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Date:      Sat, 25 Apr 2020 05:57:23 +0200
From:      Ralf Mardorf <>
Subject:   Re: Why are so many FreeBSD haters on this list? (Troll bait)
Message-ID:  <20200425055723.00e6f974@archlinux>
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:56:15 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>[snip] Yes there are ups and downs but that is true of all software and
>the downs are normally more controlled and easier to deal with stuff in
>ports then as binaries on Linux; if comes to worst I can always fix
>small issues right in the source. [snip] I would rather use M$ then

You can fix small issues right in the source of *BSD as well as in the
source of Linux. This is not an advantage of *BSD over Linux, but it's
an advantage of *BSD and Linux over Windows.

You are absolutely unqualified.

Note, that I feel the need to correct your constantly spread
misinformation about Linux or licenses does not imply that I hate
FreeBSD or any other operating system, neither does it imply, that I
feel confident with Linux or any other operating system.

I also do not wish to discuss with you, I only want to correct the
misinformation in the interests of readers.

I recommend objectiveness when deciding what computer bundle to chose.
It's a always a bundle, made of hardware, operating system, user

Some people are using computers as tools. Tools must fulfil several

Some people are using computers for self purpose, if so it becomes a
belief. Those people do not know, they belief and claim that their
belief is knowledge.

Usually the best cutting tool for an artist is a scalpel.
Is a scalpel also the best cutting tool for primary-school pupil making

Linux (the kernel), Linux (the core components, yes some distros
distinguish between system components in a similar way as FreeBSD does
and to keep a system stable, they treat different components in
different ways), Linux (the user apps) aren't binaries in the first
place. E V E N Linux distros such as Ubuntu provide to build re-edited
packages, while several other distros, Arch Linux is one of them,
follow an approach that is way closer (close but different) to FreeBSD.

"The Arch build system is a ports-like system for building and
packaging software from source code. While pacman is the specialized
Arch tool for binary package management (including packages built with
the ABS), ABS is a collection of tools for compiling source into
installable .pkg.tar.xz packages.

Ports is a system used by *BSD to automate the process of building
software from source code. The system uses a port to download, unpack,
patch, compile, and install the given software. A port is merely a
small directory on the user's computer, named after the corresponding
software to be installed, that contains a few files with the
instructions for building and installing the software from source. This
makes installing software as simple as typing make or make install
clean within the port's directory.

ABS is a similar concept. A part of ABS is a SVN repository and an
equivalent Git repository. The repository contains a directory
corresponding to each package available in Arch Linux. The directories
of the repository contain a PKGBUILD file (and sometimes other files),
and do not contain the software source nor binary. By issuing makepkg
inside a directory, the software sources are downloaded, the software
is compiled, and then packaged within the build directory. Then you can
use pacman to install the package." - 

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