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Date:      Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:56:45 -0700
From:      Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
To:        Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Quo vadis, -CURRENT? (recent changes to cc & compatibility)
Message-ID:  <20030910165645.GA2839@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3F5F420B.5030202@gmx.net>
References:  <3F5F2774.9010408@gmx.net> <20030910144620.GA2438@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <3F5F420B.5030202@gmx.net>

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On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 05:23:55PM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> Steve Kargl wrote:
> 
> >I have no problems in building the traditional C "hello world"
> >program with "cc -pedantic".
> 
> You're right about that, you'll need a C++ hello world (<iostream>, cout). 
> This is in the archives anyway and (should be) well known.

Yes, it is a well known issue.  The user is getting exactly 
what they wanted when she gave -pedantic to g++.
 
> >>(why could 
> >>this change not have been made _after_ 4.9 is out the door, btw.? Or 
> >>before 5.0-R FWIW.)
> >
> >
> >4.9 and 5.0-R are independent branch.  By your logic we should wait to 
> >4.10 or 4.11 or 4.12 or ... before any substantial change can be made
> >to -CURRENT.
> 
> The point is that is isn't wise to commit a change like the -pthread 
> deprecation that breaks many ports just before a ports-freeze.

Which threads library should -pthread link to your app (libc_r,
libkse, or libthr) on a 5.x system?

> 
> >The reason gcc-3.3.1 was committed before 5.0-R should
> >be fairly obvious.
> 
> I was concerned with the -pthread deprecation.

Why?  The portmgr can tag the ports collection at any point in
time before or after the -pthread deprecation date.  Additionally,
your initial email started with your whining about -pedantic a
and "Hello world" programs, which is completely orthogonal to 
-pthread.  

-- 
Steve



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