From owner-cvs-all Thu Nov 15 23: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD6A37B416; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAG70KM26625; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8CD380A; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Warner Losh Cc: Steve Kargl , Bill Fumerola , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/gx if_gx.c if_gxreg.h if_gxvar.h In-Reply-To: <200111160638.fAG6c6737514@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:00:19 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011116070019.CC8CD380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20011115221258.A80419@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Steve Kargl w rites: > : Would you encourage someone to do a binary upgrade > : without reading about the changes in the system? > : You're grasping at straws. > > User expectations are such that they don't expect device drivers to > randomly disapper. > > I don't know if the wx community is small enough to worry about this > or not. Personally, I can deal with the MFC. I could even deal with it being added to GENERIC instead of wx. But I dont see any improvement to the user experience by yanking the working wx driver. ifconfig will attempt to autoload if_wx.ko if it's present. If we "remove" wx from the system, then /modules/if_wx.ko will go stale. That will cause more problems than is worth. If anybody is really worried that wx will cause problems, then add a "warning" entry to the conf/files file telling people that its deprecated or whatever. But I dont see benefit in removing it outright from -stable. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message