From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Jun 27 21:15:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D386A1012178 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ignoranthack.me (ignoranthack.me [199.102.79.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E28673D8E; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (67-0-234-146.albq.qwest.net [67.0.234.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sbruno@ignoranthack.me) by mail.ignoranthack.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8CE61AF636; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 13:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Building and Iterating To: Bryan Drewery , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org References: <686cb08d-5648-52f4-a95e-2faf3ea20bef@FreeBSD.org> From: Sean Bruno Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=sbruno@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFk+0UEBCADaf4bgxxKvMOhRV5NPoGWRCCGm49d6+1VFNlQ77WsY/+Zvf95TPULdRlnG w648KfxWt7+O3kdKhdRwnqlXWC7zA2Qt0dRE1yIqOGJ4jp4INvp/bcxWzgr0aoKOjrlnfxRV bh+s0rzdZt6TsNL3cVYxkC8oezjaUkHdW4mFJU249U1QJogkF8g0FeKNfEcjEkwJNX6lQJH+ EzCWT0NCk6J+Xyo+zOOljxPp1OUfdvZi3ulkU/qTZstGVWxFVsP8xQklV/y3AFcbIYx6iGJ4 5L7WuB0IWhO7Z4yHENr8wFaNYwpod9i4egX2BugbrM8pOfhN2/qqdeG1L5LMtXw3yyAhABEB AAHNN1NlYW4gQnJ1bm8gKEZyZWVCU0QgRGV2ZWxvcGVyIEtleSkgPHNicnVub0BmcmVlYnNk Lm9yZz7CwJQEEwEKAD4WIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbAwUJBaOagAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAwIBAAIeAQIXgAAKCRC95PX+ibX8ttKTCACFKzRc56EBAlVotq02EjZP SfX+unlk6AuPBzShxqRxeK+bGYVCigrYd1M8nnskv0dEiZ5iYeND9HIxbpEyopqgpVTibA7w gBXaZ7SOEhNX1wXwg14JrralfSmPFMYni+sWegPMX/zwfAsn1z4mG1Nn44Xqo3o7CfpkMPy6 M5Bow2IDzIhEYISLR+urxs74/aHU35PLtBSDtu18914SEMDdva27MARN8mbeCDbuJVfGCPWy YHuy2t+9u2Zn5Dd+t3sBXLM9gpeaMm+4x6TNPpESygbVdh4tDdjVZ9DK/bWFg0kMgfZoaq6J l0jNsQXrZV3bzYNFbVw04pFcvA2GIJ7xzsBNBFk+0UEBCADIXBmQOaKMHGbc9vwjhV4Oj5aZ DdhNedn12FVeTdOXJvuTOusgxS29lla0RenHGDsgD08UiFpasBXWq/E+BhQ19d+iRbLLR17O KKc1ZGefoVbLARLXD68J5j4XAyK+6k2KqBLlqzAEpHTzsksM9naARkVXiEVcrt6ciw0FSm8n kuK3gDKKe93XfzfP+TQdbvvzJc7Fa+appLbXz61TM1aikaQlda8bWubDegwXbuoJdB34xU1m yjr/N4o+raL0x7QrzdH+wwgrTTo+H4S2c1972Skt5K5tbxLowfHicRl23V8itVQr3sBtlX4+ 66q+Apm7+R36bUS/k+G45Sp6iPpxABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYWIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbDAUJBaOagAAKCRC95PX+ibX8trrIB/9Pljqt/JGamD9tx4dOVmxSyFg9 z2xzgklTLuDgS73MM120mM7ao9AQUeWiSle/H0UCK7xPOzC/aeUC4oygDQKAfkkNbCNTo3+A qDjBRA8qx0e9a/QjDL+RFgD4L5kLT4tToY8T8HaBp8h03LBfk510IaI8oL/Jg7vpM3PDtJMW tUi2H+yNFmL3NfM2oBToWKLFsoP54f/eeeImrNnrlLjLHPzqS+/9apgYqX2Jwiv3tHBc4FTO GuY8VvF7BpixJs8Pc2RUuCfSyodrp1YG1kRGlXAH0cqwwr0Zmk4+7dZvtVQMCl6kS6q1+84q JwtItxS2eXSEA4NO0sQ3BXUywANh Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 15:15:31 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PK2QOX0QXKXKNyu2r85rOcG9gMZGGgNEL" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:15:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --PK2QOX0QXKXKNyu2r85rOcG9gMZGGgNEL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Rw068grnuDJiUmJQ84nVh8CHtFaxrpyDu"; protected-headers="v1" From: Sean Bruno To: Bryan Drewery , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Building and Iterating References: <686cb08d-5648-52f4-a95e-2faf3ea20bef@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: --Rw068grnuDJiUmJQ84nVh8CHtFaxrpyDu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/27/18 11:08, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 6/20/2018 2:00 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 6/1/2018 10:20 AM, Sean Bruno wrote: >>> Before I dive into the mk files of a buildworld, I'd like to describe= >>> "what I want" so as to start a discussion of my goal. >>> >>> 1. If I select no toolchain (WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN), but clang needs to = be >>> built, only build a toolchain that targets the ARCH being requested. >>> >>> 2. If I select no toolchain (WITHOUT_TOOLCHAIN), but clang needs to = be >>> built, give me a knob to turn that aborts the build with a meaningful= >>> message that lets me know I need to update the toolchain on my buildb= ox. >>> >> >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11077 has this but I suspect it's wildly >> stale already. >> >> Also having a knob like this would ultimately lead to someone making >> their /usr/bin/cc less useful for optimizations like WITH_SYSTEM_COMPI= LER. >> >>> 3. If the boostrap toolchain needs to be built in the normal case, o= nly >>> target the ARCH being requested. I understand that we "want" a CC >>> installed that targets all architectures and this is something I agre= e with. >>> >> >> Hm yes there is no real reason to have multi-arch support in the >> WORLDTMP compiler. Though I do have a pending patch to build clang >> *once* for universe that relies on this full-arch-support behavior but= >> I'm sure it's trivial to continue using it for that piece. >> >> >=20 > For the archives, a lot of this is effectively done now. See > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2018-June/069994.ht= ml >=20 >=20 Good lord Bryan. 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