From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 00:37:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E538E106566C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnodal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B965F8FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so1385160pzk.7 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:37:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aWlUcj8vJdC68wfD/0b9ppsXk1hcJPk2F4Ws8kDiK9o=; b=p99j9MkPU1n95mp4h+XkkwkuamoOwfcXdXWJPEYrp0aQ4DVXPiY+PlWEfZAEtcxcdw LlEc4bNF2gbMScvaYX5HVtUs3qPuEBMBX15QqsJJjRuFw8bgq2nJfYm3af+yISZ2dKmp kZ6pVLsoYC8kUcl+vkoUrRfyiPtqfuoiXPncc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fM6PjRawkhJOzfAKPSOrVzs23SDYGSGKRjfPmFhuqxUML9gWyeNtOBrpSMnj2ad953 UWjTEPVNG9fSSqttiyBskaxtp7Yef0HbTctpBGkfxLuNOdk7bSOD9y4vJEVB2hftv55t xP8MzglLl3QWigcDqeH7B7nhy4pWBnvcwDwB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.187.7 with SMTP id k7mr10081850waf.106.1257640672094; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:37:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091107202052.GA92497@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <9d972bed0911060931k4ee2a5b7n9d62db23beeb6367@mail.gmail.com> <9d972bed0911070839q3f9ded02q40de4637278bcec9@mail.gmail.com> <20091107202052.GA92497@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> From: Roger Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:37:32 -0500 Message-ID: <9d972bed0911071637i5c33e38crc64c021a1890e218@mail.gmail.com> To: Frank Shute , Roger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Help understanding basic FreeBSD concepts (ports, updates, jails) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:37:53 -0000 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > You mentioned lsof but there is a utility in base which you probably > don't know about called fstat(1), which does a lot of what lsof does. > Thank you for the tip. I will definitely look into it. > IIRC, the sources for 7.2 should be on the CD (run sysinstall(8) after > sticking the CD in). That will save you from downloading all the > sources. > > Then update the sources with csup(1) using the correct tag: RELENG_7_2 > > There's a supfile, /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile, which > you can change the default host and cvs tag of and it should work. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > goes into the details. > > > Regards, > > -- > > =A0Frank > > =A0Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 01:21:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3751065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EEA88FC1C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA81LK3u005229 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:21:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:21:20 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200911080121.nA81LKhQ005228@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:21:26 -0000 I would like to install science/gnudatalanguage but have been running into various obstacles. Lars Engels very kindly just fixed one of them (devel/lasi) (Thanks, Lars!), so now I'm on to the next one, which may not be a showstopper, but it's at least a nuisance. One of the gnudatalanguage dependencies is math/py-numpy, which, in turn, depends upon math/atlas. However, I have math/atlas-devel installed and do not wish to revert to an older, slower version of the ATLAS library. Adding a "-x atlas-\*" onto the portmaster command to build math/py-numpy fails to prevent portmaster from trying to build math/atlas. Creating a /var/db/pkg/atlas-3.8.3_1,1/+IGNOREME file in addition doesn't help. How can I force math/py-numpy to accept the already installed math/atlas-devel libraries? Thanks in advance for any help! Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 02:40:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE4B1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D7B8FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA82dw6G059327 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:40:46 -0000 hey guys, my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out. the one computer buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port iogear. i did and he installed it. it was .LT. sixty bux and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] altho i did type down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare you. nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something i could more readily use. --i'll post the entire story on my freebsd pages in time. my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here. it is installed to as far as i can install it. trouble is that i see on the dell screen "Keyboard failure" and a message to press F2 to setup. the kvm has the old ps2 plugs and no adaptors to USB. i have the dell kybd here, come to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down and muck around and test. what's your best guess, folks? the computer parts stores around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it. any thoughts on this? i think i would need at least 547 pain meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might drowse off gary [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.000000000001s:) to change ports. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 03:17:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93862106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C0C8FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646F01CCA5; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:17:23 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4AF63843.1000403@hdk5.net> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:17:23 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:17:24 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > hey guys, > > my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks > ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out. the one computer > buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port > iogear. i did and he installed it. it was .LT. sixty bux > and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] altho i did type > down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare > you. nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something > i could more readily use. --i'll post the entire story on my > freebsd pages in time. > > my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here. it is installed to as far > as i can install it. trouble is that i see on the dell screen > > "Keyboard failure" > > and a message to press F2 to setup. the kvm has the old ps2 > plugs and no adaptors to USB. i have the dell kybd here, come > to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down > and muck around and test. > > what's your best guess, folks? the computer parts stores > around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an > adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it. > > any thoughts on this? i think i would need at least 547 pain > meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might > drowse off > > gary > > > [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.000000000001s:) > to change ports. > Aloha Gary, Radio Shack has a converter from PS2 to usb for stuff like that. I bought a kit of converters from Home Depot her in Honolulu for the same purpose. The KVM switch I have in the server room is PS2 but has little switches on the front that change the mouse , monitor and keyboard with a light pressure. Even a pencil with an eraser on it could be used to change from one of any of eight ports. Send me a picture of the setup you have and I'll see if I can figure out a way to work it for you. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 03:19:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB56D1065700 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBD18FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so1435555pwj.3 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:19:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=LxARrZDVShBOM7CHl0K4syQpUHreL2STYMQUo4pYsZ8=; b=H7Dze65vatZxwwy8uuCqY8d+Z8sbgy2h5iWFpxd1YEln6O+ZGYjWOgEEE+adZWVkrq wT7INxUzLondJ5U4hY1FaSKoHsuw9LUpbAzOplzmwxhncw92D4W+jCoApsMWyBmXFFky XeR1ziN7orvEaxdeQ91TACVK1T7S31OaKzCuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=RrHqyGi6YOlgKCOvJQNVoQGhNJoao21SgrO//oWvhGa3SC391kkl7czpg1WtZqGYzm MLUpuRe/TaWTHM+6xm407Paj4uGlBh1gPgGqdXfSKapu0I7DwmKvQGhqqsxmyZ3lRGCt N54QDaFZsRrW3gKQVF+Xn5hs9GZZ623Ir0+sQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.3.12 with SMTP id 12mr635274wfc.331.1257650393084; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:19:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9d972bed0911060931k4ee2a5b7n9d62db23beeb6367@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d972bed0911060931k4ee2a5b7n9d62db23beeb6367@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:19:52 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05bfb3c5682b7dc3 Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: Roger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help understanding basic FreeBSD concepts (ports, updates, jails) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:19:53 -0000 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Roger wrote: > > My second concerned is the ports. In the file "ports-supfile" there is > one option, "*default release=cvs tag=.". > I believe this specifies which cvs tag to use when pulling files from > the ports. At one point I had "*default release=cvs > tag=RELEASE_7_2_0". > When I pulled the ports using the "RELEASE_7_2_0" tag and tried to > build "portsupgrade" the installation failed because the ruby version > that was going to be installed I believe had a security problem. (I > love the fact that I was stopped from installing software that is > KNOWN to be vulnerable). > I figured that maybe I needed to get the latest version. So I went > ahead and changed the cvs tag to "." (which I believe means the head > version). > Don't bother with any of that. Just use portsnap. It's also part of base, and was written by the same person that wrote freebsd-update. It's lovely and much faster, although some people may argue with me on that. I updated the ports and then tried the installation again, this time > the installation went further but failed again due to the fact that > my libtool (I can't remember the exact name) was older than what the > installation required. So that threw me off. > I believe that libtool is part of the base system and not the ports, > correct? > So that made me think that maybe because of using the latest version > of the ports I can build certain ports if my base is not > concurrent (in terms of what the ports requires and what my system > offers) with the port system. > So my question is this, if my FreeBSD release is 7.2-RELEASE-p4 which > tag should I set for the ports system? > Should I put the tag "RELEASE_7_2_0" and then wait for a security fix > of the particular port (ruby) and then proceed to install? > What is the recommended approach if your aim is to have your system up > to date and stable? > For your system, use freebsd-update. For your ports tree, use portsnap. For installed ports, use portupgrade or portmanager. I'm more fond of portmanager, but it seems portupgrade has many more users. Both portupgrade and portmanager are available in the ports tree, not base. -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 03:42:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4153C1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F2C8FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 03:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so252948pxi.3 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:42:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=K5BizJmtbBIgCZj8Jaefq59GhjMtPT05G1vZAOZJWjw=; b=nzF9dmbIax1InxYCBrrNTmkSCk2tDt+gScMXI+6nvAzsxOOb+KJWMT30j7ZrcaZD0z LO1LlTieaY2X6ckPHwbHkMlRDddZOzWbH9DS0tRTO/AXSAqFb74Hs64zb8LxNNXTmnLo EY3TdL76Z5qXh0Vgih4AE4+ijtUgBCO4rBzL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=a6l2SbN21Bep/9nFcIsvg0G++7miabOYhcTHon68wXrnmPrb2+ffKFbm1Z1n1AMXgF +HsK3Y16vuUrzlLod3yNKLhyqmujPFR60OgHOj6CbTTU/Ey/KTJUZes+Rhzs7YoQKbhl 0gy935LorptPm3XYKUF27ASo2U4hiFlTQB9fQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.151.9 with SMTP id y9mr648262wfd.337.1257651754660; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:42:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:42:34 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0911071942v1fe13da3p5ec126c08ea2a53c@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:42:35 -0000 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > hey guys, > > my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks > ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out. the one computer > buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port > iogear. i did and he installed it. it was .LT. sixty bux > and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] altho i did type > down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare > you. nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something > i could more readily use. --i'll post the entire story on my > freebsd pages in time. > > my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here. it is installed to as far > as i can install it. trouble is that i see on the dell screen > > "Keyboard failure" > > and a message to press F2 to setup. the kvm has the old ps2 > plugs and no adaptors to USB. i have the dell kybd here, come > to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down > and muck around and test. > > what's your best guess, folks? the computer parts stores > around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an > adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it. > > any thoughts on this? i think i would need at least 547 pain > meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might > drowse off > > gary > > > [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- > 0.000000000001s:) > to change ports. > > PS/2 keyboards are still plentiful and cheap... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201029 I've had varied luck with adapters and since they're about the same price just as easy to keep a ps/2 around. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 04:40:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF85106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993068FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so1454245pwj.3 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:40:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=6vC6Vuy+17N+mkp9XW1FCq5SW1vGhSJVAc3oTfK2EhU=; b=h/drZVKC1suMAFXDtpaauEpGdQttVy3vjXwJh9YfxHTPQ+fTu5FzusXlbiDLuhwe5s hJ3TFWJxZcAof+3nT/ulvvY1DGTbodh5Sk1YEGMi+Y3o1IQuee+FrX5mqwOVhFfK+7gC lTH/QBSXzq/5gYGRNDs2yuHQMCAvZMPLR/DCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wtMptLxjAu41X8rSgaYvmr7enD4h9uuhTvnqQjRy3EWNrY5XAii93cvQGYLKNno2Ty wCxj5M7Z2vtnnN9b9FWGyE4RlxaHHtGMSQFEKYoNKVdyk0naHgjKhecCTBeBHXSvg0JG gw+WTWSZ+kJmcrMdfmBQ8rImlIs+veuAbdm2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.66.24 with SMTP id t24mr10411418wak.39.1257653281869; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:08:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:08:01 +0000 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: KDE4 + FreeBSD-8.0-RC2, no anti aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:40:29 -0000 here is my ~/.fonts.conf rgb true hintfull true fonts look good, just little blurry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 06:15:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DD3106566C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772678FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA86EGxd060797; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:14:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:14:59 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Adam Vande More Message-ID: <20091108061459.GE23851@thought.org> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> <6201873e0911071942v1fe13da3p5ec126c08ea2a53c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6201873e0911071942v1fe13da3p5ec126c08ea2a53c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:15:05 -0000 On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 09:42:34PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > hey guys, > > > > my last e-troubles happened a few months ago, or several weeks > > ago, when my old KVM unit began flaking out. the one computer > > buddy i have in the seattle area suggested i order a 4-port > > iogear. i did and he installed it. it was .LT. sixty bux > > and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] altho i did type > > down the conversation between iogear and my friend, i'll spare > > you. nutshell: they refused to swap and upgrade for something > > i could more readily use. --i'll post the entire story on my > > freebsd pages in time. > > > > my new/used dell inspiron-530 is here. it is installed to as far > > as i can install it. trouble is that i see on the dell screen > > > > "Keyboard failure" > > > > and a message to press F2 to setup. the kvm has the old ps2 > > plugs and no adaptors to USB. i have the dell kybd here, come > > to think of it, but i'm waaay the hell beyond achy to get down > > and muck around and test. > > > > what's your best guess, folks? the computer parts stores > > around here have largely shut down ...but if ordering an > > adaptor or two will fix things, i'll do it. > > > > any thoughts on this? i think i would need at least 547 pain > > meds to get back down there and plug in the kyboard; i might > > drowse off > > > > gary > > > > > > [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- > > 0.000000000001s:) > > to change ports. > > > > > PS/2 keyboards are still plentiful and cheap... > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201029 > > I've had varied luck with adapters and since they're about the same price > just as easy to keep a ps/2 around. > > -- > Adam Vande More the keybd isn't the problem. it is in the box with a bunch of misc stuff i don't need. problem is that on my KVM switch are only ps2 plugs. on the back of the dell are USB jacks. i need something to convert from the PS2 plug to fit into the USB .... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 06:51:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9B2106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5E38FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 01:51:27 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id LFU38062; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 01:50:44 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19190.27203.38204.354646@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 01:50:43 -0500 To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20091108061459.GE23851@thought.org> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> <6201873e0911071942v1fe13da3p5ec126c08ea2a53c@mail.gmail.com> <20091108061459.GE23851@thought.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:51:28 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > the keybd isn't the problem. it is in the box with a bunch of > misc stuff i don't need. problem is that on my KVM switch are > only ps2 plugs. on the back of the dell are USB jacks. i > need something to convert from the PS2 plug to fit into the > USB .... Have you actually tried this elsewhere and had it work? Because I'm certainly no expert on KVMs, but that sounds like a "more likely to fail than succeed" scenario. (I use a StarTech four port USB KVM, and would be interested in a good model that handles DVI/HDMI as opposed to 15 pin VGA video.) Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 08:26:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD96106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61C18FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA88PSD5061755; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:26:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:26:12 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20091108082611.GC24511@thought.org> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> <6201873e0911071942v1fe13da3p5ec126c08ea2a53c@mail.gmail.com> <20091108061459.GE23851@thought.org> <19190.27203.38204.354646@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19190.27203.38204.354646@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:26:18 -0000 On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 01:50:43AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > Gary Kline writes: > > > the keybd isn't the problem. it is in the box with a bunch of > > misc stuff i don't need. problem is that on my KVM switch are > > only ps2 plugs. on the back of the dell are USB jacks. i > > need something to convert from the PS2 plug to fit into the > > USB .... > > Have you actually tried this elsewhere and had it work? > Because I'm certainly no expert on KVMs, but that sounds like a > "more likely to fail than succeed" scenario. > (I use a StarTech four port USB KVM, and would be interested in > a good model that handles DVI/HDMI as opposed to 15 pin VGA video.) > indeed not; and that is why i asked here. i DID find some ps2 <-> usb ... somewhere. google that and you see what i did. unless i was hallucinating! gents, i am and have been years behind the bleeding-edge stuff. the intel duo stuff has been around awhile so while it isn't that bloody, it is new to me. it may be my KVM Stuff or not. that's the $64.0 question. gary > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 08:40:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952251065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACA88FC1E for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id nA88eqVY037559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id nA88eqj8037557; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 00:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00226; Sun, 8 Nov 09 00:39:34 PST Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:40:19 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kline@thought.org Message-Id: <4af683f3.8UDK3d38ibQpED4i%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> <6201873e0911071942v1fe13da3p5ec126c08ea2a53c@mail.gmail.com> <20091108061459.GE23851@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20091108061459.GE23851@thought.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:40:54 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > the keybd isn't the problem ... problem is that on my KVM > switch are only ps2 plugs. on the back of the dell are USB > jacks. i need something to convert from the PS2 plug to > fit into the USB .... Such things do exist: http://www.amazon.com/Adesso-Adapter-connects-connectors-ADP-PU21/dp/B00008ZPED http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-USB-PS-2-Converter/dp/B0007T27HI http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-USB-Male-Female-Adapter/dp/B000658ETS http://www.frys.com/product/3470803 http://www.frys.com/product/3866207 http://www.frys.com/product/4161343 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 09:52:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC71106568B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 488028FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60842 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 09:52:57 -0000 Received: from poshta.pknet.net (HELO pop.pknet.net) (216.241.167.213) by poshta.pknet.net with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 09:52:57 -0000 Received: from 216.241.167.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by webmail.pknet.net with HTTP; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:52:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:52:57 -0700 (MST) From: "Peter" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: freebsd partitions on a dos/fat slice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:52:59 -0000 iH, Pulled an old disk lying around... and started mounting partitions in it. The weird thing is that the first slice [~15GB] is said to be fat, but I do have freebsd partitions on it: denver:#mount|grep ad10 /dev/ad10s1a on /maxtor500GB (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad10s1d on /maxtor500GB/var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad10s1f on /maxtor500GB/usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad10s1e on /maxtor500GB/tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad10s3d on /maxtor500GB/data (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad10s2d on /maxtor500GB/data2 (ufs, local, soft-updates) denver:#fdisk /dev/ad10 ******* Working on device /dev/ad10 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=969021 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary DOS, 16 bit FAT (>= 32MB)) start 63, size 31455207 (15358 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 31455270, size 31455270 (15359 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 62910540, size 913857525 (446219 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63; end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63 The data for partition 4 is: denver:# There are what appears to be a freebsd base install from Jul 19/20th 2007 on /dev/ad10s1{a,d,e,f} denver:#ls -l /maxtor500GB/tmp/ total 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 20 2007 .snap denver:#ls -l /maxtor500GB/ total 38 drwxrwxr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 20 2007 .snap drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 1024 Jul 19 2007 bin drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Jul 19 2007 boot .. .... denver:#df -hl|grep ad10 /dev/ad10s1a 496M 11M 445M 2% /maxtor500GB /dev/ad10s1d 989M 106K 910M 0% /maxtor500GB/var /dev/ad10s1f 16G 97M 15G 1% /maxtor500GB/usr /dev/ad10s1e 727M 580K 668M 0% /maxtor500GB/tmp /dev/ad10s3d 422G 384G 4.0G 99% /maxtor500GB/data /dev/ad10s2d 15G 11G 2.5G 81% /maxtor500GB/data2 running sysinstall also show s1 as 'fat' I've been writing/reading a lot of data from it just fine - Curios why s1 is being detect as a 'fat' partition and not a fbsd slice. Have not tried to put this disk into a windows/another box... ]Peter[ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 10:31:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AA81065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from mailscanner1.peak.org (mailscanner1.peak.org [69.59.192.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2C18FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (mail01.peak.org [69.59.192.41]) by mailscanner1.peak.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA8AV3PB015732; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:31:03 -0800 Received: from cjlinux.localnet (dialup-4.242.232.236.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.242.232.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id nA8AUsEt037131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N716T-0006qP-AA; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:18:21 -0800 To: Jerry McAllister References: <20091107223558.GB61756@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091107230703.GA94028@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> From: Carl Johnson Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:18:21 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20091107230703.GA94028@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> (Frank Shute's message of "Sat\, 7 Nov 2009 23\:07\:03 +0000") Message-ID: <87639lpmj6.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: nA8AV3PB015732 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.485, required 6, AWL -0.09, BAYES_00 -2.60, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 0.04, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION 0.16) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: carlj@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: David Chanters , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from Linux (keeping partitions at install time) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:31:08 -0000 Frank Shute writes: > On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 05:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> > [snip] >> >> Not so sure I did anything for your most important question - if ext2 s ext3 >> is a problem, but I hope the rest is helpful. >> > > No, it's not a problem Jerry. ext3 is basically ext2 + journal, so you > can mount it at as ext2 from within FreeBSD (or Linux). > > The journal sorts itself out when you boot Linux and it mounts the > filesystem as ext3. I haven't been able to mount some ext3 filesystems. When I experimented, it appears that most new ext3 filesystems default to 256 byte inodes. When I created a filesystem with 128 byte inodes then FreeBSD could mount it just fine. I didn't try ext2, but I think the inode is independent of ext2 or ext3. This is for FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE, so maybe things have changed for 7.2 or 8.0. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 10:48:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AAA106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4508FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA8Amcaj064759; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:48:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nA8AmbjN064758; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:48:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:48:37 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Carl Johnson Message-ID: <20091108104837.GA64633@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Carl Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091107223558.GB61756@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091107230703.GA94028@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87639lpmj6.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87639lpmj6.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:48:41 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from Linux (keeping partitions at install time) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:44 -0000 On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 10:18:21PM -0800, Carl Johnson typed: > Frank Shute writes: > > > On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 05:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> > > [snip] > >> > >> Not so sure I did anything for your most important question - if ext2 s ext3 > >> is a problem, but I hope the rest is helpful. > >> > > > > No, it's not a problem Jerry. ext3 is basically ext2 + journal, so you > > can mount it at as ext2 from within FreeBSD (or Linux). > > > > The journal sorts itself out when you boot Linux and it mounts the > > filesystem as ext3. > > I haven't been able to mount some ext3 filesystems. When I > experimented, it appears that most new ext3 filesystems default to 256 > byte inodes. When I created a filesystem with 128 byte inodes then > FreeBSD could mount it just fine. I didn't try ext2, but I think the > inode is independent of ext2 or ext3. This is for FreeBSD > 7.1-RELEASE, so maybe things have changed for 7.2 or 8.0. This has been patched: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/124621 Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 11:11:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162A51065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861B98FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22371EB4810; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:11:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142AD452EE; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:11:02 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cx0X+6OXOf82; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:11:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl14-198.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.141.198]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C0B451B2; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:11:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA8BB0q5003344 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:11:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA8BAxk0003338; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:10:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: David Chanters References: Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:10:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: (David Chanters's message of "Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:34:48 +0000") Message-ID: <87hbt546gs.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from Linux (keeping partitions at install time) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:11:04 -0000 On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:34:48 +0000, David Chanters wrote: > Hi all, > > I am considering switching from Debian Linux to FreeBSD. I am wondering > if at install time, sysinstall is able to allow me to keep "/home" from > my Debian installation. "/home" on Debian is currently a separate > partition in its own right, mounted as RXT3. I only have the one hard > disk in my machine. > > So, questions: > > 1. Can the installer be told to not touch "/home" at install time (I > appreciate I would have to ensure I mapped the current /dev/hda2 > terminology to slices in BSD parlance) Hi David, Yes, you can use sysinstall to _carefully_ partition and label only parts of an existing disk. It is certainly possible, but it is also slightly risky. One mistake and you can wipe tons of useful data. My own advice would be to *wait* until you have at least some way to backup your existing data. First make sure that you have a working and reliable copy of your existing data (meaning "you can read *all* of it from the backup medium and verify that it matches the existing files"). Then you can start experimenting with partitioning tools. We will be glad to have you as a FreeBSD user, and you asked at the right place. But losing data is always a bad thing, so it's ok if you keep using Debian for a while, until you have a reliable backup of everything. > 2. Does the fact that this is an EXT3 partition matter? (I have read > FreeBSD supports ext2, and ext3 is just ext2 with a journal, so it can be > mounted as ext2 if needed). I've seen ext3 partitions that are not mountable by our ext2fs driver. So your mileage may vary a lot here, depending on the exact on-disk format of your partition. You should probably keep this in mind when you prepare your backup mediums too. If at all possible, try to use a filesystem for the backup storage that is readable by both Linux *and* FreeBSD. VFAT is a possibility, but its file size limitations and partition size limitations are often annoying. Network-accessible storage is better. If nothing else works, you can always dump a "raw" tarball on a disk: linux# tar cf - / | dd bs=4m of=/dev/sda3 Then you can simply untar the "raw device" from FreeBSD. > 3. Is it possible/beneficial to convert this to UFS once FreeBSD is > installed? There are a few benefits indeed. The native filesystems of FreeBSD are these days UFS and ZFS. They are actively maintained, so you get the benefit of bugfixes and extensive testing from everyone else who uses the same filesystems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 14:50:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7AF106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B42F88FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29852 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 14:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.178.56) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Nov 2009 14:43:38 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 397A817773; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:50:18 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:50:18 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Randi Harper Message-ID: <20091108145018.GA44576@ozzmosis.com> References: <9d972bed0911060931k4ee2a5b7n9d62db23beeb6367@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Roger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help understanding basic FreeBSD concepts (ports, updates, jails) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:50:22 -0000 On Sat 2009-11-07 19:19:52 UTC-0800, Randi Harper (randi@freebsd.org) wrote: > Don't bother with any of that. Just use portsnap. It's also part of > base, and was written by the same person that wrote freebsd-update. > It's lovely and much faster, although some people may argue with me on > that. > For your system, use freebsd-update. Seconded. Portsnap and freebsd-update are a cinch to use. > For your ports tree, use portsnap. For installed ports, use > portupgrade or portmanager. I'm more fond of portmanager, but it seems > portupgrade has many more users. Both portupgrade and portmanager are > available in the ports tree, not base. I use portmaster and find it easy to use. Not familiar with portmanager. /usr/ports/UPDATING will often provide portmaster commands where necessary and these can useful for upgrading some ports. Maybe it's easy to translate those commands to their equivalent portmanager commands. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 15:07:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0364E106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f173.google.com (mail-vw0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02C58FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3so706482vws.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=x9Jl6ZC3gVQvT2f0h8GYJnaRKmaHbbYCCVjpRVH861M=; b=o+1eZa+pZ0oSQXjj8rL18kRg0k0bBQYWrjHAjeKDyGtXjfD1TTX5X32cOR2EVLaYti DlrPJPoRKg/keNbvaDcGZJ4HWpLJJ2dTaKvq5SrJA7RjsllJRCiDJNi05oMtfNoyjlUs AFzmq2LTogOe9v1syQ7z7way2YlNuA57G3V3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Wt4wh7mX+czZJN8jqZq9RI5R65ra/l0mJvwW+8Bxc5UEhvJ+MMmnMx8aXGNXEZC5Nc N8fRJKT0a6uXDqYdWqFcFb6LvWR9OAHuaUsgzMQ+LQQrihN2kZtt1EK6H30RpdvLHuFw w2fM2rXHdwHox9PviXwTCv+kY3Nc3DqwDVju0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.106 with SMTP id x42mr7239795vcr.44.1257692826803; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:07:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: devel/py-gobject error when pkgdb -F --- FREEBSD 7.2 STABLE --- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:07:08 -0000 Hi Folks, Running pkgdb -F Im getting the following error: I tried reinstalling devel/py-gobject, but did not help. All dependencies are linked to py25-gobject-2.16.1, so I can not remove that package as well. Can somebody give me a workaround?? ===> py26-gobject-2.16.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/gio/modules/libgiofam.so - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if devel/py-gobject already installed ===> An older version of devel/py-gobject is already installed (py25-gobject-2.16.1) You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of devel/py-gobject without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" in your environment or the "make install" command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/py-gobject. *** Error code 1 -- () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 15:11:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1AB106566B; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204A88FC0C; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 10:11:52 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QHL94960; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2009 10:11:50 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19190.57270.682460.836498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:11:50 -0500 To: andrew clarke In-Reply-To: <20091108145018.GA44576@ozzmosis.com> References: <9d972bed0911060931k4ee2a5b7n9d62db23beeb6367@mail.gmail.com> <20091108145018.GA44576@ozzmosis.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Roger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Randi Harper Subject: Re: Help understanding basic FreeBSD concepts (ports, updates, jails) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:11:53 -0000 andrew clarke writes: > > Don't bother with any of that. Just use portsnap. It's also part of > > base, and was written by the same person that wrote freebsd-update. > > It's lovely and much faster, although some people may argue with me on > > that. > > > For your system, use freebsd-update. > > Seconded. Portsnap and freebsd-update are a cinch to use. As for freebsd-update: It has limitations; /inter alia/ see the DESCRIPTION section of the man page. If that's something one can live with, use it. If it's not, then the OP really needs to get familiar with the update-from-source method as described in the Handbook. It's scary at first (actually, it's still a teeny bit scary after ten years). but it helps one understand what goes into making a working system ... which is a really good thing if something does manage to go Horribly Wrong(tm). Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 18:57:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF3E1065672 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sven@hazejager.nl) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3FE8FC1E for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so231132gxk.13 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:57:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.80.11 with SMTP id d11mr5731840anb.155.1257704879343; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:27:59 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [83.160.136.100] Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <8ffccde70911081027m19784be4ve4e33f150a9caa5b@mail.gmail.com> From: Sven Hazejager To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: 7.2-p4 serial console not showing kernel messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:57:55 -0000 All, I'm having trouble getting 7.2-p4 to run. I'm using nanoBSD, either under VMware using a virtual serial null-modem or on an Alix Soekris-like serial-only CF-based device, both show this problem: my serial console does not display kernel messages, they all go to the VGA console! I'm using the nanoBSD cust_comsole function to enable the console. Relevant files are shown here: /boot.config: -h -S57600 /etc/ttys, only one line is "on": ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" xterm on secure These are still in my kernel conf, if I remove these I get no kernel messages at all (kernel boots fine with this though): device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver I have also tried to set this in the loader, no luck: hint.sio.0.flags="0x30" On the serial console, I see the boot manager (boot0) and the loader just fine. "show" in the loader says "console=comconsole" so that seems to be fine. However all kernel output goes to the VGA console. I *do* get a login prompt after a while on the serial console though. If I boot the same kernel over PXE on the ALIX, the kernel messages *do* go to the serial console... What am I overlooking? Thanks, Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 19:25:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BF8106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jabidan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B9A8FC1E for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so828507fxm.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:25:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jBI3uVdFMprURfZSIyYRLIcRaxNKE0Sgg5Nq3tD96uE=; b=sNt/5Tbfa3hon88zaFX9c6Dz4OOje+NK33Phnbc09/sjuZGXVnWo5sC/SrY4JRkmGd ozX1C3SpshKi10W1gEpR2Ip+nlNEnZ4alKOa1fEiQlISD7091GuMqGc1vidrdlt67VL4 +Yunn1SbN7mVTauwmwgbwgdKRDlcm73CvKfkc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=t4d3BW3MvcTRB/88XfDMHKk1kFr+7ZFG/psHPy81bPXbmlZ0zPk2YAZm2DRX29uNwp txn0iqV+5MaOPRwv/b94c8eMvkH50OOb3GLB4ITKMLjd1atPaiC3Fplw8zPgKgbjLVCy Encds5gxEjsmnc4rdh/Hx6o5NNY/71uoOPeOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.196 with SMTP id u4mr612543hbu.114.1257708335294; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:25:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:25:35 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: kernel trap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:25:37 -0000 sorry for bothering guys, but i have a big problem here, i recently installed freebsd on a box and i was very happy updating ports, when i realized the system suddenly reboot, when i saw the dmesg it says: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x828dee24 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc0a27b0b stack pointer = 0x28:0xe4f2fb80 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe4f2fb94 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 48 (vnlru) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 1 Uptime: 18m45s Physical memory: 1522 MB Dumping 203 MB: 188 172 156 140 124 108 92 76 60 44 28 12 Dump complete Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... I searched in google for something but it seems i need to dump the kernel, i guess if it could be an HD issue. By the way, the current process line has little variations (g_down, fsck_ufs, vnlru Any clue? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 19:27:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE1A106566B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tkjacobsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133108FC1C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so2211339ewy.43 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=0fZDFmsQpvhDz4jGpdMJO2JN+S77V+oUfzskPCWtW6s=; b=iPOA9C5EegKWtiA8YHypKI8d3stcWaDc0aCjwXezTiNZSnUBZMNiT66dByJ0h991hT 40gICnWABKsHUbVb+Ea2B1mRZQiIa1GXUXx+LY2KOLwIbU8LFIyxHgUmVG2ztVEEwB/0 2j3QhH7tMFnVvxnkY7t7sjiidG/BQRDfIQqZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; b=OGSQb+48i+U7p6rK1/q+52n6P3YjnuabuRNaVS8EHLK5uAZ9lFH8cE8jki+WKPrIuY NlyBd3vkxyJu06tyoP9wt41nUokFbBsmEWYw2+uq3PXJ5HblcKteJkOOa5Fsf5uKEFXn DFqKZam6Od0IbRsXVBlBlhiwBo+upeo7VbVn8= Received: by 10.213.97.30 with SMTP id j30mr2113021ebn.94.1257707178876; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from photon.std (84-238-115-154.u.parknet.dk [84.238.115.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm4192583eyg.30.2009.11.08.11.06.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:06:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:06:13 +0100 From: Troels Kofoed Jacobsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Tracking commit messages from cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:27:35 -0000 Hi all With pkg_version I can easily see which installed ports has newer versions available, but what I miss is a way to see what has changed. The reason for this is that commit messages often say that only the pkg-plist has changed or something that does not make me want to update. Right now I'm reading the commit messages from the cvs web frontend, but it would be awesome with a program that could say: gd-2.0.35_1,1 < needs updating (index has 2.0.35_2,1) Commit messages between the versions: blah blah blah blah ... ... ... I know freshports exist, but I would rather not have to open a web browser. Does such a program exist or do I have to write my own. In the latter case can anyone point me to an easy way to get raw-text versions of commit messages without having to track the whole tree. Does freshports e.g. have an api -- it has all the necessary information, just not available in a suitable form (to my knowledge) Best regards Troels Kofoed Jacobsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 20:05:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE1A1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walt@wump.org) Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B7E8FC24 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:05:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20091108200542.IKNG8038.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:05:42 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.10] ([68.116.98.9]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 2k5f1d00B0C8vLc05k5gX2; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:05:42 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ebNzH6DdAAAA:8 a=Mo3bIQVSAKC-G1owKasA:9 a=l4Jhg5i-1FSRTBquFAIA:7 a=OxcjeVIenc1gpt79UCaor32FH9oA:4 a=Z-IikAJXHoYA:10 a=zbkDLoAsQ4cA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4AF2E413.2080907@videotron.ca> References: <4AF1FF76.60808@videotron.ca> <20091105023045.9a3d90ab.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AF2D277.3090406@videotron.ca> <20091105144609.GA28950@ei.bzerk.org> <4AF2E413.2080907@videotron.ca> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:05:34 -0800 To: PJ , Ruben de Groot , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: Walt Pawley Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Re: and now for conky & gremlins X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:05:43 -0000 At 10:41 AM -0400 11/5/09, PJ wrote: >Ruben de Groot wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 09:26:15AM -0400, PJ typed: >> >>> Polytropon wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:25:58 -0400, PJ wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> output should be: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 etc. >>>>> is: 1 2 3 4 5 6.... >>>>> >>>>> the calendar.sh is exactly: >>>>> #!/bin/sh >>>>> cal | awk 'NR>1' | sed -e 's/ / /g' -e 's/[^ ] /& /g' -e 's/..*/ >>>>> &/' -e "s/\ `date +%d`/\[`date +%d`\]/" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> It's quite obviously. Let's try the last substitution >>>> argument in plain shell: >>>> >>>> % date +%d >>>> 05 >>>> >>>> But the command creates this: >>>> >>>> Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa >>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >>>> >>>> The leading zero is missing, so there's no substition that >>>> changes "5" into "[5]", because the search pattern is "05". >>>> >>>> >>> Ok, I see... I'm not too good in programming. I guess I didn't notice >>> the previous to the first days of November the date was always 2 >>> digits.. how do I get rid of the zero? Regex substitution or something >>> like that? >>> >> >> date "+%e" should do it. >> >Sure did.... For the moment, I changed the [ ] to just plain > >maybe that will avoid the disjointed row. Not quite what you're looking for but ... cal | perl -pe 's/^/ /;s/$/ /;s/ '"$(date "+%e")"' /\['"$(date "+%e")"']/' ... generated ... November 2009 S M Tu W Th F S 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 [ 8] 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 -- Walter M. Pawley Wump Research & Company 676 River Bend Road, Roseburg, OR 97471 541-672-8975 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 20:45:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932AC1065692 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512508FC33 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2586B3D801; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:45:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nA8KjeNl001627; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:45:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Adam Vande More Message-Id: <20091108214540.dd9901c5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0911070857j231331a3n1b9c6fdc53e08bcd@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d972bed0911060931k4ee2a5b7n9d62db23beeb6367@mail.gmail.com> <9d972bed0911070839q3f9ded02q40de4637278bcec9@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0911070857j231331a3n1b9c6fdc53e08bcd@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help understanding basic FreeBSD concepts (ports, updates, jails) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:45:42 -0000 On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:57:54 -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > There are three basic branches, CURRENT STABLE RELEASE > > You want release. You shouldn't run anything else unless you're willing and > able to help with testing, debugging, and development. That's a quite generic answer, but basically I agree. On a production system, in most cases RELEASE is the branch you want to follow, beginning from X.Y-RELEASE and then tacking the security updates X.Y-RELEASE-pZ. The tool freebsd-update is very good for this task, especially when you're not running a custom kernel. STABLE is a good solution when you want to use a stable system, but are interested in additions between the releases. Things that are tested and found working are present in STABLE and will often appear in the upcoming RELEASE. CURRENT is interesting for you - as Adam said - for testing and development, and if you are intendedly interested in "bleeding edge" software. Note that it can happen that a CURRENT system of today won't build, but will tomorrow. It's the development branch. In any case: You should re-install or re-compile ALL of your applications when you perform the step to a new release (e. g. 7.2 -> 8.0). You can install the 7-compat port to avoid this (downward compatibility libraries). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 20:57:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A95106568B for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F2C8FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9203D56F; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:57:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nA8KvDR2001665; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:57:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:57:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20091108215713.aabc3e1f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:57:16 -0000 On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:41 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > it was .LT. sixty bux > and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] > [...] > [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.000000000001s:) > to change ports. What happended to the "old" fahioned way of having a simple knob that you can turn to one of the 4 positions? Too mechanically? Not "modern" enough? Not prone enough to errors? I sill have such a switch here, but I'm lacking the cables; they are maybe triple as expensive as a new "modern" switch including cables which requires a race across the keyboard in order to switch the targets. Man, I sound sooo oooold... :-) Back on topic: With the use of an USB->PS/2 adaptor, you could be lucky; most USB keyboards function as intended in such a setting, but I've already found that not all of them do. Strangely, the older ones (such as IBM model M) do, but I had a "modern" Dell keyboard that didn't work with a converter as mentioned above, allthoug it should (and worked correct plugged in directly, and other keyboards workeed correct with the adaptor). Strange stuff, produced by "modern" IT manufacturers... You'll end up having to try it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 22:10:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9690E1065692 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578668FC25 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D403DB9A; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:09:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nA8M9xvj001838; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:09:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:09:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bryan Cassidy Message-Id: <20091108230958.79f2b9a1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091107182734.GA22936@.hsd1.tn.comcast.net.> References: <20091107182734.GA22936@.hsd1.tn.comcast.net.> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop for Fedora 11 on External Hard Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:10:01 -0000 On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:27:34 -0600, Bryan Cassidy wrote: > I am currently using FreebSD 7.2 and I have just installed and > configured Fedora 11 on an external > hard drive so I can do some printing and other things. I was > wondering how can I get full access > to the Desktop (GUI) on FreeBSD for Fedora 11 on my external > hard drive? Any ideas? I hope I am not misunderstanding you... If you have installed Fedora on a hard disk and you're running this Linux from this hard disk (in a PC), and want to connect to it and use its UI (on another PC that runs FreeBSD), you can easily set the environmental variable DISPLAY so it does correspond to the Linux PC and then run its applications (there) and view them on the FreeBSD PC; this is mostly done through a SSH connection, e. g. freebsd% ssh -X myusername@192.168.84.101 Password: fedora$ export DISPLAY=192.168.84.100 fedora$ krita (now see krita runnin on Fedora on your FreeBSD's X) In this example, 192.168.84.100 is the FreeBSD system, and 192.168.84.101 is the Fedora system. You can as well run a complete window manager or desktop environment. There are other tools in the ports collection that allow things like full remote-desktopping. BUT if you want to run programs from the Fedora disk on your FreeBSD system, things get more complicated, allthough FreeBSD has a Linux ABI (alternative binary interface). In this case, you would mount your external hard disk and then execute programs from it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 22:16:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09941106566C for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [213.192.2.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E888FC08 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EC0A5147C50; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:26:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:26:40 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Troels Kofoed Jacobsen Message-ID: <20091108222640.GH54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracking commit messages from cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:16:55 -0000 On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 08:06:13PM +0100, Troels Kofoed Jacobsen wrote: > With pkg_version I can easily see which installed ports has newer > versions available, but what I miss is a way to see what has changed. > The reason for this is that commit messages often say that only the > pkg-plist has changed or something that does not make me want to update. ... > I know freshports exist, but I would rather not have to open a web > browser. > > Does such a program exist or do I have to write my own. sorry to point out the obvious, but why not use svn (or cvs)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 22:41:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305AD1065679 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B778FC1E for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A23EDE605B459BC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:41:19 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF7490F.80703@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:41:19 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: x11/lxpanel build fails - wrong linux base? