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Date:      Fri, 2 May 1997 10:24:51 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Jamie Bowden <jamie@inna.net>
To:        jgrosch@sirius.com
Cc:        Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>, FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, jmb@freefall.FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SPAM target
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.970502102214.29889B-100000@dolphin.inna.net>
In-Reply-To: <199705020051.RAA04034@superior.mooseriver.com>

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On Thu, 1 May 1997, Josef Grosch wrote:

> superior% traceroute vegasone.com
> traceroute to vegasone.com (206.149.184.20), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
>  1  asmt-a.sirius.com (205.134.231.1)  147.709 ms  147.125 ms  138.992 ms
>  2  gw-288-sm0.sirius.com (205.134.229.254)  148.903 ms  147.263 ms  148.972 ms
>  3  border-sfn-s0-2.sirius.net (205.134.254.9)  148.937 ms  146.450 ms  148.969 ms
>  4  sirius-t1-1-gw.sf.tlg.net (140.174.188.1)  191.185 ms  267.312 ms  338.947 ms
>  5  bordercore1-hssi0-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.13.249)  151.286 ms  156.945 ms  150.805 ms
>  6  * * core3.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.4.17)  159.470 ms
>  7  pacbell-nap.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.202)  157.334 ms  177.423 ms  168.872 ms
>  8  pb-nap.agis.net (198.32.128.19)  170.672 ms  167.438 ms  229.054 ms
>  9  ga002.santaclara4.agis.net (206.84.226.241)  188.815 ms  187.093 ms  178.974 ms
> 10  ga00d.losangeles2.agis.net (206.84.226.246)  181.209 ms  207.183 ms  198.950 ms
> 11  netxs.losangeles2.agis.net (206.62.12.118)  230.739 ms  217.411 ms  218.925 ms
> 12  www.vegasone.com (206.149.184.20)  270.818 ms  226.938 ms  278.979 ms
> superior% 


> I'm going to sent this bozo a note telling him not to spam our lists. A Cc
> to agis.net may help


> Now I remember why I stoped reading netnews. Grrrr

Don't waste your time.  Agis doesn't care about spam.  I still think they 
should be BGP blackholed.  Agis is the single largest source of spam on 
the net.  Places like cyberpromo live on agis.  Agis must be forced to 
change their policies.  Ulf, I believe this is one of your favorite topics?

Jamie Bowden

Network Administrator, TBI Ltd.




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