Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:12:21 -0700 From: "Caleb Walker" <cwalker@cwalk.org> To: "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: [Fwd: APOLOGIES GIVEN TO ALL]] Message-ID: <000701c02da8$87a643b0$0a01a8c0@walker> References: <39D96942.90E42D35@home.com>
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Sounds to me like there are some people that need to be K-lined from the mailing list for a little while. Jeez! ----- Original Message ----- From: "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com> To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: APOLOGIES GIVEN TO ALL]] > this is the kind of person i adore. they have probably never even dealt with the issue > that i wrote about. the answer is not in the book, and neither is the web address that > i was later given. but somehow i am supposed to be clairvoiant. > and this is supposed to inspire appreciation. so much for the shortcomings of my > intellectual ability. ;-) if i could only be as bright as a goblin. oh to be a man! > ====================================================================== > Goblin wrote: > > > You are quite stupid if you think ANYONE is going to hold your greasy > > little poodle paw through your ineptitude in your problem while you're > > as rude as you are... > > > > It seems you waste more time in this thread complaining about it than > > goggle-searching for answers and finding out for yourself. > > > > You're so obviously a newbie (and a punk) that no one can even take > > you seriously. > > > > On 10/02, xavian anderson macpherson rearranged the electrons to read: > > > wyrdwulf@catskill.net wrote: > > > > > > > Xavian: > > > > > > > > Freebsd is an operating system. You may be required to install it. It's > > > > rather different from linux (I use Debian myself) and requires a learning curve. I > > > > don't think the vinum program for fbsd easily adapts to a linux system. If you > > > > are proposing to "adapt" freebsd's "vinum" to SuSe I'm not sure it can be done. > > > > Netscape is notorious for bugs, so I'd suspect netscape before linux. I'd also > > > > check the SuSe Linux list to see if your problems are unique. > > > > YAST is wonderful but I like Debian. > > > > > > it may be netscape, but i have been having problems that have nothing to do with > > > netscape. > > > > > > you didn't read my email very well. i don't want vinum for linux. nor was i > > > `proposing to adapt it to suse'. frankly, to all concerned; i would rather not use > > > any linux program. but the reality is that there are some holes in freebsd. if there > > > weren't any (holes), no one would ever port programs from linux (or anything else for > > > that matteres) to freebsd. the reality is that freebsd does not and may never have > > > the commercial support prevalent in linux. the very nature of freebsd tends to ensure > > > this. linux is rapidly becoming the microsft of the unix-wannabe community. the > > > propensity of proprietary distributions for profit is what's driving this. even linux > > > suffers compared to windows, even more so than apple. the only chance that freebsd > > > will ever have is to make redhat linux rpms directly portable to freebsd without any > > > intervention by the end user. > > > > > > as i pointed out to someone else, the redhat rpm manager is capable of converting > > > tarballs into rpm packages. what we need is a devoted rpm manager for freebsd, that > > > will handle ALL of the conversion requirements from linux to freebsd. you are already > > > a step ahead of linux. i'd just like to see us take even larger steps forward. and i > > > can just see the rage that some of you will have at the suggestion that freebsd should > > > adopt linux as one of it's own. frankly i don't care too much for segregation, not in > > > any form. and all segregation begins in the mind. it is a refusal to think beyond > > > your own exclusive box. to me, the foundation of freedom (free as in bsd) has to be > > > inclusivity. it is the humility to look beyond oneself to consider the expansiveness > > > of ones greater community. yes i have the capacity to rant, just like anyone else. i > > > try however to make sure that whatever i am ranting about, conforms to reality. if it > > > doesn't, i definately welcome the fact being brought to my attention. i don't mind > > > being told that i am wrong, in fact i look forward to it. i would be a fool to think > > > anyother way. i cherish truthfulness too much, to place my own ego above it. i often > > > find myself expressing views that are nothing less than bigoted. when i do, i > > > immediately question my right to have such a view. and the very fact that i recognize > > > that is wrong, obligates me to forsaking it. when i find myself apartied to values or > > > concepts that abrogate the truth, not as i see it but as defined by a rigorous > > > examination of the facts, no matter how inconvient to myself, I CHANGE! this is not > > > hog wash. it is what i live by. and i examine myself and everything (especially what > > > i buy) around me by that level of scrutiny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, all caps means you are shouting. Ver-r-ry unpleasant. > > > > > > > > Eric Wolven > > > > > > > > On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:14:14 xavian anderson macpherson wrote: > > > > > I AM SORRY FOR MY REMARKS. I DIDN'T NEED TO SAY WHAT I SAID THE WAY I > > > > > SAID IT, but i can send anyone copies of an email i got from someone > > > > > who was quite sarcastic when there was no need to be! he has since > > > > > changed his tone. so i am doing the same. AGAIN, I AM SORRY! i am > > > > > just a little bit concerned because i am getting conflicting answers in > > > > > the emails i have recieved privately. some of you have been very > > > > > helpful and i am VERY THANKFUL AND IMPRESSED with the general tone of > > > > > thie remarks i have seen. > > > > > > > > > > > does this mean that i was shouting when i said i was`VERY THANKFUL AND IMPRESSED'? or > > > maybe i was shouting when i said `AGAIN, I AM SORRY', `I AM SORRY FOR MY REMARKS. I > > > DIDN'T NEED TO SAY WHAT I SAID THE WAY I SAID IT'? there is a difference between > > > shouting and simply making a statement of stressed emphasis. SO LET ME SHOUT THIS > > > VERY CLEARLY. IT IS THE INABILITY OR REFUSAL TO LOOK BEYOND THE WORDS AND SEE THE > > > LANGUAGE. IT IS THE MEANING OF THE WORD THAT DEFINES THE LANGUAGE. don't be so short > > > sighted. people all too often only see what they want to, and ignore the message that > > > is presented to them. it it easier that way to absolve oneself of any complicity they > > > may (most always) share in the situation that exists. but god help us, if we have to > > > declare responsibility. > > > > > Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT. You feel sleepy. Notice how > > restful it is to watch the cursor blink. Close your eyes. The opinions > > stated above are yours. You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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