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:41:21 -0000 Hi I am trying to build x11/lxde-meta in a 8.0RC2 tinderbox. lxpanel fails because it depends on linux-alsa-lib. linux-alsa-lib fails because eco# make ===> linux-alsa-lib-1.0.10.3_2 bsd.linux-rpm.mk test failed: default package building at OSVERSION>=800076 was changed to linux-f10 ports, please define OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS to build other linux infrastructure ports. *** Error code 1 [the above is make in /usr/ports/audio/linux-alsa-lib. Ports and source for the host are exactly the same as the tinderbox.] I have WITHOUT_ALSA=true in lxpanel's options and I have even changed the line in lxpanel/Makefile: eco# diff Makefile Makefile.original 31c31 < WITH_ALSA= off --- > WITH_ALSA= yes so how do I stop lxpanel calling linux-alsa-lib? Alternatively can I make it use linux-f10-alsa-lib by changing the Makefile to point to linux-f10-alsa-lib? thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 8 23:03:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCB710656A3 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:03:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C0E8FC23 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898CA3D2D4; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:03:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nA8N3dLb002345; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:03:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:03:38 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chris Whitehouse Message-Id: <20091109000338.25765d02.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AF7490F.80703@onetel.com> References: <4AF7490F.80703@onetel.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: x11/lxpanel build fails - wrong linux base? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:03:40 -0000 On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:41:19 +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > I have WITHOUT_ALSA=true in lxpanel's options and I have even changed > the line in lxpanel/Makefile: > > eco# diff Makefile Makefile.original > 31c31 > < WITH_ALSA= off > --- > > WITH_ALSA= yes Maybe that's the reason. The symbol WITH_ALSA is defined. It does not matter with which value it is defined, so even WITH_ALSA=I_DONT_WANT_ALSA would be equivalent to WITH_ALSA=yes; try removing the whole line in order to not define the symbol. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 00:41:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26B7106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [213.192.2.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C28FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 163F4147C57; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:41:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:41:06 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Masoom Shaikh Message-ID: <20091109004106.GI54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8.0-RC2 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:41:33 -0000 On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 05:33:00PM +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: > Hello, > > Last Saturday I installed 8.0-RC2 from source by compiling on 7.1 > installation. building and installing was smooth as always has been. Then I > pkg_add'ed xorg and KDE4, this was painless too. I am very disappointed with > my experience > > problem # 1 > The problem is KDE4 is not able to display anti aliased fonts. i don't use kde, sorry. > problem # 2 > I observed that both FreeBSD8.0-RC1 and FreeBSD8.0-RC2, simply freeze due to > no reason. The pain is I don't get a core dump. When it freezes the only > option is to hard boot by reseting the power. This might need more > information to guess the cause. I will give basic info. This is Dell > Inspiron 1525 Laptop, with Intel Core2. My suspect mostly goes to wpi > driver, no proof, just my gut feeling. it might be the kbdmux, or hald. these two things were troublemakers during my recent upgrade from 7.x to 9.0. kbdmux is in GENERIC, but causes missed interrupts, which may make the machine appear dead. hald is used by xorg. hald may spin busily when it's out of sync with the kernel. > problem # 3 > starting with 8.0 wpi driver no longer is the interface, wlanX is to be > created. this is not news, but every time I manually create the wlan0 > interface and spawn wpa_supplicant. This shuould be automatic, as I have > followed the guidelines of rc.conf(5). I can provide output of > rc_debug="YES" if someone is willing. my wlan0 is created for wpi0 (I start the wifi with /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant onestart wlan0): wlans_wpi0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0="NOAUTO DHCP WPA" what's in your rc.conf? > How can i install all files under /etc from the source ? cd /usr/src && mergemaster -i From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 00:28:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9C5106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theultramage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589828FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so3070191bwz.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:28:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h6YPqs3IWij20xNAETDc17Rdk/049c3Pm52QNAOkclY=; b=Pi/J8UDawSwKd8hu+IrVo6Qc+uP1mxlTeN7SvLpC15KRim+Hgm9hHK5toM36oYw3Ey mxlAck6cWLImkzD5WcanSClR9nnCDaRnzGgyo/r/4rmfAp5K2K4TChDGgZ7rF/8fIF6a FTqO7oJdHNB4xKrX8cDWT0nTywcJ35wN+mK0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lajUiefRNVcM5NakLRTWsIfsoPfWwP7sORAFdOTcuTaie8dp/tNyFGUgq1oKA9hHeg ESfY1NteqUO7j//zFiq6EIuHJ4qpW+SZ70IEqScW5CBtoUWTCcpUXmLOepI6ALx0TFKz pQj/mJ1GVpQJM1sfsRBuRsfwaPctH3jS/nQY0= Received: by 10.102.216.8 with SMTP id o8mr2847766mug.20.1257726516021; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.31? ([217.75.87.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s11sm8496204mue.11.2009.11.08.16.28.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:28:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7620A.9010709@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:27:54 +0100 From: umage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AF57EB4.3070104@gmail.com> <20091107180710.GA1056@jason-helfmans-macbook-pro.local> <4AF5BB31.5090304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF5BB31.5090304@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:02:09 +0000 Subject: Re: networking won't come back up until reboot after ISP outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:28:37 -0000 > When the connection goes down and comes back up it will take 5 minutes > before my FreeBSD gateway box checks the lease and decides if a renewal is > in order. This is automatic. If I am sitting in front of my computer and I > want to speed this up I issue /etc/rc.d/netif restart on the gateway and it > will come up and be happy in about 10 seconds, rather than waiting out the 5 > minute time out. In my case the router does get the renewed ip, as I described earlier. However, even after waiting 8+ hours, the system will not recover from the outage properly (reason unknown). That's what this thread is all about. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 01:39:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E79F0106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912D58FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nA91dY25019966 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:39:34 -0500 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id nA91dY7Y019965; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:39:34 -0500 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 5B1A5BE92; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:38:15 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20091105131339.GA3804@current.Sisis.de> (message from Matthias Apitz on Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:13:39 +0100) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20091109013816.5B1A5BE92@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:38:15 -0500 (EST) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: splitting Mbox file thread-sorted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:39:36 -0000 >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:13:39 +0100, >> Matthias Apitz said: M> Is there some tool or something in the ports which could split a Mbox M> file into various pieces, but having the threads together? Mail::Thread is a Perl implementation of Jamie Zawinski's mail threading algorithm, as described by http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html. See http://search.cpan.org/ to track it down. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Cute Celebrity Couple Names #4: Naomi Watts + Paul Newman = WattsNew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 01:42:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651431065679 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6E18FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so2355625ywh.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:42:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=q1v6Swc9h5bG0E/Q+86nrfwPTizg/odX5Mgxn/kyABQ=; b=ixCk0i1ageVvHZLtoCA+2+/45GgeMfkUxhJpnvAygfuOv+QQ6TojAdPS18DLbfjLIb nRImBJChqG1tWUaCxxj7YFii8Q0te3LRey4znc1C1uCJ+Wo68i9JqiMLuDDEP1NM6Vl9 qwbLCpf3o/1fpS7Bci7RLWCIg7YeEuuLl7800= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N3lJ12fxESDDxzOQaz3w5gTH/SdVFvChkOAVPmSnK5HhAZnRp+X8Em/5wyli+DzCFQ 6Arq3VfiIcbtwf6uVG9FnlaJ+kudTqnF+tngbBpib7nwTxSJGxysY8LAyH0dQvO3BxJp eXdTQPfs6ipnnGoorjSCuswNtLPT5/AG1Es1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.22.17 with SMTP id 17mr12906960agv.76.1257730974937; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:42:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:42:54 -0800 Message-ID: From: John W To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: csup a single file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:42:57 -0000 I'm trying to use csup to get a single file at a certain date. In particular, I'm trying to get /usr/ports/UPDATING. I made a copy of /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile and made the following changes: # pick a server *default host=cvsup9.FreeBSD.org # Date to sync to # (jw) I use this so I can gradually update ports, instead of # getting too many things changing at once causing upgrade pain date=2009.11.12.00.00.00 I then run the command: csup -L2 -i 'UPDATING' path/to/my/supfile I have also tried 'UPDATING*', '*UPDATING*', and '/UPDATING*' since i'm not sure from the docs exactly what the -i pattern should look like. However, none of those work. What I want is to get the single file /usr/ports/UPDATING as of the date given in the supfile. What am I missing? Am I going about it entirely wrong? Thanks -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 01:47:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D730106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2C88FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so2359796yxe.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:47:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xGZgxCuldnCyZTRNaii0iCkBF4nf7gw3c4Xrw4UyHuA=; b=G0EtN/Wh9KTvrGZb1T113DRNvqnf0I/VQqy8iNRxVNVt4jN+Dseplv/SX9rSOruj49 PDPrFVAmyxGGTdgZP+/xfPpkA0FMVw1mswNOSwJPAmBFlHnDF2COE4eGImUDt8t6xAbV reE/z+GjikePJ5soDZunRv/4Pknm7TN64kAZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oIZr4pOL+VwnGp+VMtrC+zH7KwHMKltBa6bng6Fa8JSJkFQ0BdBeOJLdaRAJIi+6/F wx2aGWEUJe4U2jZg6nLzO7X5h5+/p+h3gSxiycet/dYwnYuGSXlsHd3VBCRxvJb+LwFi Ftg0kq4k6sPQA139SnYNtrypehT52F5bByXDo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.103.17 with SMTP id f17mr13408580agm.114.1257731221389; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:47:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:47:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: John W To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: csup a single file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:47:02 -0000 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM, John W wrote: > > =A0date=3D2009.11.12.00.00.00 > Oh, ignore that the date given is not-happened-yet. I have tried it with various real dates too, I assure you (: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 01:54:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33188106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwdevel@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A068FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so435085gxk.13 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1eRR274toetcpbWeL0hEMNSsuua5vu1JPLsD94GojS0=; b=GMopQwtj/9GGobp/2LaZmSbtMZvdNdJ29bj7QORXUpWohC1CmAj4e/osWFxW0FYFnf MvEgb2ukdpE+n7OKY1lvSWxTyiTm3qU7tYC09NZ1ldupto+19HXxbXcAN3BenA8p7UaP 7+04VpuI+bPr7zxzjZ3qIkC4XX3KFmjqzdeaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ObUWLWy0cJ/i6WuL6J2JLUEQ4b3UaAFDABPTZ5qjADCUZTNfprVk3gQRrzsE+Tz28a 8KkYPj3W/QMuFhUsNOR6nRmPPsudh4W9gICfj9R+dANbdhaGIXEi5oQR0jGwNBNbzRFv M7evJzUm0QdFfQZ0+htE9MW7yV9N2O3TPkFrU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.126.10 with SMTP id d10mr4431432agn.70.1257731653044; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:54:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: John W To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: csup a single file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:54:14 -0000 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM, John W wrote: > > In particular, I'm trying to get /usr/ports/UPDATING. > FIXED I needed to specify 'ports/UPDATING' *slaps forehead* -John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 02:26:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D704106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Olivier.Nicole@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EA08FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7ED3A383A; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:26:01 +0700 (ICT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.ait.ac.th; h= references:subject:subject:in-reply-to:from:from:message-id:date :date:received:received:received; s=selector1; t=1257733561; x= 1259547961; bh=oNZF+wONssah9f35Y3e7KuHio+tKALdn0Xzf2p0+fKE=; b=k 5r/vwCUXqlwSE9Gg6Q8ZQnm3SBLMZOwnJ2JM4SKIid0DC4j1aRg673E/L3Z5I7Xd fO8jSnXSphCT7roAYAKwn2KGaFmJmFT+hxva6pZHsgIFfe8hu3LwmUbGu+fVYvtn cSzdTWL6ZYS/ysCHeidG/v+gQmX5menFZAZS3NuNV8= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cs.ait.ac.th Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bBlaO0Wf2Xqg; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:26:01 +0700 (ICT) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D7C13A3839; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:26:01 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA92PxYp079632; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:25:59 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:25:59 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200911090225.nA92PxYp079632@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: wblock@wonkity.com In-reply-to: (message from Warren Block on Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:12:14 -0700 (MST)) References: Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to configure sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:26:04 -0000 Hi, I apologize if I was not clear enough. I answer youe questions and try to be more clear at the bottom. > > I have this stupide little configuration that I cannot manage to get > > working. > > > > I have one machine a.domain.net that I want to be able to deliver > > system mail (like cron and so on) with the following rules: > > > > - user1 on a.domain.net has the same username as on domain.net; I > > want that mail sent to user1 is delivered to user1@domain.net; > An alias will do that. Only I don't want to define an alias for each and every user. > > - user2 on a.domain.net has no corresponding user on domain.net, but > > it has an alias defined; I want to mail sent to user2 is delivered > > to the alias. > > Creating an alias for a nonexistent user seems to work here. user2 aliases to an existing account on some other place. > > - of course, mail addressed to a full address x@y.z should be > > delivered accordingly, eventually using a mail relay. > > > I tried using masquerade in submit.mc, > I don't edit submit.mc, just .mc. I shall try that. > > user1 is then rewritten as user1.domain.net, > That's the masquerade... Wait, is that a typo? Should be > "user1@domain.net"? Right, that was a typo. > > but the alias for user2 is not parsed > > newaliases(1) is needed after editing /etc/mail/aliases. And there is a > bug if you're using 8.0: Yes I did newaliases and the version of sendmail is the default with FreeBSD, that must be 8.14.3 > Masquerade again. Not clear whether that's what you want. How to configure sendmail on a.domain.net so that: 1) users with an alias defined in /etc/mail/aliases have their messages sent to the alias; 2) users with no alias have their mail sent to user@domain.net (same username). It seems that masquerade does the part 2) but users in 1) are not sent to the alias. Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 02:27:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90781065698 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lordofhyphens@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601378FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so455090gxk.13 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:27:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kbsvpVGHCnat+p+n3erN1NzBUFI1uqbkUQBKHnALOjg=; b=PBinaYUSyOwj+SnjDdjdd38kGg2JrHBaf86I+JCbzW9AdRQO1glT4/UKXWnzPFPevK MWHv7mHoEmXu0KLhDbZYWyslDKFKZbHh0E8P4a9fMC/eVF+4g6C26bcwwC3Gn8lJ74br rVZaE17TNf4ijzRADO7kuzNH1z5MFpizm0NQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TLUJgqzpNtXeLNmXyeSKJkHnnug4u0nfe7oVHGvzCjDLL79BtrXAHuuHnkwDNvgPyG Ldyj6rGWY4qppqpxQuUP26nctT+SbfaqxlP4K93llAaVFuT1Al14TiPtnrissC+Xy3bB OfjC8nYusicvopmoExu8XDeHMtp1Xvx14LXcQ= Received: by 10.90.16.14 with SMTP id 14mr13238376agp.102.1257733658785; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.249? (173-24-127-191.client.mchsi.com [173.24.127.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1044511yxd.26.2009.11.08.18.27.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:27:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF77E0F.3030308@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:27:27 -0600 From: LoH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4AF1114D.4000206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF1114D.4000206@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 8.0RC custom kernel not installing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:27:43 -0000 Problem solved, I didn't use the proper casing on the command line. I needed KERNCONF=ZFS, not kernconf=ZFS. LoH wrote: > I compiled a custom kernel with ZFS enabled and installed it. > Everything appeared to work fine, then I realized that I needed to > make some more modifications (ALTQ, disabling ulpt). I made those > configuration changes to the existing ZFS kernel config. > > After running > make buildkernel kernconf=ZFS > and > make installkernel kernconf=ZFS > > (ZFS is the name of the kernel config file) > I rebooted the machine but didn't see any change in the system config. > I've also made sure I did the build/install as root. > > I doubled-checked the config in the kernel directory, the config is > properly done. > > Any ideas? > > --Joseph > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 03:03:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0358106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DCF8FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA933faH092451; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:03:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nA933fUR092448; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:03:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:03:41 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200911090225.nA92PxYp079632@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: References: <200911090225.nA92PxYp079632@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:03:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to configure sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:03:58 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote: >>> but the alias for user2 is not parsed >> >> newaliases(1) is needed after editing /etc/mail/aliases. And there is a >> bug if you're using 8.0: > > Yes I did newaliases and the version of sendmail is the default with > FreeBSD, that must be 8.14.3 I mean there is a bug with sendmail not always sending to aliases on FreeBSD 8.0-RC2: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/139870 >> Masquerade again. Not clear whether that's what you want. > > How to configure sendmail on a.domain.net so that: > > 1) users with an alias defined in /etc/mail/aliases have their > messages sent to the alias; > > 2) users with no alias have their mail sent to user@domain.net (same > username). > > It seems that masquerade does the part 2) but users in 1) are not sent > to the alias. Maybe a mail hub setup in addition to the aliases will do what you need. /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README has more information. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 03:52:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC911065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aaflatooni@yahoo.com) Received: from web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0942B8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 03:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 59914 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Nov 2009 03:52:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257738739; bh=efgAOI83irzPwWpkTXPXp6RpYVTjt8hiPjg2pDKrc6Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yLcvrGct9+ZpZEAKrfJ7CvWjJjBjcOTEDy7NBSeF+IkDoSet7Wl/dt/mfJRlrt+8JGeHSaMkQeh4KW7lrxaF0IyssNoYkkEBm188FiH07g3sQ68HcH1QUqwau6tydOGNR4AF4SFoc4chkG0+sG00jMPItNn8b2S2Yp8vffCLK/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gdp4UMIOkuLJXTqizPqCau3zqNuu60HxAvOCyYegOE6Kp00R/xhOuPzfBDQFH/jlS33obLvhAnAXxLJwZwzomTuIFLrlSobFwlRGerPATPLJipt6lZfkjG4yDKIANe9jKyimVo2SIyCdgrw+Ial3aFtFJpoOJTu2e4ds6VPPTVo=; Message-ID: <556060.58336.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GWxQUVsVM1l9ASKL.ZtHyinkJYZ2Mfls936LU44TyCXwwbFFah_kWFoYQD.XK7Ip3eKFRBB..OvqMt8bWMtnVUE3LWVIPj3mxOO0Foj4NSXgON6Ss_RE3aJUla.yawcsMPOGePxmlmSZ4YiUvE3IiZ4SuXGwD3222SIlh.mbV2ILbNn_bJtevPOMwteZAKCfyxrEIDogC4yrun5j9kg9g2RMYsKMWGWNn1F4HE3ysFnPRWiDoChByD9zhSho6uwH0rurE0qyvV9yKZw2vS983FQbKojPWM5CsvFW_OdShJQI.wd6.z1h64aNUriy2SiXeH_CtJdDk_FmdvwEcGF._VAN2Bx2VxqGZCZavN7H47HViKH91gIW91ZcErfi7nThC9s5FBYg1k4nuJPgYracQGvRkXyCqaOiRMCGMXPbDx99k7q9BtFeNQ-- Received: from [66.49.176.49] by web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:52:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:52:19 -0800 (PST) From: Aflatoon Aflatooni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:01:09 +0000 Subject: What happened to the colors in VIM 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:52:20 -0000 It looks like the color schemas in VIM 7.2 are missing? Any ideas? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 04:04:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D2C1065676 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779B38FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so3165873bwz.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:04:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GrUoeKjjEafsGtwe+xDzfq78pu11rM0lggNDzVWCQ7k=; b=GyFvoQeHrJlAjzNsptUyvz9j23fiKtJIEGz3zFulUCAGFfFaGsWP2xwyspkKPYmUig ViXkLUUMQugiJXWNFdVNQFJ4xwEsVTaTAYzCnpNLCDyzS5/cyQNvm45K2bYxgO7JMG7H 1x36PkMIPN2+RjbLcISfNaankTsqssCyEl0H4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=pKwaqRzbvCH0Sq2sWb3yrHTTWFQH5gTLUBkMGfvjCoiDWha2+IKxJUwvOEs/d2WeUW U2x4vPLW/0X0ETxDTePHJRDUv0F41xuSGmzQIXydy9j7nA1dbuND5DFMCQUDGSxWH7i9 7E0OIi3BOetueTkHmon0sJno3paVzc0QBQtF0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.2.205 with SMTP id 13mr1120849fak.83.1257739464488; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:04:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <556060.58336.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <556060.58336.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:04:24 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310911082004m29ff7e97tf378eb6ea319fef7@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Aflatoon Aflatooni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to the colors in VIM 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:04:26 -0000 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > It looks like the color schemas in VIM 7.2 are missing? > > Any ideas? > Errors? Symptoms? $HOME/.vimrc ? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 04:16:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF1F106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FDB8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so2435108yxe.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:16:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t1uNB5nPBk1u+bd4SUezSdBoB0zx6YvHVgEDjX1S5aI=; b=v2BEr+/THa+16G05j3p5acSMPkaSC8yWdOv9c0sTRPuE1pxGFxLGbTjtxYOOueEhHE nG8/3i5BRIkL3VneYYbbgCGDTPMKHm9Ov84uRzVvlxXR1MtxgM3uzgs5+wGwl4F7Prck b/9HA1VWr74CmMnSB7cz4JOgDAbWdS4VWYip0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wcMlHV8y9jKUFVuuTwAtdqRyEQY398zWWF56oINfwSFJRmpPhPkyBXnTiE6MXa+ydy eM7kbdiPhPYpA4eKmN1xUJymDjrBmgzw63hZbRL6fdw7/13k23Xyc5TM8YjH2pTkH7hq 65lkai4rKhNSD5b9sdTFywBzMFHgp6rsJkN0U= Received: by 10.150.235.5 with SMTP id i5mr12351650ybh.271.1257740183571; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm927036ywg.49.2009.11.08.20.16.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:16:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF79795.9080000@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:16:21 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Barber References: <556060.58336.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4ad871310911082004m29ff7e97tf378eb6ea319fef7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310911082004m29ff7e97tf378eb6ea319fef7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Aflatoon Aflatooni , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to the colors in VIM 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:16:24 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Aflatoon Aflatooni > wrote: > >> It looks like the color schemas in VIM 7.2 are missing? >> >> Any ideas? >> >> > > Errors? Symptoms? $HOME/.vimrc ? > > > Related question does anyone know why elflord incorrectly identifies certain words that are not keywords (per se) in JavaScript (document, top, parent are the ones I can think of the top of my head) [at least I assume thats "yellow" {I am color blind so not sure if it is yellow or not} means]?... an other side question has anyone had any luck with using any other color scheme on a transparent xfce4 term window (everyone I tried blacks out the background {I make it transaperent because the pattern is easier on my eyes then a solid color}) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 04:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF18106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f214.google.com (mail-gx0-f214.google.com [209.85.217.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D748FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so516817gxk.13 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:18:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6AGFG2NO0my7bkRg07THO+JOTnxT/0FCdX7dYKSUZSY=; b=lMtIHcjeJzCSOncyrFpR+bSAp3J5cTR2zatSIciZjDgkVSWIxXSCEWvSggs4agNHJ8 Te9z/dK5rS1oJCu4uqGVDBelqeyXmtYSTyj7fYSP6PHJEZ6OfLPYcrUHVPWGnyER9RZh hce/cwxCFhZsNCG0WI+uVJP4xu1kJ9G7Zfri4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=thB18Mip+PteQALz1jBf3ckJyv4gil78bh+McuEIRVuvgCc8THnfjjwx1huRMfNSjn i6FlX77ipUuoN3TpxzYCkyiFTkLOOvEuEi+UWp0HofTPnVLYAWaQiezNATF/iH5X1ntD DyXICwVK5SsfIcfWCcipkfeVcAGxi5rSKKdgM= Received: by 10.150.3.31 with SMTP id 31mr7821205ybc.313.1257740288254; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm924359ywf.40.2009.11.08.20.18.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:18:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF797FD.3030208@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:18:05 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aflatoon Aflatooni References: <556060.58336.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <556060.58336.qm@web56205.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happened to the colors in VIM 7.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:18:09 -0000 Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: > It looks like the color schemas in VIM 7.2 are missing? > > Any ideas? > The seem to work for me: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Apr 25 2009 13:00:07) my ~/.vimrc: colorscheme elflord syntax enable set backspace=indent,eol,start From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 04:31:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9F6106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from mailscanner1.peak.org (mailscanner1.peak.org [69.59.192.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C488FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (mail02.peak.org [69.59.192.42]) by mailscanner1.peak.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA94UwYa024759; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:30:58 -0800 Received: from cjlinux.localnet (dialup-4.255.65.13.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net [4.255.65.13]) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id nA94UdeY019884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from carlj by cjlinux.localnet with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7Kps-0003IY-Ka; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:22:32 -0800 To: Ruben de Groot References: <20091107223558.GB61756@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091107230703.GA94028@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87639lpmj6.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> <20091108104837.GA64633@ei.bzerk.org> From: Carl Johnson Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:22:32 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20091108104837.GA64633@ei.bzerk.org> (Ruben de Groot's message of "Sun\, 8 Nov 2009 11\:48\:37 +0100") Message-ID: <87skcoo007.fsf@cjlinux.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: nA94UwYa024759 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.495, required 6, AWL -0.05, BAYES_00 -2.60, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION 0.16) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: carlj@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating from Linux (keeping partitions at install time) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:31:09 -0000 Ruben de Groot writes: > On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 10:18:21PM -0800, Carl Johnson typed: >> Frank Shute writes: >> >> > On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 05:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> >> > [snip] >> >> >> >> Not so sure I did anything for your most important question - if ext2 s ext3 >> >> is a problem, but I hope the rest is helpful. >> >> >> > >> > No, it's not a problem Jerry. ext3 is basically ext2 + journal, so you >> > can mount it at as ext2 from within FreeBSD (or Linux). >> > >> > The journal sorts itself out when you boot Linux and it mounts the >> > filesystem as ext3. >> >> I haven't been able to mount some ext3 filesystems. When I >> experimented, it appears that most new ext3 filesystems default to 256 >> byte inodes. When I created a filesystem with 128 byte inodes then >> FreeBSD could mount it just fine. I didn't try ext2, but I think the >> inode is independent of ext2 or ext3. This is for FreeBSD >> 7.1-RELEASE, so maybe things have changed for 7.2 or 8.0. > > This has been patched: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/124621 Thanks for the information, but I notice that it was put into stable *very* recently, so I hope it gets into 8.0-RELEASE. I wasn't too worried about it since the workaround was obvious once I identified the problem. I actually prefer to use Reiserfs, but it appears that nobody is working on rw access for it. Like the original poster, I am a Debian user who is experimenting with it, but from VirtualBox for now. I will probably try setting up dual boot when 8.0 comes out. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 05:20:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A501065672 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30528FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so78996ewy.43 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KNydoH69rvO0IvpKzShG0U8lNjSuOKMsmXYMKCevOcs=; b=PhcWl3I5H+mLMv7mu2aW5gXhSTmdiMDlbAJoS4sJTSh0JofVV0JJExx9j/UgMo+dEn kM5eBPJd5bJDWpoWpQbOGcBMw11Me3lx3rHNwL1e6pckfhIMvO7F/M0EJy9phpaGHaQE ctXDc1AcMLuuiwDEkDer+WcZQHjd9z1SOpuGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xFxX36tmLrE25fQW9mzkI3L0pTg2WS/EhG8bNFTMe4e1nysHYk8Bb+13MDVwHGc0y9 h4gatwj/hAHS3kgyXyGCNyZUJCZq1ZUs5AFddtaZV3fpgBkk+q69TaDG7oL9Uwtvkj6G /Qa56XdMZ0WWTO1BUiTQaCtoQYzQICmd97MDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.1.28 with SMTP id 28mr2687427ebd.70.1257744050107; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:20:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:20:50 -0500 Message-ID: <1d7089c40911082120x93cb145k9e04d6e2a7afe990@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: a javascript issue wrt FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:20:52 -0000 A FreeBSD machine I have has caught a scripting virus; And I'd rather not save what I must and rebuild it -- though if I have to I will of course. Anyone got any ideas to find/isolate the virus? Please copy me directly, my email service is limited until I can fix this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 05:41:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3E3106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F528FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so541684qwb.7 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:41:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tF8KAjsMjBdHRagOuLi1xvZKB7l3uExaVAnFZjU/u8A=; b=SJdChk4gJIRiY+rzxH+rNq7eJg3CZ86xwzM7Zpc8WfmY6O5HMB4x7S2mPhA6wupnHn rJ3URndlv5Iy6mLOU1tJ5XrDj7+v4wSA7JuZ5XnYpKr7LPjVvnqztJBJS4CIX5i1Q1uR WAztwKl/8UPBuAWx4Zf2k+q2AnRaqFoPkU4h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PSnLJdgVSX+Cb1aLJg2NDUZtnKNT+ONQSoIMoyEdhUGhCTmxmIq48O7/zKHfJtPWjg MuMlb+k7/xgpUt59WtNQ3X2WRYx7+VzqDDKr/oVsA13mOprwkvmYNx9fr1JKZGX4k9HF U9PScXVVpNDFWftla68gdYkdHheA0J99n6P/E= Received: by 10.224.65.5 with SMTP id g5mr3860746qai.343.1257745283963; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from aryeh-desktop.istudentunion.com (ool-44c0cd7a.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.205.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm158053qyk.8.2009.11.08.21.41.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:41:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF7AB81.7070102@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:41:21 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henry Olyer References: <1d7089c40911082120x93cb145k9e04d6e2a7afe990@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40911082120x93cb145k9e04d6e2a7afe990@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a javascript issue wrt FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:41:25 -0000 It is *EXTREMELY* unlike the issue is with JavaScript because JS can not call on any kind of OS service (at least on the client side).... are you running a web server that allows files/arbitary text to be uploaded (I'll bet thats where it came from)... now if the virus effects your browser only then what you described is possible... in that case (I am assuming your using firefox here) erase the ".mozilla" directory in your home directory (this will reset ff to all defaults) Henry Olyer wrote: > A FreeBSD machine I have has caught a scripting virus; And I'd rather > not save what I must and rebuild it -- though if I have to I will of > course. > > Anyone got any ideas to find/isolate the virus? > > Please copy me directly, my email service is limited until I can fix this. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 06:52:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6B6106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244428FC1A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA96pPWe072154; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:51:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:52:11 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20091109065210.GA28861@thought.org> References: <20091108024038.GA23704@thought.org> <20091108215713.aabc3e1f.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091108215713.aabc3e1f.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: stuff and even more problems.... [ to mostly the hard core ] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:52:20 -0000 On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 09:57:13PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:40:41 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > it was .LT. sixty bux > > and next-to-worthless given my disability.[*] > > [...] > > [*] gotta type CTRL-ALT-Shift at just the right keyrate (+/- 0.000000000001s:) > > to change ports. > > What happended to the "old" fahioned way of having a simple > knob that you can turn to one of the 4 positions? Too > mechanically? Not "modern" enough? Not prone enough to > errors? > hah. i had no idea what i was ordering--well, other than a KVM switch. doubt if my college friend did either. what i bought was around sixty bux; the model with buttons Plus cables was around $150. und, zo, i guess do you get what pay for. except that:: there was nothing in the ad about having to hit ctrl-alt-shift so precisely. live 'n' learn, guys. they are looking to gouge you out of every last penny every which way they can. > I sill have such a switch here, but I'm lacking the cables; > they are maybe triple as expensive as a new "modern" switch > including cables which requires a race across the keyboard > in order to switch the targets. i was typing the three keys in about 1/15th sec. too fast. about 1/5th sec is too slow. i can't guess the rate, but it's hard to get just-right! (here is where i would pull out my hair and yell AARGH ... but i'm too fried:) > > Man, I sound sooo oooold... :-) > > Back on topic: With the use of an USB->PS/2 adaptor, you > could be lucky; most USB keyboards function as intended in > such a setting, but I've already found that not all of them > do. Strangely, the older ones (such as IBM model M) do, but > I had a "modern" Dell keyboard that didn't work with a > converter as mentioned above, allthoug it should (and worked > correct plugged in directly, and other keyboards workeed > correct with the adaptor). i think you have it backwards, polyt. the kvm switch has PS/2 plugs; the dell has [[i think female]] slots/jacks. tomorrow [OR monday/ here:)], i'll dig out the keyboard and plug its usb connector. see if the crapy/bleepy "os" boots. LOL. > > Strange stuff, produced by "modern" IT manufacturers... > > You'll end up having to try it. > i copy that, man. gary PS: One solid bit of good news is that Zeus is answering my prayers. no power-outs here > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 06:56:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3D11065694 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC858FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:56:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so112197ewy.43 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dc6y51crvx8iMP/BrZ7DwW9RdqSsH+D4uTlUaNcB+RQ=; b=TKP+Z7oCIUkUZkU66/U+Fa5usnn72bYVHjwx4vcZWY7ozGEqhraLv9Ekm54xRTX2gZ crVh3XHED3TISMqdLlj1cFWdtsecd4XmfhulzPRidOu7zhex7kuVfEvOSK1d3FJsHkxs bGlsZWVHCK0QBjEAzAEIkaqtQTcVK2Q0VbRpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=KtV2PediDk3JSLLSd0hT7JYnHq/Ry2LNRMBiDiMfnbi6JBPjpwyJWpWcrjvWohpv97 7k5736lokcZTlnFkTuS1CrzbC1FTYvNi9l03UfG8nQpKLFikObQVlU3VH+A6OnJJtEZD clW+gaEep7D7K/+hq6Bz2PISkrQV+6wXlB7aI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.213 with SMTP id c63mr2340214wef.211.1257749773996; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:56:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 06:56:13 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: dougb@FreeBSD.org, Scott Bennett Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:56:15 -0000 Scott Bennett wrote: >I would like to install science/gnudatalanguage but have been running >into various obstacles. Lars Engels very kindly just fixed one of them >(devel/lasi) (Thanks, Lars!), so now I'm on to the next one, which may not >be a showstopper, but it's at least a nuisance. One of the gnudatalanguage >dependencies is math/py-numpy, which, in turn, depends upon math/atlas. >However, I have math/atlas-devel installed and do not wish to revert to an >older, slower version of the ATLAS library. Adding a "-x atlas-\*" onto >the portmaster command to build math/py-numpy fails to prevent portmaster >from trying to build math/atlas. Creating a >/var/db/pkg/atlas-3.8.3_1,1/+IGNOREME file in addition doesn't help. How >can I force math/py-numpy to accept the already installed math/atlas-devel >libraries? >Thanks in advance for any help! Congratulations, you've managed to defeat three sets of safeguards in portmaster. Problem #1 math/atlas and math/atlas-devel don't have proper CONFLICTS entries in their Makefiles (this should be fixed), so the following code in portmaster, from dependency_check (): 1612 conflicts='' 1613 if pm_cd $d_port; then 1614 grep -ql ^CONFLICTS Makefile && 1615 conflicts=`pm_make_b -V CONFLICTS` 1616 else 1617 fail "Cannot cd to $d_port" 1618 fi 1619 for glob in $conflicts; do 1620 confl_p=`pkg_info -I $glob 2>/dev/null` 1621 if [ -n "$confl_p" ]; then 1622 confl_p=${confl_p%% *} 1623 echo '' 1624 echo "===>>> The dependency for ${origin}" 1625 echo " seems to be handled by $confl_p" 1626 echo '' 1627 d_port="$pd/`origin_from_pdb $confl_p`" 1628 fi 1629 done doesn't substitute your alternative dependency, math/atlas-devel, for math/atlas. Problem #2: You're using the -x flag incorrectly. Or portmaster isn't implementing it properly when the port to be excluded is not actually installed, take your pick. It's not completely fool-proof. Since you don't have math/atlas installed, the code in portmaster's dependency_check (): 1632 origin="${d_port#$pd/}" ; iport=`iport_from_origin ${origin}` 1633 1634 if [ -n "$iport" ]; then 1635 check_exclude $iport || continue 1636 else 1637 check_exclude $origin || continue 1638 fi gives origin="math/atlas", and then uses: 385 iport_from_origin () { 386 local dir 387 dir=`grep -l "@comment ORIGIN:${1}$" $pdb/*/+CONTENTS` 388 389 # It should not happen that more than one port meets this 390 # requirement, but it can if the pkg data is corrupted. 391 dir="${dir%%/+CONTENTS*}" 392 echo ${dir#$pdb/} 393 } to find that iport="" , so "check_exclude math/atlas" is called. Then, in accordance with: 1483 check_exclude () { 1484 [ -n "$PM_EXCL" ] || return 0 1485 1486 local pat 1487 1488 for pat in $PM_EXCL; do 1489 case "$1" in 1490 *${pat}*) 1491 if [ -n "$PM_VERBOSE" ]; then 1492 echo "===>>> Skipping $1" 1493 echo " because it matches the pattern: *${pat}*" 1494 echo '' 1495 fi 1496 return 1 ;; 1497 esac 1498 done 1499 1500 return 0 1501 } check_exclude tries to match your patterns in PM_EXCL against "math/atlas". But you've got "atlas-" in PM_EXCL (after portmaster's globstrip removed the trailing asterisk, negating your attempt protect it with quotes), which won't match because of the hyphen. It would have matched if math/atlas were actually installed, in which case iport="atlas-3.8.3_1,1" and portmaster would have compared iport with *atlas-*. You must use a port origin glob with the -x flag when the port that you wish to exclude isn't installed. Problem #3: The +IGNOREME checks in portmaster aren't properly implemented for this case, so they fail to prevent math/atlas from being built. To see this, Continue along in dependency_check (). Here, since iport="", dependency_check () next calls "check_interactive math/atlas": 1459 check_interactive () { 1460 [ -n "$INTERACTIVE_UPDATE" ] || return 0 1461 1462 local update_to 1463 1464 [ -n "$2" ] && update_to=" to $2" 1465 1466 case "$INTERACTIVE_YES" in *:${1}:*) return 0 ;; esac 1467 case "$INTERACTIVE_NO" in *:${1}:*) return 1 ;; esac 1468 1469 if [ -e "$pdb/$1/+IGNOREME" ]; then 1470 echo '' 1471 echo "===>>> +IGNOREME file is present for $1" 1472 fi 1473 1474 echo '' ; echo -n "===>>> Update ${1}${update_to}? [y] " 1475 local answer ; read answer 1476 case "$answer" in 1477 [nN]*) INTERACTIVE_NO="${INTERACTIVE_NO}${1}:" ; return 1 ;; 1478 *) INTERACTIVE_YES="${INTERACTIVE_YES}${1}:" ;; 1479 esac 1480 return 0 1481 } This subroutine can only fail if you've specified an interactive update and you decline to update math/atlas. If that case, portmaster will start to build math/py-numpy, and if math/atlas-devel is installed with the needed static libraries, then math/py-numpy should build normally. Apparently this didn't happen during your attempts. The +IGNOREME check is useless here because the subroutine checks only for /var/db/pkg/math/atlas/+IGNOREME, not the usual /var/db/pkg/atlas-3.8.3_1,1/+IGNOREME. Returning to dependency_check (), "update_port math/atlas" is called next, which then recursively calls "portmaster math/atlas" with many of your original flags. This jumps to 1943 # Figure out what we are going to be working on Shortly afterwards, portdir is found to be ="math/atlas", and 2020 [ -z "$upg_port" -a -z "$REPLACE_ORIGIN" ] && 2021 upg_port=`iport_from_origin ${portdir}` gives upg_port="", as before when computing iport in dependency_check (). Hence 2023 if [ -e "$pdb/$upg_port/+IGNOREME" ]; then is false, and another +IGNOREME check is bypassed. math/atlas is then built. So what can you do while these problems are being fixed? You could either: 1) Install math/atlas-devel, and use -x math/atlas on the portmaster command line; or 2) Install math/atlas-devel, and use only interactive portmaster builds in which you decline to build math/atlas; or 3) Install math/atlas-devel, and patch the math/atlas Makefile: --- ports/math/atlas/Makefile.orig 2009-11-09 01:19:21.000000000 -0500 +++ ports/math/atlas/Makefile 2009-11-09 01:15:55.000000000 -0500 @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@ USE_GMAKE= yes WRKSRC= ${WRKDIR}/ATLAS USE_LDCONFIG= yes +CONFLICTS= atlas-devel-[0-9]* .include ; or 4) Patch the math/py-numpy Makefile: --- ports/math/py-numpy/Makefile.orig 2009-11-08 20:49:13.000000000 -0500 +++ ports/math/py-numpy/Makefile 2009-11-08 20:49:30.000000000 -0500 @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ .include .if defined(WITH_ATLAS) -LIB_DEPENDS+= atlas.2:${PORTSDIR}/math/atlas +LIB_DEPENDS+= atlas.2:${PORTSDIR}/math/atlas-devel .if !exists(${LOCALBASE}/lib/libalapack.a) IGNORE= atlas needs to be built with WITH_STATICLIB for numpy to function properly .endif ; or 5) Use portupgrade for science/gnudatalanguage and math/py-numpy, instead of portmaster, with ALT_PKGDEP set to substitute math/atlas-devel for math/atlas in pkgtools.conf; or 6) Put an +IGNOREME in directories for science/gnudatalanguage and math/py-numpy as well as math/atlas, and update these ports by hand, with make -C ... deinstall clean install ... ; or 7) (Ugly hack) Install math/atlas-devel, and then math/py-numpy, by hand. Thereafter, before each invocation of portmaster involving math/py-numpy, edit that port's registration information, switching it's math/atlas-related entries in +CONTENTS to math/atlas-devel. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 07:07:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26749106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tkjacobsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5C68FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so3241987bwz.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:07:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gKRZkngIoKa1misJqUgy9v40+qXDdcCSn1aGx4se6Bo=; b=LXitIO/gqrZ6AcF/Qp+UKBMzNhu4M65/Lf9HvYzKllu9uKsK1RBRfFofIpGsma6opE ZGNg3KdkabLupB/N8/BQt5/MraCwiU9HdrsqtUtNaJ4Ppj1+dOz0MR7P5+e+laZnmqBw J0FCQFvnjP9tVADLXgS0F3+TUDOvAB57muEqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jciISs65bzrXceKPzCIxuK4HeJbE4IP4sJZUrgO63IxPEDwd44gBsWKRfXQuR4Ghc5 ZfA7bUNjLKUhm36wpy34bZjmza2D9nicDw9nr+w5D4sdv0cQMI7QfD3YJ7ilrACOY2Zq fvTfTMQG8DBD2G1HupJ9rgu3acDmX6bJXomwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.182.161 with SMTP id q33mr727474hbg.41.1257750461601; Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:07:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091108222640.GH54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> <20091108222640.GH54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:07:41 +0100 Message-ID: <6a3173850911082307i472e600dp111b6e9a83e85086@mail.gmail.com> From: Troels Kofoed Jacobsen To: Roman Neuhauser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracking commit messages from cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:07:44 -0000 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > On Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 08:06:13PM +0100, Troels Kofoed Jacobsen wrote: >> With pkg_version I can easily see which installed ports has newer >> versions available, but what I miss is a way to see what has changed. >> The reason for this is that commit messages often say that only the >> pkg-plist has changed or something that does not make me want to update. > > ... > >> I know freshports exist, but I would rather not have to open a web >> browser. >> >> Does such a program exist or do I have to write my own. > > sorry to point out the obvious, but why not use svn (or cvs)? > As I said: "without having to track the whole tree". I know this would be a possibility, but would rather not use the convenience of portsnap. Also if the solution should be more usable for other people I would like it to be as simple as possible and not require so much overhead. Anyway, thanks for the answer -- maybe I'll just do that eventually. -- Med Venlig Hilsen Troels Kofoed Jacobsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 07:59:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA9B106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BD48FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31619 invoked by uid 399); 9 Nov 2009 07:59:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 9 Nov 2009 07:59:30 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4AF7CBE1.70704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:29 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "b. f." References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: maho@freebsd.org, Scott Bennett , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:59:32 -0000 First, sorry I missed the original problem report, I'm not subscribed to -questions. Usually ports questions (including those about tools) are handled on freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, but OTOH if you're not sure where to send a question it's always better to start on the -questions list. :) Second, thanks to b.f. for the very thorough analysis of the problem. I will respond and trim a bit as I go. Third, I've cc'ed maho@ since the genesis of the problem is that math/atlas and math/atlas-devel aren't setting CONFLICTS when apparently they should be. maho, if you need any help with this let me know. b. f. wrote: > Scott Bennett wrote: >> I would like to install science/gnudatalanguage but have been running >> into various obstacles. Lars Engels very kindly just fixed one of them >> (devel/lasi) (Thanks, Lars!), so now I'm on to the next one, which may not >> be a showstopper, but it's at least a nuisance. One of the gnudatalanguage >> dependencies is math/py-numpy, which, in turn, depends upon math/atlas. >> However, I have math/atlas-devel installed and do not wish to revert to an >> older, slower version of the ATLAS library. Adding a "-x atlas-\*" onto >> the portmaster command to build math/py-numpy fails to prevent portmaster >>from trying to build math/atlas. As was pointed out, that definitely won't work. With the glob patterns for exclusions, or specifying ports on the command line you want to be as conservative as possible. Also, it's not necessary to include a * at the end, portmaster will handle that for you. >> Creating a >> /var/db/pkg/atlas-3.8.3_1,1/+IGNOREME file in addition doesn't help. +IGNOREME files are only relevant to installed ports. >> How >> can I force math/py-numpy to accept the already installed math/atlas-devel >> libraries? >> Thanks in advance for any help! The easiest way for you to accomplish this would have been to use '-x atlas', the second-easiest would have been to use the -i command line option. See the man page for more information on that. > Congratulations, you've managed to defeat three sets of safeguards in > portmaster. > > Problem #1 > > math/atlas and math/atlas-devel don't have proper CONFLICTS entries in > their Makefiles (this should be fixed), Yes, this analysis was essentially correct. > Problem #2: > > You're using the -x flag incorrectly. Or portmaster isn't > implementing it properly when the port to be excluded is not actually > installed, take your pick. The way that -x is implemented currently really depends on the user's definition of the exclude pattern, and is designed to exclude things as early as possible so as to avoid what would ultimately become wasted effort. It's hard to justify modifying the code to guess that something we've already started working on might match what we think the user MEANT instead of what they SAID. > Problem #3: > > The +IGNOREME checks in portmaster aren't properly implemented for > this case, so they fail to prevent math/atlas from being built. s/properly implemented for/designed to handle/ If you think about this for a second, the entries in /var/db/pkg are exclusively related to installed ports, so trying to use an +IGNOREME file for this purpose doesn't make sense, although I can sympathize with the OPs sense of desperation here. :) > So what can you do while these problems are being fixed? Just to be clear, I didn't see anything that needs to be fixed in your message, and I hope my explanation makes it clear why. If you think that there are actual bugs that need to be fixed please feel free to create a thread on -ports to discuss them. hope this helps, Doug PS, Can't resist ... http://dougbarton.us/portmaster-proposal.html -- Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover! http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 08:37:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2D9106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABC28FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30BB183A2299; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:37:27 +0100 (CET) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA98bUYZ002075; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:37:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:37:30 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20091109083730.GA1976@current.Sisis.de> References: <20091105131339.GA3804@current.Sisis.de> <20091109013816.5B1A5BE92@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20091109013816.5B1A5BE92@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: splitting Mbox file thread-sorted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:37:29 -0000 El día Sunday, November 08, 2009 a las 08:38:15PM -0500, Karl Vogel escribió: > >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:13:39 +0100, > >> Matthias Apitz said: > > M> Is there some tool or something in the ports which could split a Mbox > M> file into various pieces, but having the threads together? > > Mail::Thread is a Perl implementation of Jamie Zawinski's mail threading > algorithm, as described by http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html. > See http://search.cpan.org/ to track it down. Hello Karl, Thanks for the pointer to that piece of code; do you know if there is some implementation of this into a cmdline tool for splitting a Mbox based on this Perl methods? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 08:50:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265C6106566B; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D632E8FC19; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1N7PxR-0008Ld-Pv>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:50:41 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1N7PxR-00042q-OG>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:51:14 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:50:43 -0000 Hello. I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions from a through h except b and c is now obsoleted. When dropping into the installation process, I realised that the 8 partition boundary is still present. Is there a howto (I searched the wiki and lists without success)? I read a lot about how to install FreeBSD on op of a complete ZFS infrastructure, but key issue seems to be a hands-on partitioning of the target haddrive via the fixit procedure. