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Date:      Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:32:56 -0500
From:      Marina Brown <mbrown@btnaccess.com>
To:        Johnson David <DavidJohnson@Siemens.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: my thoughts on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <200403020932.56458.>
In-Reply-To: <200403011329.25897.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com>
References:  <20040301210843.64256.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com> <200403011329.25897.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com>

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I've taught a number of non-technical people to install the BSD's and som=
e=20
linux's. With almost no exeptions they preferred the simpler installs.=20
Slackware installs as well as OpenBSD installs were what they liked best.

They did enjoy the Red Hat installs, but they liked the simple installs=20
better.

It's easy to want to look like windows, but let's face it. An Operating s=
ystem
cannot be all things to all people.

Marina Brown


On Monday 01 March 2004 04:29 pm, Johnson David wrote:
> On Monday 01 March 2004 01:08 pm, Scott I. Remick wrote:
> > 3) Old cruft. Apparently a lot of people are too scared of the whole
> > ncurses/sysinstall beast to dare revamping it. It works, and it's
> > tried-and-tested. It's easier and safer to make minor modifications
> > to support new versions than to overhaul it.
> >
> > I wouldn't mind a GUI option, if there were enough people to maintain
> > it, but it'd need to only be an option (leaving the current ncurses
> > install or some other equivalently-easy text-based install for the
> > die-hards). And then you'd have to make sure there were people around
> > enough to support 2 separate install scripts (unless a text-based one
> > could be automatically generated from the GUI one somehow, using
> > templates).
>
> The sysinstall implementation started out as a quick-n-dirty hack, but
> unfortunately it lived on. I've been pondering the solution to this for
> a few months now. Frankly I don't see the absolute need for a GUI
> installer, but it's certainly a nice thing to have. But a text mode
> installer is essential. So the first step is to get a well designed
> text mode installer.
>
> The libh project (sysinstall replacement) is dead. I've have some ideas
> on this topic, but it's a bit more than I can do on my own. However,
> the only way stuff gets done in FreeBSD is for someone to get an itch
> and do it, so I'll probably end up doing something soon.
>
> David
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