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Date:      Sat, 10 Apr 2004 09:27:05 +0100
From:      Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.org>
Cc:        Nate Lawson <nate@root.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/random Makefile src/sys/dev/random harvest.c hash.c hash.h nehemiah.c nehemiah.h probe.c randomdev.c randomdev.h randomdev_soft.c randomdev_soft.h yar
Message-ID:  <20040410082705.GR710@empiric.dek.spc.org>
In-Reply-To: <200404091834.i39IYi0w060497@grimreaper.grondar.org>
References:  <20040409103618.A48723@root.org> <200404091834.i39IYi0w060497@grimreaper.grondar.org>

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On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 07:34:44PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
> Nate Lawson writes:
> > This is a huge mistake.  At the very minimum, I take it you never read =
our
> > paper.
> >=20
> > http://www.cryptography.com/resources/whitepapers/index.html
>=20
> Actually, I have. I read it again, now, to be sure. Nothing it says
> suggests that what I did here is a "huge mistake". Nearest I get is
> the suggestion that the output from the on-chip RNG is used as a source
> for a hash function (like Yarrow). I feel that is overkill, and that
> the output of the on-chip RNG is sufficient.

I'm inclined to trust your judgement here on this, Mark, but Nate does have
a valid point; we need to be sure that the entropy sources are of sufficien=
tly
high quality or we risk compromising the system.

If you could cite some independent tests for the VIA C3 on-chip RNG that
would be very helpful to all.

Regards,
BMS

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