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 10:01:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D339106568F; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2518FC16; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so216143ewy.43 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:01:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZhznlEl/3AMt9eYeFemRys7rKRL21hdyNfKNgtB/vxg=; b=YuBLyUIn8lRzBDDgUlZp9xym01kv13NRuS7y/uqYhQn4g2zrQmcQprv/v985fnAJyf sVmu6RjhvWQNitTGfa5s1a5PrtxMb/QY5houweTgfH9QNISIOkkdlMqBZnq0w6DKM+Wx LAgEmDl1ywZkkTOaF/iFi583Ej/LbnBJoObao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=d5Yl+6NvkwzQg6i6AznRr6BRvogn52HWtQ1XrZGtyw1rRjJFx59ihNFIkAy6mpkRqf 9MwcH4x/6e/mBp2GbR0EBF7moiNvli0PhJpIGz9Zax5/AfBDmsp31ELlkpWCLfh380dN 61ueUUEjNueOHPhXJBL8F4ce6PyPXRHAlDDhI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.132 with SMTP id w4mr2425258wee.87.1257760879517; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:01:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF7CBE1.70704@FreeBSD.org> References: <4AF7CBE1.70704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:01:19 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Doug Barton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:01:21 -0000 On 11/9/09, Doug Barton wrote: > First, sorry I missed the original problem report, I'm not subscribed > to -questions. Usually ports questions (including those about tools) > are handled on freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, but OTOH if you're not sure > where to send a question it's always better to start on the -questions > list. :) > > Second, thanks to b.f. for the very thorough analysis of the problem. > I will respond and trim a bit as I go. > > Third, I've cc'ed maho@ since the genesis of the problem is that > math/atlas and math/atlas-devel aren't setting CONFLICTS when > apparently they should be. maho, if you need any help with this let me > know. > > b. f. wrote: >> Scott Bennett wrote: >>> I would like to install science/gnudatalanguage but have been running >>> into various obstacles. Lars Engels very kindly just fixed one of them >>> (devel/lasi) (Thanks, Lars!), so now I'm on to the next one, which may >>> not >>> be a showstopper, but it's at least a nuisance. One of the >>> gnudatalanguage >>> dependencies is math/py-numpy, which, in turn, depends upon math/atlas. >>> However, I have math/atlas-devel installed and do not wish to revert to >>> an >>> older, slower version of the ATLAS library. Adding a "-x atlas-\*" onto >>> the portmaster command to build math/py-numpy fails to prevent portmaster >>>from trying to build math/atlas. > > As was pointed out, that definitely won't work. With the glob patterns > for exclusions, or specifying ports on the command line you want to be > as conservative as possible. Also, it's not necessary to include a * > at the end, portmaster will handle that for you. > >>> Creating a >>> /var/db/pkg/atlas-3.8.3_1,1/+IGNOREME file in addition doesn't help. > > +IGNOREME files are only relevant to installed ports. > >>> How >>> can I force math/py-numpy to accept the already installed >>> math/atlas-devel >>> libraries? >>> Thanks in advance for any help! > > The easiest way for you to accomplish this would have been to use '-x > atlas', the second-easiest would have been to use the -i command line > option. See the man page for more information on that. > >> Congratulations, you've managed to defeat three sets of safeguards in >> portmaster. >> >> Problem #1 >> >> math/atlas and math/atlas-devel don't have proper CONFLICTS entries in >> their Makefiles (this should be fixed), > > Yes, this analysis was essentially correct. > >> Problem #2: >> >> You're using the -x flag incorrectly. Or portmaster isn't >> implementing it properly when the port to be excluded is not actually >> installed, take your pick. > > The way that -x is implemented currently really depends on the user's > definition of the exclude pattern, and is designed to exclude things > as early as possible so as to avoid what would ultimately become > wasted effort. It's hard to justify modifying the code to guess that > something we've already started working on might match what we think > the user MEANT instead of what they SAID. > >> Problem #3: >> >> The +IGNOREME checks in portmaster aren't properly implemented for >> this case, so they fail to prevent math/atlas from being built. > > s/properly implemented for/designed to handle/ > > If you think about this for a second, the entries in /var/db/pkg are > exclusively related to installed ports, so trying to use an +IGNOREME > file for this purpose doesn't make sense, although I can sympathize > with the OPs sense of desperation here. :) > >> So what can you do while these problems are being fixed? > > Just to be clear, I didn't see anything that needs to be fixed in your > message, and I hope my explanation makes it clear why. If you think > that there are actual bugs that need to be fixed please feel free to > create a thread on -ports to discuss them. > The CONFLICTS for math/atlas* should be fixed, as you remarked. As for portmaster, I'll allow that your choices were reasonable, but it would be wise to note in the manpage that: 1) +IGNOREME files only work with installed ports (just because the package database is naturally associated with installed ports doesn't mean that someone won't create an +IGNOREME for one that isn't installed), and 2) when trying to prevent the build or installation of a port that is not currently installed, the exclusion glob will be compared with the port directory, rather than the PKGNAME, as is done for installed packages. Using something like: #!/bin/sh for _dir in `make -C /usr/ports -V SUBDIR` ; do for _dir2 in `make -C /usr/ports/${_dir} -V SUBDIR` ; do _pkgname=`make -C /usr/ports/${_dir}/${_dir2} -V PKGNAME` case "${_dir}/${_dir2}" in *${_pkgname%%-[0-9]*}*) ;; *) echo "${_dir}/${_dir2} ${_pkgname}" ;; esac ; done ; done one can find a number of ports that might surprise a user that was not aware of this fact. And with regard to the selection of exclusion globs, we should note that a glob that matches too many ports may be as problematic as one that matches too few. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 10:16:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3431065670; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:16:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D286F8FC16; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1N7RIL-0003F2-0J>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:16:21 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1N7RIK-0001mA-Uz>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:16:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4AF7EC16.6050707@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:16:54 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: MSI RAdeon R4670/512 and xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-radeonhd-devel crashes! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:16:23 -0000 Hello. Please respond also to my eMail address, since I'm not subscriber of these lists! Thanks. Since I utilise a MSI Radeon R4670/512 RV730-based graphics card, I'im incapable of using either x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati or x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd[-devel] The box is a ASUS P5K-Premium based system (Intel P35 chipset, CPU Intel Q6600), running FreeBSD 8.0-RC2/amd64 successfully. The X11 subsystem ist the most recent as one can find in the ports collection. I'll attach the logfile of the currently running Xserver. My box got a new 24 inch TFT display so using VESA driver or lower resolutions than 1920x1200 isn't acceptable. The situation is as follows: In all cases it doesn't matter wheter kernel module 'drm.ko' is loaded or not. Driver 'radeon' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati) crashes the box immediately without any messages. I can see the xdm-login requester, but just before this shows up, I realise that the mousepointer sprite gets a kind of 'distorted', it shows up some 'stripes'. They vanish. When log in and the desktop is about to show up (using windowmaker), the screen stays black, the box crahes and in some lucky situations, it reboots, in less lucky situations it remains frozen. Driver 'radeonhd' (xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.5_2) works, but without 'options EXA' and without 'options DRI'. It is bumpy, but shows a 1920x1200 pixel screen in full colours. Driver 'radeonhd' (xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0) doesn't work, it shows the same behaviour as 'radeon' (xf86-video-ati). I can wathc the mouse pointer sprite getting striped and a kind of distorted, then the box crashes. Those crashes occur mostly when switching from xdm-login requester to desktop. In some cases I can switch to the console (pressing ctrl-alt-[F1--F7]), but at some point, this also freezes/crashes the box. I'm a little bit confused, since the ATi-RV730LE chipset is supposed to be supported. I run another box, an older nVidia CK804-based Athlon3500+ box equipted with a MSI R4830/512 graphics card. The same base OS (FreeBSD 8.0-RC2/amd64. The graphics board runs perfectly with ALL(!) radeon-type drivers, options EXA and DRI enabled, kernel module drm.ko loaded. Can someone help? Since I do not have Windows XP/Vista/7 running on the box in question, I can not update the firmware of the MSI R4760 with a potentially existing firmware-update (since those tasks can only be performed via a special software from MSI running on XP/Vista as far as I know). Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 10:37:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776C01065672; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438698FC18; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9AbqZX021279; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:37:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:37:52 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200911091037.nA9Abq9b021278@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: "b. f." , dougb@FreeBSD.org Cc: maho@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:37:56 -0000 On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:29 -0800 Doug Barton wrote: >First, sorry I missed the original problem report, I'm not subscribed >to -questions. Usually ports questions (including those about tools) >are handled on freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, but OTOH if you're not sure >where to send a question it's always better to start on the -questions >list. :) The responses I got the last time I posted something to -ports convinced me not to post there anymore. I'm still subscribed, however, so I still see what transpires there. > >Second, thanks to b.f. for the very thorough analysis of the problem. Yes, indeed, thanks. It was fascinating. >I will respond and trim a bit as I go. > >Third, I've cc'ed maho@ since the genesis of the problem is that >math/atlas and math/atlas-devel aren't setting CONFLICTS when >apparently they should be. maho, if you need any help with this let me >know. I've left the Cc in as well because IIRC, Maho was heavily involved in the upgrade of immense numbers of ports to gfortran42. The next obstacle in math/py-numpy outlined further below may well be a missed relic of that effort. > >b. f. wrote: >> Scott Bennett wrote: >>> I would like to install science/gnudatalanguage but have been running >>> into various obstacles. Lars Engels very kindly just fixed one of them >>> (devel/lasi) (Thanks, Lars!), so now I'm on to the next one, which may not >>> be a showstopper, but it's at least a nuisance. One of the gnudatalanguage >>> dependencies is math/py-numpy, which, in turn, depends upon math/atlas. >>> However, I have math/atlas-devel installed and do not wish to revert to an >>> older, slower version of the ATLAS library. Adding a "-x atlas-\*" onto >>> the portmaster command to build math/py-numpy fails to prevent portmaster >>>from trying to build math/atlas. > >As was pointed out, that definitely won't work. With the glob patterns >for exclusions, or specifying ports on the command line you want to be >as conservative as possible. Also, it's not necessary to include a * >at the end, portmaster will handle that for you. > >>> Creating a >>> /var/db/pkg/atlas-3.8.3_1,1/+IGNOREME file in addition doesn't help. > >+IGNOREME files are only relevant to installed ports. > >>> How >>> can I force math/py-numpy to accept the already installed math/atlas-devel >>> libraries? >>> Thanks in advance for any help! > >The easiest way for you to accomplish this would have been to use '-x >atlas', the second-easiest would have been to use the -i command line >option. See the man page for more information on that. Yes, thanks much to both of you. Cutting the option back to just "-x atlas" did the trick, allowing math/atlas to be skipped. Here's what it looks like giving the desired action: ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/math/py-numpy ===>>> Gathering distinfo list for installed ports ===>>> Launching 'make checksum' for math/py-numpy in background ===>>> Gathering dependency list for math/py-numpy from ports ===>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check ===>>> Checking dependency: devel/py-nose ===>>> Launching child to update devel/py-nose math/py-numpy >> devel/py-nose ===>>> Port directory: /usr/ports/devel/py-nose ===>>> Launching 'make checksum' for devel/py-nose in background ===>>> Gathering dependency list for devel/py-nose from ports ===>>> Starting recursive 'make config' check ===>>> Checking dependency: devel/py-setuptools ===>>> Checking dependency: lang/python26 ===>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for devel/py-nose math/py-numpy >> devel/py-nose ===>>> Continuing 'make config' dependency check for math/py-numpy ===>>> Checking dependency: lang/gcc44 ===>>> Checking dependency: lang/python26 ===>>> Checking dependency: math/atlas ===>>> Skipping math/atlas because it matches the pattern: *atlas* ===>>> Checking dependency: math/suitesparse ===>>> Recursive 'make config' check complete for math/py-numpy ===>>> Starting build for math/py-numpy <<<=== ===>>> Starting check for build dependencies ===>>> Gathering dependency list for math/py-numpy from ports ===>>> Starting dependency check ===>>> Checking dependency: lang/gcc44 ===>>> Checking dependency: lang/python26 ===>>> Checking dependency: math/atlas ===>>> Skipping math/atlas because it matches the pattern: *atlas* ===>>> Checking dependency: math/suitesparse ===>>> Dependency check complete for math/py-numpy ===> Cleaning for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 ===> Found saved configuration for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 ===> Extracting for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 > >> Congratulations, you've managed to defeat three sets of safeguards in >> portmaster. Sigh. It has *always* been that way for me. By age 15 I was already stumbling over compiler bugs, library bugs, operating system bugs, and even the occasional, very peculiar sort of hardware bug. It's enough to make one believe in gremlins developing interests in areas other than aviation. :-} In the great majority of those cases, I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary, but somehow I managed to trigger the bugs anyway. >> >> Problem #1 >> >> math/atlas and math/atlas-devel don't have proper CONFLICTS entries in >> their Makefiles (this should be fixed), > >Yes, this analysis was essentially correct. Okay. > >> Problem #2: >> >> You're using the -x flag incorrectly. Or portmaster isn't >> implementing it properly when the port to be excluded is not actually >> installed, take your pick. > >The way that -x is implemented currently really depends on the user's >definition of the exclude pattern, and is designed to exclude things >as early as possible so as to avoid what would ultimately become >wasted effort. It's hard to justify modifying the code to guess that >something we've already started working on might match what we think >the user MEANT instead of what they SAID. > Understood. As noted above, it does work correctly with the shorter string. >> Problem #3: >> >> The +IGNOREME checks in portmaster aren't properly implemented for >> this case, so they fail to prevent math/atlas from being built. > >s/properly implemented for/designed to handle/ > >If you think about this for a second, the entries in /var/db/pkg are >exclusively related to installed ports, so trying to use an +IGNOREME >file for this purpose doesn't make sense, although I can sympathize >with the OPs sense of desperation here. :) Actually, it does make sense, or at least I thought so. If a directory for atlas exists in /var/db/pkg, presumably portmaster will think that the port *is* installed, even if it is not, in fact, installed. Then the +IGNOREME file in that directory ought to prevent further action on that port. > >> So what can you do while these problems are being fixed? > >Just to be clear, I didn't see anything that needs to be fixed in your >message, and I hope my explanation makes it clear why. If you think >that there are actual bugs that need to be fixed please feel free to >create a thread on -ports to discuss them. > Anyway, the math/py-numpy port now proceeds to build without bothering with math/atlas. It quickly goes astray when it doesn't recognize that any of gfortran4[345] has been installed--I guess there no longer is a FORTRAN compiler included in the base system--and instead tries to use lang/g95, which has also been installed. Of course, this won't work because the ATLAS library needs to have been compiled with the same compiler as the programs that use it. ===> Configuring for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 Running from numpy source directory. F2PY Version 2 blas_opt_info: blas_mkl_info:  libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib  libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib  libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../  NOT AVAILABLE  atlas_blas_threads_info: Setting PTATLAS=ATLAS Setting PTATLAS=ATLAS Setting PTATLAS=ATLAS  FOUND:  libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r']  library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib']  language = c  include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include']  /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/command/config.py:361: DeprecationWarning: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Usage of get_output is deprecated: please do not use it anymore, and avoid configuration checks involving running executable on the target machine. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DeprecationWarning) customize GnuFCompiler Found executable /usr/local/bin/gfortran44 gnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found gnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found customize Gnu95FCompiler customize Gnu95FCompiler customize Gnu95FCompiler using config compiling '_configtest.c': /* This file is generated from numpy/distutils/system_info.py */ void ATL_buildinfo(void); int main(void) { ATL_buildinfo(); return 0; } C compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 -fPIC  compile options: '-c' gcc44: _configtest.c gcc44 _configtest.o -L/usr/local/lib -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -o _configtest /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) is referenced by DSO collect2: ld returned 1 exit status /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) is referenced by DSO collect2: ld returned 1 exit status failure. removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o Status: 255 Output:   FOUND:  libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r']  library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib']  language = c  define_macros = [('NO_ATLAS_INFO', 2)]  include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include']  lapack_opt_info: lapack_mkl_info: mkl_info:  libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib  libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib  libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../  NOT AVAILABLE   NOT AVAILABLE  atlas_threads_info: Setting PTATLAS=ATLAS  libraries lapack_atlas not found in /usr/local/lib numpy.distutils.system_info.atlas_threads_info Setting PTATLAS=ATLAS /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/system_info.py:999: UserWarning: ********************************************************************* Lapack library (from ATLAS) is probably incomplete: size of /usr/local/lib/libalapack_r.so is 3832k (expected >4000k) Follow the instructions in the KNOWN PROBLEMS section of the file numpy/INSTALL.txt. ********************************************************************* warnings.warn(message) The above sequence gets more or less repeated several more times, and after much compiling, running of python26, and other activities, the process runs aground as follows. creating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft compile options: '-Inumpy/core/include -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' gcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.c gcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack.c cc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.o build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack.o -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -o build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_lite.so building 'numpy.linalg.lapack_lite' extension compiling C sources C compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 -fPIC  creating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg compile options: '-DATLAS_INFO="\"3.9.11\"" -I/usr/local/include -Inumpy/core/include -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' gcc44: numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.c gcc44: numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.c cc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran error: Command "cc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so" failed with exit status 1 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy. ===>>> make failed for math/py-numpy ===>>> Aborting update I looked in /usr/local/lib and didn't spot libraries by name for gfortran[345], so I assume they have either been renamed or included in with the corresponding gcc libraries. What is the best way to proceed? Will simply deleting the instances of "-lgfortran" do the job? Or do I need to specify the library explicitly? Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 12:38:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33721065693; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88378FC1A; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (adsl-19-213-63.bna.bellsouth.net [68.19.213.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9CcUGp087164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:38:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4AF7EC16.6050707@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4AF7EC16.6050707@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-lHDCv80lctScXit0f3hw" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:38:24 -0600 Message-Id: <1257770304.27939.24.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MSI RAdeon R4670/512 and xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-radeonhd-devel crashes! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:38:33 -0000 --=-lHDCv80lctScXit0f3hw Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 10:16 +0000, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > > Please respond also to my eMail address, since I'm not subscriber of > these lists! Thanks. > > Since I utilise a MSI Radeon R4670/512 RV730-based graphics card, I'im > incapable of using either > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati or > x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd[-devel] Try updating xf86-video-ati, patch attached. robert. > > The box is a ASUS P5K-Premium based system (Intel P35 chipset, CPU Intel > Q6600), running FreeBSD 8.0-RC2/amd64 successfully. The X11 subsystem > ist the most recent as one can find in the ports collection. I'll attach > the logfile of the currently running Xserver. > > My box got a new 24 inch TFT display so using VESA driver or lower > resolutions than 1920x1200 isn't acceptable. The situation is as follows: > > In all cases it doesn't matter wheter kernel module 'drm.ko' is loaded > or not. > > Driver 'radeon' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati) crashes the box immediately > without any messages. I can see the xdm-login requester, but just > before this shows up, I realise that the mousepointer sprite gets a kind > of 'distorted', it shows up some 'stripes'. They vanish. When log in and > the desktop is about to show up (using windowmaker), the screen stays > black, the box crahes and in some lucky situations, it reboots, in less > lucky situations it remains frozen. > > Driver 'radeonhd' (xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.5_2) works, but without > 'options EXA' and without 'options DRI'. It is bumpy, but shows a > 1920x1200 pixel screen in full colours. > > Driver 'radeonhd' (xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0) doesn't work, it shows the > same behaviour as 'radeon' (xf86-video-ati). I can wathc the mouse > pointer sprite getting striped and a kind of distorted, then the box > crashes. > > Those crashes occur mostly when switching from xdm-login requester to > desktop. In some cases I can switch to the console (pressing > ctrl-alt-[F1--F7]), but at some point, this also freezes/crashes the box. > > I'm a little bit confused, since the ATi-RV730LE chipset is supposed to > be supported. I run another box, an older nVidia CK804-based Athlon3500+ > box equipted with a MSI R4830/512 graphics card. The same base OS > (FreeBSD 8.0-RC2/amd64. The graphics board runs perfectly with ALL(!) > radeon-type drivers, options EXA and DRI enabled, kernel module drm.ko > loaded. > > Can someone help? Since I do not have Windows XP/Vista/7 running on the > box in question, I can not update the firmware of the MSI R4760 with a > potentially existing firmware-update (since those tasks can only be > performed via a special software from MSI running on XP/Vista as far as > I know). > > Thanks in advance, > Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-lHDCv80lctScXit0f3hw Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="xf86-video-ati.patch" Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="xf86-video-ati.patch"; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 Makefile --- Makefile 7 May 2009 19:42:35 -0000 1.18 +++ Makefile 9 Nov 2009 12:36:21 -0000 @@ -6,8 +6,7 @@ # PORTNAME= xf86-video-ati -PORTVERSION= 6.12.2 -PORTREVISION= 1 +PORTVERSION= 6.12.4 CATEGORIES= x11-drivers MAINTAINER= x11@FreeBSD.org Index: distinfo =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/distinfo,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 distinfo --- distinfo 8 Apr 2009 15:18:49 -0000 1.14 +++ distinfo 9 Nov 2009 12:36:21 -0000 @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ -MD5 (xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.12.2.tar.bz2) = 2bf50461378771497501ca7f678d36f3 -SHA256 (xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.12.2.tar.bz2) = 1beebba17719f7b9bfbbede156dc33a2dd29ed164657badcb62c7149cfae2750 -SIZE (xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.12.2.tar.bz2) = 902480 +MD5 (xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4.tar.bz2) = e662348f6f957fcedf52818d668ab9f5 +SHA256 (xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4.tar.bz2) = cfde066a7087a19b624f79e95cb9a6c97a847b8802cf38d4ae6022758bf338f6 +SIZE (xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4.tar.bz2) = 915124 --=-lHDCv80lctScXit0f3hw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 12:27:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A2B106568D for ; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:27:56 -0000 Hi, i made the download of FreeBSD amd64 and i wanna know if the amd64 is the s= ame as x86_x64. thank you very much. =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ________________________=0AVeja quais s=E3o os assuntos do momento no Yahoo= ! +Buscados=0Ahttp://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 13:21:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109D71065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0FE8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (87-194-158-129.bethere.co.uk [87.194.158.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 442148774; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:19:54 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Clayton Wilhelm da Rosa Message-ID: <20091109131954.00006b53@unknown> In-Reply-To: <977915.10686.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <977915.10686.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2cvs15 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:21:14 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 04:27:54 -0800 (PST) Clayton Wilhelm da Rosa wrote: > Hi, > > i made the download of FreeBSD amd64 and i wanna know if the amd64 is > the same as x86_x64. Yes, it's the same. amd64, x86_64 and x64 are all the same architecture. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 15:40:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E63106568D for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145728FC2A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (alwinsite.rocketrange.no [128.39.153.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA9FefoS067687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:10:44 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:40:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1910684.G1CgGgD51X"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200911091640.35419.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.312 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: "O. Hartmann" Subject: Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:40:48 -0000 --nextPart1910684.G1CgGgD51X Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline [ -current CC dropped ] On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote: > I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a > barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now > done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions > from a through h except b and c is now obsoleted. When dropping into > the installation process, I realised that the 8 partition boundary is > still present. > Is there a howto (I searched the wiki and lists without success)? I > read a lot about how to install FreeBSD on op of a complete ZFS > infrastructure, but key issue seems to be a hands-on partitioning of > the target haddrive via the fixit procedure. sysinstall does not [yet] do GPT partitions, I believe someone is=20 working on patches but I have no idea what state they are in. Also, I didn't think that bsdlabel was limited to 8 partitions, however=20 I'm not certain. BTW gpart does many partition types not just MBR and GPT. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart1910684.G1CgGgD51X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBK+Dfz5ZPcIHs/zowRApZXAKCUTmCz4NR3F0ZTKt8KwMKtIx3B5wCgqO41 r0lv40eUAKIZI4Jsz44ZmH0= =FEuk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1910684.G1CgGgD51X-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 15:48:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA5F1065676 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A138FC27 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:48:54 -0500 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::262 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Message-ID: <4AF839E5.10303@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:48:53 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090902) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: mfi(4) lockups and the adapter event log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:48:55 -0000 Hello, We saw an odd crash (more of a lockup) on one of our Dell's with a PERC5/i RAID controller (running 6.3-RELEASE-p10): mfi0: COMMAND 0xffffffff89dab0e8 TIMEOUT AFTER 31 SECONDS (repeated many times with different commands) mfi0: 3325 (310696326s/0x0020/4) - Type 18: Fatal firmware error: Line 1091 in ../../raid/verdeMain.c After some troubleshooting with Dell, they determined that there was no problem. An OpenManage live CD was used to run their diagnostic utilities, which turned up nothing. However, after rebooting the system and checking dmesg(8), it could be seen that the adapter was doing some weird things during initialization. It seemed to be going through the whole initialization cycle (Firmware initialization started....) up to five times. This does not jive with our other mfi/PERC5 systems. In addition to the multiple init cycles it was also printing weeks worth of messages from the adapter's event log (mostly battery relearns). Checking the event log with linux-megacli showed TONS of messages. Trying to clear them using linux-megacli seemed to cause a similar lockup, filled with command timeouts, but no fatal firmware error. We ended up clearing the event log using a linux live CD and the linux native MegaCLI binaries. The system hasn't locked up again since, but we're not sure what caused it in the first place. Has anyone else seen any kind of oddities with the PERC series of controllers and the adapter's event log? Does it just fill up after a while and start to cause trouble? I seem to remember a similar post recommending a cleaning of the event logs every so often. Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 16:41:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCD4106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA288FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd3ml2so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.138]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 09:41:45 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=VF9RaR9bft6c8SsOr3WyFg==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=N54-gffFAAAA:8 a=lvbMJxvVAAAA:8 a=9aLzDwfmgkN2xpl3aq0A:9 a=qcirgPNXo1JMdcE80PgA:7 a=VZqSKRwRPn1B1RRMdF5Batz5e20A:4 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO proven.lan) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd3ml2so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2009 09:41:45 -0700 Received: from proven.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9Gfinu099928; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA9GfiJH099927; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke Organization: Archaeological Filing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:41:44 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200911090841.44250.npapke@acm.org> Cc: Masoom Shaikh Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8.0-RC2 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:41:46 -0000 On November 6, 2009, Masoom Shaikh wrote: > problem # 1 > The problem is KDE4 is not able to display anti aliased fonts. I have made > the required changes to make it work, of course, in System Settings -> > Appearance -> Fonts > Hinting -> Full, and there is is one more option, the name i cannot recall > ATM, I have set it to RGB. DPI to 96......this is has worked for all > combination of installs I have used so far, viz KDE3 on FreeBSD-6.x to > KDE4.1.x on FreeBSD-7.x and KDE4.2 on FreeBSD-8.0RC1 My guess is that "print/freetype2" is not built with anti-aliasing support. Rebuild it specifying "WITH_LCD_FILTERING" . See also http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=139603 Cheers, -- Norbert Papke. npapke@acm.org http://saveournet.ca Protecting your Internet's level playing field From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 16:52:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9405B1065679 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D44E8FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22232 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 16:52:32 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Nov 2009 16:52:31 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 17C8B50888; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:52:31 -0500 (EST) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Sven Hazejager References: <8ffccde70911081027m19784be4ve4e33f150a9caa5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:52:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8ffccde70911081027m19784be4ve4e33f150a9caa5b@mail.gmail.com> (Sven Hazejager's message of "Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:27:59 +0100") Message-ID: <44y6mftzch.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2-p4 serial console not showing kernel messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:52:33 -0000 Sven Hazejager writes: > I'm having trouble getting 7.2-p4 to run. I'm using nanoBSD, either > under VMware using a virtual serial null-modem or on an Alix > Soekris-like serial-only CF-based device, both show this problem: my > serial console does not display kernel messages, they all go to the > VGA console! > > I'm using the nanoBSD cust_comsole function to enable the console. > Relevant files are shown here: > > /boot.config: > -h -S57600 > > /etc/ttys, only one line is "on": > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" xterm on secure > > These are still in my kernel conf, if I remove these I get no kernel > messages at all (kernel boots fine with this though): > device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller > device atkbd # AT keyboard > device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer > device vga # VGA video card driver > > I have also tried to set this in the loader, no luck: > hint.sio.0.flags="0x30" > > On the serial console, I see the boot manager (boot0) and the loader > just fine. "show" in the loader says "console=comconsole" so that > seems to be fine. However all kernel output goes to the VGA console. I > *do* get a login prompt after a while on the serial console though. > > If I boot the same kernel over PXE on the ALIX, the kernel messages > *do* go to the serial console... > > What am I overlooking? Checking the obvious: syslog.conf is configured to send the messages to the console? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 17:16:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1EF106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:16:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CA88FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA9HGgNM065821; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:16:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9FFBCBAAD; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:16:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:16:42 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20091109171642.GB42159@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4AF7EC16.6050707@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AF7EC16.6050707@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MSI RAdeon R4670/512 and xf86-video-ati/xf86-video-radeonhd-devel crashes! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:16:45 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 10:16:54AM +0000, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. >=20 > Please respond also to my eMail address, since I'm not subscriber of=20 > these lists! Thanks. >=20 > Since I utilise a MSI Radeon R4670/512 RV730-based graphics card, I'im=20 > incapable of using either Support for this chip is still developing. Accellerated 3D is not available yet, and EXA might not be complete yet. > In all cases it doesn't matter wheter kernel module 'drm.ko' is loaded=20 > or not. You also need radeon.ko and agp.ko for accelleration. As far as I can tell, agp.ko is used for memory management for the card/driver and is necessary e= ven if your card is PCI-E. > Driver 'radeonhd' (xf86-video-radeonhd-1.2.5_2) works, but without=20 > 'options EXA' and without 'options DRI'. It is bumpy, but shows a=20 > 1920x1200 pixel screen in full colours. DRI for R7xx isn't there yet. If you want to test a more recent radeonhd driver than the one in ports, you might have to use the drm and radeon modules from the Xorg git repository as well.=20 =20 > I'm a little bit confused, since the ATi-RV730LE chipset is supposed to= =20 > be supported. I run another box, an older nVidia CK804-based Athlon3500+= =20 > box equipted with a MSI R4830/512 graphics card. That is an RV770, not a RV730. The Xorg developers are working on the drivers for the R7xx series. Full documentation wasn't available until a couple of months ago IIRC, so some patience is required. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkr4TnoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUP8wCfUfkNUOfvWZvgoAPRR91Iwia5 6UkAnjKL549rv/MozWDOb40Ta8FSw85i =R9Z6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 17:26:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B5A1065766 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00F48FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2220121pwj.3 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:26:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=rTm9/VxH3XxcyfBIrz1azoTupf0gcP6l9BTqLK3Fx9A=; b=rUYilL2Tn4ai8GLOvJp11vrzuROzhpwSN1TKdT2GBa9MidVkp5f/JXh/Wfi6/vWT7T SzP6s5ASYWFkZyx/0LCez3tLPxuXS/RGtyRFliegp0jdBMjWSK425WHGBw6k6N7zEcdf HUjoYNhSw8n9E2XsBtrGBo91GuyaalhiaukzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=P8sIti17hTGcP0g298Ao30lFsMk/VqvI0y4gS6f5fHxhgmBEJM/j8yRZOb8N7rRz2J +E7omdf1PiuHM9wEllON3k2QxL3aAzhPCpDzckOOIHwI9wjkcvaIpFFw8vI3GVZmnHv5 IAYt4geYqrR4CYXrRsLBpnLkT2wtZOQSTnM38= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.101.18 with SMTP id d18mr14081957wam.191.1257787583258; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:26:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091109004106.GI54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <20091109004106.GI54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:26:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Roman Neuhauser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8.0-RC2 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:26:27 -0000 > > my wlan0 is created for wpi0 (I start the wifi with > /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant onestart wlan0): > > wlans_wpi0=wlan0 > ifconfig_wlan0="NOAUTO DHCP WPA" > > what's in your rc.conf? > wlans_wpi0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP WPA" do I really need to put wlan0 in quotes ? cud that be the problem ? will try now removing them > > > How can i install all files under /etc from the source ? > > cd /usr/src && mergemaster -i > thanks, i was thinking my /etc was fu*ked From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 17:28:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E8106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sven@hazejager.nl) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D118FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so2902287yxe.3 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:28:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.18.20 with SMTP id v20mr6688880ani.2.1257787679362; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:27:59 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [83.160.136.100] In-Reply-To: <44y6mftzch.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <8ffccde70911081027m19784be4ve4e33f150a9caa5b@mail.gmail.com> <44y6mftzch.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <8ffccde70911090927uffa842ewabb50d8826027d3a@mail.gmail.com> From: Sven Hazejager To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: 7.2-p4 serial console not showing kernel messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:28:12 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 17:52, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Checking the obvious: syslog.conf is configured to send the messages to > the console? Haven't touched syslog.conf but this all happens before syslog is even starting. The problem is that the console is VGA, even though I have "console=comconsole" AND boot.config containing "-h" AND sio.0.flags 0x30. Has anyone actually gotten a serial console to work with FreeBSD 7.2-release? I'm having the same problems with 7-STABLE. Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 17:46:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4721065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D475E8FC1F for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so2197823pzk.7 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:46:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ct2Yib2+pDFhMOswhHr+IirEIK2WZB4KsGdqnkokI7Q=; b=eVB6JlAfcYSTCuJNwLEH1QZiUyEz71szM7m1BCZIIxyPc4TtHxMKZ0bIydPyxRqkL8 aWYl0IXtfp/XGHMm7C+VC8bBbFI5sxmzqCJ5YGe4ioK7oaVMPMHXZcN5bIBUCqa784fW 9Hib9Qr9hP/dFZCyiIxSolCdbKSweo2IDX7DM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=DTnHLwdHSER7JMyi7c5PxwJqW38PvEW62pxtIXbFbab/7b15Mw3/YObWJ6PrHGnCAm NZV4xfWe6eE3H/8X7osmjaie3RX+K4KhFTl5hEYaMt9UJb6RMAMfv8JbAsFmXXPCkJYn WDx5UNEQyUYLEIhnP7x+WKB9/nOgqIYFSt4qg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.66.24 with SMTP id t24mr14206764wak.39.1257788766642; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:46:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <07c4f4ba46c2c97a1092fe2cc108f375@ringofsaturn.com> References: <07c4f4ba46c2c97a1092fe2cc108f375@ringofsaturn.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:46:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Rusty Nejdl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] FreeBSD-8.0-RC2 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:46:08 -0000 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Rusty Nejdl wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:33:00 +0530, Masoom Shaikh > wrote: > > Hello, > > Last Saturday I installed 8.0-RC2 from source by compiling on 7.1 > installation. building and installing was smooth as always has been. Then I > pkg_add'ed xorg and KDE4, this was painless too. I am very disappointed with > my experience > > problem # 1 > The problem is KDE4 is not able to display anti aliased fonts. I have made > the required changes to make it work, of course, in System Settings -> > Appearance -> Fonts > Hinting -> Full, and there is is one more option, the name i cannot recall > ATM, I have set it to RGB. DPI to 96......this is has worked for all > combination of installs I have used so far, viz KDE3 on FreeBSD-6.x to > KDE4.1.x on FreeBSD-7.x and KDE4.2 on FreeBSD-8.0RC1 > > problem # 2 > I observed that both FreeBSD8.0-RC1 and FreeBSD8.0-RC2, simply freeze due > to no reason. The pain is I don't get a core dump. When it freezes the only > option is to hard boot by reseting the power. This might need more > information to guess the cause. I will give basic info. This is Dell > Inspiron 1525 Laptop, with Intel Core2. My suspect mostly goes to wpi > driver, no proof, just my gut feeling. > > problem # 3 > starting with 8.0 wpi driver no longer is the interface, wlanX is to be > created. this is not news, but every time I manually create the wlan0 > interface and spawn wpa_supplicant. This shuould be automatic, as I have > followed the guidelines of rc.conf(5). I can provide output of > rc_debug="YES" if someone is willing. How can i install all files under /etc > from the source ? > > Masoom Shaikh > > Regarding #2, I suggest disabling ACPI. I also had system freezes > happen on my computer until I did this but this has always been an ongoing > issue with my system and I lose nothing by turning it off. > > Sincerely, > Rusty Nejdl > http://networking.ringofsaturn.com > how do we disable acpi ? is it hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot ? if it is I guess I shud set it to 1 in loader.conf, it still remains 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 18:08:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D8B1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F858FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26609 invoked by uid 399); 9 Nov 2009 18:08:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 9 Nov 2009 18:08:44 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4AF85AAB.2050305@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:08:43 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "b. f." References: <4AF7CBE1.70704@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:08:45 -0000 b. f. wrote: > 1) +IGNOREME files only work with installed ports (just because the > package database is naturally associated with installed ports doesn't > mean that someone won't create an +IGNOREME for one that isn't > installed), and > 2) when trying to prevent the build or installation of a port that is > not currently installed, the exclusion glob will be compared with the > port directory, rather than the PKGNAME, as is done for installed > packages. I've updated my working copy of the man page with these suggestions, thanks! > And with regard to the selection of exclusion > globs, we should note that a glob that matches too many ports may be > as problematic as one that matches too few. But, of course. :) Regexp creation is both one of the rites of passage for all system administrators and a never-ending journey. If the -x or other glob option is not suitable there are always other options. Doug -- Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover! http://SupersetSolutions.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 18:18:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEB71065676 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com) Received: from tethys.ringofsaturn.com (tethys.ringofsaturn.com [71.252.219.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41218FC1E for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ASSP.nospam (tethys.ringofsaturn.com [71.252.219.43]) (authenticated bits=0) by tethys.ringofsaturn.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9IIctn076293; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:18:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com) Received: from tethys.ringofsaturn.com ([71.252.219.43] helo=tethys.ringofsaturn.com) with IPv4:25 by ASSP.nospam; 9 Nov 2009 12:18:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:18:38 -0600 From: Rusty Nejdl To: Masoom Shaikh In-Reply-To: References: <07c4f4ba46c2c97a1092fe2cc108f375@ringofsaturn.com> Message-ID: <4ead54d2413c6d18bf7bcc4c00d21d5b@ringofsaturn.com> X-Sender: rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-trunk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kde-freebsd@kde.org, "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] FreeBSD-8.0-RC2 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:18:40 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:46:06 +0000, Masoom Shaikh wrote: On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Rusty Nejdl wrote: On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:33:00 +0530, Masoom Shaikh wrote: Hello, Last Saturday I installed 8.0-RC2 from source by compiling on 7.1 installation. building and installing was smooth as always has been. Then I pkg_add'ed xorg and KDE4, this was painless too. I am very disappointed with my experience problem # 1 The problem is KDE4 is not able to display anti aliased fonts. I have made the required changes to make it work, of course, in System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts Hinting -> Full, and there is is one more option, the name i cannot recall ATM, I have set it to RGB. DPI to 96......this is has worked for all combination of installs I have used so far, viz KDE3 on FreeBSD-6.x to KDE4.1.x on FreeBSD-7.x and KDE4.2 on FreeBSD-8.0RC1 problem # 2 I observed that both FreeBSD8.0-RC1 and FreeBSD8.0-RC2, simply freeze due to no reason. The pain is I don't get a core dump. When it freezes the only option is to hard boot by reseting the power. This might need more information to guess the cause. I will give basic info. This is Dell Inspiron 1525 Laptop, with Intel Core2. My suspect mostly goes to wpi driver, no proof, just my gut feeling. problem # 3 starting with 8.0 wpi driver no longer is the interface, wlanX is to be created. this is not news, but every time I manually create the wlan0 interface and spawn wpa_supplicant. This shuould be automatic, as I have followed the guidelines of rc.conf(5). I can provide output of rc_debug="YES" if someone is willing. How can i install all files under /etc from the source ? Masoom Shaikh Regarding #2, I suggest disabling ACPI. I also had system freezes happen on my computer until I did this but this has always been an ongoing issue with my system and I lose nothing by turning it off. Sincerely, Rusty Nejdl http://networking.ringofsaturn.com [3] how do we disable acpi ? is it hw.acpi.disable_on_reboot ? if it is I guess I shud set it to 1 in loader.conf, it still remains 0 You can disable APIC support with hint.apic.0.disabled="1" in loader.conf. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html Sincerely, Rusty Nejdl http://networking.ringofsaturn.com Links: ------ [1] mailto:rnejdl@ringofsaturn.com [2] mailto:masoom.shaikh@gmail.com [3] http://networking.ringofsaturn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 18:34:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAFB106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC0D8FC23 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA9IXPNx076215 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:33:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id g40QxsyApaEN for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:31:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9IUXuW076149 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:30:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:30:33 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:34:03 -0000 Greetings! I have a client who recently dropped static IP service in favor of a "cheaper" solution, so they're now on a DHCP network blocking port 25, etc. In order to continue to allow them to connect to an outbound SMTP box on the LAN, I've done this on their server: sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox I've got Sendmail listening there on 52525, and it works fine; the local clients are told to connect to "thisbox" port 24. The only issue is that I have to run it from a terminal session. When I tried to bg the process ("cmdstring &") it doesn't work, exactly. I've gotten an error message at times*, and at other times I apparently get "thisbox" listening on port 24 but it's not an SMTP daemon that's listening. I have a feeling it's cause I'm in csh, which is notorious for backgrounding issues. At any rate, what I'd like to do is have a script set up the connection, or write some daemon that would monitor the connection and fix it if it gets reset. At any rate, if I could get this SSH process to detach from a terminal, it'd be great. Any suggestions? Kevin Kinsey * I'm sorry, but I can't reproduce the error message this morning. IIRC, something to the effect of "I can't do nothing, give me a command please?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 18:56:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD085106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C788FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:56:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 217 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 16070254 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:56:33 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:56:33 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:56:30 -0600 Thread-Topic: Converting a bootable USB stick in to bootable CD-ROM Thread-Index: Acphbll5+nTYrOVQRBemo0fe/qSDqg== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F260@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Converting a bootable USB stick in to bootable CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:56:34 -0000 I have a FreeBSD image that I install on USB sticks to build new systems. W= hen the stick boots it automatically clones itself on the system's hard dri= ve, creating partitions and other configuration parameters that are program= med into the stick's cloning logic. I want to create a similar mechanism us= ing a bootable CD-ROM. The biggest difference in the process of course is t= hat the CD-ROM itself is read-only so clearly there needs to be an mfsroot = involved in the process. I looked at how the FreeBSD Live CD is setup and t= he loader.conf file has these lines: mfsroot_load=3D"YES" mfsroot_type=3D"mfs_root" mfsroot_name=3D"/boot/mfsroot" along with the file /boot/mfsroot.gz and no /etc/fstab. I copied this into = my BSD image and duplicated the mfsroot settings in my loader.conf. I use the command below to create the iso file from the BSD image I've prep= ared. mkisofs -R -no-emul-boot -o /tmp/bsd.iso -b boot/cdboot /bsd When this iso is copied to a CD, it does boot. However, it doesn't seem to = be picking up the mfsroot config and complains that the system is running f= rom on a read-only file system. What step am I missing? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 19:04:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD14106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f173.google.com (mail-vw0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131118FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3so995266vws.3 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:04:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lo4OLC2cY/yn4Va4AlYsXyrbaznM2ozUsJlTH0eQiHk=; b=O6OkiIB3zj3BAcCEYeMRKJziIca5xUGTI08fEo3EhGnp/VgEGgCIACBoXUcMnjksfE FSie9UgIz1kMbDRNiI7TpjmdPDo3ly8AXJqEgN/bBpd/ic9Zt7/tENyFKR+c1a8ISkYU fVDNa9q2z//SocEcnSFQ897QDA8qPaLxlFp+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WK4HxYVXfpoRaVP2+OeefCrepi0nkti50DXg5yE1xOEt8tLjmY0JEuyboPbxwqdyHM kweT+PLP8W44ugAMFPcHbHdi1YV0TfwiuMTqbmdcpFU/xj3uRWwZmG/Kq8y0vHvKuQCx jOUcDSIEQY4Sec3PmB//vgoDHSJwte73ZaNDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.125.40 with SMTP id w40mr3655544vcr.77.1257793470110; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:04:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:04:30 +0000 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: devel/py-gobject error when pkgdb -F --- FREEBSD 7.2 STABLE --- X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:04:31 -0000 Hi folks, I know that dealing with that cases is a pain in the neck! but can somebody point me to a reference or a how to even better? Cheers! 