
> > =It's a negligible amount of space.  Just say 'Yes'. :)
> >
> > Althouh, I'm delighted to see my opinion  matter so much :), I don't see
> > the benefit. Making  the loader smarter? To do what?  To play some silly
> > animations, while loading kernel? No thanks...
> >
> >       -mi
> 
> I have to agree with Mikhail.  On a dedicated server, there is no need to
> concern ourselves with future OS additions to the HD.  And I haven't had any
> problems with BIOS's as old as IBM's from 1995, although I suspect that some of
> Compaq's BIOS's may give rise to problems.  My one Compaq box gives a warning
> about running a configuration utility to install Unix, but I can't find it on
> their web site.  Leave the option as is; it ain't broken, don't fix it.

I mostly agree but I'm also someone that had a motherboard that
wouldn't boot a DD formated HD. The bios got to the point of doing and
inquire to the HD and would hang. Add a dos mbr and the SuperMicro
board was happy. Since then, I haven't used DD on IDE's. It may work
on scsi but you may not be so lucky on the new S.M.A.R.T. setup IDE
drives.

Kent

> 
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