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Date:      24 Aug 2002 19:37:16 +0400
From:      "Vladimir B. " Grebenschikov <vova@sw.ru>
To:        "Vladimir B.   " Grebenschikov <vova@sw.ru>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Mark Santcroos <marks@ripe.net>, Soeren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, Martin Blapp <mb@imp.ch>, Don Lewis <dl-freebsd@catspoiler.org>, ktsin@acm.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Memory corruption in CURRENT
Message-ID:  <1030203436.908.27.camel@vbook.express.ru>
In-Reply-To: <1030100999.888.18.camel@vbook.express.ru>
References:  <200208220909.g7M99NcS077303@freebsd.dk> <3D64B005.6657A3B5@mindspring.com> <20020822100014.GA17143@ripe.net> <3D64BA1F.B3C8C8E0@mindspring.com> <20020822102553.GA17453@ripe.net>  <3D64C9C2.30A37BF8@mindspring.com>  <1030100999.888.18.camel@vbook.express.ru>

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=F7 Fri, 23.08.2002, =D7 15:09, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=
=C1=CC:

> =F7 Thu, 22.08.2002, =D7 15:23, Terry Lambert =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=CC:
> > Mark Santcroos wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 03:17:03AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > > Mark Santcroos wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 02:33:57AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > > > >       options DISABLE_PSE
> > > > > >       options DISABLE_PG_G
> > > > >
> > > > > Coming up next in this theater :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > btw, how does the report that using the other compiler fixed ever=
ything
> > > > > for KT fit in?
> > >=20
> > > It looks indeed like it is a 'winner'. The buildworld is still runnin=
g but
> > > getting further already than the previous 10.
> >=20
> > Ugh!  Wait until it seems to work for a statistically significant
> > sample size, and for more than one person before calling it "happy"!
> >=20
> > Also, I'm not sure looking at the code whether or not the PG_G is
> > truly significant, or just preterbs the workaround.  The problem
> > I've referred to in my "hunch" here is actually related solely to
> > the PSE, but with the recent code reorganization in locore.s, etc.,
> > it could have become more significant.
> >=20
> >=20
> > > > Coincidentally.  It's hard to trigger the bug, so it's easy to
> > > > work around it accidently.
> > >=20
> > > Thats very true indeed. I can take that as a good 'explanation'.
> > >=20
> > > I remember you talking about this PSE problems earlier and more often=
. Is
> > > it fixable? I assume we would like to turn these options back on as t=
hey
> > > improve performance don't they?
> >=20
> > Yes and yes, but it could be pretty ugly.  It would be better to
> > get more data from people who are seeing the problem.  It may be
> > that it's just similar symptoms and more than one proot cause,
> > etc., so I'm pretty loathe to make any assumptions.=20
>=20
> I have experience problem like this, after successful boot my notebook=20
> (SONY VAIO z505s) can panic in more or less random place under heavy
> load, often while gdm login (gnome startup not easy task).
>=20
> One of backtraces below, I have more or less stable panic (aprox. 2 of 3
> tries - panic). I don't run buildworld on netebook often.
>=20
> I will try DISABLE_PSE and DISABLE_PG_G

Yes, with these options, I have no "regular" panics.

Just my two cents.

> Vladimir B. Grebenschikov
> vova@sw.ru, SWsoft, Inc.

--=20
Vladimir B. Grebenschikov
vova@sw.ru, SWsoft, Inc.

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