2009/11/8 Jeronimo Calvo : > Hi Folks, > > Running pkgdb -F Im getting the following error: > I tried reinstalling devel/py-gobject, but did not help. > All dependencies are linked to py25-gobject-2.16.1, so I can not > remove that package as well. > Can somebody give me a workaround?? > > > ===> py26-gobject-2.16.1 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/gio/modules/libgiofam.so - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if devel/py-gobject already installed > ===> An older version of devel/py-gobject is already installed > (py25-gobject-2.16.1) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of devel/py-gobject > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/py-gobject. > *** Error code 1 > > > > -- > () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions > -- () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 19:06:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7392106568F for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrien.fontaine@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393378FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1428962fga.13 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:06:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U2tgrmDpmBSo2WU6/CJuJlEt+WYMBvk1OD/H5dgnAyQ=; b=XNL+XAZwZL3eQ+5kB7siRrLudlxo5rKtTc3bqA03reZsHDbAZ1ra67Jwh6TmPyL++u 8QlduxBPuX3jYznqfZq69TtI8qilUpLqa/d/jobW8e7FkHl1jurG786XIZC4z3NsQuZ6 s4Hw0Y57rTdxfhr/i1avKU0aQ3xAJhNm/Cmsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aFJKueGCYz/+LCFtZh01OS08U/Ommh0Mi4p6KIzTv1OP4Ffz7PuClTXjQxc3/x71l7 nWFtLaHoCGBwPMuM3mBGFpmIP5x3VIx/lDhs5Qs9kUHeS0tCeuKR5C5Lng0MZECv1JGv BeqB1+NfqOJDRzYIqktgUWMU5MN/twh9mbX0c= Received: by 10.86.108.19 with SMTP id g19mr4697494fgc.16.1257792065934; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.11? (lns-bzn-49f-81-56-167-53.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.167.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm7417243fge.9.2009.11.09.10.41.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:41:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AF8623D.9070801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:41:01 +0100 From: adrienfirst User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:06:06 -0000 Kevin Kinsey a écrit : > Greetings! > > I have a client who recently dropped static IP service in > favor of a "cheaper" solution, so they're now on a DHCP network > blocking port 25, etc. > > In order to continue to allow them to connect to an outbound > SMTP box on the LAN, I've done this on their server: > > sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox > > I've got Sendmail listening there on 52525, and it works > fine; the local clients are told to connect to "thisbox" > port 24. The only issue is that I have to run it from > a terminal session. When I tried to bg the process ("cmdstring &") > it doesn't work, exactly. I've gotten an error message > at times*, and at other times I apparently get "thisbox" > listening on port 24 but it's not an SMTP daemon that's > listening. > > I have a feeling it's cause I'm in csh, which is notorious > for backgrounding issues. At any rate, what I'd > like to do is have a script set up the connection, or > write some daemon that would monitor the connection and > fix it if it gets reset. At any rate, if I could get this > SSH process to detach from a terminal, it'd be great. > > Any suggestions? > > Kevin Kinsey > > * I'm sorry, but I can't reproduce the error message > this morning. IIRC, something to the effect of > "I can't do nothing, give me a command please?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Try screen ( /usr/ports/sysutils/screen ) screen -S to run the session Ctrl-a Ctrl-z to get out of this session and let it run in background screen -r to return in this session. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 19:18:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A43A1065676 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from collaborativefusion.com (mx01.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BB18FC21 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by mx01 (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) with SMTP; 9 Nov 2009 13:50:30 -0500 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, User Questions In-Reply-To: <4AF839E5.10303@comcast.net> References: <4AF839E5.10303@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:50:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1257792652.20787.372.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Steve Polyack Subject: Re: mfi(4) lockups and the adapter event log X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:18:57 -0000 > with linux-megacli showed TONS of messages. Trying to clear them using > linux-megacli seemed to cause a similar lockup, filled with command > timeouts, but no fatal firmware error. Also, does anyone know if the mfiutil(8) util in RELENG_8 has the ability to purge the event log? Man page 'clear' command nukes the volume configuration >:} We don't have RELENG_8 on a PowerEdge system yet. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 19:36:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118DA1065694 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA408FC21 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so2262884pzk.7 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:36:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kzm2Kq5jZwunO2XjnfA7PRq86z44NE1vlbFtxYgLpIs=; b=cflZFDYEm1a162WFO1gI6y7aLXcmEr07GKyQUEHCClpVOE4UQcvmW5bMQQDbe0gdhS U2X9ZESYtHV8lJbh8sIbxaEfZlVxPn2IowYjZjKGhEqTZYGjZ8A2v6K1IzMUGiDaGJ0F vXlwKB3yJHhsYoBPC/lxkz92C8L/aHZPWNZSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QLmRyNMitOkSk3Fgfrh831cZZzf8Z9jWfRrKGOBxJYKrSzUHOegwyTsHazUBc0jpit 8vVKZEjJa1vLuy8GSC+sHuqZRMSbnu5lVGKRGsRmMD6gDBlQsAYIFht2vKj0uCL9sUTG PmiIg9F42RpUzontaSL8sOOngOXro6BKClKj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.137.2 with SMTP id p2mr808527wfn.136.1257795411360; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:36:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> References: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:36:51 -0800 Message-ID: From: patrick To: Kevin Kinsey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:36:52 -0000 Check out /usr/ports/security/autossh autossh is a program to start a copy of ssh and monitor it, restarting it as necessary should it die or stop passing traffic. The original idea and the mechanism were from rstunnel (Reliable SSH Tunnel). With this version the method changes: autossh uses ssh to construct a loop of ssh forwardings (one from local to remote, one from remote to local), and then sends test data that it expects to get back. (The idea is thanks to Terrence Martin.) WWW: http://www.harding.motd.ca/autossh/ Patrick On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Greetings! > > I have a client who recently dropped static IP service in > favor of a "cheaper" solution, so they're now on a DHCP network > blocking port 25, etc. > > In order to continue to allow them to connect to an outbound > SMTP box on the LAN, I've done this on their server: > > sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox > > I've got Sendmail listening there on 52525, and it works > fine; the local clients are told to connect to "thisbox" > port 24. =A0The only issue is that I have to run it from > a terminal session. =A0When I tried to bg the process ("cmdstring &") > it doesn't work, exactly. =A0I've gotten an error message > at times*, and at other times I apparently get "thisbox" > listening on port 24 but it's not an SMTP daemon that's > listening. > > I have a feeling it's cause I'm in csh, which is notorious > for backgrounding issues. =A0 =A0At any rate, what I'd > like to do is have a script set up the connection, or > write some daemon that would monitor the connection and > fix it if it gets reset. =A0At any rate, if I could get this > SSH process to detach from a terminal, it'd be great. > > Any suggestions? > > Kevin Kinsey > > * I'm sorry, but I can't reproduce the error message > this morning. =A0IIRC, something to the effect of > "I can't do nothing, give me a command please?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 19:45:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129A5106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:45:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5108FC1E for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.135] (helo=smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7aAz-0006xd-Kp; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:45:21 +0100 Received: from [84.25.72.219] (helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7aAy-0005Xx-NU; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:45:20 +0100 Received: from mbp.egypt.nl (mbp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.33]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8A939847; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:45:18 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:45:18 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8E0BC73D-5A7E-4AA7-A07B-A0F9959D5F3A@boosten.org> References: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> To: patrick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1N7aAy-0005Xx-NU X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.6, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -2.60, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:45:24 -0000 On 9 nov 2009, at 20:36, patrick wrote: > Check out /usr/ports/security/autossh > > autossh is a program to start a copy of ssh and monitor it, restarting > it as necessary should it die or stop passing traffic. > > The original idea and the mechanism were from rstunnel (Reliable SSH > Tunnel). With this version the method changes: autossh uses ssh to > construct a loop of ssh forwardings (one from local to remote, one > from remote to local), and then sends test data that it expects to > get back. (The idea is thanks to Terrence Martin.) > > WWW: http://www.harding.motd.ca/autossh/ > You don't need additional software for that: you can easily spawn a ssh session from ttys, which re-establishes itself when it fails: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-mysql-connection-through-ssl-tunnel-p20077382.html -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 20:00:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB580106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2EE8FC08 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2315097pwj.3 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:00:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QywmAVKzWzxU/SmgyXDYzIX91gA+4c3fY677Q6RPFVk=; b=tKtRMcgUR4NW+4MCWioNMeeXc82rRd7sh4KbfeK8Mkn5X3EYECNIf8izjK9t+Ohjva rWmvuxQckzpXmtsfXmF0JJ3RNhUWbcE4sJRhANy0uCYfGyvtv4NBTdUvv2cH7ASGzqJw M4akOgUi+ThYKG1csMTvtG743jmI0sxcqJklY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=sHupJvT/Z4fPJ68Z4r64n1qZAliuNqjRRlTwEYRxng/xP0LijzuDaUs/WSrurdbbk0 FNxd2BDvtV2ZJ05rCZd8/+uwUN5mjDPlPee3rBgEOzBuokrjYj5jOun+gfRQdWvy9A5A rR2/0jZkfpLgl16pqxGvI4iw7BWW8ciWwsJ+s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.102.18 with SMTP id e18mr14401156wam.174.1257796799770; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:59:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8ffccde70911090927uffa842ewabb50d8826027d3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ffccde70911081027m19784be4ve4e33f150a9caa5b@mail.gmail.com> <44y6mftzch.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <8ffccde70911090927uffa842ewabb50d8826027d3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:59:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Sven Hazejager Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2-p4 serial console not showing kernel messages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:00:01 -0000 On 11/9/09, Sven Hazejager wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 17:52, Lowell Gilbert > wrote: >> Checking the obvious: syslog.conf is configured to send the messages to >> the console? > > Haven't touched syslog.conf but this all happens before syslog is even > starting. The problem is that the console is VGA, even though I have > "console=comconsole" AND boot.config containing "-h" AND sio.0.flags > 0x30. > > Has anyone actually gotten a serial console to work with FreeBSD > 7.2-release? I'm having the same problems with 7-STABLE. > FWIW, I do lots of serial consoles. Biggest issue I have is the boot.config options. Personally, the switches to "detect" (-P) and "switch" (-h) don't always seem to work (for me). If I have to see anything at the console, not only do I setup /boot/loader.conf but I will always use -D in /boot.config -- Dual setup. It pushes to both COM1 and VGA. Please try that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 20:14:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90E41065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sjk@ankeborg.nu) Received: from mail.three-dimensional.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:16d8:ffac:2::9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F878FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.three-dimensional.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CE8FB03A; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:14:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at three-dimensional.net Received: from mail.three-dimensional.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.three-dimensional.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 2QZguLtCAe+v; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:14:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.20.3] (host-90-232-9-21.mobileonline.telia.com [90.232.9.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sjk@ankeborg.nu) by mail.three-dimensional.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 56120FB039; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:14:28 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1075.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Svante Kvarnstrom In-Reply-To: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:14:21 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> To: Kevin Kinsey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1075.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:14:42 -0000 Hello Have you tried -f (for background) and -N for "Do not execute a remote =20= command"? See man 1 ssh for more details. Svante On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Greetings! > > I have a client who recently dropped static IP service in > favor of a "cheaper" solution, so they're now on a DHCP network > blocking port 25, etc. > > In order to continue to allow them to connect to an outbound > SMTP box on the LAN, I've done this on their server: > > sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox > > I've got Sendmail listening there on 52525, and it works > fine; the local clients are told to connect to "thisbox" > port 24. The only issue is that I have to run it from > a terminal session. When I tried to bg the process ("cmdstring &") > it doesn't work, exactly. I've gotten an error message > at times*, and at other times I apparently get "thisbox" > listening on port 24 but it's not an SMTP daemon that's > listening. > > I have a feeling it's cause I'm in csh, which is notorious > for backgrounding issues. At any rate, what I'd > like to do is have a script set up the connection, or > write some daemon that would monitor the connection and > fix it if it gets reset. At any rate, if I could get this > SSH process to detach from a terminal, it'd be great. > > Any suggestions? > > Kevin Kinsey > > * I'm sorry, but I can't reproduce the error message > this morning. IIRC, something to the effect of > "I can't do nothing, give me a command please?" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " Best wishes, Svante J. Kvarnstr=F6m http://sjk.ankeborg.nu/ Mob.: +46 702 38 34 00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 20:26:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4F11065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A1A8FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so792996ewy.43 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:26:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jABKjsc001xIj9GlnQPdUGPr58RsxsFwHQCk5TsCeas=; b=tb02LHWV7eFTvZy9sbYnVaKU2DUjsJPRA2B96VwaRWvOvjRx7a1IJ3BdJGofIVWYUM pdcyuelNE3OVyc8QL1+GB9Bm0lcwfgpUvq3PFYf5GHIJIATgVUu9tdhUprlacNnC81RT Xx4QjQKljKmxVtDwqgAmudPsYs7rc/BzVREDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=CStk5/iEfIYyOfrZiINtUzZVIrz7ux5KLn6pWyg4RkrmBo/EpxGxDanWdgnFWrQCk3 3vorYF64tOpthXsDl2G5TwokKwbBgwbRdBxBVV3x3IbFkw0pBE4dHyHISQz00VxMHjBM iHT8rBF51P7NZPtFIz0jUwAWHacGn5/tdihKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.146 with SMTP id c18mr93053wef.84.1257798375730; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:26:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911091037.nA9Abq9b021278@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200911091037.nA9Abq9b021278@mp.cs.niu.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Scott Bennett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: maho@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:26:18 -0000 On 11/9/09, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:29 -0800 Doug Barton > wrote: ... > Anyway, the math/py-numpy port now proceeds to build without bothering > with math/atlas. It quickly goes astray when it doesn't recognize that any > of gfortran4[345] has been installed--I guess there no longer is a FORTRAN > compiler included in the base system--and instead tries to use lang/g95, > which has also been installed. Of course, this won't work because the ATLAS > library needs to have been compiled with the same compiler as the programs > that use it. > > ===> Configuring for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 > Running from numpy source directory. > [39mF2PY Version 2 [0m > [39mblas_opt_info: [0m > [39mblas_mkl_info: [0m > [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib [0m > [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib [0m > [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../ [0m > [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m > [39m [0m > [39matlas_blas_threads_info: [0m > [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m > [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m > [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m > [39m FOUND: [0m > [39m libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r'] [0m > [39m library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib'] [0m > [39m language = c [0m > [39m include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include'] [0m > [39m [0m > /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/command/config.py:361: > DeprecationWarning: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Usage of get_output is deprecated: please do not > use it anymore, and avoid configuration checks > involving running executable on the target machine. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > DeprecationWarning) > [39mcustomize GnuFCompiler [0m > [32mFound executable /usr/local/bin/gfortran44 [0m > [31mgnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found [0m > [31mgnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found [0m > [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler [0m > [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler [0m > [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler using config [0m > compiling '_configtest.c': > > /* This file is generated from numpy/distutils/system_info.py */ > void ATL_buildinfo(void); > int main(void) { > ATL_buildinfo(); > return 0; > } > [39mC compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 > -fPIC > [0m > [39mcompile options: '-c' [0m > [39mgcc44: _configtest.c [0m > [39mgcc44 _configtest.o -L/usr/local/lib -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r > -latlas_r -o _configtest [0m > /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) > is referenced by DSO > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) > is referenced by DSO > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > [39mfailure. [0m > [39mremoving: _configtest.c _configtest.o [0m > [39mStatus: 255 [0m > [39mOutput: [0m > [39m FOUND: [0m > [39m libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r'] [0m > [39m library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib'] [0m > [39m language = c [0m > [39m define_macros = [('NO_ATLAS_INFO', 2)] [0m > [39m include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include'] [0m > [39m [0m > [39mlapack_opt_info: [0m > [39mlapack_mkl_info: [0m > [39mmkl_info: [0m > [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib [0m > [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib [0m > [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../ [0m > [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m > [39m [0m > [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m > [39m [0m > [39matlas_threads_info: [0m > [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m > [39m libraries lapack_atlas not found in /usr/local/lib [0m > [39mnumpy.distutils.system_info.atlas_threads_info [0m > [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m > /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/system_info.py:999: > UserWarning: > ********************************************************************* > Lapack library (from ATLAS) is probably incomplete: > size of /usr/local/lib/libalapack_r.so is 3832k (expected >4000k) > > Follow the instructions in the KNOWN PROBLEMS section of the file > numpy/INSTALL.txt. > ********************************************************************* > > warnings.warn(message) > > > The above sequence gets more or less repeated several more times, and > after much compiling, running of python26, and other activities, the > process runs aground as follows. > > > [39mcreating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft [0m > [39mcompile options: '-Inumpy/core/include > -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy > -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' [0m > [39mgcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.c [0m > [39mgcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack.c [0m > [39mcc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott > -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 > build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.o > build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack.o > -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -o > build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_lite.so [0m > [39mbuilding 'numpy.linalg.lapack_lite' extension [0m > [39mcompiling C sources [0m > [39mC compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 > -fPIC > [0m > [39mcreating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg [0m > [39mcompile options: '-DATLAS_INFO="\"3.9.11\"" -I/usr/local/include > -Inumpy/core/include > -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy > -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' [0m > [39mgcc44: numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.c [0m > [39mgcc44: numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.c [0m > [39mcc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott > -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 > build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o > build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o > -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r > -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o > build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so [0m > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran > error: Command "cc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe > -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 > build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o > build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o > -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r > -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o > build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so" failed > with exit status 1 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy. > > ===>>> make failed for math/py-numpy > ===>>> Aborting update > > I looked in /usr/local/lib and didn't spot libraries by name for > gfortran[345], so I assume they have either been renamed or included in > with the corresponding gcc libraries. What is the best way to proceed? > Will simply deleting the instances of "-lgfortran" do the job? Or do I > need to specify the library explicitly? > The port is broken WITH_ATLAS=yes on your system: it reverts to using the base system C compiler, cc, when it should be using gcc44. You trimmed off some relevant parts, so it is difficult to tell at a glance whether this is because something is wrong with your system, or with the port itself, although the port has a history of problems with this non-default option. If I have some time later, I may play with it, but at the moment, I don't have atlas installed. You should send a full build transcript to me and the math/py-numpy maintainer via private email. The libraries in question should be in /usr/local/lib/gcc44. When searching for registered shared libraries, it is easier to do something like: ldconfig -vr | grep -ie fortran and for static libraries or unregistered shared libraries, locate(1) and find(1) are your friends. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 20:37:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1066A1065670; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xcllnt@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13308FC12; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:05 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from macbook-pro.jnpr.net (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KSU00KQGZXIT800@asmtp028.mac.com>; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:36:56 -0800 (PST) From: Marcel Moolenaar In-reply-to: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:36:54 -0800 Message-id: <32916A26-60CF-457A-9F61-67DB295A4D9C@mac.com> References: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: "O. Hartmann" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:37:06 -0000 On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:51 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on > a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now > done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions > from a through h except b and c is now obsoleted. When dropping into > the installation process, I realised that the 8 partition boundary > is still present. sysinstall does not use gpart nor the kernel interface that GEOM_PART exposes. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 20:48:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEA1106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3438FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nA9KkXRn078876; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:46:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8WYdvwqZSvTh; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:46:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9KifgQ078844; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:45:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4AF87F39.7070403@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:44:41 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Svante Kvarnstrom References: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:48:03 -0000 Svante Kvarnstrom wrote: > Hello > > Have you tried -f (for background) and -N for "Do not execute a remote > command"? See man 1 ssh for more details. > > Svante Cheers for you! It was "-f" without "-N" that produced the error. I'm guessing I got down the manpage about as far as "-f" and didn't go any further. *beats head on desk* Thanks, Svante! For the archives: SMTP OVER SSH TUNNEL FREEBSD sudo ssh -f -N -L localname:24:remotename:52525 me@remotename When SMTP is listening on "remotename" port 52525. "sudo" is needed to open the tunnel on the "localname" side on port 24 (a privileged port). You could do this as "root" on the local side, but shouldn't connect *to* root on the remote computer. > On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > >> Greetings! >> >> >> sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox >> >> I've got Sendmail listening there on 52525, and it works >> fine; the local clients are told to connect to "thisbox" >> port 24. The only issue is that I have to run it from >> a terminal session. When I tried to bg the process ("cmdstring &") >> it doesn't work, exactly. I've gotten an error message >> at times*, and at other times I apparently get "thisbox" >> listening on port 24 but it's not an SMTP daemon that's >> listening. >> >> I have a feeling it's cause I'm in csh, which is notorious >> for backgrounding issues. At any rate, what I'd >> like to do is have a script set up the connection, or >> write some daemon that would monitor the connection and >> fix it if it gets reset. At any rate, if I could get this >> SSH process to detach from a terminal, it'd be great. >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> Kevin Kinsey >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 20:58:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B48106566B for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:58:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990DC8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 8464F4719CD for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:58:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0889D3866A7 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:58:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:58:16 +0100 Message-Id: <200911092158.AA2606170292@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Len Conrad wrote: > subsequent "make configure" simply uses the original menu choices with = no re-display of the menu to change the options make rmconfig ; make config --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8F605818C84293DD8C13C6E6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkr4hDYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy+eQCfWBNTK+tvXyXi69cAXUZxX8d2 pKQAn1OwlokXJDFpi4rjYetGE8InWqv0 =rhvq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8F605818C84293DD8C13C6E6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 21:08:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4541106566B; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7F8FC0A; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9L7tFg029305; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:07:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:07:55 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200911092107.nA9L7tHX029304@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: bf1783@googlemail.com Cc: maho@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:08:47 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:15 +0000 "b. f." wrote: >On 11/9/09, Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:29 -0800 Doug Barton >> wrote: > >... > >> Anyway, the math/py-numpy port now proceeds to build without bothering >> with math/atlas. It quickly goes astray when it doesn't recognize that any >> of gfortran4[345] has been installed--I guess there no longer is a FORTRAN >> compiler included in the base system--and instead tries to use lang/g95, >> which has also been installed. Of course, this won't work because the ATLAS >> library needs to have been compiled with the same compiler as the programs >> that use it. >> >> ===> Configuring for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 >> Running from numpy source directory. >> [39mF2PY Version 2 [0m >> [39mblas_opt_info: [0m >> [39mblas_mkl_info: [0m >> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib [0m >> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib [0m >> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in >> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../ [0m >> [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m >> [39m [0m >> [39matlas_blas_threads_info: [0m >> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >> [39m FOUND: [0m >> [39m libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r'] [0m >> [39m library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib'] [0m >> [39m language = c [0m >> [39m include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include'] [0m >> [39m [0m >> /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/command/config.py:361: >> DeprecationWarning: >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Usage of get_output is deprecated: please do not >> use it anymore, and avoid configuration checks >> involving running executable on the target machine. >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> DeprecationWarning) >> [39mcustomize GnuFCompiler [0m >> [32mFound executable /usr/local/bin/gfortran44 [0m >> [31mgnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found [0m >> [31mgnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found [0m >> [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler [0m >> [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler [0m >> [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler using config [0m >> compiling '_configtest.c': >> >> /* This file is generated from numpy/distutils/system_info.py */ >> void ATL_buildinfo(void); >> int main(void) { >> ATL_buildinfo(); >> return 0; >> } >> [39mC compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >> -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 >> -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >> -fPIC >> [0m >> [39mcompile options: '-c' [0m >> [39mgcc44: _configtest.c [0m >> [39mgcc44 _configtest.o -L/usr/local/lib -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r >> -latlas_r -o _configtest [0m >> /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in >> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) >> is referenced by DSO >> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in >> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) >> is referenced by DSO >> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> [39mfailure. [0m >> [39mremoving: _configtest.c _configtest.o [0m >> [39mStatus: 255 [0m >> [39mOutput: [0m >> [39m FOUND: [0m >> [39m libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r'] [0m >> [39m library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib'] [0m >> [39m language = c [0m >> [39m define_macros = [('NO_ATLAS_INFO', 2)] [0m >> [39m include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include'] [0m >> [39m [0m >> [39mlapack_opt_info: [0m >> [39mlapack_mkl_info: [0m >> [39mmkl_info: [0m >> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib [0m >> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib [0m >> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in >> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../ [0m >> [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m >> [39m [0m >> [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m >> [39m [0m >> [39matlas_threads_info: [0m >> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >> [39m libraries lapack_atlas not found in /usr/local/lib [0m >> [39mnumpy.distutils.system_info.atlas_threads_info [0m >> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >> /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/system_info.py:999: >> UserWarning: >> ********************************************************************* >> Lapack library (from ATLAS) is probably incomplete: >> size of /usr/local/lib/libalapack_r.so is 3832k (expected >4000k) >> >> Follow the instructions in the KNOWN PROBLEMS section of the file >> numpy/INSTALL.txt. >> ********************************************************************* >> >> warnings.warn(message) >> >> >> The above sequence gets more or less repeated several more times, and >> after much compiling, running of python26, and other activities, the >> process runs aground as follows. >> >> >> [39mcreating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft [0m >> [39mcompile options: '-Inumpy/core/include >> -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy >> -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' [0m >> [39mgcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.c [0m >> [39mgcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack.c [0m >> [39mcc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott >> -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.o >> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack.o >> -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -o >> build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_lite.so [0m >> [39mbuilding 'numpy.linalg.lapack_lite' extension [0m >> [39mcompiling C sources [0m >> [39mC compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >> -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 >> -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >> -fPIC >> [0m >> [39mcreating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg [0m >> [39mcompile options: '-DATLAS_INFO="\"3.9.11\"" -I/usr/local/include >> -Inumpy/core/include >> -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy >> -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' [0m >> [39mgcc44: numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.c [0m >> [39mgcc44: numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.c [0m >> [39mcc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott >> -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o >> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o >> -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r >> -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o >> build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so [0m >> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran >> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran >> error: Command "cc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >> -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o >> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o >> -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r >> -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o >> build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so" failed >> with exit status 1 >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy. >> >> ===>>> make failed for math/py-numpy >> ===>>> Aborting update >> >> I looked in /usr/local/lib and didn't spot libraries by name for >> gfortran[345], so I assume they have either been renamed or included in >> with the corresponding gcc libraries. What is the best way to proceed? >> Will simply deleting the instances of "-lgfortran" do the job? Or do I >> need to specify the library explicitly? >> > >The port is broken WITH_ATLAS=yes on your system: it reverts to using >the base system C compiler, cc, when it should be using gcc44. You >trimmed off some relevant parts, so it is difficult to tell at a >glance whether this is because something is wrong with your system, or >with the port itself, although the port has a history of problems >with this non-default option. If I have some time later, I may play >with it, but at the moment, I don't have atlas installed. You should Okay, but be advised that the ATLAS library takes around six hours to build on a 3.4 GHz Prescott with little else active on the machine at the time. (ATLAS should be built on a very quiet machine, so that its timing tests will be fairly accurate. The build is likely to die if several runs of a timing test yield a variance greater than what the build procedure wants.) >send a full build transcript to me and the math/py-numpy maintainer >via private email. Will do, but probably not till tonight sometime. > >The libraries in question should be in /usr/local/lib/gcc44. When >searching for registered shared libraries, it is easier to do >something like: > >ldconfig -vr | grep -ie fortran 1046:-lgfortran.3 => /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.so.3 1056:-lgfortran.3 => /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.so.3 1068:-lgfortran.3 => /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.so.3 > >and for static libraries or unregistered shared libraries, locate(1) >and find(1) are your friends. > Well, locate(1) *ought* to be, you're right. However, although it worked fine on FreeBSD 5, I've never succeeded in getting FreeBSD 6 or 7 to build the locate database properly. It would be nice, but I've already spent too many hours on too many occasions trying to track down the trouble, so I just use find(1). find(1) turns up the following. /usr/local/lib/gcc43/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.3.5/libgfortranbegin.la /usr/local/lib/gcc43/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.3.5/libgfortranbegin.a /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.so.3 /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.so /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.a /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgfortranbegin.la /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgfortranbegin.a /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.so.3 /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.so /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.a /usr/local/lib/gcc45/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.5.0/libgfortranbegin.la /usr/local/lib/gcc45/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.5.0/libgfortranbegin.a /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.so.3 /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.so /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.a I'll get the rest of the stuff off to you later tonight. Thank you very much for looking at all of this. I wonder if I'm the only person trying to install science/gnudatalanguage. There have been enough obstacles to getting that done that I have to wonder how the maintainer managed to test it. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 21:14:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC091065676 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7669F8FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A922BEB47AD; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE8B45327; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:13 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2q1M71gqu7H0; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-244-12.home.otenet.gr [94.64.244.12]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5343C45326; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nA9LECbf006639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nA9LEC0S006635; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:14:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: lconrad@Go2France.com References: <200911092158.AA2606170292@mail.Go2France.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:14:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200911092158.AA2606170292@mail.Go2France.com> (Len Conrad's message of "Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:58:16 +0100") Message-ID: <87ljif9za3.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to show "make configure" menu after initial make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:14:14 -0000 On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:58:16 +0100, "Len Conrad" wrote: > subsequent "make configure" simply uses the original menu choices with > no re-display of the menu to change the options There is a subtle but important difference between 'make config' and 'make configure' for ports: * 'make configure' runs any autoconf scripts included in the port. * 'make config', on the other hand, launches the port menu. So you can re-configure a port by typing 'make config'. This will load any options from the /var/db/ports/PORTNAME/options file, launch the menu you are looking for, and save the new options when you are done. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 21:27:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF29C1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9DB8FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 4A23EDE605B9F4F5; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:27:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4AF8892B.9050003@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:27:07 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4AF7490F.80703@onetel.com> <20091109000338.25765d02.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091109000338.25765d02.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: x11/lxpanel build fails - wrong linux base? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:27:09 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:41:19 +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> I have WITHOUT_ALSA=true in lxpanel's options and I have even changed >> the line in lxpanel/Makefile: >> >> eco# diff Makefile Makefile.original >> 31c31 >> < WITH_ALSA= off >> --- >>> WITH_ALSA= yes > > Maybe that's the reason. The symbol WITH_ALSA is defined. > It does not matter with which value it is defined, so even > WITH_ALSA=I_DONT_WANT_ALSA would be equivalent to WITH_ALSA=yes; > try removing the whole line in order to not define the symbol. > You're right of course and I should have known, thanks for the memory jogger. In fact I changed the line to WITHOUT_ALSA=true as per the lxpanel options file (I guess the 'true' can be any value :) Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 22:38:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B690106566C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfg@tristatelogic.com) Received: from outgoing.tristatelogic.com (segfault.tristatelogic.com [69.62.255.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8FE8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault-nmh-helo.tristatelogic.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by segfault.tristatelogic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1C0BDC3C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:19:40 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:19:40 -0800 Message-ID: <17331.1257805180@tristatelogic.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Subject: Trivial questions about CNTL-ALT-DEL and CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:38:46 -0000 I've just been installing 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 on a fresh/wiped system that I plan to use as my future "main" workstation. Anyway, I've already noticed a couple of things that seem to be different from prior release that I need to ask about, i.e.: 1) It appears that CNTL-ALT-DEL now causes a shutdown/reboot. (I don't know what release this new feature started in... I only just noticed it now.) Anyway, I'd like to know how I can disable this particular bit of functionality. How do I do that? 2) Prior versions of X (Xorg?) allowed CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE to cause an immediate shutdown of the X server, but now, that doesn't see to work anymore. How can I (re-)enable this functionality? Thanks in advance for any answers. Regards, rfg P.S. Please send replies to the list. Otherwise, I may never see them due to my draconian and haphazard local spam filtering. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 22:43:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4917D1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D668FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2408736pwj.3 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:43:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1OCH1DPmelsSgz2R8S9i31X0EWvElJMgLbfoSzUi9bI=; b=K9aECcJshDSwzv/rzB9+BJ1php5irPMefANFZg3oNds42BukeuOqujOl+vfKWLvv3o kUT6QXhUlsSKlSfpg9/HENVVwFisoAk9srb2GapPW07euqMw8L2LAqgko/edtG7PUyOm zSu194OyBlEAcqWF4XSl3sv/jJ6nSCZj9zm+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZVPuZQXfvfeS7bZW+28B29t3hzUwfFU4TyIwxeUbGqrgdF61CSVTbFez2MYYzm8seb NigYMyvmOl48eHllZdzI6CONFRQqkWn/8uZ2arlD6ZpcVW+To6z/bcF35EbHR4ZXgGgc xCfznmHXK86qdK+3WU7nch+zy4Akp+4peLYMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.2.38 with SMTP id 38mr1041028wab.64.1257806602782; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:43:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <17331.1257805180@tristatelogic.com> References: <17331.1257805180@tristatelogic.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:43:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trivial questions about CNTL-ALT-DEL and CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:43:23 -0000 On 11/9/09, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > I've just been installing 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 on a fresh/wiped system > that I plan to use as my future "main" workstation. > > Anyway, I've already noticed a couple of things that seem to be different > from prior release that I need to ask about, i.e.: > > 1) It appears that CNTL-ALT-DEL now causes a shutdown/reboot. (I don't > know what release this new feature started in... I only just noticed it > now.) Anyway, I'd like to know how I can disable this particular bit of > functionality. How do I do that? # sysctl -d hw.syscons.kbd_reboot hw.syscons.kbd_reboot: enable keyboard reboot > > 2) Prior versions of X (Xorg?) allowed CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE to cause an > immediate shutdown of the X server, but now, that doesn't see to work > anymore. How can I (re-)enable this functionality? Thanks to the new versions of xorg, they removed that functionality. A config file with "DontZap" equal to "off" re-enables it. Google for DontZap to find where to put it in the config. > > Thanks in advance for any answers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 22:48:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB471065693 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA788FC22 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4466801.home.otenet.gr [94.71.104.97]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nA9MmUuo023828 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:48:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4AF89C3E.3030407@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:48:30 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <17331.1257805180@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <17331.1257805180@tristatelogic.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Trivial questions about CNTL-ALT-DEL and CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:48:33 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I've just been installing 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 on a fresh/wiped system > that I plan to use as my future "main" workstation. > > Anyway, I've already noticed a couple of things that seem to be different > from prior release that I need to ask about, i.e.: > > 1) It appears that CNTL-ALT-DEL now causes a shutdown/reboot. (I don't > know what release this new feature started in... I only just noticed it > now.) Anyway, I'd like to know how I can disable this particular bit of > functionality. How do I do that? > Add: hw.syscons.kbd_reboot=0 to /etc/sysctl.conf. Activate immediately by executing sysctl hw.syscons.kbd_reboot=0 > 2) Prior versions of X (Xorg?) allowed CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE to cause an > immediate shutdown of the X server, but now, that doesn't see to work > anymore. How can I (re-)enable this functionality? > > Welcome to the new Xorg and HAL... Please read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html There is a note that describes how to re-enable CTRL+ALT+BKSP functionality. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 9 22:56:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10CB1065676 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E65B8FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so940140ewy.43 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:56:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y8aCAa3t4pmsE7Un3IPPbu22QqEefJGdUWMFB5TvTfM=; b=bXkkvHNGsoJbGh9OZHq/R0oGNQm9Gc/dXvnNae8pxlxb34HOg54kSeLSko0EUtfbvQ 5X1bfcok3AZjYzv+VSmDz5AIN8TdRSi74LJR/gW5xGl40j+6Wiv03tuTpbAWOopX/Kaj pp5X9Yvmp3qjG2HCQI6aYKaVm6eu3raI7tYVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HeqSOO5szDDKmWvo3u4PSC4gK9FyVUBw7+Eelh6fGaZ3HmJbD34fcVeruLNV1L5bxY 7KwdW7O2qdgDi4SxhVYTIlqbBtfcMofNo4iuhWfm+Cu43revfT3ft78GBiJ/f9+Fg3Bn i8fzJ6IktrKFcciIFNkoW4pZ+a/VI/Yl/XLq0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.139 with SMTP id a11mr404209wef.50.1257807377106; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:56:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> References: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> From: APseudoUtopia Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:55:57 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280911091455u7b82dd83qa6813414754b867c@mail.gmail.com> To: Troels Kofoed Jacobsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracking commit messages from cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:56:18 -0000 On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Troels Kofoed Jacobsen wrote: > Hi all > > With pkg_version I can easily see which installed ports has newer > versions available, but what I miss is a way to see what has changed. > The reason for this is that commit messages often say that only the > pkg-plist has changed or something that does not make me want to update. > > Right now I'm reading the commit messages from the cvs web frontend, but > it would be awesome with a program that could say: > gd-2.0.35_1,1 < =C2=A0 needs updating (index has 2.0.35_2,1) > Commit messages between the versions: > blah blah blah > blah ... ... > ... > > I know freshports exist, but I would rather not have to open a web > browser. > > Does such a program exist or do I have to write my own. In the latter > case can anyone point me to an easy way to get raw-text versions of > commit messages without having to track the whole tree. Does freshports > e.g. have an api -- it has all the necessary information, just not > available in a suitable form (to my knowledge) > > Best regards > Troels Kofoed Jacobsen I asked this question some time ago and never got a response. I currently just use a browser and visit www.freebsd.org/ports/ and read the commit log there. So far, I haven't found any other alternative. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 00:12:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D2B106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3378FC25 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [10.47.0.240]) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nAA0Bo9K081150 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:11:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@aristotle.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id nAA0BoPq081149 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:11:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:11:50 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20091110001146.GA81076@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: OT:: chapter cut-down.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:12:42 -0000 sorry for this completely OT post guys but by editor gave me what-for about Chapter one, so i took an exacto knife to cut and cut a thousand words. same place. http://journey.thought.org will jump you directly to the begin ing. i'd be much obliged for feedback from those you commented on my original 7 chapters. Does this launch faster? i'm asking you before i should it to my editor because i trust your judgement. obligator on-topic post: i cannot get keyboard to the new dell. i would have to pull loose everything, unscrew a plug. foo. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 01:39:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA1F106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B7B8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nAA1d9qt006469 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:09 -0500 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id nAA1d9oE006468; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:39:09 -0500 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id BC5BDBE93; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:29 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20091109083730.GA1976@current.Sisis.de> (message from Matthias Apitz on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:37:30 +0100) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: <20091105131339.GA3804@current.Sisis.de> <20091109013816.5B1A5BE92@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20091109083730.GA1976@current.Sisis.de> Message-Id: <20091110013730.BC5BDBE93@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:37:29 -0500 (EST) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: splitting Mbox file thread-sorted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:39:12 -0000 >> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:37:30 +0100, >> Matthias Apitz said: M> Thanks for the pointer to [Mail::Thread]; do you know if there is some M> implementation of this into a cmdline tool for splitting a Mbox based on M> this Perl methods? Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a decent example for either the Perl or Python implementation of JZ's threading method. I'm going to be archiving a lot of mail in the near future, so I'll try something really slimy and see if it works: install Mailman, import some mbox files, and see if I can use pipermail to generate the threading information I need. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company If men ruled the world #4: Instead of beer belly, you'd get "beer biceps." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 01:42:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECE0106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366D68FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648EE4A3086D; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:41:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:41:29 -0800 From: Jason To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20091110014128.GC239@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20091105131339.GA3804@current.Sisis.de> <20091109013816.5B1A5BE92@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20091109083730.GA1976@current.Sisis.de> <20091110013730.BC5BDBE93@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091110013730.BC5BDBE93@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p4 X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: splitting Mbox file thread-sorted X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:42:31 -0000 This may be helpful. I used this many years ago, and it worked great. http://mboxgrep.sourceforge.net/ mail/mboxgrep -jgh On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:37:29PM -0500, Karl Vogel thus spake: >>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:37:30 +0100, >>> Matthias Apitz said: > >M> Thanks for the pointer to [Mail::Thread]; do you know if there is some >M> implementation of this into a cmdline tool for splitting a Mbox based on >M> this Perl methods? > > Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a decent example for either > the Perl or Python implementation of JZ's threading method. > > I'm going to be archiving a lot of mail in the near future, so I'll try > something really slimy and see if it works: install Mailman, import some > mbox files, and see if I can use pipermail to generate the threading > information I need. > >-- >Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company >If men ruled the world #4: Instead of beer belly, you'd get "beer biceps." >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 04:01:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358611065679 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@mixriot.com) Received: from mail.mixriot.com (ns364730.ovh.net [91.121.210.