From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 07:23:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70DD1065670; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859A08FC12; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 07:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pB27NnXK089212; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pB27NnLl089211; Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:23:49 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-current , Max Khon Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:23:49 -0000 On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 10:59:59PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: > On 12/01/2011 22:41, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > Having a set of profiled libraries in-sync with the static > > and shared libraries allows one to run the profiler on their > > code when someone changes a library and that change causes > > a dramatic change in the performance of one's code. > > And as Max pointed out in his OP, that only applies to a tiny fraction > of our users, or even our developers. If you want to use them, turn the > knob. Not only do I want to use them, I do use use profiled libraries. All those changes to libm that I've submitted over the years have been run through the profile. More importantly, we are discussion freebsd-current. I would hope that the other developers profile their changes to system before committing. > > > PS: David was not complaining about "fixing a 17 year old bug". > > He was stating that a single day of discussion changing > > a 17 year old practice seems a little too brief. > > If it's a good idea, it's a good idea no matter how many different ways > we flog it. :) > I think it is a horrible idea. Perhaps, we should discuss the technical issues before you start yet another bikeshed (see your recent posts concerning the ports repo for your hypocricy). -- Steve