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Date:      Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:44:10 +1000 (EST)
From:      Andrew Kenneth Milton <akm@zeus.theinternet.com.au>
To:        smelekov@vniigazmain.gazprom.ru (Serguei V. Melekhov)
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: TCPdump
Message-ID:  <199902081144.VAA27665@zeus.theinternet.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <36BE9C67.2F79B121@vniigazmain.gazprom.ru> from "Serguei V. Melekhov" at "Feb 8, 99 11:12:24 am"

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+----[ Serguei V. Melekhov ]---------------------------------------------
| Hey,
| 
|     I vote 'NO'. We shouldn't let someone install bsd with default
| bpf enabled option. Cause alot of lamers don't even know what r they
| doing.

Gee why don't we just make it harder to install then? Or require
a licence to drive a computer... no wait! A splash screen that just
has CAVEAT EMPTOR on it when it boots. Oooh oooh I know! Have a root
password automatially generated by the system when it installs and
*force* them to read the documentation to find out how to get the 
root password (coz of course the console would be 'insecure', although
getting to booting single user probably lowers your lamer quotient).

Actually it's too dangerous to allow people to have any networking at
all by default, so it shouldn't have any network drivers by default
either, Bah, make the boot floppy a 'freedos' boot floppy, until they
read the documentation to find out where the real boot floppies are.

And then everyone can stop answering -questions email...

There might be a lot of good reasons not to include bpf in the
default kernel, but, "there are a lot of lamers" is not a good one.

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