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD938FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.mixriot.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id 208AD1031; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:39:16 +0000 (UTC) To: questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: "MIXRIOT" From: "MIXRIOT" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="cf3205786be3e5448ec9f162980f766a" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20091110033916.208AD1031@mail.mixriot.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:39:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: MIXRIOT NEWS - NOV 9TH, 2009 - SASHA CLASSIC ESSENTIAL MIX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:01:05 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --cf3205786be3e5448ec9f162980f766a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIXRIOT NEWS - NOV 9TH, 2009 SASHA CLASSIC ESSENTIAL MIX [http://www.mixriot.com/content/sasha-classic-em-2009-10-31] join MIXRIOT Please paste this link into your browser to manage subscriptions for questions@freebsd.org: http://www.mixriot.com/mailout/subscriptions/878068/1257824356/6f316dcdfe5b295b26aff5026666c08b --cf3205786be3e5448ec9f162980f766a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 06:38:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F187B106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (mx1.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6828FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EAF61C5A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:43:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (arek.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.233]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6550761C59 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:43:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:38:38 +0100 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; pl; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4AF90A6E.3040907@wup-katowice.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.36/RELEASE, bases: 20091110 #3185127, check: 20091110 clean Subject: php4-gd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:38:43 -0000 Hello, I have on some web servers php4-gd port installed and I am totally confused. Portaudit says Affected package: php4-gd-4.4.9 Type of problem: gd -- '_gdGetColors' remote buffer overflow vulnerability. Reference: On this site is info about: 5.2.11 and 5.3.0 On Securityfocus is info also about 4.4.9 but on cve.mitre.org is not. Any idea where is the true? Are my servers with php4-gd are secure or not? Regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski arek (at) wup-katowice (dot) pl "UNIX allows me to work smarter, not harder." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 06:59:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB1F1065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FB68FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA6xPvZ084109; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:59:26 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk nAA6xPvZ084109 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1257836366; bh=vnBFSFvlcAWv5U87c29C5XD8w7mB/Tsm92k8u7h2v8c=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4AF90F44.1070509@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2010=20Nov=202009=2006:59:16=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.23=20(X11/20090823)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20arek@wup-katowice.pl|CC:=20freebsd-questions@free bsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20php4-gd|References:=20<4AF90A6E.3040907@w up-katowice.pl>|In-Reply-To:=20<4AF90A6E.3040907@wup-katowice.pl>| X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2728D1844DAD40C2477CC6 03"; b=I/iaOTHAKYLuGmLOeYNqrz0C+0yNS5qnGQz2/DGOA/MW+mcx3YUFfUajRNGkvM9lA g2ttlKiYg6Ek2MaV9GTyYT6Nxl8sTZbYAB5qd1NJrb13ofJ8OSS8U9HI3B2OUEYl5i 0GIY/Ap0U3ZfvkJKUl4eePNg/sV9P1yooyjuxvxY= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4AF90F44.1070509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:59:16 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090823) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arek@wup-katowice.pl References: <4AF90A6E.3040907@wup-katowice.pl> In-Reply-To: <4AF90A6E.3040907@wup-katowice.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2728D1844DAD40C2477CC603" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php4-gd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:59:31 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2728D1844DAD40C2477CC603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Arek Czereszewski wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have on some web servers php4-gd port installed > and I am totally confused. > Portaudit says >=20 > Affected package: php4-gd-4.4.9 > Type of problem: gd -- '_gdGetColors' remote buffer overflow > vulnerability. > Reference:=20 > >=20 > On this site is info about: 5.2.11 and 5.3.0 >=20 > On Securityfocus is info also about 4.4.9 > but on cve.mitre.org is not. >=20 > Any idea where is the true? > Are my servers with php4-gd are secure or not? This is a bug in the underlying gd library rather than in PHP itself. The= re are fixes to two related ports: if you've updated graphics/gd to the la= test version (gd-2.0.35_2,1), and built the latest port revision of the php5-g= d module (which is php5-gd-5.2.11_2) then those should have been secured.= However, the PHP4 version of the gd module is still at version=20 php4-gd-4.4.9, and doesn't seem to have been patched -- there is no patch= for CVE-2009-3546 in the php4 sources -- so it seems you are still vulner= able when using PHP4. This is to be expected: the PHP project is deprecating = PHP4 and putting all their effort in to developing PHP5 instead. Patches may be forthcoming eventually, but who knows when? Basically, if you're running PHP4 on a public site then you should be mak= ing plans to upgrade to PHP5 ASAP.=20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2728D1844DAD40C2477CC603 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkr5D00ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxwPQCfQN+LrM/CVGnq1zsSKR2wqfxp 4w4AoIY0X9T5EofK/LsQy8StBad73QwH =0RIU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2728D1844DAD40C2477CC603-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 07:13:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A3B106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maho.nakata@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434568FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so3443194ywh.3 for ; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:13:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:message-id:to:cc :subject:from:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jGgivHuMPIX7d9gST18/zaEeu+FfyWFSwf0XlLFcAfo=; b=eJOWDPYLdsJnhJdBsWwc5AL74OytCWjyIIDPIB5o1/WyS1xpuYyftWa+OriojlWJRy biOFwUeVSj9o3Vc613BKA/gR8DPljvBZO56O350Di3RCmFD8zMtIpHEMRT7P9Tgj2bXN r4gxdjZ05hJhThsTmTmnV7s5ZKCx8AGgVInwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:message-id:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S5gkzmQTKW1qeQIy7Y+nwSiItCryBPId6nP1hyDDP9qM+hmtpWSKHwdF3Iobo83u5B kQwIXRM1VuGhz3eJOJEpQ4iHAcdLDXr0peyxrnDC0DWqOop0Oxs5PIo4d4yqCwJev0tX br28AzkldcWaJL8pDpOXs+9eC8c1kKmLRlK1E= Received: by 10.91.54.8 with SMTP id g8mr16342233agk.83.1257835282239; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rikad42.riken.jp [134.160.214.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm232228yxe.36.2009.11.09.22.41.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:41:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: Maho NAKATA Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:41:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20091110.154105.769051484062721846.chat95@mac.com> To: bennett@cs.niu.edu From: Maho NAKATA In-Reply-To: <200911092107.nA9L7tHX029304@mp.cs.niu.edu> References: <200911092107.nA9L7tHX029304@mp.cs.niu.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bf1783@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:13:21 -0000 Hi all, I'm willing to apply patches to atlas ports if available. I talked with Goto Kazushige (author of GotoBLAS), he told me that L2 cache handling on FreeBSD is very bad. It may be a reason why ATLAS build is so fragile. On Linux machines, it takes only 20 min or so. Thanks for good discussions! Best, Nakata Maho From: Scott Bennett Subject: Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:07:55 -0600 (CST) > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:26:15 +0000 "b. f." > wrote: >>On 11/9/09, Scott Bennett wrote: >>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:59:29 -0800 Doug Barton >>> wrote: >> >>... >> >>> Anyway, the math/py-numpy port now proceeds to build without bothering >>> with math/atlas. It quickly goes astray when it doesn't recognize that any >>> of gfortran4[345] has been installed--I guess there no longer is a FORTRAN >>> compiler included in the base system--and instead tries to use lang/g95, >>> which has also been installed. Of course, this won't work because the ATLAS >>> library needs to have been compiled with the same compiler as the programs >>> that use it. >>> >>> ===> Configuring for py26-numpy-1.3.0_2,1 >>> Running from numpy source directory. >>> [39mF2PY Version 2 [0m >>> [39mblas_opt_info: [0m >>> [39mblas_mkl_info: [0m >>> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib [0m >>> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib [0m >>> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in >>> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../ [0m >>> [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m >>> [39m [0m >>> [39matlas_blas_threads_info: [0m >>> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >>> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >>> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >>> [39m FOUND: [0m >>> [39m libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r'] [0m >>> [39m library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib'] [0m >>> [39m language = c [0m >>> [39m include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include'] [0m >>> [39m [0m >>> /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/command/config.py:361: >>> DeprecationWarning: >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Usage of get_output is deprecated: please do not >>> use it anymore, and avoid configuration checks >>> involving running executable on the target machine. >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> DeprecationWarning) >>> [39mcustomize GnuFCompiler [0m >>> [32mFound executable /usr/local/bin/gfortran44 [0m >>> [31mgnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found [0m >>> [31mgnu: no Fortran 90 compiler found [0m >>> [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler [0m >>> [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler [0m >>> [39mcustomize Gnu95FCompiler using config [0m >>> compiling '_configtest.c': >>> >>> /* This file is generated from numpy/distutils/system_info.py */ >>> void ATL_buildinfo(void); >>> int main(void) { >>> ATL_buildinfo(); >>> return 0; >>> } >>> [39mC compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >>> -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 >>> -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >>> -fPIC >>> [0m >>> [39mcompile options: '-c' [0m >>> [39mgcc44: _configtest.c [0m >>> [39mgcc44 _configtest.o -L/usr/local/lib -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r >>> -latlas_r -o _configtest [0m >>> /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in >>> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) >>> is referenced by DSO >>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >>> /usr/bin/ld: _configtest: hidden symbol `__powisf2' in >>> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_powisf2.o) >>> is referenced by DSO >>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >>> [39mfailure. [0m >>> [39mremoving: _configtest.c _configtest.o [0m >>> [39mStatus: 255 [0m >>> [39mOutput: [0m >>> [39m FOUND: [0m >>> [39m libraries = ['alapack_r', 'f77blas_r', 'cblas_r', 'atlas_r'] [0m >>> [39m library_dirs = ['/usr/local/lib'] [0m >>> [39m language = c [0m >>> [39m define_macros = [('NO_ATLAS_INFO', 2)] [0m >>> [39m include_dirs = ['/usr/local/include'] [0m >>> [39m [0m >>> [39mlapack_opt_info: [0m >>> [39mlapack_mkl_info: [0m >>> [39mmkl_info: [0m >>> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/lib [0m >>> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in /usr/local/lib [0m >>> [39m libraries mkl,vml,guide not found in >>> /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/../../../ [0m >>> [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m >>> [39m [0m >>> [39m NOT AVAILABLE [0m >>> [39m [0m >>> [39matlas_threads_info: [0m >>> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >>> [39m libraries lapack_atlas not found in /usr/local/lib [0m >>> [39mnumpy.distutils.system_info.atlas_threads_info [0m >>> [39mSetting PTATLAS=ATLAS [0m >>> /usr/ports/math/py-numpy/work/numpy-1.3.0/numpy/distutils/system_info.py:999: >>> UserWarning: >>> ********************************************************************* >>> Lapack library (from ATLAS) is probably incomplete: >>> size of /usr/local/lib/libalapack_r.so is 3832k (expected >4000k) >>> >>> Follow the instructions in the KNOWN PROBLEMS section of the file >>> numpy/INSTALL.txt. >>> ********************************************************************* >>> >>> warnings.warn(message) >>> >>> >>> The above sequence gets more or less repeated several more times, and >>> after much compiling, running of python26, and other activities, the >>> process runs aground as follows. >>> >>> >>> [39mcreating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft [0m >>> [39mcompile options: '-Inumpy/core/include >>> -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy >>> -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' [0m >>> [39mgcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.c [0m >>> [39mgcc44: numpy/fft/fftpack.c [0m >>> [39mcc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott >>> -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >>> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_litemodule.o >>> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack.o >>> -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -o >>> build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/fft/fftpack_lite.so [0m >>> [39mbuilding 'numpy.linalg.lapack_lite' extension [0m >>> [39mcompiling C sources [0m >>> [39mC compiler: gcc44 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >>> -march=prescott -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -O2 >>> -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >>> -fPIC >>> [0m >>> [39mcreating build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg [0m >>> [39mcompile options: '-DATLAS_INFO="\"3.9.11\"" -I/usr/local/include >>> -Inumpy/core/include >>> -Ibuild/src.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/core/include/numpy >>> -Inumpy/core/src -Inumpy/core/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.6 -c' [0m >>> [39mgcc44: numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.c [0m >>> [39mgcc44: numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.c [0m >>> [39mcc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=prescott >>> -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >>> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o >>> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o >>> -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r >>> -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o >>> build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so [0m >>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran >>> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgfortran >>> error: Command "cc -shared -pthread -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe >>> -march=prescott -Wl,-rpath=/usr/local/lib/gcc44 >>> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_litemodule.o >>> build/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/python_xerbla.o >>> -L/usr/local/lib -Lbuild/temp.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6 -lalapack_r >>> -lalapack_r -lf77blas_r -lcblas_r -latlas_r -lgfortran -lm -lpthread -o >>> build/lib.freebsd-7.2-STABLE-i386-2.6/numpy/linalg/lapack_lite.so" failed >>> with exit status 1 >>> *** Error code 1 >>> >>> Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy. >>> >>> ===>>> make failed for math/py-numpy >>> ===>>> Aborting update >>> >>> I looked in /usr/local/lib and didn't spot libraries by name for >>> gfortran[345], so I assume they have either been renamed or included in >>> with the corresponding gcc libraries. What is the best way to proceed? >>> Will simply deleting the instances of "-lgfortran" do the job? Or do I >>> need to specify the library explicitly? >>> >> >>The port is broken WITH_ATLAS=yes on your system: it reverts to using >>the base system C compiler, cc, when it should be using gcc44. You >>trimmed off some relevant parts, so it is difficult to tell at a >>glance whether this is because something is wrong with your system, or >>with the port itself, although the port has a history of problems >>with this non-default option. If I have some time later, I may play >>with it, but at the moment, I don't have atlas installed. You should > > Okay, but be advised that the ATLAS library takes around six hours > to build on a 3.4 GHz Prescott with little else active on the machine > at the time. (ATLAS should be built on a very quiet machine, so that > its timing tests will be fairly accurate. The build is likely to die > if several runs of a timing test yield a variance greater than what the > build procedure wants.) > >>send a full build transcript to me and the math/py-numpy maintainer >>via private email. > > Will do, but probably not till tonight sometime. >> >>The libraries in question should be in /usr/local/lib/gcc44. When >>searching for registered shared libraries, it is easier to do >>something like: >> >>ldconfig -vr | grep -ie fortran > > 1046:-lgfortran.3 => /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.so.3 > 1056:-lgfortran.3 => /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.so.3 > 1068:-lgfortran.3 => /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.so.3 >> >>and for static libraries or unregistered shared libraries, locate(1) >>and find(1) are your friends. >> > Well, locate(1) *ought* to be, you're right. However, although it > worked fine on FreeBSD 5, I've never succeeded in getting FreeBSD 6 or 7 > to build the locate database properly. It would be nice, but I've already > spent too many hours on too many occasions trying to track down the trouble, > so I just use find(1). > find(1) turns up the following. > > /usr/local/lib/gcc43/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.3.5/libgfortranbegin.la > /usr/local/lib/gcc43/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.3.5/libgfortranbegin.a > /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.so.3 > /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.so > /usr/local/lib/gcc43/libgfortran.a > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgfortranbegin.la > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.4.3/libgfortranbegin.a > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.so.3 > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.so > /usr/local/lib/gcc44/libgfortran.a > /usr/local/lib/gcc45/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.5.0/libgfortranbegin.la > /usr/local/lib/gcc45/gcc/i386-portbld-freebsd7.2/4.5.0/libgfortranbegin.a > /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.so.3 > /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.so > /usr/local/lib/gcc45/libgfortran.a > > I'll get the rest of the stuff off to you later tonight. Thank you > very much for looking at all of this. I wonder if I'm the only person > trying to install science/gnudatalanguage. There have been enough > obstacles to getting that done that I have to wonder how the maintainer > managed to test it. > > > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG > ********************************************************************** > * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * > *--------------------------------------------------------------------* > * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * > * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * > * -- a standing army." * > * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * > ********************************************************************** > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 07:47:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2DE106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arek@wup-katowice.pl) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (mx1.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836F18FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.wup-katowice.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4CE61C65 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:52:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (arek.wup-katowice.pl [195.39.216.233]) by mx1.wup-katowice.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8631261C5A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:52:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:46:59 +0100 From: Arek Czereszewski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; pl; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AF90A6E.3040907@wup-katowice.pl> <4AF90F44.1070509@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AF90F44.1070509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <4AF91A73.7080904@wup-katowice.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.36/RELEASE, bases: 20091110 #3185641, check: 20091110 clean Subject: Re: php4-gd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: arek@wup-katowice.pl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:47:02 -0000 W dniu 2009-11-10 07:59, Matthew Seaman pisze: > Arek Czereszewski wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have on some web servers php4-gd port installed >> and I am totally confused. >> Portaudit says >> >> Affected package: php4-gd-4.4.9 >> Type of problem: gd -- '_gdGetColors' remote buffer overflow >> vulnerability. >> Reference: >> >> >> On this site is info about: 5.2.11 and 5.3.0 >> >> On Securityfocus is info also about 4.4.9 >> but on cve.mitre.org is not. >> >> Any idea where is the true? >> Are my servers with php4-gd are secure or not? > > This is a bug in the underlying gd library rather than in PHP itself. There > are fixes to two related ports: if you've updated graphics/gd to the latest > version (gd-2.0.35_2,1), and built the latest port revision of the php5-gd > module (which is php5-gd-5.2.11_2) then those should have been secured. > > However, the PHP4 version of the gd module is still at version > php4-gd-4.4.9, and doesn't seem to have been patched -- there is no patch > for CVE-2009-3546 in the php4 sources -- so it seems you are still > vulnerable > when using PHP4. This is to be expected: the PHP project is deprecating > PHP4 > and putting all their effort in to developing PHP5 instead. Patches may > be forthcoming eventually, but who knows when? > > Basically, if you're running PHP4 on a public site then you should be > making > plans to upgrade to PHP5 ASAP. > Cheers, > > Matthew > Hi, So I need to upgrade php4 to php5. Thank you for information. Regards Arek -- Arek Czereszewski arek (at) wup-katowice (dot) pl "UNIX allows me to work smarter, not harder." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 07:58:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347881065692 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B548FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAA7vrhv009353; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:57:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:57:52 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200911100757.nAA7vqJL009352@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: chat95@mac.com Cc: bf1783@googlemail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: math/atlas-devel build times (was Re: math/py-numpy vs. math/atlas-devel) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:58:16 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:41:05 +0900 (JST) Maho NAKATA wrote: >I'm willing to apply patches to atlas ports if available. Thanks, Maho. It appears that the most critical change is to make sure the tools can know that math/atlas and math/atlas-devel conflict with each other, so that if one is already installed, the tools won't try to install the other. >I talked with Goto Kazushige (author of GotoBLAS), he told me >that L2 cache handling on FreeBSD is very bad. It may be a reason I would be very interested in knowing in detail why he thinks that. The ATLAS build procedure, however, does use a very crude algorithm for detecting the sizes of L1 and L2 caches that "detects" cache sizes much smaller than they actually are. I think there are some ways of correcting the "detected" sizes, but they involve editing source files and making decisions that go way beyond anything that the FreeBSD ports system is equipped to handle. Assuming cache sizes that are typically 1/2 or 1/4 of the actual sizes will quite naturally give less than optimal results. It is worth noting, though, that this same algorithm for cache size detection is used for building ATLAS on any operating system on i386 or amd64 architectures. >why ATLAS build is so fragile. On Linux machines, it takes only 20 min or so. > As I wrote before, the sensitivity is based upon the variance of a run times. The sample size is quite small, so any sizable differences in even one or two run times can put the variance over the build procedure's tolerance threshhold. On my machine, I always had to edit a source file to increase the number of iterations of each test from 10 to either 100 or 1000 in order to get the sensitivity down to where occasional other activity in the system wouldn't kill the ATLAS build. However, math/atlas-devel in FreeBSD 7.2 surprised me by building cleanly with no such intervention required, which pleased me greatly, of course. I don't know what the authors changed to make this happen. In any case, the variance sensitivity problem ought to be the same, regardless of operating system. The ATLAS build procedure builds an unthreaded version of the library on any system. If more than one logical/physical CPU is detected, it also builds a threaded version. You didn't mention the system configuration that can allegedly build ATLAS in only 20 minutes. I'm building it on a Dell Inspiron XPS, which has a 3.4 GHz P4 Prescott CPU. The L1 caches are 64 KB each, IIRC, and the L2 cache is 1 MB, but ATLAS's build procedure typically decides that the L1 size is 16 KB or less and the L2 size is 256 KB. I have hyperthreading enabled, so the build procedure sees two (logical) CPUs, but the gains from the hyperthreading are very small in this situation. Building ATLAS on a truly dual-cored system ought to give much shorter build times, and building it on a Core i7 system ought to be tremendously faster with or without enabling the i7's reputedly better implemented HT. The P4 Prescott is now a very old chip model. (I bought this machine new five years ago.) The last time I checked, the LINUX kernel still didn't know the difference between logical CPUs and physical CPUs, so it's difficult to see how its cache management in a HT environment could be any better than FreeBSD's. Maybe LINUX has been updated to understand five-year-old technology since I last checked, but that still should only make it closer to FreeBSD's performance, not radically faster than FreeBSD. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:18:58 -0000 2009/11/9 Kevin Kinsey > Svante Kvarnstrom wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Have you tried -f (for background) and -N for "Do not execute a remote >> command"? See man 1 ssh for more details. >> >> Svante >> > > Cheers for you! > > It was "-f" without "-N" that produced the error. > > I'm guessing I got down the manpage about as far as > "-f" and didn't go any further. *beats head on desk* > > Thanks, Svante! > > For the archives: > > SMTP OVER SSH TUNNEL FREEBSD > > sudo ssh -f -N -L localname:24:remotename:52525 me@remotename > > When SMTP is listening on "remotename" port 52525. "sudo" is needed > to open the tunnel on the "localname" side on port 24 (a privileged > port). You could do this as "root" on the local side, but shouldn't > connect *to* root on the remote computer. > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Kevin Kinsey wrote: >> >> Greetings! >>> >>> >>> sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox >>> >>> I've got Sendmail listening there on 52525, and it works >>> fine; the local clients are told to connect to "thisbox" >>> port 24. The only issue is that I have to run it from >>> a terminal session. When I tried to bg the process ("cmdstring &") >>> it doesn't work, exactly. I've gotten an error message >>> at times*, and at other times I apparently get "thisbox" >>> listening on port 24 but it's not an SMTP daemon that's >>> listening. >>> >>> I have a feeling it's cause I'm in csh, which is notorious >>> for backgrounding issues. At any rate, what I'd >>> like to do is have a script set up the connection, or >>> write some daemon that would monitor the connection and >>> fix it if it gets reset. At any rate, if I could get this >>> SSH process to detach from a terminal, it'd be great. >>> >>> Any suggestions? >>> >>> Kevin Kinsey >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > if you put it on a port > 1024 instead of 24 you wont need to run it as root so can drop the sudo bit From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 13:43:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D383106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0279E8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP87 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:42:59 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP87.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:42:59 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9A6022830 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:42:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:42:57 -0500 From: carmel_ny To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 13:42:59.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[B73F6D30:01CA620B] Subject: Does FreeBSD support the Ralink RT73 chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:00 -0000 I just got my hands on a Belkin Wireless device that uses a Ralink RT73 chipset. Rather than waste a lot of time attempting to get it to work, I thought I would ask if anyone here has succeed in doing so. I see that FreeBSD supports: Atheros and Intersil Prism components;however, I did not see any mention of the Ralink RT73 chipset. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Like the ski resort of girls looking for husbands and husbands looking for girls, the situation is not as symmetrical as it might seem. Alan McKay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 14:52:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF24710656C0 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ED918FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35568 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2009 14:52:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257864742; bh=l3Lz3PyhvMmMeYMaIrJ2t9lA/eCbNtLQFGD2CsZxYKg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6HOeKO9pqljqnD2mBAvUohPWA33+AqE1MdsCE+d/tct1rzKZbwdCppL8Wuq8PQYgfe/t3b/U+NZw3Tyx8NFBlbhkICMP7jBL+S1ibx5DpvV47Fm/RuIWqdVb+WtFOQBRkFXIjomD7bClLZfE/kb7X4pTdAhexfyuWLpuVLGuPY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O6Tqnh4GYNypX7yJ2bqxpmED0UqaHI4LXb31NWZt4v/8eBeBAcXbJ6XhgSrC81iJMqbu37XU9zpeVRG7ZOdzjX5vDMfw5ZLUqvgy2k9M4b0cn/YKKKLINY/Egbin9hmvdvFa8lV22IpT5I95wzFJM7EADyp7l6Jzcz5rAWreuhM=; Message-ID: <160386.35197.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: taoPccQVM1lk2fOW1nG0qAqv0Qkh94gKz8.pnW.8_2cJU6WLRwLfNnVtMrt381xAv9WIsDYZoJOtGJifw9Y2NnhxPyMG5.Zr8iJUoeSv6N64NenNnzBY.Uzqt2gSMnGPPFSOhCMYvaVS.6xtWLl..6lWR6jYlz1aphSCqk6R.fuRo5SZCihEHfIySIug5_iGHiuws2bGPuejNP4cXjQE6Btz7gMZNBXLwOHycJdfjFiNmsye7V3.trx8msuOw5nqxIWG0_HzPm_NpYjiOe2g Received: from [94.21.228.238] by web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:52:22 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:52:22 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: pppoe related X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:52:23 -0000 Hi,=0A=0AWhat do you use to keep alive your FreeBSD pppoe connection client= even if there is no traffic? What do you set to reconnect the pppoe client= automaticaly on any disconnection?=0A=0AThank you!=0AL=E1szl=F3=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 15:02:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6A0106568B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8598FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945461839615B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:01:58 +0100 (CET) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAAF1wk8006532 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:01:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:01:58 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Subject: FreeBSD && remote MS ACCESS database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:02:00 -0000 Hello, Is there any chance to read and update a remote MS ACCSESS database from FreeBSD 8-CURRENT, via ODBC? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 15:04:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257211065693 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 679F08FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Nov 2009 15:04:35 -0000 Received: from pD952D9B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.217.177] by mail.gmx.net (mp067) with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 16:04:35 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+hztZN/pKhYp/GVhs/c2LiGvIiTOVxgR7pl9N4Iz r4IcEIDm8Gy1Va Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:04:27 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Message-Id: <20091110160427.5a91c3b2.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <160386.35197.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <160386.35197.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Tue__10_Nov_2009_16_04_27_+0100_BRMORkqHQ4p1BYBI" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoe related X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:04:39 -0000 --Signature=_Tue__10_Nov_2009_16_04_27_+0100_BRMORkqHQ4p1BYBI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:52:22 -0800 (PST) D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wrote: > What do you use to keep alive your FreeBSD pppoe connection client even i= f there is no traffic? What do you set to reconnect the pppoe client automa= ticaly on any disconnection? man ppp -ddial Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Tue__10_Nov_2009_16_04_27_+0100_BRMORkqHQ4p1BYBI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkr5gP4ACgkQ8P3NNypXNWVKhQCggnsQCfB20N4Mb5ztKCiVSV6n pEcAn3kWiQbJl1F9CTjnJdyD3qdVT4SK =yWEX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__10_Nov_2009_16_04_27_+0100_BRMORkqHQ4p1BYBI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 15:17:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42711065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CF48FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N7sT2-000HQY-6O; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:17:18 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fireball.entropy.prv [192.168.1.12]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2ED3734355; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:17:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4AF983F4.5090605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:17:08 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD && remote MS ACCESS database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:17:19 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Apitz wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any chance to read and update a remote MS ACCSESS database from > FreeBSD 8-CURRENT, via ODBC? Thanks in advance > > matthias Hi Matthias, I haven't used it before, but perhaps the unixODBC port would help you? http://bit.ly/2MejSv Best regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFK+YP00sRouByUApARAorNAKCujTYRRFoRmaZsBCD1Fye+Z+VxcQCfY1af q2Xw/MKKJFbGsUDTWBDgqQI= =7NtD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 15:18:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DC11065676 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C0A8FC1B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id nAAFI2Fw077888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:18:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAAFI2Ht067282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:18:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAAFI1hw067280; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:18:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:18:01 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20091110151800.GG89052@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:18:03 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD && remote MS ACCESS database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:18:05 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 10), Matthias Apitz said: > Is there any chance to read and update a remote MS ACCSESS database from > FreeBSD 8-CURRENT, via ODBC? Thanks in advance With samba, wine, and a local install of Office, sure. ODBC is a programming API, not a networking protocol, so you need direct access to the .mdb file. MS Access is the only thing that can read .mdb files, so that's why you need wine and a local Office install. If you really need remote access to the data, move the tables into a client-server database (mysql, postgres, etc) so you can get to them directly from Unix, and use linked tables in your .mdb file so Access itself will still work. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 15:26:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18172106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f194.google.com (mail-px0-f194.google.com [209.85.216.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E794F8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi32 with SMTP id 32so74221pxi.15 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:26:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=U4XQdIRVMh3AayGub9seMLRjPK7HfrhsCbwkTj6LQY0=; b=UqFvW27yrfkvNiNMgL3uQUaK1NCFZBNfpZTERTZOQve3/RZxOAOfQFKshuF8VbKTIR uHIj8c9dxozohxjZaQSZDb4rRsrEMzcsZ66dWpNAghfdcSoMSu1RVxbmi+7ZwQzbRD96 uNQ5xz63S9UdKvik1+EroIJGCWv/vVxvIfgIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dOaO6IKZ9EYR9Sb0C5uqKaa7q81pXIvqlNVRlBZK61C4IM2Ywk+CuBKs0KIybqCA54 ZoT8iP0mGROQTS+opsiRlMaHal6YQGggrwSngcYqC1/IElqi+nLFI/rRoCVFZJsE/F7o hyPATZmLVT1fPRhZAzngIcTDpjpa8eaJnZcWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.3.3 with SMTP id 3mr17384wfc.275.1257866763658; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:26:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:26:03 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90911100726p2a291c32vc19d3eeed5608b4a@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: x input method question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:26:04 -0000 I'm trying to type hangul/korean in any X app. No luck so far. I'm on a paired-down desktop on xfwm, and I've installed nabi and scim-hangul, but neither one seems to do anything....I'm on 8-RC1 if it makes any difference...I'm actually an english speaker, so the nabi www pages are a little hard to look at for help ;) Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 16:09:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818BB106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179278FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so166200ewy.43 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=g1ubB+fc/KkwM3fstCv/XKkHN9yOfmla4vc37Y1V5eg=; b=uKmMkDp2p+M8Vrq47h0sqZlm+cjFfMLqxUNFLuKYqWuw2FmQgmnc6nyb1msxjb2wEe 7d9CwYKwuE3IqD56ZB8ni14cm/tokirQha6KQ7kkCL4aZINEFZ8KkIN8kduqkHW0kSHb sUK8KQvKqpi71ixfIYTxxEwJr3DHAYCNfXlJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P2h1VswVpKx103R0qh29DqpJ+qG3stRPbdtmyGYH+qRc+xcKFroq4kg9okiW9OETnF 0KwySVS1/w+T/UJC8hAg37Saa5dkQkt90lla7Y8ff41c5zrGUBRqHav5LB3Q4yEUaq3s rWxsD3COeeVEHMRCJuuUWKHIPoHsf3dGOeM3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.24.22 with SMTP id t22mr1284002ebb.59.1257869395066; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:09:55 -0500 Message-ID: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: libjpeg.so.9 missing from my installation of FBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:09:56 -0000 I very much appreciate the help I get here. And boy!, do I need it. Undoubtedly I did something wrong when I was putting my system together. But I just can't throw it away -- I'm trying to get some things done. So, awk! help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 16:12:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5221065697 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EBD8FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C6F1EBC0A; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:12:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:12:53 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Dan Nelson Message-Id: <20091110111253.343d9962.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20091110151800.GG89052@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> <20091110151800.GG89052@dan.emsphone.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD && remote MS ACCESS database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:12:56 -0000 In response to Dan Nelson : > In the last episode (Nov 10), Matthias Apitz said: > > Is there any chance to read and update a remote MS ACCSESS database from > > FreeBSD 8-CURRENT, via ODBC? Thanks in advance > > With samba, wine, and a local install of Office, sure. ODBC is a > programming API, not a networking protocol, so you need direct access to the > .mdb file. MS Access is the only thing that can read .mdb files, so that's why > you need wine and a local Office install. Not quite accurate. The .mdb format is supported by a number of Microsoft products. In particular, MS offers an ODBC driver that read/writes the .mdb files and makes it look like any other ODBC device. I don't know if there's an equivalent for FreeBSD (or anything other than Windows). > If you really need remote access to the data, move the tables into a > client-server database (mysql, postgres, etc) so you can get to them > directly from Unix, and use linked tables in your .mdb file so Access itself > will still work. Connecting to a .mdb-based database remotely is fraught with peril. I've seen dozens of .mdb databases corrupted over my years because some weird file locking glitch or network glitch caused the files to become mangled. Add to that the fact that an .mdb database has absolutely no security (to the degree that any user could simply delete the entire thing) and I have to agree with Dan's assertion that you'll be much better off, long run, to move this onto a read DB server. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 16:44:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677D71065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@shute.org.uk) Received: from atmail-8.bnguk.net (atmail-8.bnguk.net [80.74.253.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259478FC20 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.54.144] helo=orange.esperance-linux.co.uk) by atmail-8.bnguk.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N7tp2-0005zQ-5m; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:00 +0000 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4485D4AC1B; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:43:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:43:59 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Henry Olyer Message-ID: <20091110164359.GA33433@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Henry Olyer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libjpeg.so.9 missing from my installation of FBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:02 -0000 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:09:55AM -0500, Henry Olyer wrote: > > I very much appreciate the help I get here. And boy!, do I need it. > > Undoubtedly I did something wrong when I was putting my system together. > But I just can't throw it away -- I'm trying to get some things done. > > So, awk! help! $ pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.9 /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.9 was installed by package jpeg-6b_7 Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 16:57:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43353106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f186.google.com (mail-px0-f186.google.com [209.85.216.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145498FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi16 with SMTP id 16so142862pxi.29 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:57:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=I9e1/wJD0ANqXnBad5v87NQ98QXW4AzykzFVRDm8fOU=; b=ou0MK2ZtRNEsLq6tbEmWZoH72Cd8AiR64qhKmQ4SlmI4hmTtFnMSZkk0Bi/GIlf8Pk BPyHAUOvbk7IAR7K0Uvv38/M4b5duE/8wMrtZQGtrOOgELRglRT3vAN6/PEgDWVv3dhM QmDRAz4W3Pxx/7SN2jF6mZ94iH+0pvU8nx1Hc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=iNVOZ9ed7GzfjeeDq16UUh8gRqobSnIBRHryxDyNDMcpzXq0QwMojgvQRsodeleUxz 714RnMmS8OOrI6DNIXoKfVTNb0krVhbH7PUIGIgVNBR3g1jigWSiXM+hbH3Uqsv5rqJF RtmIDorQrW+z9ngv4yevMDa97x1JOKVDzqbsY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.7.3 with SMTP id 3mr36114wfg.126.1257872267402; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:57:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911091640.35419.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> References: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <200911091640.35419.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:57:47 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 97b089df693aa22f Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: "Daniel O'Connor" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:57:51 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > [ -current CC dropped ] > On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote: > > I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a > > barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now > > done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions > > from a through h except b and c is now obsoleted. When dropping into > > the installation process, I realised that the 8 partition boundary is > > still present. > > Is there a howto (I searched the wiki and lists without success)? I > > read a lot about how to install FreeBSD on op of a complete ZFS > > infrastructure, but key issue seems to be a hands-on partitioning of > > the target haddrive via the fixit procedure. > > sysinstall does not [yet] do GPT partitions, I believe someone is > working on patches but I have no idea what state they are in. > > Progressing nicely, but still quite a ways off from being ready. ;) -- randi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 17:02:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15091106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DC88FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomizer (pool-173-71-189-135.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [173.71.189.135]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322A9BA5C; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:36:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:36:52 -0500 From: Rod Person To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20091110113652.56a68963@atomizer> In-Reply-To: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> References: <20091110150158.GA6500@current.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD && remote MS ACCESS database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:02:13 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:01:58 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there any chance to read and update a remote MS ACCSESS database from > FreeBSD 8-CURRENT, via ODBC? Thanks in advance > > matthias If you are familiar with python you could use py-odbc to read the access .mdb file as a normal database. A connection string of an Acess 2007 db without a password would look like this, where fileName is the complete path and file name of the access mdb file. cntString = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0; Data Source=%s; User Id=admin;Password=;" % (fileName) I've not tried it over an internet connection, though. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -Napoleon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 17:17:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1ED106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeronimocalvop@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f173.google.com (mail-vw0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344E78FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws3 with SMTP id 3so79239vws.3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:17:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a7ngbf9PbuMUL41nLY0+k+YBv0U3eBp6zfI3uYDNQXs=; b=FVQWZ5yHi3y1I9WCaIvZep1HycaW4ONYQoDwgkE/LaR1lY4hTRHoLYLLdiYAm9xySA nbpUEHh3rOtYRkq5orSFmW62KbFUGYq3wAUnqgewaKqhoi4/5cS9BgF1HyHrfg/BLydr 6bgHp6461sRMWgPsxXxsAWqA0FIBVbparQtzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bzoLP7yarF9lzJ8y4djjQOhsPCbNYD5YnOZ62QlHO2LlPwTNNDdfvdfSo/PuvRYnf8 dSvspJhzgi1GuRAdAHMOJ5/2ct6DLpPsqVYcYoaKEO6DBL3g5YpxAomRnyC7vZUzrZY1 TzFtMqPAKHmtMSFyiKIsfx/uQ7f3xQuAPuMUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.65.200 with SMTP id k8mr447133vci.56.1257873432051; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:17:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:12 +0000 Message-ID: From: Jeronimo Calvo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD support the Ralink RT73 chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:13 -0000 Hi there, I am using RT61, so makes me wonder that RT73 does. Cheers! 2009/11/10 carmel_ny : > I just got my hands on a Belkin Wireless device that uses a Ralink > RT73 chipset. Rather than waste a lot of time attempting to get it to > work, I thought I would ask if anyone here has succeed in doing so. I > see that FreeBSD supports: Atheros and Intersil Prism > components;however, I did not see any mention of the Ralink RT73 > chipset. > > -- > Carmel > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |::::=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > |=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > | > > Like the ski resort of girls looking for husbands and husbands looking > for girls, the situation is not as symmetrical as it might seem. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alan McKay > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 17:21:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FD5106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B508FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4466801.home.otenet.gr [94.71.104.97]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nAAHLHao013971; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:18 +0200 Message-ID: <4AF9A10E.5090603@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:21:18 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henry Olyer References: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libjpeg.so.9 missing from my installation of FBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:21:20 -0000 Henry Olyer wrote: > I very much appreciate the help I get here. And boy!, do I need it. > > Undoubtedly I did something wrong when I was putting my system together. > But I just can't throw it away -- I'm trying to get some things done. > > So, awk! help! > Where you performing an upgrade of an existing system? AFAIK libjpeg.so.* libraries get installed by the graphics/jpeg port. This was (fairly) recently upgraded, and if you did not follow the /usr/ports/UPDATING instructions carefully, you probably ended up with some dependent apps still linked to the old version of the library. See /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20090719: AFFECTS: users of graphics/jpeg AUTHOR: dinoex@FreeBSD.org The IJG jpeg library has been updated to version 7.0. Please rebuild all ports that depend on it. In short, try the following (assuming you use portupgrade): portupgrade -fr graphics/jpeg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 18:19:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5E3106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidcollins001@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5728D8FC20 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so322915fxm.3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:19:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:reply-to:to:subject :message-id:references:in-reply-to:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=cQm9vwUik0m10CVLSL5QQjPHJE65Fca4L5dZPbuvV2I=; b=SIsyI7PXioKDmBH8zynpSOKbVc3k2vGxtdZqRgztfAAjrX+B8nf7aiV7T9yXW0jp/t FZ2T2rfAgCFLhJkEKaHTNIDrkoJTw/3D5jT6gFv58EbRQ4b4M+30exSqzrlq15GP+Wtc sTU12NvvK3s+hmtMZFS6rIVnBICOt851hwmaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:references:in-reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=pSwUzHXYdnO2DvLFWtJGcyGXdWt973moccPiZ7ZuUAV8XuUVkCKJLYLCX4v4SkG5Nd AqmdEpY+gpReNkDRvJ+e8+1fgt90Y94HeWTxVqRTiVDAmvPtsAifcQ9V4Roy41QEgZ2b O6EWbzBcREjIFdheyvadrHpKeiVldxW4HYNNo= Received: by 10.204.156.195 with SMTP id y3mr443117bkw.46.1257877161261; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from icecobra.homeunix.com (host86-155-44-94.range86-155.btcentralplus.com [86.155.44.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19sm1489737fkr.23.2009.11.10.10.19.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:19:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:19:01 +0000 From: David Collins To: kdk@daleco.biz, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4af9ae95.RHunUtG9FYOTtwfD%davidcollins001@gmail.com> References: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4AF85FC9.10103@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4pre 6/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_4af9ae95.IxGfVXUUHDB0EK50Rpo+FJA8sCYptram0K3B+d3MYZoRb0bR" Cc: Subject: Re: Remote ssh tunnel in background or script? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: davidcollins001@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:19:23 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_4af9ae95.IxGfVXUUHDB0EK50Rpo+FJA8sCYptram0K3B+d3MYZoRb0bR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Greetings! > > In order to continue to allow them to connect to an outbound > SMTP box on the LAN, I've done this on their server: > > sudo ssh -L thisbox:24:remotebox:52525 me@remotebox I wrote a script to get around my home firewall, it doesn't do exactly as you want but that only requires changing the ssh bit. I call it from cron so it stays alive, if it dies it will re-connect otherwise it just checks a lock file. It may be of use David --=_4af9ae95.IxGfVXUUHDB0EK50Rpo+FJA8sCYptram0K3B+d3MYZoRb0bR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="revssh" #!/usr/bin/perl ## ## PURPOSE: ## run reverse ssh to work ## ## designed to be run from crontab. creates a lock file so that ## not more than one instance of the process is started ## use strict; use warnings; ## user crontab doesn't have permission in /var for lock file ## or for ports below 1024 my $username='username'; my $hostname="hostname"; my $address=$hostname.".somewhere.com"; my $port=$ARGV[0]; #2022; my $lckfile="/tmp/revssh.${hostname}.pid"; sub start_ssh { ## fork process to start ssh defined( my $pid=fork ) or die "cannot fork process: $!"; ## parent - open lock file with child pid if($pid) { print "Starting process: $pid\n"; open(LOCKFILE,">$lckfile") or die "Cannot create lock file: $!"; print LOCKFILE "${pid}"; close(LOCKFILE); } else { ## child - start ssh process exec("ssh -qnNCX -R ${port}:localhost:22 ". "${username}\@${address}") or die "cannot exec process\n"; } } ## main if(! -e $lckfile) { start_ssh(); } else { ## get running(?) pid from pid file @ARGV = ($lckfile);my $old_pid = ; my $running = kill 0, $old_pid; ## lock file exists - is process still running? if ( $running == 1 ) { die "Process running: $old_pid\n"; } else { ## check lockfile was deleted! if(! unlink $lckfile) { die "Lockfile not deleted\n"; } print "Orphan lock file - Lock file deleted\n\t"; start_ssh(); } } --=_4af9ae95.IxGfVXUUHDB0EK50Rpo+FJA8sCYptram0K3B+d3MYZoRb0bR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 18:52:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995101065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EFC88FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 36975 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2009 18:52:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257879124; bh=CIKLntv1OXR2Lz68NbuPoicxV7ycp8UnMMRv3PDUr5s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hbsL1eMlLsItkG93d1jqWZS5URP4dzhDaa0L8JYOLtj3zY7f1Ji4Aiu9e+oY0O6Tkl3vPORNQhYyByslyX0Dx3jJjx+vyi5SEd37kILbwd3Cw27iYy8TCUpCZrVE3egmcnqJrRgGCQT3mdxV+QUeD/sVK54M9/1j38dZbZYk93Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iYkhTsuGytZ3wB2Y+OC6f/ITuCObntLSYkSB9YI3IkSnq+RL+MW7JbJQ3JbhjEwM5o69w7BGvrQxYCtyiZRQcvzS+VteQZXla1OK2F9UGZfMqwaVHJPk7HtydjJeHHMIOqL+Tcaah8pF4qu0DpBKGKxsgEMuI+BktRqH6vYi1D4=; Message-ID: <880132.36621.