From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13:47:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C6C37B8E7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03883; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: <397B5995.C2021D9A@urx.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Uhring Cc: Mikhail Teterin , Doug White , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) References: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> <00072314472900.27722@dave> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Uhring wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > Doug White once stated: > > > > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some > > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? > > => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other > > => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes? > > = > > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > > =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > > > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky... > > > > =It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) > > > > Althouh, I'm delighted to see my opinion matter so much :), I don't see > > the benefit. Making the loader smarter? To do what? To play some silly > > animations, while loading kernel? No thanks... > > > > -mi > > I have to agree with Mikhail. On a dedicated server, there is no need to > concern ourselves with future OS additions to the HD. And I haven't had any > problems with BIOS's as old as IBM's from 1995, although I suspect that some of > Compaq's BIOS's may give rise to problems. My one Compaq box gives a warning > about running a configuration utility to install Unix, but I can't find it on > their web site. Leave the option as is; it ain't broken, don't fix it. I mostly agree but I'm also someone that had a motherboard that wouldn't boot a DD formated HD. The bios got to the point of doing and inquire to the HD and would hang. Add a dos mbr and the SuperMicro board was happy. Since then, I haven't used DD on IDE's. It may work on scsi but you may not be so lucky on the new S.M.A.R.T. setup IDE drives. Kent > > dave > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message