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Date:      Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:54:45 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Andreas Nilsson <andrnils@gmail.com>
Cc:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Alberto Mijares <amijaresp@gmail.com>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?
Message-ID:  <20140717205445.GC28314@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
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On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:21:17PM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Navdeep Parhar <nparhar@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>=20
> > On 07/17/14 13:12, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > > On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares <amijaresp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi!
> > >>>
> > >>> 3) The binary packages need to work out of the box
> > >>> 4) .. which means, when you do things like pkg install apache, it
> > >>> can't just be installed and not be enabled, because that's a bit of=
 a
> > >>> problem;
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No. Please NEVER do that! The user must be able to edit the files and
> > >> start the service by himself.
> > >
> > > Cool, so what's the single line command needed to type in to start a
> > > given package service?
> >
> > Aren't sysrc(8) and service(8) for this kind of stuff?
> >
>=20
> They sure are.
>=20
> Well, pkg install $service ; sysrc ${service}_enable=3D"YES" would do.
> Although some services have different names than the packge, which is sort
> of annoying.

Maybe service needs to be extended (seriously sysrc ${service}_enable=3D"YE=
S" is
not user friendly) we have service -l that list the services, maybe a servi=
ce
${service} on that create /etc/rc.conf.d/${service} with ${service}_enable=
=3D"YES"
in it and service ${service} off to remove it

maybe service -l could also be extended to show the current status (maybe w=
ith a
-v switch)

but for sure having the service off by default is a good idea :)

regards,
Bapt

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