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4QjLy30VM1ljxQtb4jqahYm70wQCCBk9tPikUCr6uYS.kg_EMbhvnI2YJhyltZSOVJpxL.CQLZGty_VOjyKF0qS4tluMvDbTm0IZNxjTZd.XI5dR4exu8ALJwgrZEUGta_7OyBbhR12KusbMuPc6fR3W.J0xiJ8aP.l7TY.3_qVGkqsuVfE0f1KQt5BrTt4CLnv1iNZ0eCw9BFhJ_quAaknl0W0pKCm83KsK0zglTO7Dj4I762Z7YYwhWegJplNgcR3qaqf4_ERttlp0AdfuumdQqC9Md5HTXwAOoXaJRJ4Ybwe3JvnRa7mNP5H_hWE3Ih1QcKHjGXOGh5phxRbf1JHqlKkTxX4.QH2c_j6sJjCi.YzoYuHgii8cKRjLzSnTzEgXSskcDdmwUqE4c1I- Received: from [78.131.57.57] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:52:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 References: <160386.35197.qm@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20091110160427.5a91c3b2.cyb.@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:52:04 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Andreas Rudisch In-Reply-To: <20091110160427.5a91c3b2.cyb.@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pppoe related X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:52:05 -0000 Thank you!=0AFound out!=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:= Andreas Rudisch =0ATo: D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Tue, November 10= , 2009 4:04:27 PM=0ASubject: Re: pppoe related=0A=0AOn Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:= 52:22 -0800 (PST)=0AD=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 wro= te:=0A=0A> What do you use to keep alive your FreeBSD pppoe connection clie= nt even if there is no traffic? What do you set to reconnect the pppoe clie= nt automaticaly on any disconnection?=0A=0Aman ppp=0A-ddial=0A=0AAndreas=0A= --=0AGnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/=0AFing= erprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565=0A=0A=0A=0A = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 19:01:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0FA106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jabidan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F9A8FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so364821fxm.3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:01:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KgP9EobWoUCBZJ/giQFme/3uNlqsZ9rXyXCwELmOhjw=; b=CcEpDoLvuhALq/l3Bzage+ebOU/ZWO7pa1kfeoxeXjVr0AcBDtACtA4CkIQJOxnQxo oVCELUTT33Z6+018gJ7oAHVqpnR8lzsSHcGvT0pHVpFrw+sTnahUcE49t+SxPOYtR+wW 9E5SS+f/dUIWayMlh+SI5DP1sk4ocExXDQPec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SXwyF8241eCkErYoGPkmbPMEE7YQpbFn8Ip2oskpAARdDF3LKIKqJI829as7heboHv HOqw1lm0MLgXNuSY0KFzUSrmrDLwoHzhmHWBtaTgmKmwimgwCn3wOyv7qhTg/oLNAP5a hTR46O6txqDsBf2IDyZdIEw/71/+/j1qElVn8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.139.132 with SMTP id t4mr52490hbt.88.1257879696285; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:01:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:01:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FATAL TRAP 12 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:01:38 -0000 Someone has had problems with this type of issues? what it is related to? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 19:04:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5861065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8106B8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP61 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:04:58 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP61.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:04:58 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 599852290E for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:04:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:04:56 -0500 From: carmel_ny To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 19:04:58.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[B278C3F0:01CA6238] Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD support the Ralink RT73 chipset X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:04:59 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:12 +0000 Jeronimo Calvo replied: >I am using RT61, so makes me wonder that RT73 does. I contacted Belkin to make sure I had the proper information. They responded: Chipset information for F5D9050 version 4000 is Ralink RT2671F, RT2528L (RT73) -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Increased knowledge will help you now. Have mate's phone bugged. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 19:08:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549AA106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantinos.pac@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77048FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so343899ewy.43 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:08:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=/e+DXzXXEeho+PA8noQd5rnNt71sydTEuZmB+GBws10=; b=X6PzBf2hP1huW6RLRsFwaQSyU8wwgtfGIT5HBE1nFhDlM7bxyYEu0J3Bzd0+Hv2Lgs 5XQJK3oiQQUTX7u6t7RHm0yR6In2cMJp3zBlLeeXRkSGytM9Jw/ZAvwf45t7pbSFxe1E FaD9NEN+RfFm1oX6MDt24gv2uhsFD0nr5jvGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; b=W7MOAHnpGd8+ILStXUKqIpg8/SQ5iEBioI5azBXUpjj4836dUYDyB+xg4Nu5v3aQ+r qAg+neGc/1bCnYRhbhID+Tl1cNwApZpcGsDzFpR2Foloifrqu4g0sLVt2vBe87kN7Y0z My94LmBUR6+gmFSSyzA7+jjOXOw67NeEC3yJY= Received: by 10.213.1.205 with SMTP id 13mr415784ebg.50.1257878729469; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.69.140? (athedsl-116370.home.otenet.gr [85.75.30.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm2341167eyb.8.2009.11.10.10.45.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:45:29 -0800 (PST) From: Konstantinos Pachnis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:45:27 +0200 Message-Id: <39B2B008-DF9C-49FB-B17B-B8A3E254D9B8@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Ruby Enterprise Edition 1.8.7 Apache / Passenger on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:08:56 -0000 Hello, I was trying to use Apache/Passenger with Ruby Enterprise Edition 1.8.7 = (both versions) on a FreeBSD 7.2 (i386 and x86_64), and Apache reports = the following error: Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.13 OpenSSL/0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.11 = with Suhosin-Patch Phusion_Passenger/2.2.5 configured -- resuming normal = operations Fatal error 'Cannot allocate red zone for initial thread' at line 384 in = file /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_init.c (errno =3D 12) Has anyone come across to that ? Thanks in advance, Konstantinos= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 19:33:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCE4106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:33:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B25F8FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 14:33:17 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.7-GA) with ESMTP id QHP43915; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Nov 2009 14:32:46 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19193.49116.848405.783871@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:32:44 -0500 To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <4AF9A10E.5090603@otenet.gr> References: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> <4AF9A10E.5090603@otenet.gr> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Henry Olyer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libjpeg.so.9 missing from my installation of FBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:33:19 -0000 Manolis Kiagias writes: > Where you performing an upgrade of an existing system? > AFAIK libjpeg.so.* libraries get installed by the graphics/jpeg port. > This was (fairly) recently upgraded, and if you did not follow the > /usr/ports/UPDATING instructions carefully, you probably ended up with > some dependent apps still linked to the old version of the library. > > In short, try the following (assuming you use portupgrade): > > portupgrade -fr graphics/jpeg graphics/jpeg is a dependency for a _lot_ of ports. (100+ on my system.) Were I in the OP's shoes, I'd run pkg_info -R to find out which ones and feed the (edited) results through pkg_sort. Otherwise I might find myself rebuilding something like OpenOffice at an inopportune moment .... Robert "thirty six hours and counting, tra-la" Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 17:17:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880EC1065676 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E51E8FC08 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: g4u option Thread-Index: AcpiJ17UY36+BAuIRna1NsWhTtxlaA== From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:11:21 +0000 Cc: Subject: g4u option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:17:00 -0000 SGkgYWxsLA0KDQpJJ20gdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGZpZ3VyZSBvdXQgLGlmIHBvc3NpYmxlLCBob3cgdG8g Z2V0IGc0dSB0byBvbmx5IGNsb25lIGRhdGEsDQppLmUuDQpJIGhhdmUgYW4gODAgZ2lnIGRyaXZl ICBidXQgbXkgT1MgYW5kIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9ucyBvbmx5IGNvbWUgdG8gYWJvdXQgNmdpZ3MNCnRo YXTigJlzIHdoYXQgSSB3YW50IHRvIGNsb25lIHRvIHRoZSBuZXcgZHJpdmUuDQoNCklzIHRoZXJl IGEgd2F5IHRvIGFjY29tcGxpc2ggdGhpcz8NCg0KwqANClRJQQ0KSg0K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 20:28:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D4B1065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:28:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618718FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941651E138; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAAKSVa4002290; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:28:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Jean-Paul Natola" Message-Id: <20091110212831.788385aa.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: g4u option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:28:34 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:00:56 -0500, "Jean-Paul Natola" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to figure out ,if possible, how to get g4u to only clone data, > i.e. > I have an 80 gig drive but my OS and applications only come to about 6gigs > that’s what I want to clone to the new drive. > > Is there a way to accomplish this? Yes: using the proper tool for this job. :-) In case of FreeBSD, dump + restore are excellent tools for the task you seem to be describing. Refer to the mailing list archive (or the Handbook) for examples how to use it - it's quite easy. Using dump and restore involves some other tools to prepare the target disk (e. g. fdisk, bsdlabel, newfs), but everything can easily be scripted so it runs without any human interaction. Sadly, I can't answer your question about "g4u" because I've never heared of it, and I don't see it in the ports collection, so my anser is relatively FreeBSD-specific (but those tools are the standard tools for such jobs in nearly all UNIX and Linux environments). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 20:33:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0E4106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s17.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s17.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256848FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP70 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s17.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:33:48 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP70.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:33:47 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F017622841 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:33:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:33:46 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEX+/v7++v6YOTrq8PCcuIX989UvOSj++v0BNCbpAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1dU8GOqzAMNKIoV1bvwD1i0ysqrHplIdBrVSX7ATSbd03VVvn9tQNtQy0hjAdn7LED4AAcPtWm9RV+MPSfxhBLx9ajd6X/ngB6/mTwnRSZua7i7Ca+0ctZKo4Qmz+JY13X6I3nFZBxIYW1PbgfQ5RP8g0XlltEWGf3cV03joYpRnFbvYDKbXjZlXyyhEZA4lI+cN3NaVXE4VKjSwTExO10eTEkkJVqIAD5z0nUBQJluQDRSQjcrBiHAJxZlAH5CUMBMC7OcJ4LMQNnxhZ1HYPscMc6J4UlWRMNwzOpCcAHKSICd1EDn83abdREIbXsHkD1OinP1aCUCOEVRaa1lMcvywUWdYgk13JQUpYNKmvXQ8Kw5ML9YI5h8SakctBc7E/IYuLhYd/zZIk+1gM1vNweQBvHE0j+oYah3sMqAytQYlZk6+ANaaawJdu3OFzYGMZ3iGpa3qMlq9ZH0VZTgrCtw/ngdYkEIIpSbP1bWQAdFdX9vocBdkH2qVjVmuMu3gI5rjs814EUdrCZgWlPaxZZ3RiLFUtr+ud0PXwp2dnQSNXgePt6AZpBj6UMJ7VQkzN4utVeaSW1Dhn/kblGrKeMvNGnzwX4zuEDarYz1KdPtR60Gul0Gued+515SJXhCsl+Tx/3kY/UDvicPll9mfu50t3tvQ/thZpJYgeuwdSKNJ6tCD98MCgoxLDaPxbwqqwPWaWiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 20:33:48.0155 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B2B04B0:01CA6245] Subject: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:33:49 -0000 I just switched from a regular mouse to a USB mouse wireless mouse. The mouse works fine except that the cut/paste middle button feature is inoperative. The scroll feature works correctly though. I removed all references to 'mouse' in the /etc/rc.conf file and rebooted; however, nothing changed. I then tried to change mouse port from the default: moused_port="/dev/psm0" to moused_port="/dev/usm0" That did no help either. Is there anyway to get this to work? -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Living in California is like living in a bowl of granola. What ain't flakes and nuts is fruits. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 20:57:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9171065670 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [83.235.67.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4598FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4466801.home.otenet.gr [94.71.104.97]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nAAKvAmc019327; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:57:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4AF9D3A7.1060806@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:57:11 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <1d7089c40911100809l3f71c819lf7febcf139407c8f@mail.gmail.com> <4AF9A10E.5090603@otenet.gr> <19193.49116.848405.783871@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19193.49116.848405.783871@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Henry Olyer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libjpeg.so.9 missing from my installation of FBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:57:13 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Manolis Kiagias writes: > > >> Where you performing an upgrade of an existing system? >> AFAIK libjpeg.so.* libraries get installed by the graphics/jpeg port. >> This was (fairly) recently upgraded, and if you did not follow the >> /usr/ports/UPDATING instructions carefully, you probably ended up with >> some dependent apps still linked to the old version of the library. >> >> In short, try the following (assuming you use portupgrade): >> >> portupgrade -fr graphics/jpeg >> > > graphics/jpeg is a dependency for a _lot_ of ports. (100+ on > my system.) Were I in the OP's shoes, I'd run pkg_info -R to find > out which ones and feed the (edited) results through pkg_sort. > Otherwise I might find myself rebuilding something like OpenOffice > at an inopportune moment .... > > > Robert "thirty six hours and counting, tra-la" Huff > > I am afraid openoffice is indeed one of the packages linked to jpg.. In this case - and assuming this was caused by an improper upgrade of jpeg - maybe the OP could simply downgrade just the jpeg port to the previous version. The current version provides libjpeg.so.10 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 21:03:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C521065672 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83D78FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FE11E80A; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:03:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAAL3P1I002431; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:03:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:03:25 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20091110220325.865b20f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:03:27 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:33:46 -0500, Carmel wrote: > I just switched from a regular mouse to a USB mouse wireless mouse. > The mouse works fine except that the cut/paste middle button feature is > inoperative. The scroll feature works correctly though. I removed all > references to 'mouse' in the /etc/rc.conf file and rebooted; however, > nothing changed. have you first tried the obvious workaround for nonstandard mice with "not three" buttons, i. e. pressing the left and the right button together to emulate the middle button? If this works, there seems to be some misconfiguration. I'm not using wheel mice (nor am I using cordless mice), so I cant help much. I'm using the middle mouse button for cut / paste (click), and for the vertical scroll functionality (press + move). > I then tried to change mouse port from the default: > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" to moused_port="/dev/usm0" > > That did no help either. USB mice don't need to be setup via moused, as far as I remember. Just comment out the moused_* entries in the /etc/rc.conf file. > Is there anyway to get this to work? You could try to set it explicitely in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Protocol" "Auto" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" Option "EmulateWheel" Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2" EndSection The buttons are 1 and 3 for left and right, 2 should be the middle one, 4 and 5 are up / down of the wheel. You can always use the xev program to check what actually happens when you use the different mouse buttons. If you're relying on HAL and DBUS, well, ... :-) I think there must be some kind of workaround to make things work again with HAL that worked before with X, such as special settings for mice. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 21:25:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0221D106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38E8FC1B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so504894fxm.3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=XwN/+iHPRsZIhVGHpqidzh3zTOwBrOWKymP0C89vE0M=; b=bR3j2sbZFyalFUDtF++N6RQEXsh8xvaQHqje4pflWegHH8i8e2bZvsQVTzLvLCj4Dj u2DDD7QARP8mJt8yGLpWRBmyCVPrRJRLok4zY8UzEae5dpWyUIdTvFYF7+eNXNTLeJg8 kYDmgHPoiVfTA4WW/Utf8D9thXASo+OU2lPWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=k1O0gaAQzctuzM89MxLZvGZgWksfaC6UWruAdXi2dZ+vZuec4HdTXEEZLbRN6OxGmi upjoYnFcrplwIwiGOI9bO6xREiGZjrB3kwKszVI6K2gIovWb3s0y72cQ8bzIQOObEy6b P1CsdQ+pN+da4zPTAudfOfWYMpmmvT7P+FmR8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.34 with SMTP id n34mr61954hbn.64.1257888301135; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090810211501.85db8d0f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090810120715.GA4044@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20090810211501.85db8d0f.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Eitan Adler Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:24:41 +0200 Message-ID: To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Ewald Jenisch , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: icewm - error during portupgrade / compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:25:03 -0000 Hey, I'm the maintainer for x11-wm/icewm. Could you tell me if add the port devel/gnome-vfs helps? And could you tell me what the output of make showconfig is for icewm? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 21:27:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6363D106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liontaur@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB13F8FC23 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so106894eyd.9 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:27:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RAqG6ES/3t4qAV4Qra2auL3LC8XPrhlJwcoPBIkDbpU=; b=NWqWMpBKAnNAn9bEzPpm9CEGDp+76k7ooEL0dI3r90NVnuoy6laEDajeTzau7XgdHc Q+uQvzrxnoVH02IRVaMR+poaBsvMC4MmBlGI1x5jM7pG/W4qSElixF3oSFBFmTHYf909 0IGLtttYb9IR4fiIHmF77mshZYxBaFbGlOzf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NBqcv38l3WazPx6IAb1oL9MNZodeKeWshmj0wollCC/zujzskoX4+49QyzuoRF2ALK Gcuqs+fTrZad95ZdiYIPT6cuPo60ruhXsNejo9gmswi26TfnjFdi3LJHOPiwg9W5gP3L auLY7o8S2sm0zPqSoykX6fOlBfDOoz+4vFK0w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.135 with SMTP id e7mr196674wef.34.1257886518843; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:55:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:55:18 -0800 Message-ID: From: Liontaur To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: g4u option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:27:28 -0000 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Jean-Paul Natola < jnatola@familycareintl.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to figure out ,if possible, how to get g4u to only clone data, > i.e. > I have an 80 gig drive but my OS and applications only come to about 6gi= gs > that=92s what I want to clone to the new drive. > > Is there a way to accomplish this? > > > TIA > J > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > g4u does partitions so if the data is on a separate partition from the OS then yes. If everything is on one partition then you'll have to copy the whole thing with g4u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 21:56:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD33106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f202.google.com (mail-pz0-f202.google.com [209.85.222.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668528FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk40 with SMTP id 40so296602pzk.7 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:56:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vBfjuJJ76asN5HUaOQ16LXiTI4Ksz5nT/R3capTV0aI=; b=JLqEAde5ZXfF3Kw5Vv1x9LpSndms872sW+FSP4QwIU9Nv1l0ZrcJLP8uCPpFj6ydpN XmTdqtZ7kb003gxGGvENj/hmKqRIEs0vSaphkBXpY4gvfigEsvgoYeGTOcLrxz70nSrV O9Iqcy5zsK3dncYJ7yHEKyXRslbgCAIUgkpzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xDGUW+mR5VK1pVPQ+dRnc9KyT8QSdU2vZ7Rd7KIUaioWD1UwwC1D5JGOmGlTcOaqke SNzjktruBfcegXOLqXy7DoEDEXrZfmAp+XEDQtZDzENh5o37JwY/J6kKVE1WS+/Li/Aq E5cFfhjeXSOvXOtNFzQtbDP6wsQvqAYcWuH9U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.249.17 with SMTP id w17mr53669wah.85.1257890214650; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:56:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:56:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:56:55 -0000 On 11/10/09, Carmel wrote: > I just switched from a regular mouse to a USB mouse wireless mouse. > The mouse works fine except that the cut/paste middle button feature is > inoperative. The scroll feature works correctly though. I removed all > references to 'mouse' in the /etc/rc.conf file and rebooted; however, > nothing changed. > > I then tried to change mouse port from the default: > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" to moused_port="/dev/usm0" You probably meant to put /dev/ums0 > > That did no help either. Is there anyway to get this to work? > > -- > Carmel > carmel_ny@hotmail.com > > |::::======= > |::::======= > |=========== > |=========== > | > > Living in California is like living in a bowl of granola. > What ain't flakes and nuts is fruits. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 22:00:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4C910656B7 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D5A8FC30 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.201] (c122-106-77-13.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.77.13]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAAM046J006052 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:06 +1100 Message-ID: <4AF9E264.4020307@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:04 +1100 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 8.0-RC3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:00:12 -0000 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.0/ shows that there is an RC3 ISO image available for download? How many RC's until the final release? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 22:06:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABF4106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neshort@yahoo.com) Received: from web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A5908FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78507 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2009 22:06:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257890764; bh=ThmO/igerX8S5MeCSu63pftABwKO6O+UrWGfBE8cBYk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1WCJNGIzYFwGnnsqeNDAhZyfKMRsHzHGdTZXRhUxbCKVaepW5zMOtBtO5J5Ye0ZOAc+ieOh5JQFWEMibwcdeABLy1IvuakkGIvUgGJ44U8ONyikeiEtdK6tLA57OIZ4ct1RPUT2ICkRDBYPWbWGzHDiIIquaiPla/4rtxrPsIPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J8sto0J3aNT4q9jNUScxO8vhHufUCpUyTPwi15PzcMtJWLLHIcm6ZExMdvZCJFqcELbYwTVpIyEjheQraHQE/VbMQQ55+SM4Qo57sMIxWX7gvXBEEEyIfqN02t8iI1KsyvYUqfx/Xl5c+HrDUTCAWZUDAjC2s9TbW8lpxNYx+WQ=; Message-ID: <316911.77454.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: s1DsJakVM1kSvooYZBS4Tv_FM2HLnIMJa40rK6.pnpF_2AsXPbrAx5_5ZryqmVk4e5Mhr.qfr8RhKhc14Okqg7OEZ.SgikAfSfOB95Pt_kLl1_Ykqm8DmD_ld6GULykZo2gER5yoYLfMCAsN6GxoQJaDNq5Kx3CH.iiM84G_PJayZ5ce5Cv7vNDyf75WYjqgDFt2wiw8rZVxKfG.W0Sr0mT.h99hMtfX1ZWs0VjJojyvJI7BbwgpY7ROYJQbBOWCFsxPFA6rHJBeNipMjDKNcWh_hY12wd2MkEQ0uXq6MClCzvceFFEF3yICE6PeQ8z4USSkBnb.xO3RE2BOwjk.RA-- Received: from [173.84.5.162] by web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:06:04 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:06:04 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Short To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: wdm and xdm problems - related to HAL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:06:05 -0000 So I got Xorg working with Hal. Wahoo. If I log in from a display manager I encounter some weird stuff. If I am using xdm and I log out of the window manager and then attempt to shut down the computer - by going to tty 0 and typing # halt -p - the disk syncs and then the shutdown freezes. If I am using wdm and I log out of the window manager and want to log back in, it takes my username but does not clear the text field for me to type a password. There is only one regular user on the system. FreeBSD 7.2 release. Blackbox wm. graphics: ATI mobility radeon Xpress 200m, 64MB - 128MB. Display: 1280x800. ====== Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. Matthew 24:28 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 22:13:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC796106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901698FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP34 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:13:14 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP34.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:13:14 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D9F322841 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:13:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:13:12 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091110220325.865b20f3.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20091110220325.865b20f3.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2009 22:13:14.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF5325C0:01CA6252] Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:13:16 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:03:25 +0100 Polytropon Polytropon replied: >On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:33:46 -0500, Carmel >wrote: >> I just switched from a regular mouse to a USB mouse wireless mouse. >> The mouse works fine except that the cut/paste middle button feature >> is inoperative. The scroll feature works correctly though. I removed >> all references to 'mouse' in the /etc/rc.conf file and rebooted; >> however, nothing changed. > >have you first tried the obvious workaround for nonstandard >mice with "not three" buttons, i. e. pressing the left and >the right button together to emulate the middle button? If >this works, there seems to be some misconfiguration. Negative, it does not work. >I'm not using wheel mice (nor am I using cordless mice), >so I cant help much. I'm using the middle mouse button >for cut / paste (click), and for the vertical scroll >functionality (press + move). > >> I then tried to change mouse port from the default: >> >> moused_port="/dev/psm0" to moused_port="/dev/usm0" >> >> That did no help either. > >USB mice don't need to be setup via moused, as far as I >remember. Just comment out the moused_* entries in the >/etc/rc.conf file. > >> Is there anyway to get this to work? > >You could try to set it explicitely in /etc/X11/xorg.conf: > >Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Protocol" "Auto" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" > Option "EmulateWheel" > Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2" >EndSection > >The buttons are 1 and 3 for left and right, 2 should be >the middle one, 4 and 5 are up / down of the wheel. You >can always use the xev program to check what actually >happens when you use the different mouse buttons. 'X' has nothing to do with it. It fails to work both in and out of 'X'. With the old mouse it worked fine. >If you're relying on HAL and DBUS, well, ... :-) I think >there must be some kind of workaround to make things work >again with HAL that worked before with X, such as special >settings for mice. Way more trouble than it is worth. I might just go back to the old mouse. Strangely enough, the new mouse works perfectly under Windows so I know it is not broken. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | Will Rogers never met you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 22:33:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24DA106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745EC8FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AA41E37B; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:33:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAAMXYYH003306; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:33:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:33:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Neil Short Message-Id: <20091110233334.7eb22144.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <316911.77454.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <316911.77454.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wdm and xdm problems - related to HAL? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:33:36 -0000 A little sidenote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:06:04 -0800 (PST), Neil Short wrote: > If I am using xdm and I log out of the window manager and then > attempt to shut down the computer - by going to tty 0 and typing > # halt -p - the disk syncs and then the shutdown freezes. You should use the shutdown command (instead of halt)a to make sure services are stopped correctly. The halt command does not take care of this topic. # shutdown -p now Does the freeze happen if you press the power button (which should initate the mechanism above), too? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 22:38:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234651065695 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76838FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070B51E6BA; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:38:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAAMcR58003357; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:38:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:38:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20091110233827.0411a38f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091110220325.865b20f3.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:38:30 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:13:12 -0500, Carmel wrote: > 'X' has nothing to do with it. It fails to work both in and out of 'X'. > With the old mouse it worked fine. The moused program offers a diagnostics mode: # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 Maybe you can try this and see what really happens when you press the buttons? The -i option is interesting, too. > Way more trouble than it is worth. I might just go back to the old > mouse. Strangely enough, the new mouse works perfectly under Windows so > I know it is not broken. If it does work there, but not in FreeBSD, it might have a strangely constructed firmware which justifies the statement that it is "broken by design"... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 22:51:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB1C106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524888FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nAAMQaKU099571; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:26:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nAAMQaKA099570; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:26:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:26:36 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Alex R Message-ID: <20091110222636.GA99487@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4AF9E264.4020307@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AF9E264.4020307@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 8.0-RC3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:51:08 -0000 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:00:04AM +1100, Alex R wrote: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/8.0/ shows > that there is an RC3 ISO image available for download? How many RC's > until the final release? Depends on what they find is needed to get the RELEASE ready to go. Check the following: The Release Engineering page. http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html And the wiki entry referenced in the Release Engineering page. http://wiki.freebsd.org/8.0TODO Looks like 8.0 is expected very soon. But, it will come when ready not on an MS fantasy schedule. It is all on the FreeBSD web side. http://www.freebsd.org/ ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:17:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E8F1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B5F8FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (localhost.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:::1]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE1657375; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:17:17 +0900 (KST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=izb.knu.ac.kr; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s= soyeomul; i=bh@izb.knu.ac.kr; bh=NFee8Cd6HmXdl9U9gTYqMAFRIWG/C6k 5/C2NBJK0qQc=; b=WCUZ0MdjDxRf4TVIn3iQEMyNDICTMxspFEE3pTdGPXK8Yup Xol8ZwsrzkGoHhFWJdeHEnuyG4dsZit4KfgeHKucJqxyq3qcQVhTwZ37YsredsBP MUuLJoijVr9SXF6Y6ijM4wBQdzSWfQ90yY7vNFw34qUPDOVb7znUPa8loYsw= Received: from rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f8:3::2]) by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C765736D; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:17:16 +0900 (KST) Received: from betla.izb.knu.ac.kr (betla.izb.knu.ac.kr [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:5f6:3::b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) by rhodo.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FD61CD6F; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:17:13 +0900 (KST) From: bh@izb.knu.ac.kr (=?utf-8?B?54mb57Kl?=) To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90911100726p2a291c32vc19d3eeed5608b4a@mail.gmail.com> X-Url: http://izb.knu.ac.kr/~bh/ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:17:00 +0900 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90911100726p2a291c32vc19d3eeed5608b4a@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:26:03 -0700") Message-ID: <861vk6km1f.fsf@betla.izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.95 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: x input method question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:17:20 -0000 Steve Franks writes: > [...] I'm actually an english speaker, so the nabi > www pages are a little hard to look at for help ;) http://nabi.kldp.net/english.html Sincerely, -- "All the members of my family have lived well the last ten years, without danger, without harm. I can't endanger them or their livelihoods out of greed." -- Vito Corleone, "Chapter 2", page 74 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:19:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471D7106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102FF8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:19:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 217 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 16246692 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:45 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:41 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:39 -0600 Thread-Topic: Renaming USB device Thread-Index: AcpiXEZ7NKePfY4GTKSOCErweBOzmA== Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:19:42 -0000 When a system has a USB drive present, the system typically names it /dev/d= a0. However, if the system has SATA drives hooked to an LSI controller, or = if the system has SCSI drives, the same drive prefix is used as is for the = USB drive. For our purposes, we'd like to separate the USB drive from the m= ain hard drives as far as the drive prefix is concerned, for example someth= ing like /dev/usb0 would be ideal. I realize this is something that likely = has to be done in the form of a kernel patch, but the question is can it be= easily done? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:23:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8D31065679 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb05.tieto.com (ebb05.tieto.com [131.207.168.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68518FC21 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from FIVLA-EXHUB02.eu.tieto.com ( [131.207.136.42]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ebb05.tieto.com (SMTP Mailer) with SMTP id E8.EC.02511.276E9FA4; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:17:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from Pickup by NLB-EXHUB.eu.tieto.com with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:17:15 +0000 X-AuditID: 83cfa824-b7c35ae0000009cf-9b-4af9e6726830 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Marcel Moolenaar In-Reply-To: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:36:54 -0800 Message-ID: <32916A26-60CF-457A-9F61-67DB295A4D9C@mac.com> References: <4AF7D802.7030401@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: "O. Hartmann" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: Errors-To: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAARGvaLg= Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installer: missing GEOM/gpart capabilities slicing disk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:23:42 -0000 On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:51 AM, O. Hartmann wrote: > Hello. > I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on > a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now > done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions > from a through h except b and c is now obsoleted. When dropping into > the installation process, I realised that the 8 partition boundary > is still present. sysinstall does not use gpart nor the kernel interface that GEOM_PART exposes. FYI, -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:34:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B2106566C for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ED28FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD4A1E435; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:34:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAANYUBv003567; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:34:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:34:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Steele Message-Id: <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:34:33 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:39 -0600, Peter Steele wrote: > When a system has a USB drive present, the system typically > names it /dev/da0. However, if the system has SATA drives > hooked to an LSI controller, or if the system has SCSI drives, > the same drive prefix is used as is for the USB drive. All direct-access media (DASD) is represented as a da device, even digital cameras may be. > For our purposes, we'd like to separate the USB drive from > the main hard drives as far as the drive prefix is concerned, > for example something like /dev/usb0 would be ideal. This prefix is already in use, see "man 4 usb". > I realize this is something that likely has to be done in the > form of a kernel patch, but the question is can it be easily > done? A kernel patch isn't needed and would surely break many working subsystems. An option is to use aliases through the means of /etc/devfs.conf, e. g. link da3 usbdisk0 or, if you want to enter the field of partition names in /etc/fstab, refer to the disks by their labels, so you don't need to know which da device a certain disk or USB stick actually is - it gives you independance from the order of detection by the system (first detected, first device name). If you could elaborate more on the goal you are seeking, other useful information could come from this list. At the moment, it's just my wild guessing. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:47:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0386106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505a.appriver.com [98.129.35.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8A98FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:47:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.15 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht02.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 217 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.15] (HELO ht02.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 16249386 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:47:38 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht02.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.15]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:47:39 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:47:38 -0600 Thread-Topic: Renaming USB device Thread-Index: AcpiXlvGRtIHHgXzTWS1poeSt2eRkAAAPlTw Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F772@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:47:40 -0000 >If you could elaborate more on the goal you are seeking, other useful info= rmation could come from this list. At the moment, it's just my wild guessin= g. :-) I have a bootable FreeBSD image on a USB stick that clones itself on the ta= rget system's hard drive, creating partitions and other configuration as de= fined in the cloning logic. The /etc/fstab on the USB image is hard coded t= o mount root (/) from /dev/da0s1a. However, other systems where the hard dr= ives use the same prefix as the USB stick, the fstab on the stick is incorr= ect (it would need to be /dev/da4s1a on systems with four SCSI drives since= those disks would be names da0-da3). So what we really want is a way to solve this problem--Have a generic boota= ble USB drive that doesn't need to have a custom fstab for different kinds = of systems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:47:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D990310656A3 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1738FC21 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (37.6.192-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.192.6.37]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 19769633321; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:47:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AAE97C0; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:47:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:47:45 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Message-ID: <20091111004745.6bb5c214@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E484A@www.fcimail.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jean-Paul Natola Subject: Re: g4u option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:47:51 -0000 Le Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:00:56 -0500, "Jean-Paul Natola" a =C3=A9crit : > I'm trying to figure out ,if possible, how to get g4u to only clone > data, i.e. > I have an 80 gig drive but my OS and applications only come to about > 6gigs that=E2=80=99s what I want to clone to the new drive. >=20 > Is there a way to accomplish this? g4u uses dd(1) to dump the disk or a partition, then it compresses datas with gzip. It copies *all*. You can save size by filling the filesystem of the partition with '0'. This is in the FAQ of g4u: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#shrinkimg g4u is based on NetBSD, not FreeBSD. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 10 23:53:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134F106566B for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DED8FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so608267ewy.43 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:53:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QFOf0Hbl91wSphT8UfzBjhrxsh2bdxvljBOf7kYOo78=; b=kJxxl43Maup8pNn41meLjgKC60c5v78/7iXNJrjrjBziJtDTFJOKp4CYwVpK3dP1cs ScqyLbpuTlHsUcw7RHSDLG//uSfGFuFHLcYnvPwP6oVE9azXkc4Jf9/y5u0f0E0GGuOy lIWkHT8RwpLKBeB0cgj4WboMssLkQNII8QkMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aBk34x+2nBJO0qx5XRGlI2ahX8cEVNpQ8f7PBrHrZTG7C2BeBK6uVrbeNNyNTnM7K5 FODV7qAL6nsSaQYizaL2u13uKrcv7JWrcEaPJZ3e6S78FQlwhoWR8M6CNQ8Bw2RxHhB8 g4kB9vPIDZkP3R2T9UGUqDp7BJ9y9WSTWEMTM= Received: by 10.216.89.149 with SMTP id c21mr241399wef.224.1257897196149; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2810659eyd.6.2009.11.10.15.53.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:53:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:52:46 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091110235246.4eefd728@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:53:17 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:39 -0600 Peter Steele wrote: > When a system has a USB drive present, the system typically names > it /dev/da0. However, if the system has SATA drives hooked to an LSI > controller, or if the system has SCSI drives, the same drive prefix > is used as is for the USB drive. For our purposes, we'd like to > separate the USB drive from the main hard drives as far as the drive > prefix is concerned, for example something like /dev/usb0 would be > ideal. I realize this is something that likely has to be done in the > form of a kernel patch, but the question is can it be easily done you can use glabel to give the devices unique names. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 00:22:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277A51065679 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA13E8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F43A3D6B8; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:22:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAB0MUg8005004; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:22:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:22:30 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Steele Message-Id: <20091111012230.ddd3acc5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F772@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F772@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:22:33 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:47:38 -0600, Peter Steele wrote: > I have a bootable FreeBSD image on a USB stick that clones > itself on the target system's hard drive, creating partitions > and other configuration as defined in the cloning logic. > The /etc/fstab on the USB image is hard coded to mount > root (/) from /dev/da0s1a. However, other systems where > the hard drives use the same prefix as the USB stick, > the fstab on the stick is incorrect (it would need to be > /dev/da4s1a on systems with four SCSI drives since those > disks would be names da0-da3). > > So what we really want is a way to solve this problem-- > Have a generic bootable USB drive that doesn't need to > have a custom fstab for different kinds of systems. In this case, labelling the USB stick would be a good chioce. The /etc/fstab entries then refer to those labels instead of device names (that could change). You can use generic labels as well as UFS labels here; even a reference to the UFSID would be possible, as well as independant from da detection order. For the target hard disk, which sometimes is ad (ATA disks), sometimes da (SCSI and SATA disks), a conditional based upon dmesg could be a good way to automate the process of finding out where to install to. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 00:42:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7215D1065693 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505c.appriver.com [98.129.35.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395938FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:42:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 217 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 16253721; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:26 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:28 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: Polytropon Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:25 -0600 Thread-Topic: Renaming USB device Thread-Index: AcpiZQ/mXTCG3bQURcSfoBY1ooGBEgAApuDg Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F786@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F772@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091111012230.ddd3acc5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091111012230.ddd3acc5.freebsd@edvax.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:42:29 -0000 >In this case, labelling the USB stick would be a good chioce. The /etc/fst= ab entries then refer to those labels instead of device names (that could c= hange). >You can use generic labels as well as UFS labels here; even a reference to= the UFSID would be possible, as well as independant from da detection orde= r. > >For the target hard disk, which sometimes is ad (ATA disks), sometimes da = (SCSI and SATA disks), a conditional based upon dmesg could be a good way > to automate the process of finding out where to install to. Okay, labeling it is. I'll check this option out. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 01:02:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFD51065679 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8298FC24 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAB12iSp001889; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAB12iIQ001886; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:44 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:02:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: Peter Steele , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:02:48 -0000 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:19:39 -0600, Peter Steele wrote: >> When a system has a USB drive present, the system typically >> names it /dev/da0. However, if the system has SATA drives >> hooked to an LSI controller, or if the system has SCSI drives, >> the same drive prefix is used as is for the USB drive. > >> I realize this is something that likely has to be done in the >> form of a kernel patch, but the question is can it be easily >> done? > > A kernel patch isn't needed and would surely break many working > subsystems. An option is to use aliases through the means of > /etc/devfs.conf, e. g. > > link da3 usbdisk0 That's fragile for dynamic devices; da3 might not be da3 next time it's attached. You can create a link on device detection through devd.conf using ln. It's also necessary to manually set owner and permissions, since devfs.conf settings aren't applied. Thread about that here: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=4340+0+archive/2009/freebsd-current/20091101.freebsd-current > or, if you want to enter the field of partition names in /etc/fstab, > refer to the disks by their labels, so you don't need to know > which da device a certain disk or USB stick actually is - it > gives you independance from the order of detection by the > system (first detected, first device name). Labels are an excellent solution in this case. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 01:39:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0243F106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:39:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from server505.appriver.com (server505e.appriver.com [98.129.35.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01568FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:39:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Policy: GLOBAL - maxiscale.com X-Primary: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-ALLOW: psteele@maxiscale.com ALLOWED X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES->UNITED STATES X-Note-Sending-IP: 98.129.23.14 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: ht01.exg5.exghost.com X-Note-WHTLIST: psteele@maxiscale.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: 112 113 114 115 119 120 131 217 X-Note: Mail Class: ALLOWEDSENDER X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [98.129.23.14] (HELO ht01.exg5.exghost.com) by server505.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13419779 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:39:38 -0600 Received: from mbx03.exg5.exghost.com ([169.254.1.164]) by ht01.exg5.exghost.com ([98.129.23.14]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:39:39 -0600 From: Peter Steele To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:39:37 -0600 Thread-Topic: Renaming USB device Thread-Index: AcpiarAXV9vl98H4RPu638fUIShQQAABACPA Message-ID: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F790@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> References: <7B9397B189EB6E46A5EE7B4C8A4BB7CB3394F75F@MBX03.exg5.exghost.com> <20091111003430.a95d79c8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Renaming USB device X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:39:41 -0000 >Labels are an excellent solution in this case. I've done some quick research on this and it will indeed solve the issue re= garding a generic fstab. I have a related question though. I want to take t= his a step further and convert the bootable USB stick into a bootable CD-RO= M image. This is a little trickier because the CD-ROM device is read-only a= nd I'm going to have to use some solution involving mfsroot. I checked out = the BSD Live CD and there isn't even a /etc/fstab on the disk, at least not= the /etc on the root of the CD. I tried to duplicate what I thought they w= ere doing but although I could got a bootable CD the system complained that= the file system was read-only, so clearly the mfsroot config wasn't set up= correctly. How exactly is this done? And ultimately there will be the same= issue with the /etc/fstab as far as providing a generic entry for the root= mount device. I don't think I can use glabel in this case. What's the best= option here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 08:29:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC2F106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9286D8FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so793271ywh.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:29:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OmjOC0BPj7O1561WVDC9VWBhf1J0797a0xgr/g7hwWE=; b=V+v/iPxdrF/c1bnLF0avadWN1BN5JYAt+2mtjZgoCyWelb60woDVK9RCyoc0XUVkst wPF9gzlZl0NFIBvSrN34kX3HLO0kcrM8TE7aV5F/iYBJx9ls2SOV5ylUkiDdg0JHdQyf KX7gJzyWczfM2/X+QECjoujo1BuTyeHq6uARU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JPL4v1t1PBboLt4dwukIUptcSowV9KuisaJrSLuC123STgD7mhv94LQ/bLBhmIn2io r2DdsxT2USanSFu7sbNEXs9tZ9+ez4ujYw67oahcE5kAWDaJArcUOjPvcvQDgUU5vCN8 b/vEYTJsxaFoXmL6uzn96U57t7FGyupxrrzEM= Received: by 10.150.25.30 with SMTP id 30mr2204155yby.83.1257926835985; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.17.10? (c-98-240-166-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.166.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm599126ywe.26.2009.11.11.00.07.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:07:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFA70B1.3000808@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:07:13 -0600 From: Jack Barnett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: NIC Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackbarnett@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:29:56 -0000 Is the RealTek RTL8112L PCIe gigabit LAN Controller support in FreeBSD 7.2? I could not find this in the hardware notes. Is it listed under another name? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 11:40:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABE6106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C376C8FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP22 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:40:12 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP22.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:40:12 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95B592283B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:40:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:40:11 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2009 11:40:12.0862 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAFABDE0:01CA62C3] Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:14 -0000 On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:38:27 +0100 Polytropon Polytropon replied: >On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:13:12 -0500, Carmel >wrote: >> 'X' has nothing to do with it. It fails to work both in and out of >> 'X'. With the old mouse it worked fine. > >The moused program offers a diagnostics mode: > > # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 Well, the results of that test does not exactly exhilarate me. # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy >Maybe you can try this and see what really happens when you >press the buttons? The -i option is interesting, too. > >> Way more trouble than it is worth. I might just go back to the old >> mouse. Strangely enough, the new mouse works perfectly under Windows >> so I know it is not broken. > >If it does work there, but not in FreeBSD, it might have a >strangely constructed firmware which justifies the statement >that it is "broken by design"... :-) A common problem in today's society. It reminds me of an old adage: Just like with unexploded bombs, Blame is best dealt with by passing it as quickly as possible to someone else. