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Date:      Fri, 21 Aug 2020 19:17:55 -0400
From:      Aryeh Friedman <>
To:        David Christensen <>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <>
Subject:   Re: very slight OT: creating a *bootable* MSDOS7 memstick
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:34 PM David Christensen <>

> On 2020-08-21 13:13, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:43 PM David Christensen <
> > wrote:
> >> Yes, I am serious.  Time equals money.  Waste another 5 hours of your
> >> time if do not believe me.  Repeat until you do.
> >>
> >
> > Thank you for pointing out what is wrong with certain parts of the
> industry
> > (almost always found in organizations that have more money then common
> > sense)... throw money at a problem instead of *ACTUALLY* understanding
> and
> > fixing it right...  news for you not everyone is made out of money... and
> > even if I was it would take longer than 5 hours to find a suitable
> machine,
> > buy it, have it shipped, etc.
> I believe the actual problem is that the software requires an MS-DOS 7
> computer and you do not own one.

Buying a new/used computer is simply not worth it; perhaps you missed the
fact there is *NO* data I need to recover from the drive. I only want to
revive the drive it self in order to save a trip to the store which would
itself take 5 hours. (I refuse to buy hardware mail order).   If I do end
up going to the store I will be buying a drive for around $50 that is twice
the capacity of the one I am attempting to unbrick.

To repeat: I need a MS-DOS7 machine for likely no more than 10 mins to
revive a SSD and that's IT!  The only reason I need DOS7 at all is the
drive's firmware can only be repaired/upgraded with the above program.
Once I do that I don't need MS-DOS7 for anything.   Let's add something
else is the program does not work on anything newer than XP thus it is
unlikely installing something newer (something that can only be done once I
repair the drive) on the machine (the one I am currently writing this reply
on BTW) will also work (read catch-22, since the goal is to make my current
FreeBSD machine dual boot with the repaired drive).

> I believe that buying an MS-DOS 7 computer is how to fix the problem
> right, where "right" is defined as lowest total cost of ownership (TCO),
> taking into account the monetary value of time.
> Windows XP computers are readily available for under US$100 on eBay,
> Craig's List, recycling companies, etc..

Spend $100 to fix a $30 drive (sounds really smart to me!) and then never
use the thing I spent $100 on ever again!.... And yes I know where to buy a
used machine *IF* that was the right answer.

> If you have more time than money, look for garage sales and/or ask
> around for people who have old Windows XP computers they want to get rid
> of.

I would be spending several hundred in time *AND* money if I took any part
of your advice and for what to revive a $30 drive that may or may not be
revival.. and you call me insane??!?!
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer,

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