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | If everything on the road of life seems to be coming your way, you are in the wrong lane. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 13:42:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC4D10656A6 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brendan.kennedy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38438FC26 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so966151ywh.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:42:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pay6ZgSwbrSwU8wAmR7O7QviHfAmxN6Ik5RVv40qgb0=; b=iLNDAdUEELS15tMDk7rrgkuTDKi/JnyeXTsGkxW7KZGm/ooNHAY5NeWAzdgqxNmMD4 Wtr4vTuR7s8p6Thsh/AzHNechd2Lqg5k0zF82JIP2Bq8bhr9aKDew6jraHtqHK3n/lgj MuQ7JScSAr8C0HJ67sXR3bJGHIGnH3xm0esk0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=aH+i5ypd+GbQvulieoZNeKZFqh6R+DeOSfm1dhCc9risea3asYLt8/7otBYhgO+INF gTHYIXS7oPrQ2sMIvisO0CuRWy8cuz0Wkr1SblS3Ep2UStRZLIWwayIKJGVo/73cDtAo /l17EwyWrAu5rsIaMVvkY+vp5VYEcHVLKb3TA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.23.143 with SMTP id r15mr1583741ebb.94.1257945183287; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:13:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:13:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: Brendan Kennedy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Opencrypto patch/driver code upload X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:42:34 -0000 Hi All, I've a patch to opencrypto and I have a crypto driver that I would like to present for inclusion with the freebsd 7 release. Could you give me some pointers on getting that done? The opencrypto patch is relavent for FreeBSD 8 and 9 also... Some questions for the driver release: Does it necessarily have to compile if the harware API is not present? Our API is release with the dev board... Is it still possible to have new code added to FreeBSD 7, or is that now only accepting bug fixes? Any help/URLs etc is greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Brendan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 15:09:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F181065692 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from ostracod.unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAE78FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (75.69-246-213.ippool.namesco.net [213.246.69.75]) (authenticated bits=0) by ostracod.unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nABFAEE5019690 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:16 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4AFAD3B8.1000609@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:44 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ssh-agent and ordering of keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:50 -0000 Hi all, I've a bit of an annoying problem that hopefully someone here has delt with before. I have a large(ish) number of ssh keys as i like to keep things nicely seperated, I also use longish passphrases. To deal with long pass phrases I have started to use ssh-agent, which is working nicely but since i have a large number of keys and ssh-agent doesnt let you specify a particular key for a particular machine (I was using host and IdentiyFile lines in ~/.ssh/config before) I'm starting to hit a problem where I'm unable to log in to a machine as I'm hitting the MaxAuthTries value in sshd_config. I know i could just bung the MaxAuthTries value up to 20 or so on all my servers but I dont really want to, I'd rather a way of specifying which ssh key ssh-agent uses for a specific host, (like i said it ignores the IdentiyFile lines in the config file and ignores the -i switch to ssh itself.) Any ideas welcome. Thanks, Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 15:40:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03701065672 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF178FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8C9185BB0E9; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:47 +0100 (CET) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nABFKl8w004752; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:20:47 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Vincent Hoffman Message-ID: <20091111152047.GA4729@current.Sisis.de> References: <4AFAD3B8.1000609@unsane.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4AFAD3B8.1000609@unsane.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh-agent and ordering of keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:40:45 -0000 El día Wednesday, November 11, 2009 a las 03:09:44PM +0000, Vincent Hoffman escribió: > Hi all, > I've a bit of an annoying problem that hopefully someone > here has delt with before. I have a large(ish) number of ssh keys as i > like to keep things nicely seperated, I also use longish passphrases. To > deal with long pass phrases I have started to use ssh-agent, which is > working nicely but since i have a large number of keys and ssh-agent > doesnt let you specify a particular key for a particular machine (I was > using host and IdentiyFile lines in ~/.ssh/config before) I'm starting > to hit a problem where I'm unable to log in to a machine as I'm hitting > the MaxAuthTries value in sshd_config. I know i could just bung the > MaxAuthTries value up to 20 or so on all my servers but I dont really > want to, I'd rather a way of specifying which ssh key ssh-agent uses for > a specific host, (like i said it ignores the IdentiyFile lines in the > config file and ignores the -i switch to ssh itself.) Any ideas welcome. I have never used this, but you could start different ssh-agent(1) and loading the key(s) you want to use to one or the other and let ssh(1) ask the dedicated ssh-agent(1) for a given host by some shell wrapping (i.e. mapping the -i filename to the correct ssh-agent(1) socket); HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 16:08:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B95106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theultramage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7008FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1236954fxm.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:08:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pr9nU/CjbXm2zZbjxEloV+WzrnIjjWoopzgJX3dMUds=; b=nbgwr7QbbqWCJN/t1cgYFNedJmyFGRD28rVNfT3fHj0WOvrrm8OiIz223k8tway+Rn 6b2VYUGF9xQ1KCESd97HWg6Yt2J6H+fUPnjIFcQbOxhKjHhRmtKPG2NksGUM0aK2NKSR GLwUrrUA+FxRXznwIVBLiPKt1Hw6NBW9UvVzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ln8dEdBEifGARtgWk1GAlIu1gOAic2tl7jFJ5vBeZdXGFT7ZifLR3AOLLIAhtaOOt4 ZAZzMoZltp52xsj+HJY5gHdo0fRNKsz6hQbz5kUPWxBXmW7z0u2BnBxLlFPG7BnmjcC+ QrSSKqZZ3DdtDGmswg6HnrvEYmvmya2taedcI= Received: by 10.103.205.12 with SMTP id h12mr672524muq.108.1257955687094; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.31? ([217.75.87.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i5sm7749260mue.8.2009.11.11.08.08.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:08:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFAE13F.1040703@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:07:27 +0100 From: umage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AF57EB4.3070104@gmail.com> <20091107180710.GA1056@jason-helfmans-macbook-pro.local> <4AF5BB31.5090304@gmail.com> <4AF7620A.9010709@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF7620A.9010709@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: networking won't come back up until reboot after ISP outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:08:08 -0000 On 9. 11. 2009 1:27, umage wrote: > > When the connection goes down and comes back up it will take 5 minutes > > before my FreeBSD gateway box checks the lease and decides if a > renewal is > > in order. This is automatic. If I am sitting in front of my computer > and I > > want to speed this up I issue /etc/rc.d/netif restart on the gateway > and it > > will come up and be happy in about 10 seconds, rather than waiting > out the 5 > > minute time out. > > In my case the router does get the renewed ip, as I described earlier. > However, even after waiting 8+ hours, the system will not recover from > the outage properly (reason unknown). That's what this thread is all > about. When I started the system today, I found that again it had no connectivity. I did some checks and then found that 'natd' was not running. But this is not happening that frequently, and seems to only have started after the last system update. Could be some sort of race condition. Is there a logfile that natd writes to, so that I may investigate the reason why it is exiting? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 16:41:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BF7106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC03E8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so1145595yxe.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:41:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ojZ/38GDHE+Cecf1MCxig1i9I0xj7n2GBJEcD680dH4=; b=fXt0MWSTA65b1A7rDL38Yi1ah6hQRl0QmFtIUqWHf2c0txF/uunmpvXjcZmDYynLG1 0nKjwJlSmXh1rfDdJxqjG6xPufp2RVfWlvmYeWhgsBwF/9mfki6YiaKmFj+aalQjEkye 8sjpSh6l60WmOqfhhZySqZy7vh2Eu11YseF80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KrSQ5PBvN90xgEVx7LGPGP85gxfEnyEwjB/txwZkU0Im9dBSgFJWXIYtZhv4g7AFj1 zXLRudxaWnFEi7uapTRY6XaoS8W2bymwR2LIT3eXnq2tzcI5hIHcv5gZZoYTfkozqxcO rXTk88gR76thtOxd7UXxEtReipiGDG/yXVGeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.129 with SMTP id s1mr174719hba.45.1257957664278; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:41:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091111152047.GA4729@current.Sisis.de> References: <4AFAD3B8.1000609@unsane.co.uk> <20091111152047.GA4729@current.Sisis.de> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:41:04 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Vincent Hoffman Subject: Re: ssh-agent and ordering of keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:41:06 -0000 2009/11/11 Matthias Apitz > El d=EDa Wednesday, November 11, 2009 a las 03:09:44PM +0000, Vincent Hof= fman > escribi=F3: > > > Hi all, > > I've a bit of an annoying problem that hopefully someone > > here has delt with before. I have a large(ish) number of ssh keys as i > > like to keep things nicely seperated, I also use longish passphrases. T= o > > deal with long pass phrases I have started to use ssh-agent, which is > > working nicely but since i have a large number of keys and ssh-agent > > doesnt let you specify a particular key for a particular machine (I was > > using host and IdentiyFile lines in ~/.ssh/config before) I'm starting > > to hit a problem where I'm unable to log in to a machine as I'm hitting > > the MaxAuthTries value in sshd_config. I know i could just bung the > > MaxAuthTries value up to 20 or so on all my servers but I dont really > > want to, I'd rather a way of specifying which ssh key ssh-agent uses fo= r > > a specific host, (like i said it ignores the IdentiyFile lines in the > > config file and ignores the -i switch to ssh itself.) Any ideas welcome= . > > I have never used this, but you could start different ssh-agent(1) and > loading the key(s) you want to use to one or the other and let ssh(1) > ask the dedicated ssh-agent(1) for a given host by some shell wrapping > (i.e. mapping the -i filename to the correct ssh-agent(1) socket); > > HIH > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Im not sure why you have to use loads of different keys other than one of each type (rsa1, dsa etc). After all if your storing all the private keys i= n the same place then its not really more secure From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 17:00:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82071065670 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from konstantinos.pac@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474728FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so461129fga.13 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=TjuwbmGuafcnF0U61sGIGcxID5eeBEaq3DK6CPvTc2g=; b=nG+dqwWv4IpVrwHOVp9ciE2KHucc5EgWvS01aLT1u36CCxEOhG1akJPn/9n6AIMVC0 VTKLdxRpEPGxMxQOV/XVrNRp/xHLDo3j3xclktun2y0NpC9rQcndU0XtHsDKEA9wxtIA XSJNYW1FwzCpNhTpaeMITs3NORovEKvttAm30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=ene9GEAD8U78MhiFIoQq76vD8wLmDmn9QmaROahSMGWQFq3mg3xU3dB8kBlsAL/kBF LtwLmOxzr+0AiYRqYO9/oPqPVK/Xxbb0jPt1HdtwpKB/Rp7fQOO6+WEBZJkBraQkZDG5 LONfr+dRQl1of7r6x1vwtz5zkJD7aqf0i1Vko= Received: by 10.87.40.9 with SMTP id s9mr1313435fgj.11.1257958844127; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.5? (cust-132-30.on4.ontelecoms.gr [92.118.132.30]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm4981975fgb.7.2009.11.11.09.00.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:00:43 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) From: Konstantinos Pachnis In-Reply-To: <39B2B008-DF9C-49FB-B17B-B8A3E254D9B8@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:00:43 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9CADF814-A95D-4745-B461-568A4C97BF90@gmail.com> References: <39B2B008-DF9C-49FB-B17B-B8A3E254D9B8@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition 1.8.7 Apache / Passenger on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:00:45 -0000 This is happening because in freebsd the stack protector is enabled by = default. When you build ruby enterprise edition set to the CFLAGS / CXXFLAGS the = -fno-stack-protector parameter. =46rom a security perspective, I don't think that this is the best = solution.=20 On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I was trying to use Apache/Passenger with Ruby Enterprise Edition = 1.8.7 (both versions) on a FreeBSD 7.2 (i386 and x86_64), and Apache = reports the following error: >=20 > Apache/2.2.13 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.13 OpenSSL/0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.11 = with Suhosin-Patch Phusion_Passenger/2.2.5 configured -- resuming normal = operations > Fatal error 'Cannot allocate red zone for initial thread' at line 384 = in file /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_init.c (errno =3D 12) >=20 > Has anyone come across to that ? >=20 > Thanks in advance, > Konstantinos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 17:02:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A04106566C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jabidan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC2A8FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so576673qyk.7 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:02:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lY+lI3DDU7J/TY35l4Omml+reAA7fmiSijcpw/CSJaA=; b=npDfW/gt9cZ9ZwSSf2edpDGzdefav3TGtS1jiURFSff2IhddtqU5PMviBb0tBrencH TWECnFDiG4O5cqnOOs1AI3uLL2Q1WvktvGRBTRNEBIlRHDxH9FvWbpNwiWDNsLYXxstV cA8TGKAQ4nEynbynG2WP1qfEtBv2GbYr3jEoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=PhsFQk5+LpCADt/tMVvabof/3IolAWrbo256ZPqSzhwQ8FDgUuzHslUSnFVZQrulN8 N2wxQ9eD6CQVKcCs5MC39SfH+tZQ40+KlmmPY50RlXvVI3lWqhxgzwbo7wUsK3M996La tkQXHuYAXUHc5UoTjU+2uJNj5IbuU6RwO7Mlo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.141.142 with SMTP id c14mr189973hba.1.1257958955370; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:02:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:02:35 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:02:38 -0000 Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi box and i left a partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and installed the boot mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 pressed? how can I make the system boots both? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 17:11:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4039B106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053628FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nABH90pl006004; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nABH904d006003; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:00 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Abidan Message-ID: <20091111170900.GA5972@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:11:13 -0000 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02:35AM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi box and i left a > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and installed the boot > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 pressed? how can > I make the system boots both? Not sure all of what you see, but if you literally mean that when you press F1 it always boots MS-Win, that is probably correct. You will have to press F2 or maybe F3 (depending in which slice you installed FreeBSD) to boot FreeBSD. I suspect you mean something a little different, but if so, please elaborate. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 17:15:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2F9106566C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:15:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570B48FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so1186364ywh.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:15:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+jnH1XJGgGvmodYyZZjcYoV4MSbLZSbQ1fn1wAfvq+A=; b=xtq7z/0Amx6bZVq6quIFcw6OO6INZqIYJ6HzOsH6BXiFNJadEZ7R1IOIZuLvhBiqls kF7uTZG6Ur6CLlSuIWzrzwqLd6JvXFn3ZqxzbieoApZqQNwvCb8IzxVvOTVKFcp6ySte MQzp+ePzbtigHQQMZaxBTYpUn0p2xSw/V9Xnk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ATo+HOWl8xf6AOlRi0z8FVh2SXmAkvZzycUeKdJAVdn5fcjanBC9YFnyJkT5hjJXER ZaCaqbjnkfBh7f52Zr0zRW2crTjfpCRHCNjbdnTaHpHWgN+jfxhQj76DQrKdFIl1mmzs Uf8aI1ojzH/K0F6KakaD2bfySek1OPwe5vFWc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr2000128ybg.130.1257959343995; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:09:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:09:03 -0600 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:15:46 -0000 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Jes=FAs Abidan wrote: > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi box and i left= a > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and installed the bo= ot > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 pressed? how = can > I make the system boots both? What do you mean "make the system boot both?" At the same time? That's not going to happen. Isn't F1 the option for dos/windows? If so, consider your other options . . . one should be FreeBSD (assuming you did the install correctly) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 17:25:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C431065672 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2A68FC1F for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF0B38E4E for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-200-187.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.200.187]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8A63032D for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1N8GwH-0003hJ-00 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:25:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:25:01 -0500 From: stan To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: Free BSD Questions list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 12:21:19 up 42 days, 19:34, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.08, 0.05 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: 7.2-STABLE X mouse & keyboard issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:25:03 -0000 I just built a brand new 7.2 STABLE machine, and the xorg package. startx brings up a nice screen, but neither the mouse, nor the keyboard (both USB) function in X. I have not created a /etx/X11/ config file yet. Do I need to do so? If so, what;s the best way? -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 18:52:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9E51065701 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1087D8FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nABIobCq006561 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:50:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nABIobQF006560 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:50:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Resent-Message-Id: <200911111850.nABIobQF006560@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Received: from mx12.mail.msu.edu (mx12.mail.msu.edu [35.9.75.82]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nABIno7k006549 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=msu.edu; s=mail; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References: Mime-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=4ofx5a0LxU86AorEvKEULH1yRWqmYsFmVPrETdtX72s=; b=dySWWtvBbWqdp GbhRXGVUBJIdE1NCjDtBX91EmZtt8DO6edw2AzHp6vt5dpv4L2+xHNmjeIdYGfFj XuIdaf51JkOwHb8cKcx6l/G5q17zbeYtm3cqnzDWuj5ZPc/Rxuec8bRVOlOecntR TaGHkxW0dYvv6n/RvMfvvG9dPAdBBI= Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu ([35.8.1.43]) by mx12.mail.msu.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69 #1) id 1N8IIQ-000546-84 for jerrymc@msu.edu; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:51:58 -0500 Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nABInjPu006546; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nABInj8R006545; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:45 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Abidan Message-ID: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111170900.GA5972@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gizmo.acns.msu.edu id nABInjPu006546 X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Report: All incoming messages to mail.msu.edu are analyzed for typical spam characteristics. See http://techbase.msu.edu/article.asp?id=11475 for additional report information. Content preview: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:27:13PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > i pressed f2 for freebsd and nothing happens... i pressed f1 for windows. > > I install freebsd on the first partition and now it occurs the viceversa, i > cannot boot windows, does it have to be something with the order of the > partitions? i mean primary, logical o something like this? 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MS-Win should optimally be installed on the first primary partition. This is called 'slice 1' by FreeBSD. Then FreeBSD should be installed on slice 2. If the slices are not to your liking, then you may need to use some utility such as Parition Magic 7 (I had trouble with PM-8) or gparted to define the primary partitions/slices before you do any of the installs. But, still, MS-Win should be installed first and go in the first slice and FreeBSD later in another slice. That is because MS-Win doesn't play very well if installed later and/or in a different slice. When you install FreeBSD (after the MS-Win install) select installing the FreeBSD MBR (not none or default minimum). It should be smart enough to find both. I have heard some complaints about MS-Vista and having to do some other monkeying around to get an MBR to handle it correctly, but I don't know details and I do not (lucky me) have any Vista machines to joust with. ////jerry > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02:35AM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi box and i left > > a > > > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and installed the > > boot > > > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 pressed? how > > can > > > I make the system boots both? > > > > Not sure all of what you see, but if you literally mean that when > > you press F1 it always boots MS-Win, that is probably correct. > > You will have to press F2 or maybe F3 (depending in which slice you > > installed FreeBSD) to boot FreeBSD. > > > > I suspect you mean something a little different, but if so, > > please elaborate. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 19:03:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFD01065676 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8758D8FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MR-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KSY000YUKYENQ70@VL-MR-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:03:50 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4AFB0A97.6040004@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:03:51 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: advice on setting up new site X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:03:51 -0000 Hi guys, I appreciate the help you have given me in the past and present... 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Let me know if you're interested and we can discuss methods of working and payment... etc. 2. I would appreciate some suggestions about Unix programs that could be applicable to meet our needs. I look forward to hearing from from you :-) Questions are welcome ... so are investors ;-) PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 19:11:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2980106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C18C8FC08 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2009 18:44:31 -0000 Received: from 104-208.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl (EHLO Rena.FStaals.LAN) [88.159.208.104] by mail.gmx.net (mp069) with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 19:44:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #25365336 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19F0Ed1enRFeFfa6KYrB1sp0KsHS7WM+tx7VYbgVO gS/Mw5KsRZ9Ue+ Message-ID: <4AFB0601.6020902@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:44:17 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090928) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 Cc: Subject: FFTW + jna + java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:11:13 -0000 Hey everyone, I'm trying to run a java application which uses JNA to use the native FFTW libraries. The application was given as a netbeans project which was configured for use in Windows. I changed the paths to the windows libraries to the FreeBSD versions. However when I try to start the application from within netbeans it crashes with the following error message: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/librfftw.so: Undefined symbol "fftwnd_create_plan_aux" Has anyone an idea how to fix this ? I'm running FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 on amd64 with jdk16, fftw, and jogl installed from ports. I downloaded the jna.jar from the jna website ; FreeBSD Rena.FStaals.LAN 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Mon Nov 2 13:45:35 CET 2009 root@Rena.FStaals.LAN:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL amd64 frank@Rena# uname -a FreeBSD Rena.FStaals.LAN 8.0-RC1 FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 #0: Mon Nov 2 13:45:35 CET 2009 root@Rena.FStaals.LAN:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RENAKERNEL amd64 frank@Rena# pkg_info -Ex jdk diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_6 jdk-1.6.0.3p4_12 frank@Rena# pkg_info -Ex fftw fftw-2.1.5_6 fftw3-3.2.2_1 frank@Rena# pkg_info -Ex jogl jogl-1.1.1 jna.jar version: 3.2.3 downloaded from https://jna.dev.java.net/ The VM-arguments when starting the application : -Djna.library.path=/usr/local/lib -Djava.libary.path=/usr/local/lib Anyone an idea what could be causing this, and/or how to fix it ? -- - Frank -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 19:38:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1D410656A3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A258FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so969720pwj.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:38:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fi5i3Wl5JSNQi/igY1JinVZtNNb5MxejXtAOgF52mCo=; b=r2fgALSk7BUMVG9NfWW259HIOC5S5/Y2ubrjYD8ggHPgpmp72UZjR8QHh5iVGSb0qA 3ImZE/I0qnM18IOKiOn6b/lSExO6XimI2d+RLj7Ujqm8aZMoQJGIwO8IZwNrsWXnb1+R Y8wHO4O3I7gm+Z6rFV2yoAp9bu9OvDr0ZGJuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QrEHYk0JlpiQpAmt8ZyIF0vb3+Z3frQ8FxDbrX28WV+TA2syGX8V8F9qyfFZt3AzuO KxzIOA8gTbwldHk/+2krstAOnB7pimEvVyePsEn9m/FGM7jsriV0SkRIkZW+SgAbluYw NeNuigDDBCE+n/l73L9bgjv8bcIxLisPJQD/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.19.30 with SMTP id 30mr3982638was.134.1257968314331; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:38:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> References: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:38:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: 7.2-STABLE X mouse & keyboard issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:38:35 -0000 On 11/11/09, stan wrote: > I just built a brand new 7.2 STABLE machine, and the xorg package. startx > brings up a nice screen, but neither the mouse, nor the keyboard (both USB) > function in X. > > I have not created a /etx/X11/ config file yet. Do I need to do so? If so, > what;s the best way? did you enable hald, and dbus? did you start them? did you remove hal support from xorg? Please elaborate your environment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 19:55:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40310106566C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF35A8FC20 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nABJqlBX006922; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:52:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nABJqlrp006921; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:52:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:52:47 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Abidan Message-ID: <20091111195247.GA6824@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111170900.GA5972@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:55:00 -0000 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:22:58PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > ok. the slices in freebsd are little tricky, i will check my installation > and send some feedback later. ?? FreeBSD slices are pretty straight forward. They are just the name of the 4 primary divisions of a disk - limited to 4 by BIOS. MS just calls them primary partitions instead of slices. The major difference is how they might be subdivided. MS does what it calls logical partitions. FreeBSD subdivisions are just called partitions. The fdisk(8) utility creates slices (or primary partitions in MS, though the FreeBSD fdisk is not very conversant with some of the new MS types so you may be better off using something else to create primary partitions/slices if other OSen are being accomodated). Slices (or primary partitions) are identified by numbers 1..4. The bsdlabel(8) utility in FreeBSD is what subdivides a slice in to partitions. It used to be that it was limited to 7 real partitions identified with letters a..h with the letter 'c' reserved to describe the whole slice and not usable as a real partition. Partition 'a' is normally root mounted as '/' and partition 'b' is used as swap. These two (a & b) are conventions and not enforced, except that some software may make these assumptions. My understanding is that the newest versions of FreeBSD (8.0) modify or remove the limit and you can have letters above 'h' and thus more subdivisions in a slice, but I haven't tried that yet. In FreeBSD, to create a filesystem from a partition, you run newfs(8) on it. ////jerry > > Thanks a lot. > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:27:13PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > i pressed f2 for freebsd and nothing happens... i pressed f1 for windows. > > > > > > I install freebsd on the first partition and now it occurs the viceversa, > > i > > > cannot boot windows, does it have to be something with the order of the > > > partitions? i mean primary, logical o something like this? > > > > MS-Win should optimally be installed on the first primary partition. > > This is called 'slice 1' by FreeBSD. Then FreeBSD should be installed > > on slice 2. > > > > If the slices are not to your liking, then you may need to use some > > utility such as Parition Magic 7 (I had trouble with PM-8) or gparted > > to define the primary partitions/slices before you do any of the installs. > > But, still, MS-Win should be installed first and go in the first slice > > and FreeBSD later in another slice. That is because MS-Win doesn't play > > very well if installed later and/or in a different slice. > > > > When you install FreeBSD (after the MS-Win install) select installing > > the FreeBSD MBR (not none or default minimum). It should be smart > > enough to find both. > > > > I have heard some complaints about MS-Vista and having to do some > > other monkeying around to get an MBR to handle it correctly, but I > > don't know details and I do not (lucky me) have any Vista machines > > to joust with. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02:35AM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi box and i > > left > > > > a > > > > > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and installed > > the > > > > boot > > > > > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 pressed? > > how > > > > can > > > > > I make the system boots both? > > > > > > > > Not sure all of what you see, but if you literally mean that when > > > > you press F1 it always boots MS-Win, that is probably correct. > > > > You will have to press F2 or maybe F3 (depending in which slice you > > > > installed FreeBSD) to boot FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > I suspect you mean something a little different, but if so, > > > > please elaborate. > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:04:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C371065670 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096FD8FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id nABK40Tv083887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:04:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nABK3xT1079186 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:03:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nABK3xUM079154; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:03:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:03:59 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Frank Staals Message-ID: <20091111200359.GH89052@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4AFB0601.6020902@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AFB0601.6020902@gmx.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:04:00 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FFTW + jna + java X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:04:01 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 11), Frank Staals said: > > I'm trying to run a java application which uses JNA to use the native FFTW > libraries. The application was given as a netbeans project which was > configured for use in Windows. I changed the paths to the windows > libraries to the FreeBSD versions. However when I try to start the > application from within netbeans it crashes with the following error > message: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/librfftw.so: Undefined symbol > "fftwnd_create_plan_aux" That symbol is defined in libfftw.so; it looks like the librfftw.so builder forgot to add a link dependency to fftw (if you run "ldd /usr/local/lib/librfftw.so", you can see there are dependencies on libc and libm, but not fftw). Depending on how jna access shared libraries, you might be able to work around it by having jna load the fftw library before rfftw. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:07:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21F11065670 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norstar39@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B34C8FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so1355306yxe.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQh+OfUUJVGcBOtvjq7JlrRE43TK1k4SzLXB3KRBshM=; b=T3la4JfFqEuE3yA1A43mz6GzbM3+TSEy5rnZDf1Rnd14zh1lzF4SFaztPYAMc0gKTG 187qGywGjZ9MV8iBHD9lQ04kNE6kH0WIH3OcH8xJ3FedReYj2aSkjiHmol/blwiIN2U/ IO0wKWneeyirywk1HALfnxA8mfWPrCu0ZcoiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oN4td0BEhlE3shejx9OXv2c9AKM0Za7eA9mEzh/gbGjjs06xr9qvLcuaBmmGUMX2B8 gmFhK5W2sUXpdLP5GQSMW3+4nxYHmkstT7qzp98SeVpTIXm82asnOhWwZrVyzZ42ay7V pEhHZf3i+JF3qgHFvy8yoruzcBIObFZxKqjJ8= Received: by 10.101.27.20 with SMTP id e20mr1000420anj.137.1257968625170; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.103? (pool-96-254-203-152.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.203.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm952206yxg.10.2009.11.11.11.43.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:43:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:43:21 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:07:07 -0000 I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program on FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i get nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: section .data hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa hbytes equ $ - hello section .text global _start _start: push dword hbytes push dword hello push dword 1 mov eax,0x4 int 0x80 add esp,12 push dword 0 mov eax,0x1 int 0x80 nasm -f elf -o hello1s.o hello1.s ld -s -o hello1s hello1s.o ./hello1s prints nothing. What is wrong here? It should print "hello world". Thanks in advance for your help, it is greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:23:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC1310656A6 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FE48FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1N8JiU-00009f-Kx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:22:58 +0100 Received: from pool-71-166-134-75.washdc.east.verizon.net ([71.166.134.75]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:22:58 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-71-166-134-75.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:22:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:23:33 -0500 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <4AF57EB4.3070104@gmail.com> <20091107180710.GA1056@jason-helfmans-macbook-pro.local> <4AF5BB31.5090304@gmail.com> <4AF7620A.9010709@gmail.com> <4AFAE13F.1040703@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-166-134-75.washdc.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: networking won't come back up until reboot after ISP outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:02 -0000 umage wrote: [snip] >> In my case the router does get the renewed ip, as I described earlier. >> However, even after waiting 8+ hours, the system will not recover from >> the outage properly (reason unknown). That's what this thread is all >> about. > When I started the system today, I found that again it had no > connectivity. I did some checks and then found that 'natd' was not > running. But this is not happening that frequently, and seems to only > have started after the last system update. Could be some sort of race > condition. Is there a logfile that natd writes to, so that I may > investigate the reason why it is exiting? My first gut instinct about your problem was to blame dhclient first. But no NATD would definitely be a problem. I am assuming we are talking about IPFW and NATD here, and it has been many years since I've used it. I migrated to IPFILTER and then on to PF quite some time ago. Most logging related to IPFW is already present, but IIRC to log NATD you need to turn it on, and possibly configure it in syslog.conf should you desire the output somewhere other than /var/log/alias.log. Keep in mind there are two ways to pass options. You can use something like natd_flags="-l" in /etc/rc.conf. Man natd will provide a list. The second method is to place the options in a file such as natd.conf and pull them in like natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf". I looked in my notes and here is a snippet from an old /etc/rc.conf: natd_enable="YES" natd_interface="ppp0" natd_flags="-f /etc/natd.conf" My /etc/natd.conf: interface ppp0 use_sockets yes same_ports yes dynamic yes You could add a 'log yes' line here; it does the same as the -l described above. Note that you might need the 'dynamic yes' switch for an interface that changes. In my case I was using it for a ppp dial-up connection, change interface as needed. Sounds like you are narrowing down the culprit(s). Also note that it could possibly be a timing issue related to the order things start up. If the NATD is attempting to start before the interface has come up it will die. Shouldn't happen, but... YMMV -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:23:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A4D1065693 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f119.google.com (mail-yw0-f119.google.com [209.85.211.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207F38FC26 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh17 with SMTP id 17so163660ywh.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:23:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQh+OfUUJVGcBOtvjq7JlrRE43TK1k4SzLXB3KRBshM=; b=S2sII+2OTz7Nn57HgqovancRcLOGOQNOCqMxG0i03aR9eeKoq6Q0j5JnYrCwQQVMyG n8UQQpdMQPmSIuR5q9ujxRrHupS7ZRpipzIYdwhJoK9bohrXtqNGdz8hyQ05994aHLVd mpCKq89tN57emgJz1yecrIxStSA9EycbSN8mE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BAb2a5nwyfn8zxgdgrawSDnMqXDMOh+c5Q5qQCMGYpEmLn44/tXrn60Zx3QiIue4CV IKh24zafIJfhw1B1zpnRFQbALWciczsoZSrN3Um3nE9Whh0wLCl0K5c538ZpWgF39tO7 5ZGjsYhRf8DufGMWN2DWJcFA/UU+L5JEAlGf8= Received: by 10.150.23.10 with SMTP id 10mr3459243ybw.329.1257970148388; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.103? (pool-96-254-203-152.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.203.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm977856gxk.11.2009.11.11.12.09.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFB19CC.9090407@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:08:44 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problems with freebsd assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:23:27 -0000 I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program on FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i get nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: section .data hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa hbytes equ $ - hello section .text global _start _start: push dword hbytes push dword hello push dword 1 mov eax,0x4 int 0x80 add esp,12 push dword 0 mov eax,0x1 int 0x80 nasm -f elf -o hello1s.o hello1.s ld -s -o hello1s hello1s.o ./hello1s prints nothing. What is wrong here? It should print "hello world". Thanks in advance for your help, it is greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 19:01:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424B7106566C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jason.andrew.fried@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5208FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1427690fxm.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:01:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Eeq575c1dfq51OLqIMR3Yw7sHg/GxJxpJzD3cdeW9OU=; b=kfiIotdof7vpBsHlatoQDeOLUmTScG+1kMAEpiyZqlSYR7qummYTgymemUtOOtB8UH YAj2up400sEQX2PpKGpUrv7GQIBb1U2uaXKDqtnHKLzcFgL6DiCbFtAVTyYbzpR/y1SW r9UlF7gifgbtakIPjFIakdYDQFVjpmfHOPP2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=DFoZhyiUUjirtxIXTPNIjrtAkffuvgE/OWEi70IJ36ujY3fTTQxQr/mcK1BMJGTJi2 9Db/9zjOrrXjxCZG16DRi3iGG4XEQr9pZS6upZQHiK0Mw09fCXRBFsU7J725rdCi6Nf1 IhmFu+yukQYGgGXCWdRFVqX/cLN3w7eCGPExk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jason.andrew.fried@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.34.75 with SMTP id k11mr1922938bkd.105.1257964555973; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:35:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:35:55 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4baba1cd07ef2fff Message-ID: <5b32573f0911111035k48646b2bo7c1c7c5c9af0c22d@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Fried To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:24:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Can I prevent freebsd-update from installing kernel debug files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:59 -0000 I have a fairly old install and not much room on my ROOT is there a way to prevent freebsd-update from installing ".symbols" files. Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:34:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664161065696 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6778FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1529308fxm.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:34:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RqTYA2OE1wCWtnHKsPDC+CARTXwiVc3fSW9kgrKrku0=; b=WZNRfhCmoRoA7Mp/q+qjmXlGhLxPiDd35B3lZWl+Hl0FZ96x4Fx1g87SWEinZeRxeA TTlH7gVnnNLi4AMZ+ORDEFbt2QQvPW7fdC+hbVBcwItexNhPhxtJIBzdlKJe8Um/EOSH +R5QdcY4bFWNVWJMckKn4y7ZZxfcKhTZexL4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SM+CkIqy/fyMDbn1YR+Mu852PWNoXBCDLkQ3e/GyyfozFjkBmshgLdErowXmjUBZmd 8eAtm+v+6suXARpUfySWSf0Xjo6d1t+AENV6eJZlay88cbSGP/XWjUrkCfVQTeV1eL1F DahUrFxGy9GdV2BG52H3dZS5FjUN37QZhBfys= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.25.82 with SMTP id y18mr1963225bkb.137.1257971648032; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:34:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111170900.GA5972@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:33:47 +0000 Message-ID: To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:09 -0000 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister wrote: >=A0That is because MS-Win doesn't play > very well if installed later and/or in a different slice. Windows behaves fine for me whatever slice it's installed in. What IS important is that it's installed first, as you said before. You can choose it to go wherever you like. By the way, please don't say win to refer to Windows; as RMS has said many = times '[If] you call Windows a "win", you are praising it. If you don't want to praise Windows, it's better not to call it a "win".' [1] If you must abbreviate it, try w32, or leave off MS- and just write Windows [1] http://markmail.org/message/ncyme3djyujyre6u#query:stallman%20windows%2= 0don%27t%20call%20win32+page:1+mid:ncyme3djyujyre6u+state:results --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 20:56:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94223106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mihai.dontu@gmail.com) Received: from mail.bitdefender.com (mail.bitdefender.com [91.199.104.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22128FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10561 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 22:29:25 +0200 Received: from mdontu-dell.dsd.ro (HELO mdontu-dell.localnet) (mdontu@bitdefender.com@10.10.14.115) by mail.bitdefender.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 22:29:24 +0200 From: Mihai =?utf-8?q?Don=C8=9Bu?= Organization: Home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:29:24 +0200 References: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200911112229.24468.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> X-BitDefender-Scanner: Clean, Agent: BitDefender qmail 3.0.2 on elfie.dsd.hq, sigver: 7.28875 X-BitDefender-Spam: No (533) X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: v1, build 2.8.80.80932, bayes score: 500(0), pbayes score: 241(0), neunet score: 533(533), flags: [NN_VALID_REPLY; NN_EXEC_H_YAHOO_AND_GMAIL_NO_DOMAIN_KEY], total: 533(775) Cc: David Jackson Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:56:07 -0000 On Wednesday 11 November 2009 21:43:21 David Jackson wrote: > I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program on > FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on > FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i get > nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: > > section .data > hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa > hbytes equ $ - hello > > section .text > global _start > _start: > push dword hbytes > push dword hello > push dword 1 > mov eax,0x4 > int 0x80 > add esp,12 > > push dword 0 > mov eax,0x1 > int 0x80 > > nasm -f elf -o hello1s.o hello1.s > ld -s -o hello1s hello1s.o > > ./hello1s prints nothing. > I don't think the kernel is the one that initializes the 0, 1 and 2 file descriptors (stdin, stdout and stderr). I think you have to open them yourself. I will know for sure when my nasm port finishes installing. :) -- Mihai DonÈ›u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 21:58:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110CF1065692 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 581338FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2009 21:58:54 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO localhost) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp055) with SMTP; 11 Nov 2009 22:58:54 +0100 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+ttD8Ola6tWM0sbPoBk4d5O93DnCWyDgp+41WyOa f4E27XMpzvzAar Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:58:47 +0100 From: herbert langhans To: Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20091111215847.GA9083@sandcat> References: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Subject: Re: 7.2-STABLE X mouse & keyboard issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:58:58 -0000 This can be the notorious HAL. If you dont need it for another reason you may compile x11-server again, but switch the hal-support off. Should work well then.. Cheers herb langhans On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:25:01PM -0500, stan wrote: > I just built a brand new 7.2 STABLE machine, and the xorg package. startx > brings up a nice screen, but neither the mouse, nor the keyboard (both USB) > function in X. > > I have not created a /etx/X11/ config file yet. Do I need to do so? If so, > what;s the best way? > > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 22:45:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDC61065672 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from numail.brianwhalen.net (numail.brianwhalen.net [66.93.34.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900818FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4E9912844A; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:26:52 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on numail.brianwhalen.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (numail.brianwhalen.net [192.168.15.25]) by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E6B28433 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:26:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFB3A2A.4040303@brianwhalen.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:26:50 -0800 From: Brian Whalen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: atom based servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:45:12 -0000 I see supermicro and potentially others have atom servers available, anyone tried these on freebsd with success? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 22:50:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F79C106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from enno.davids@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2689B8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so300975qwb.7 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:50:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mL2wl9owefn88BrxQDGu4SMKndSJznh97AF8V7+k6Y4=; b=qgysVZlFjhKsspp6njpNYHucexGGl1ljMa5OMFosr58Fecqfdwfzo871MffW12fK9O ZzNEy4LcBJ0F8S+nmdNh7iXeqWE62ts7WaElglI+zmjR7CklLpVF+FUzr3MGzqe15kQ0 5sgAzjugtoU7afExdPForZMpM3IUcPwSk45Co= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=JsfDP+w30f20jdLcLjV4uz4SaTqe0dDgbp0h+Q38XE8jOj6yftEVN5CzKpHDxynKWy QQ5CK7/spCR7tDe7mDBiOxP3d0921RCZwQMQf9TD4bs80EtHnEs1Ah0zPXfF0ZrRgm4j 5rOiU8lOl197XK7/tp7SDcKlBq7zD0pchTMF0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.19.21 with SMTP id y21mr292006qca.27.1257978281906; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:24:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> References: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:24:41 +1100 Message-ID: <4f4e04f40911111424i5b8e8083w22b47bfb8a83ad3c@mail.gmail.com> From: Enno Davids To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: 7.2-STABLE X mouse & keyboard issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: enno.davids@metva.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:50:01 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:25 AM, stan wrote: > I just built a brand new 7.2 STABLE machine, and the xorg package. startx > brings up a nice screen, but neither the mouse, nor the keyboard (both USB) > function in X. > > I have not created a /etx/X11/ config file yet. Do I need to do so? If so, > what;s the best way? > > This may be the same problem I ran into 2 weeks ago. The latest builds of X have changed a few defaults. Notably, the man page for xorg.conf now suggests this. > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "boolean" > If enabled, don't add the standard keyboard and mouse drivers, > if there are no input devices in the config file. Enabled by > default if AutoAddDevices and AutoEnableDevices is enabled, oth- > erwise disabled. If AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using the > kbd, mouse or vmmouse driver are ignored. So by default, it now doesn't add input devices. I found that building a vestigal xorg.conf so I could change that back to "no" got me my input devices back. You may also want to change the DontZap option to get back the Ctrl-Alt-BS key sequence to exit the X server. Enno -------------------------- Enno Davids 03 9583 5474 040 999 2981 enno.davids@metva.com.au From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 23:24:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA1A106566B for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevenschlansker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F018FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so1085490pwj.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:24:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:content-type :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=m0uv6fbseM6b8YYCBV/II/BzOh79nmU7co2arzfEB4Y=; b=Wye7fQrG1fHd85trLaz0b08V+sPudt5fQwAklEKVETL4WTd2Zq/NoqTP5iqadg1UiT xzoh8uK0LrZR4MWQuvX/sY1KrjQuC9sTO2+kpA25yV0sObcW7pf+At0hMSZZlXCpp4r6 F3r+ZSrcMypm42QXDCAafYR+T6tQ8vepf1fbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; b=QOe5xTRzgtjy+nJYm2r9rpQ5z0cbsS7N9VcHRtyagz8+LzEagXkOvVRMWPKGRlSVCG yuIWMNU31Rq47SsIlrz7wKt4EJaw0yc/z17VOo6M2vvgN+tDcCxHHrbMwb6X+mRQ3vtA 2RsY/2SiZISr0WwmyImx7i8DNjVNBnnkdwE2Y= Received: by 10.114.71.20 with SMTP id t20mr4347163waa.205.1257980494175; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.42.2? (70-36-134-191.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [70.36.134.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1312626pxi.6.2009.11.11.15.01.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:01:33 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Schlansker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <9F20D142-1129-4E30-8D88-E4DCB3B50DB1@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:01:32 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: zfs raidz2 marked as UNAVAIL even though only one vdev is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:24:02 -0000 Hello, This morning I found that one of my disks was going bad, so I thought I would replace it (using zpool replace) with a new disk. This worked fine, and it was about 1/3 of the way through. Then, as I was moving things around, I accidentally jostled some of the cables. This of course made the system extremely unhappy and eventually resulted in a kernel panic. Then when I tried to bring the system back up, it reported the pool as FAULTED due to missing devices. Figuring that it just needed to "re-discover" the devices and considering that every zpool /=20 zfs command was unavailable, I decided to export and re-import the pool. However, now the pool is not importable! The status shows (typed since no SSH access): pool: universe id: (uuid) state: UNAVAIL action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data config: universe UNAVAIL insufficient replicas raidz2 UNAVAIL corrupted data replacing DEGRADED (uuid) UNAVAIL cannot open ad16 ONLINE ad10 ONLINE ad8 ONLINE ... five more drives, all ONLINE To my eye, there should be no reason it can't import. The drives are = all marked ONLINE except for the one I know failed. I can't zpool status -v to see *what* is corrupted because I can't = import. So here I am, stuck, unable to import. Any suggestions as to how I can = recover from this situation? Any way to tell what is corrupted so I can maybe intentionally fail that = disk and allow a scrub to recreate it? Thanks for any advice, Steven Schlansker= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 11 23:27:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EBF1065670 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevenschlansker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045BF8FC25 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so1167139pzk.3 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:27:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:content-type :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=8K3nTeRJZ+s8qUSGZTCygvN91iCyb3P7cq4P+LuVmPw=; b=BDdDvVhlikqG04oO4FqeEEuDYUuarmTTEJ8KrFFLwTmlqiHcBvh9vyapiTSJvf27Tg 6AaM5CmyWRXCHRqj2fo2Es+FLGqRIoupczkqlilfMsi8kCR2RwwvShyOk9NKq2yEeI/T 5hDawFBZcBXu/0NebgEKvBbxXWqNNqk0bKtjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:x-mailer; b=BMboql9DMdGwHzJgUNnoqM94/rcTOzqbjj5hyiREz0+J4SI1PqWfvT1gPKmAHC3Okq Rvwt7kWRYRt86XzD6whcovQbMCMu2wWcQF4Hl9K3HWdn8S4pfVxM+kEjyZs0MxrSkFsr WsDp35h6CmUDMr4/DNolXthCF2AX91xBjgtaw= Received: by 10.114.7.25 with SMTP id 25mr4559750wag.21.1257982071527; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.42.2? (70-36-134-191.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [70.36.134.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1284334pzk.4.2009.11.11.15.27.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:27:50 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Schlansker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <49858BCA-1F44-40F9-ACCB-631CBAD95199@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:27:47 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Subject: zfs raidz2 marked as UNAVAIL even though only one vdev is missing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:27:52 -0000 Hello, This morning I found that one of my disks was going bad, so I thought I would replace it (using zpool replace) with a new disk. This worked fine, and it was about 1/3 of the way through. Then, as I was moving things around, I accidentally jostled some of the cables. This of course made the system extremely unhappy and eventually resulted in a kernel panic. Then when I tried to bring the system back up, it reported the pool as FAULTED due to missing devices. Figuring that it just needed to "re-discover" the devices and considering that every zpool / zfs command was unavailable, I decided to export and re-import the pool. However, now the pool is not importable! The status shows (typed since no SSH access): pool: universe id: (uuid) state: UNAVAIL action: The pool cannot be imported due to damaged devices or data config: universe UNAVAIL insufficient replicas raidz2 UNAVAIL corrupted data replacing DEGRADED (uuid) UNAVAIL cannot open ad16 ONLINE ad10 ONLINE ad8 ONLINE ... five more drives, all ONLINE To my eye, there should be no reason it can't import. The drives are = all marked ONLINE except for the one I know failed. I can't zpool status -v to see *what* is corrupted because I can't = import. So here I am, stuck, unable to import. Any suggestions as to how I can = recover from this situation? Any way to tell what is corrupted so I can maybe intentionally fail that = disk and allow a scrub to recreate it? 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FOREIGN OPERATION MANAGER MONEYGRAM OFFICE THIS IS OUR CONDUCT CODE ( 303) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 00:27:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3FA106566C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377FE8FC08 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC0RpfS069698; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:27:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAC0Rpnv069695; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:27:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:27:51 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: References: <20091111170900.GA5972@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:27:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:27:52 -0000 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > I have heard some complaints about MS-Vista and having to do some > other monkeying around to get an MBR to handle it correctly, but I > don't know details and I do not (lucky me) have any Vista machines > to joust with. EasyBCD from neosmart.net is an easy and free way to do this. Install Vista, install FreeBSD in another slice/primary partition but leave the MBR alone, then install and use EasyBCD from Vista to set booting options. On boot, the machine shows a menu similar to but fancier than FreeBSD's boot0. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 00:40:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B6F1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347888FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAC0eZF8069746; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAC0eZkd069743; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: stan In-Reply-To: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> Message-ID: References: <20091111172501.GA14114@teddy.fas.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: 7.2-STABLE X mouse & keyboard issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:40:36 -0000 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, stan wrote: > I just built a brand new 7.2 STABLE machine, and the xorg package. startx > brings up a nice screen, but neither the mouse, nor the keyboard (both USB) > function in X. The Handbook has an up-to-date section on xorg configuration: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html > I have not created a /etx/X11/ config file yet. Do I need to do so? With dbus and hal enabled, and one monitor, maybe not. Try it. > If so, what;s the best way? Copy the previous xorg.conf, edit to take advantage of new xorg features or changes. You can use X -configure, but the only section that it does well is the Device section with all the commented options. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 01:32:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CBE1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50E8FC18 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 41LC1d0021HzFnQ581Ykhd; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:32:44 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 41Yi1d00P1f6R9u3a1Yjnq; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:32:44 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:32:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:32:41 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091112013240.GA21567@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:32:45 -0000 On Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 11:43:21 PST David Jackson wrote: >I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program >on FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on >FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i >get nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: > > section .data > hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa > hbytes equ $ - hello > > section .text > global _start > _start: > push dword hbytes > push dword hello > push dword 1 > mov eax,0x4 > int 0x80 > add esp,12 > > push dword 0 > mov eax,0x1 > int 0x80 > >nasm -f elf -o hello1s.o hello1.s >ld -s -o hello1s hello1s.o > >./hello1s prints nothing. > >What is wrong here? It should print "hello world". Thanks in advance >for your help, it is greatly appreciated. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x86.html You've seen this part of the handbook, yes? In particular: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x86-system-calls.html Calling your attention to the example code shown just before section 11.3.2, which shows how to open a file: open: push dword mode push dword flags push dword path mov eax, 5 push eax ; Or any other dword int 80h add esp, byte 16 Notice that the system call number (or any other dword) should also be pushed onto the stack before the int 80h. So try this: push dword hbytes push dword hello push dword 1 ; stdout mov eax,0x4 push eax ; or any other dword int 0x80 add esp,16 ; don't forget to account for the extra dword! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 01:45:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E14106566C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460C08FC1F for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3tfg1d00917dt5G521lJsd; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:45:18 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 41lH1d0011f6R9u3Z1lH8Q; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:45:18 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:45:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:45:15 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091112014515.GB21567@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> <20091112013240.GA21567@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091112013240.GA21567@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:45:19 -0000 On Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 17:32:41 PST Charlie Kester wrote: One more thing: >Notice that the system call number (or any other dword) should also be >pushed onto the stack before the int 80h. The reason for this is given at the top of the page: although the kernel is accessed using int 80h, it is assumed the program will call a function that issues int 80h, rather than issuing int 80h directly. So the extra dword pushed onto the stack takes the place of the return address from the function the kernel expects to have been called. And since you're not actually using as a return address, it doesn't matter what value it actually has. The kernel doesn't use it for anything; it just expects it to be there in a properly arranged stack frame. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 02:21:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFA41065670 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40CE8FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:21:12 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJP8+kqWZcBC/2dsb2JhbADdEIQ8BA Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 12:35:52 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 12 Nov 2009 11:40:41 +1100 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:06:03 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: atom based servers X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Index: AcpjIfdG/bSCI+4kT0OHuNa4tTpWXAAGVOXj References: <4AFB3A2A.4040303@brianwhalen.net> From: "David Rawling" To: Subject: RE: atom based servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:21:13 -0000 -----Original Message----- >From: Brian Whalen >Sent: Thu 12/11/2009 9:26 AM > >I see supermicro and potentially others have atom servers available,=20 >anyone tried these on freebsd with success? > >Brian Hi Brian Indeed, I have a FreeBSD 8.0RC1 system running as my primary time server for the home network. Since it's an Atom 330, it fully supports 64-bit mode (an opportunity I have grasped with both hands). The board I happen to be using is an Intel DG945GCLF2 - a clone board with just 1 DIMM slot and two SATA ports. Everything I need to have supported Just Worked out of the box. The server itself is running at a very low load level: timeserver ~ 15> uptime 1:00PM up 6 days, 12:38, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 I can provide the output of most any other commands if you'd like to see anything specific. I rather suspect that the Supermicro and other server-class Atoms will still be using the Intel 945 or similar chipsets. Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Email: djr@pdconsec.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 08:21:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C3B1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819CC8FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id nAC8LpZO017718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:21:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id nAC8LpkI017717; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA14049; Thu, 12 Nov 09 00:13:59 PST Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:14:36 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: mihai.dontu@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4afbc3ec.zk+/zkNLGZsHODYg%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> <200911112229.24468.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200911112229.24468.mihai.dontu@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: norstar39@gmail.com Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:21:52 -0000 Mihai Don??u wrote: > I don't think the kernel is the one that initializes the > 0, 1 and 2 file descriptors (stdin, stdout and stderr). Correct so far. > I think you have to open them yourself ... No, the shell does it. That's how it is able to set up pipes and redirection. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 10:14:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859BF1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2057D8FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so525064eyd.9 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.0.138 with SMTP id 10mr2370771ebb.56.1258020869689; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm3001468eyx.45.2009.11.12.02.14.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:14:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFBDFFF.9020603@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:14:23 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Rawling References: <4AFB3A2A.4040303@brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atom based servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:14:31 -0000 David Rawling wrote: ........ > > Hi Brian > > Indeed, I have a FreeBSD 8.0RC1 system running as my primary time > server for the home network. Since it's an Atom 330, it fully > supports 64-bit mode (an opportunity I have grasped with both hands). I have one of the Acer ION gadgets running at home and that also uses the Atom 330. I cannot find any nice way to reduce the power consumption though as the 330 doesn't seem to support speedstep and my cpu is always running at 68C. Does your board provide any power control opportunity? > > The board I happen to be using is an Intel DG945GCLF2 - a clone > board with just 1 DIMM slot and two SATA ports. Everything I need > to have supported Just Worked out of the box. > >......... > I can provide the output of most any other commands if you'd like > to see anything specific. I rather suspect that the Supermicro and > other server-class Atoms will still be using the Intel 945 or > similar chipsets. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 13:47:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95321106566C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A448FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8a0s-0005aY-FM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:06 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1N8a0r-0002Dg-Mi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:02 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACDl11D066204 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nACDl18I066203 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:01 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:01 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091112134701.GA66194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 X-Spam-Level: ---- Subject: where's my konqueror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:47:07 -0000 I installed kdebase-4.3.1_1, but cannot find konqueror. It's supposed be a part of kdebase, isn't it? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 14:10:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FE0106568D for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A1DE8FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26534 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 13:36:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) (218.215.174.13) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 12 Nov 2009 13:36:21 -0000 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 117A21718C; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:43:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:43:50 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091112134350.GA21453@ozzmosis.com> References: <5b32573f0911111035k48646b2bo7c1c7c5c9af0c22d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5b32573f0911111035k48646b2bo7c1c7c5c9af0c22d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Jason Fried Subject: Re: Can I prevent freebsd-update from installing kernel debug files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:10:34 -0000 On Wed 2009-11-11 12:35:55 UTC-0600, Jason Fried (rev@churchofbsd.org) wrote: > I have a fairly old install and not much room on my ROOT is there a way to > prevent freebsd-update from installing ".symbols" files. In /etc/freebsd-update.conf: IgnorePaths /boot/kernel/*.symbols >From reading the man page I get the impression this should work. I haven't tested it though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 14:17:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA3910656A3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.skuhra@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159A48FC26 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so2401811fxm.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:17:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rN5v9K3Kd7f5jh6iXAaTehtBxXLZlrGMAAZ32LujQ0Y=; b=O8hD5Gh5dLf51wdBaOp1yA8OYZOsQTqvuVK/58YhiTE4q5T7ek+52W5jnAA0RxoFnL iEJj2DwOAv+OdNjowNGzcF07vTgXthfgKxgpJXbf6FqERZ7+d9Nk8PVsxlW/SjXhrKVS lMXrjyltrvHkp37WtoV7eUh9oaQsceEyG3ZTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cLOXSOC4Znitx+NMUV9aNClGMRsI3HUWVlQra1akJNotaR610rgz5PMk9DP9DFdUkH CR87Y1y47OimIfXN+B4JiZdQxTY2fLm+BsIV/9RFdvgHAuDx53XjIIeXXES5a3yBWhN7 HkKN4xy8ORPT2Pe0R5EZd5D3j226VlCDY8n5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.148.69 with SMTP id o5mr3214343bkv.99.1258035438215; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:17:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091112134701.GA66194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20091112134701.GA66194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: where's my konqueror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:17:20 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht w= rote: > I installed =C2=A0kdebase-4.3.1_1, but cannot find konqueror. > It's supposed be a part of kdebase, isn't it? % grep konqueror /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/pkg-plist bin/konqueror lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so [...] --Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 14:20:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06654106566B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4348FC1D for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so2394114bwz.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:20:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OKJoAq5Gt2EDRSzSAT8+w/VjpFopmtRct3w5Ad8ItVk=; b=sMTwPrJwW0MDaZPGVKjiIhAZuf2OkpcDY0K2K3/kWMWHPlAACLyXttuwAK2hCUsFP0 LgysbHoQqpVu8tkEAd4G4ztsL3YWz9fYP9fiVYZ8FFGasnLzPwEO4sxfWpaUdtu9bOLK 9ZjC3yn9GUaNt9APVc0bUyQw7YP9/wZfvbV3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=X4FxzhKJDeW9E6gLMDkafXeO8IOvbvB2Q1KK9ALoZ+8TG14eOxhQSI2hV5SyhImT0C Zrw4b+iYFH0Uxx1mUKQuPKDY5vQ6feEa7Sinkox7jQrcyqMcAMj8x9hKd5IIxujLMLkj mNLsmjfU6Wh5XsXeFqcr5xQFZ+KWRzEPLEndo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.10.8 with SMTP id n8mr992165bkn.48.1258035618106; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:20:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091112134701.GA66194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:20:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: usleepless@gmail.com To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where's my konqueror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:20:20 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht > wrote: > > I installed kdebase-4.3.1_1, but cannot find konqueror. > > It's supposed be a part of kdebase, isn't it? > > % grep konqueror /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/pkg-plist > bin/konqueror > lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so > [...] > > my 4.3.0 decided to install everything into /usr/local/kde4. so my konq is at /usr/local/kde4/bin/konqueror. don't know why. didn't dare to ask. regards, usleep > --Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 14:48:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D921065672 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3C18FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:48:23 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAFus+0qWZcBC/2dsb2JhbADdJ4Q8BIFs Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 01:18:21 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 13 Nov 2009 00:23:16 +1100 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:48:34 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: atom based servers X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Index: AcpjgPithsq5zyUmTuiqJAU9xlQlcgAJNPmN References: <4AFB3A2A.4040303@brianwhalen.net> <4AFBDFFF.9020603@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> From: "David Rawling" To: "Robin Becker" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: atom based servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:48:24 -0000 Robin Becker opined: ... >I have one of the Acer ION gadgets running at home and that also uses = the Atom=20 >330. I cannot find any nice way to reduce the power consumption though = as the=20 >330 doesn't seem to support speedstep and my cpu is always running at = 68C. Does >your board provide any power control opportunity? sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq reports that my CPU is running at 202 or 404MHz = generally: timeserver ~ 127# sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq dev.cpu.0.freq: 404 timeserver ~ 128# sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq_levels dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1618/-1 1415/-1 1213/-1 1011/-1 809/-1 606/-1 = 404/-1 202/-1 I notice the only C states are C0 and C1, and that it's generally = running in C1: timeserver ~ 136# sysctl dev.cpu.0 dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=3D\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=3Dnone _UID=3D0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 202 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1618/-1 1415/-1 1213/-1 1011/-1 809/-1 606/-1 = 404/-1 202/-1 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% last 500us lmmon is not particularly helpful for anything on this board, but that = could be because I'm using the Generic kernel and /dev/smb0 is not present: timeserver ~ 134# lmmon -i Motherboard Temp Voltages 255C / 491F / 528K Vcore1: +3.984V Vcore2: +3.984V Fan Speeds + 3.3V: +3.984V + 5.0V: +6.654V 1: 0 rpm +12.0V: +15.938V 2: 0 rpm -12.0V: -15.938V 3: 0 rpm - 5.0V: -6.654V Do you have any other suggestions of tools I could use to help answer = your question? Perhaps the lack of other C states is causing the excess power = consumption (or perhaps your system is more heavily loaded)? I'm assuming for the sake = of simplicity that powerd is already enabled (I'm running with powerd_flags=3D"-i 85 = -r 60 -p 100")? Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Email: djr@pdconsec.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 14:55:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175631065692 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:55:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02088FC15 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nACEqsFX012171; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:52:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nACEqrMV012170; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:52:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:52:53 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Abidan Message-ID: <20091112145253.GA12151@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111170900.GA5972@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111195247.GA6824@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111205612.GA7167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:55:09 -0000 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:57:02PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > i did it like you say, but something is happening with my installation, it > boots always the first OS, i don't have any ideas for having a dual > system... argh!! Perchance, is your other system MS-Vista? As I mentioned in a previous response, I have heard of people having problems with dual booting with Vista and having to follow some other procedure for that. But, I haven't used Vista (and do not intend to) so you will have to do some archive searching to find those pieces of information. ////jerry > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:12:22PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > so, then i need to create 2 slices with gparted, install windows on the > > > first one, and install freebsd on the second one and label this partition > > > automatically by the installer (ad0s1, ad0s2, etc) and install the > > bootmgr? > > > > Yes, essentially except for those partition names. > > > > Create the two slices/primary partitions. > > Install the MS-Win in the first one. I think then MS will call it 'c:' > > Anyway, FreeBSD will think it is ad0s1. > > > > Then install FreeBSD in the second slice/primary partition. MS will not > > even know it is there. FreeBSD will call it ad0s2. > > > > During the install, that ad0s2 slice will be subdivided according to how > > you tell it into FreeBSD partitions with names like ad0s2a (for root) > > and ad0s2b (for swap), ad0s2d for whatever - maybe /tmp, ad0s2e for > > something else, such as /usr, etc. > > > > For my general purpose machines I usually subdivide in to > > the following partitions: > > a mounts as / eg: mount /dev/ad0s2a / > > b swap > > c describes the slice and is not a real partition > > d mounts as /tmp eg: mount /dev/ad0s2d /tmp > > e mounts as /usr etc > > f mounts as /var > > g mounts as /home or something similar > > > > > > For my systems that are single purpose central servers I tend to do this: > > a mounts as / everything but swap and afscache goes in root. > > b swap > > c slice description > > d /afscache > > > > > > If I have a second drive for scratch or work space I tend to do: > > a mounts as /work and uses up all the space except extra swap > > b used for additional swap > > c describes the slice > > > > The sizes of the various partition-subdivisions depends on the size > > of the disk and the use being made of the machine and what I want > > to install on it and how I want to handle backups. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:22:58PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > > > > > ok. the slices in freebsd are little tricky, i will check my > > installation > > > > > and send some feedback later. > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? FreeBSD slices are pretty straight forward. They are just the > > > > name of the 4 primary divisions of a disk - limited to 4 by BIOS. > > > > MS just calls them primary partitions instead of slices. > > > > > > > > The major difference is how they might be subdivided. MS does what it > > > > calls logical partitions. FreeBSD subdivisions are just called > > partitions. > > > > > > > > The fdisk(8) utility creates slices (or primary partitions in MS, > > though > > > > the > > > > FreeBSD fdisk is not very conversant with some of the new MS types so > > you > > > > may be better off using something else to create primary > > partitions/slices > > > > if other OSen are being accomodated). Slices (or primary partitions) > > are > > > > identified by numbers 1..4. > > > > > > > > The bsdlabel(8) utility in FreeBSD is what subdivides a slice in to > > > > partitions. It used to be that it was limited to 7 real partitions > > > > identified with letters a..h with the letter 'c' reserved to describe > > > > the whole slice and not usable as a real partition. Partition 'a' is > > > > normally root mounted as '/' and partition 'b' is used as swap. These > > > > two (a & b) are conventions and not enforced, except that some software > > > > may make these assumptions. My understanding is that the newest > > > > versions of FreeBSD (8.0) modify or remove the limit and you can have > > > > letters above 'h' and thus more subdivisions in a slice, but I haven't > > > > tried that yet. > > > > > > > > In FreeBSD, to create a filesystem from a partition, you run newfs(8) > > on > > > > it. > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > > > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:27:13PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > i pressed f2 for freebsd and nothing happens... i pressed f1 for > > > > windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I install freebsd on the first partition and now it occurs the > > > > viceversa, > > > > > > i > > > > > > > cannot boot windows, does it have to be something with the order > > of > > > > the > > > > > > > partitions? i mean primary, logical o something like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > MS-Win should optimally be installed on the first primary > > partition. > > > > > > This is called 'slice 1' by FreeBSD. Then FreeBSD should be > > installed > > > > > > on slice 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > If the slices are not to your liking, then you may need to use some > > > > > > utility such as Parition Magic 7 (I had trouble with PM-8) or > > gparted > > > > > > to define the primary partitions/slices before you do any of the > > > > installs. > > > > > > But, still, MS-Win should be installed first and go in the first > > slice > > > > > > and FreeBSD later in another slice. That is because MS-Win doesn't > > > > play > > > > > > very well if installed later and/or in a different slice. > > > > > > > > > > > > When you install FreeBSD (after the MS-Win install) select > > installing > > > > > > the FreeBSD MBR (not none or default minimum). It should be > > smart > > > > > > enough to find both. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have heard some complaints about MS-Vista and having to do some > > > > > > other monkeying around to get an MBR to handle it correctly, but I > > > > > > don't know details and I do not (lucky me) have any Vista machines > > > > > > to joust with. > > > > > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02:35AM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in mi > > box > > > > and i > > > > > > left > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and > > > > installed > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > boot > > > > > > > > > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with f1 > > > > pressed? > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > I make the system boots both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure all of what you see, but if you literally mean that > > when > > > > > > > > you press F1 it always boots MS-Win, that is probably correct. > > > > > > > > You will have to press F2 or maybe F3 (depending in which slice > > you > > > > > > > > installed FreeBSD) to boot FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect you mean something a little different, but if so, > > > > > > > > please elaborate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 15:38:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88183106566B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djackson452@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f108.google.com (mail-qy0-f108.google.com [209.85.221.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BDF8FC24 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so109917qyk.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:38:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nNXqqGqdUXBp/qPq+VRqCR1xsF1Z2isIms3UZ4lv1N4=; b=altdDz6I11sK+GBIWwAEXXe9iWDTNVf55iQq3qLV1q+oiX6e0dO/fR4c9OZi8DOyks fpDAadajkRit2PGUltt4y89xE4c2QV0aaaJE9qJbch8LOFP5BJZuPW89Uj5adCH8YP7h fZlI9VhWn0/as04janLcGhk75dMm4qosk7Fbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dOGGSoOrS3ahdnf61AlwzfVZ6kte0NQD2aRJxAaHKkKRydoNHRKL1LlXF45PdMeKVG ZbwWv0iaWRDHw7wP9Yt8SdQAHYEmHNVz1WbxJdox+LmHCglJ7yKGAcO4GKEZFq/ZwHOf iO/vtcyGg9AZQIXEkIxSiUqWeTpP2Otd7Dg+s= Received: by 10.224.102.207 with SMTP id h15mr1665004qao.139.1258040312176; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.103? (pool-96-254-203-152.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [96.254.203.152]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1355876yxb.61.2009.11.12.07.38.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:38:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFC2BDF.7060405@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:38:07 -0500 From: David Jackson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charlie Kester , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> <20091112013240.GA21567@comcast.net> <20091112014515.GB21567@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20091112014515.GB21567@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:38:33 -0000 Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 11 Nov 2009 at 17:32:41 PST Charlie Kester wrote: > > One more thing: > >> Notice that the system call number (or any other dword) should also be >> pushed onto the stack before the int 80h. > > The reason for this is given at the top of the page: > > although the kernel is accessed using int 80h, it is assumed the > program will call a function that issues int 80h, rather than issuing > int 80h directly. > > So the extra dword pushed onto the stack takes the place of the return > address from the function the kernel expects to have been called. > And since you're not actually using as a return address, it doesn't > matter what value it actually has. The kernel doesn't use it for > anything; it just expects it to be there in a properly arranged stack > frame. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The push eax is what made it work. So that was the problem. Stdin and stdout do not need to opened before they are used, as in C. Thank you everyone for your help on this, that solved it. Here is the code that works: section .data hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa hbytes equ $ - hello section .text global _start _start: push dword hbytes push dword hello push dword 1 mov eax,0x4 push eax int 0x80 add esp,16 push dword 0 mov eax,0x1 push eax int 0x80 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 16:10:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90E210656CC for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FE78FC23 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nACG86q0012571; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:08:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nACG86S9012570; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:08:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:08:06 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Abidan Message-ID: <20091112160806.GA12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111195247.GA6824@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111205612.GA7167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112145253.GA12151@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:10:21 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:38:27AM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: First, please send all messages to the freebsd-questions list and not just to me. That is proper list etiquette, plus you will be able to get responses from more than just me. Others may know more. In other words, always do a 'reply all' on list email. > read this: > > "First, be aware that all the information necessary to boot FreeBSD must be > located within the first 1,024 cylinders of the hard disk. This is necessary > for the FreeBSD boot manager to work; it means that when you partition the > disk for FreeBSD using FIPS, either the root partition must be completely > located within the first 1,024 cylinders or you can use a separate boot > partition that is completely located in the first 1,024 cylinders. Use the > "Start" and "End" cylinder readouts in FIPS to determine where your > partitions start and end. If you choose the latter option, the root > partition does not have to be completely located in the first 1,024 > cylinders. Note that "completely located" means that the partition has to > both start and end below the 1,024th cylinder. Simply starting below the > 1,024th cylinder is not good enough. This is obsolete information for most computers with BIOS and disks created later than about 1998. That really means all computers functioning today. It is also obsolete for FreeBSD systems which do not use BIOS to talk to the disk. There are numerous web sites that explain this including some documentation on the FreeBSD web site: http://www.freebsd.org/ ////jerry > > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=32084&seqNum=4" > > as i see, do i need to create a partition(located in the first > 1024cylinders) to BOOT from? (sorry) > > 2009/11/12 Jesús Abidan > > > no, it's not vista, is XP > > > > 2009/11/12 Jerry McAllister > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:57:02PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > >> > >> > i did it like you say, but something is happening with my installation, > >> it > >> > boots always the first OS, i don't have any ideas for having a dual > >> > system... argh!! > >> > >> Perchance, is your other system MS-Vista? > >> As I mentioned in a previous response, I have heard of people > >> having problems with dual booting with Vista and having to > >> follow some other procedure for that. But, I haven't used Vista > >> (and do not intend to) so you will have to do some archive searching > >> to find those pieces of information. > >> > >> ////jerry > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:12:22PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > so, then i need to create 2 slices with gparted, install windows on > >> the > >> > > > first one, and install freebsd on the second one and label this > >> partition > >> > > > automatically by the installer (ad0s1, ad0s2, etc) and install the > >> > > bootmgr? > >> > > > >> > > Yes, essentially except for those partition names. > >> > > > >> > > Create the two slices/primary partitions. > >> > > Install the MS-Win in the first one. I think then MS will call it > >> 'c:' > >> > > Anyway, FreeBSD will think it is ad0s1. > >> > > > >> > > Then install FreeBSD in the second slice/primary partition. MS will > >> not > >> > > even know it is there. FreeBSD will call it ad0s2. > >> > > > >> > > During the install, that ad0s2 slice will be subdivided according to > >> how > >> > > you tell it into FreeBSD partitions with names like ad0s2a (for root) > >> > > and ad0s2b (for swap), ad0s2d for whatever - maybe /tmp, ad0s2e for > >> > > something else, such as /usr, etc. > >> > > > >> > > For my general purpose machines I usually subdivide in to > >> > > the following partitions: > >> > > a mounts as / eg: mount /dev/ad0s2a / > >> > > b swap > >> > > c describes the slice and is not a real partition > >> > > d mounts as /tmp eg: mount /dev/ad0s2d /tmp > >> > > e mounts as /usr etc > >> > > f mounts as /var > >> > > g mounts as /home or something similar > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > For my systems that are single purpose central servers I tend to do > >> this: > >> > > a mounts as / everything but swap and afscache goes in root. > >> > > b swap > >> > > c slice description > >> > > d /afscache > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > If I have a second drive for scratch or work space I tend to do: > >> > > a mounts as /work and uses up all the space except extra swap > >> > > b used for additional swap > >> > > c describes the slice > >> > > > >> > > The sizes of the various partition-subdivisions depends on the size > >> > > of the disk and the use being made of the machine and what I want > >> > > to install on it and how I want to handle backups. > >> > > > >> > > ////jerry > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:22:58PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ok. the slices in freebsd are little tricky, i will check my > >> > > installation > >> > > > > > and send some feedback later. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ?? FreeBSD slices are pretty straight forward. They are just > >> the > >> > > > > name of the 4 primary divisions of a disk - limited to 4 by BIOS. > >> > > > > MS just calls them primary partitions instead of slices. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > The major difference is how they might be subdivided. MS does > >> what it > >> > > > > calls logical partitions. FreeBSD subdivisions are just called > >> > > partitions. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > The fdisk(8) utility creates slices (or primary partitions in MS, > >> > > though > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > FreeBSD fdisk is not very conversant with some of the new MS types > >> so > >> > > you > >> > > > > may be better off using something else to create primary > >> > > partitions/slices > >> > > > > if other OSen are being accomodated). Slices (or primary > >> partitions) > >> > > are > >> > > > > identified by numbers 1..4. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > The bsdlabel(8) utility in FreeBSD is what subdivides a slice in > >> to > >> > > > > partitions. It used to be that it was limited to 7 real > >> partitions > >> > > > > identified with letters a..h with the letter 'c' reserved to > >> describe > >> > > > > the whole slice and not usable as a real partition. Partition 'a' > >> is > >> > > > > normally root mounted as '/' and partition 'b' is used as swap. > >> These > >> > > > > two (a & b) are conventions and not enforced, except that some > >> software > >> > > > > may make these assumptions. My understanding is that the newest > >> > > > > versions of FreeBSD (8.0) modify or remove the limit and you can > >> have > >> > > > > letters above 'h' and thus more subdivisions in a slice, but I > >> haven't > >> > > > > tried that yet. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > In FreeBSD, to create a filesystem from a partition, you run > >> newfs(8) > >> > > on > >> > > > > it. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ////jerry > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks a lot. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:27:13PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > i pressed f2 for freebsd and nothing happens... i pressed f1 > >> for > >> > > > > windows. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I install freebsd on the first partition and now it occurs > >> the > >> > > > > viceversa, > >> > > > > > > i > >> > > > > > > > cannot boot windows, does it have to be something with the > >> order > >> > > of > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > partitions? i mean primary, logical o something like this? > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > MS-Win should optimally be installed on the first primary > >> > > partition. > >> > > > > > > This is called 'slice 1' by FreeBSD. Then FreeBSD should be > >> > > installed > >> > > > > > > on slice 2. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If the slices are not to your liking, then you may need to use > >> some > >> > > > > > > utility such as Parition Magic 7 (I had trouble with PM-8) or > >> > > gparted > >> > > > > > > to define the primary partitions/slices before you do any of > >> the > >> > > > > installs. > >> > > > > > > But, still, MS-Win should be installed first and go in the > >> first > >> > > slice > >> > > > > > > and FreeBSD later in another slice. That is because MS-Win > >> doesn't > >> > > > > play > >> > > > > > > very well if installed later and/or in a different slice. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > When you install FreeBSD (after the MS-Win install) select > >> > > installing > >> > > > > > > the FreeBSD MBR (not none or default minimum). It should be > >> > > smart > >> > > > > > > enough to find both. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have heard some complaints about MS-Vista and having to do > >> some > >> > > > > > > other monkeying around to get an MBR to handle it correctly, > >> but I > >> > > > > > > don't know details and I do not (lucky me) have any Vista > >> machines > >> > > > > > > to joust with. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ////jerry > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02:35AM -0600, Jesús Abidan > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windows in > >> mi > >> > > box > >> > > > > and i > >> > > > > > > left > >> > > > > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > > > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freebsd and > >> > > > > installed > >> > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > boot > >> > > > > > > > > > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boots with > >> f1 > >> > > > > pressed? > >> > > > > > > how > >> > > > > > > > > can > >> > > > > > > > > > I make the system boots both? > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Not sure all of what you see, but if you literally mean > >> that > >> > > when > >> > > > > > > > > you press F1 it always boots MS-Win, that is probably > >> correct. > >> > > > > > > > > You will have to press F2 or maybe F3 (depending in which > >> slice > >> > > you > >> > > > > > > > > installed FreeBSD) to boot FreeBSD. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I suspect you mean something a little different, but if > >> so, > >> > > > > > > > > please elaborate. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ////jerry > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 16:14:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4119D1065672 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA85B8FC1F for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nACGCF2R012608; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:12:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nACGCFjM012607; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:12:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:12:15 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Abidan Message-ID: <20091112161215.GB12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111195247.GA6824@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111205612.GA7167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112145253.GA12151@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:31 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:04:29AM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: > i think i have the problem... > > i have two hard disks, IDE and SATA, i saw in my MS XP, my root label is F: > instead of C: maybe it is something related to jumpers or something like > that? That is a little surprise to me, but I am not up on the ins and outs of IDE/SATA labeling. Most of my machines - all of the servers - have SCSI or SAS disk which does it differently (and more easily). My only SATA machines have only a single disk. One thing to ask is: what does it have as c:, d: and e: ?? Maybe something is plugged in the wrong - or inconvenient - order on the controller. Or, I suppose there might be a jumper issue. ////jerry > > 2009/11/12 Jesús Abidan > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 16:24:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DB1106566C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jabidan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511AC8FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so2187099ywh.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SwYzHGk2Rl6YKu57YkS1ZLv+oTbqxUKSQicwG+E9fgY=; b=uv8A0UDhEUcEOUqbLxOfJYVHBsT62YcIUKYlCEuLCeXwfGIFctpAesry6wjfCmG0Gl r+pkyF5SWIfl4EuZdH2fROvkxCrfRGVJfa7bvC5efCxrRcnqy8u9wlSO8pKqy0pYU1aJ jc0i/eqNHZQ/DzMpk5vBunADLmrw11rkNSt6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=hU7aDMs2kO1sJCGFHWcsqIFRdp0O13hg/YxMwrWcinK+N2DsAXEPFzsTnmd8CG0ibZ rWyKCqt76mxZRsiHG3qiRE0RCmhmPs+P/fvY6/3OXRV7GMu/n1yUPUQNegSb7HFbUdfM yGxokhHx6Yeo2ztX55tOckH7S3XRltR/27kvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.29 with SMTP id 29mr307386hbh.135.1258043091892; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:24:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091112161215.GB12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111195247.GA6824@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111205612.GA7167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112145253.GA12151@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112161215.GB12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:24:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:24:53 -0000 no idea... the machine had only one hard drive(PATA), then i plugged a new sata HD(freebsd style), with information on it. The PATA drive is cofigured as the primary disk, and the sata in bios it says is in PORT 0. I'll try removing the SATA disk and install freebsd, maybe is the jumper configuration. 2009/11/12 Jerry McAllister > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:04:29AM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan wrote: > > > i think i have the problem... > > > > i have two hard disks, IDE and SATA, i saw in my MS XP, my root label i= s > F: > > instead of C: maybe it is something related to jumpers or something lik= e > > that? > > That is a little surprise to me, but I am not up on the ins and outs > of IDE/SATA labeling. Most of my machines - all of the servers - > have SCSI or SAS disk which does it differently (and more easily). > My only SATA machines have only a single disk. > > One thing to ask is: what does it have as c:, d: and e: ?? > Maybe something is plugged in the wrong - or inconvenient - order > on the controller. Or, I suppose there might be a jumper issue. > > ////jerry > > > > > > 2009/11/12 Jes=FAs Abidan > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 16:36:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1F9106568B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jabidan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB4C8FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so2198992ywh.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:36:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=G1YjPsnIsuWPRX1SB62UJ6OXHgA+71Btb9vHUaFSJlo=; b=d6SkBoyT8MS/N957LvT+1M1K045ClrjCyX03lYWiVwlLW69mFB+0lmCuGPF1PYTxwY cm4uzjq1Zdc4R4cJwGoDWueQJTlGPhda9SMtiwPa8TaeqtyeoCT4vhpkQtPhMNwZMqZR htXz7BQjQapPs01pJXEqUeGIOPDGwcnC8tR88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oCK1TACWJOB8IF7fDJHinNywwO20v642pPnguQr2C4TPqGfs3LKDa4f5+nOu+O98aT 9wDTfwQ4muiJf4nOiMIvpA7qXeDWpI1UH3b9OC7raLLS4Jo/DCEsuWKmJfVMiV0pnj6u 7AHgX/Z9GabsUc7asOquNCvVazktOyN2BTknw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.90 with SMTP id n26mr318323hba.133.1258043784811; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:36:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091111184945.GA6493@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111205612.GA7167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112145253.GA12151@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112161215.GB12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:36:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:36:26 -0000 no, it is not the disk, i removed it and the same problem... 2009/11/12 Jes=FAs Abidan > no idea... > > the machine had only one hard drive(PATA), then i plugged a new sata > HD(freebsd style), with information on it. The PATA drive is cofigured as > the primary disk, and the sata in bios it says is in PORT 0. > > I'll try removing the SATA disk and install freebsd, maybe is the jumper > configuration. > > 2009/11/12 Jerry McAllister > >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:04:29AM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan wrote: >> >> >> > i think i have the problem... >> > >> > i have two hard disks, IDE and SATA, i saw in my MS XP, my root label = is >> F: >> > instead of C: maybe it is something related to jumpers or something li= ke >> > that? >> >> That is a little surprise to me, but I am not up on the ins and outs >> of IDE/SATA labeling. Most of my machines - all of the servers - >> have SCSI or SAS disk which does it differently (and more easily). >> My only SATA machines have only a single disk. >> >> One thing to ask is: what does it have as c:, d: and e: ?? >> Maybe something is plugged in the wrong - or inconvenient - order >> on the controller. Or, I suppose there might be a jumper issue. >> >> ////jerry >> >> >> > >> > 2009/11/12 Jes=FAs Abidan >> > >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 16:37:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5D61065672 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jabidan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f171.google.com (mail-yx0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63968FC21 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe1 with SMTP id 1so2171838yxe.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:37:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mQKSfzeWC6fPck1sAF+iOsOlC2HKYvs6XkxmwRAhRlc=; b=gtyVh1D+cyZoti6qhNU7Stt0GmA+Yb9vYOXoZaSLpwYawBWUZokEHyij+wOhQjO0Lk hFJ9s7OWdjuEeBG00Rs26Fe9Co/8GshBsWMnabm9GkhcBqiupV5hZVeAbDQsKTWrZmbF M5s/KzZZhfMkQMITSSCuDELVqcmq/DPwCp+s8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SfvUIhj/dTurEQXa4eBZVh+8On0PRqrA24GGsQnYNRsiP/KiXICRCm+Ui3pB0fNEHh cXWTSJ4Ftjz7u3VHFOxMYoXkH76sGXKwUCeLE/gyOk614SfHllmVCFur4EplunAUrS07 xZ8WyvMSekYnFHvcbY1sqYaTopCB5MrOi1+HE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.184.157 with SMTP id y29mr331831hbg.54.1258042356275; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:12:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091112160806.GA12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20091111195247.GA6824@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091111205612.GA7167@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112145253.GA12151@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20091112160806.GA12548@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:12:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs_Abidan?= To: Jerry McAllister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot boot freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:37:51 -0000 ok, sorry... 2009/11/12 Jerry McAllister > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 09:38:27AM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan wrote: > > First, please send all messages to the freebsd-questions list and not > just to me. That is proper list etiquette, plus you will be able to > get responses from more than just me. Others may know more. > In other words, always do a 'reply all' on list email. > > > > read this: > > > > "First, be aware that all the information necessary to boot FreeBSD mus= t > be > > located within the first 1,024 cylinders of the hard disk. This is > necessary > > for the FreeBSD boot manager to work; it means that when you partition > the > > disk for FreeBSD using FIPS, either the root partition must be complete= ly > > located within the first 1,024 cylinders or you can use a separate boot > > partition that is completely located in the first 1,024 cylinders. Use > the > > "Start" and "End" cylinder readouts in FIPS to determine where your > > partitions start and end. If you choose the latter option, the root > > partition does not have to be completely located in the first 1,024 > > cylinders. Note that "completely located" means that the partition has = to > > both start and end below the 1,024th cylinder. Simply starting below th= e > > 1,024th cylinder is not good enough. > > This is obsolete information for most computers with BIOS and disks > created later than about 1998. That really means all computers > functioning today. It is also obsolete for FreeBSD systems which > do not use BIOS to talk to the disk. > > There are numerous web sites that explain this including some > documentation on the FreeBSD web site: http://www.freebsd.org/ > > ////jerry > > > > > > > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=3D32084&seqNum=3D4" > > > > as i see, do i need to create a partition(located in the first > > 1024cylinders) to BOOT from? (sorry) > > > > 2009/11/12 Jes=FAs Abidan > > > > > no, it's not vista, is XP > > > > > > 2009/11/12 Jerry McAllister > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:57:02PM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan wrote: > > >> > > >> > i did it like you say, but something is happening with my > installation, > > >> it > > >> > boots always the first OS, i don't have any ideas for having a dua= l > > >> > system... argh!! > > >> > > >> Perchance, is your other system MS-Vista? > > >> As I mentioned in a previous response, I have heard of people > > >> having problems with dual booting with Vista and having to > > >> follow some other procedure for that. But, I haven't used Vista > > >> (and do not intend to) so you will have to do some archive searching > > >> to find those pieces of information. > > >> > > >> ////jerry > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:12:22PM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > so, then i need to create 2 slices with gparted, install windo= ws > on > > >> the > > >> > > > first one, and install freebsd on the second one and label thi= s > > >> partition > > >> > > > automatically by the installer (ad0s1, ad0s2, etc) and install > the > > >> > > bootmgr? > > >> > > > > >> > > Yes, essentially except for those partition names. > > >> > > > > >> > > Create the two slices/primary partitions. > > >> > > Install the MS-Win in the first one. I think then MS will call = it > > >> 'c:' > > >> > > Anyway, FreeBSD will think it is ad0s1. > > >> > > > > >> > > Then install FreeBSD in the second slice/primary partition. MS > will > > >> not > > >> > > even know it is there. FreeBSD will call it ad0s2. > > >> > > > > >> > > During the install, that ad0s2 slice will be subdivided accordin= g > to > > >> how > > >> > > you tell it into FreeBSD partitions with names like ad0s2a (for > root) > > >> > > and ad0s2b (for swap), ad0s2d for whatever - maybe /tmp, ad0s2e > for > > >> > > something else, such as /usr, etc. > > >> > > > > >> > > For my general purpose machines I usually subdivide in to > > >> > > the following partitions: > > >> > > a mounts as / eg: mount /dev/ad0s2a / > > >> > > b swap > > >> > > c describes the slice and is not a real partition > > >> > > d mounts as /tmp eg: mount /dev/ad0s2d /tmp > > >> > > e mounts as /usr etc > > >> > > f mounts as /var > > >> > > g mounts as /home or something similar > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > For my systems that are single purpose central servers I tend to > do > > >> this: > > >> > > a mounts as / everything but swap and afscache goes in > root. > > >> > > b swap > > >> > > c slice description > > >> > > d /afscache > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > If I have a second drive for scratch or work space I tend to do: > > >> > > a mounts as /work and uses up all the space except extra sw= ap > > >> > > b used for additional swap > > >> > > c describes the slice > > >> > > > > >> > > The sizes of the various partition-subdivisions depends on the > size > > >> > > of the disk and the use being made of the machine and what I wan= t > > >> > > to install on it and how I want to handle backups. > > >> > > > > >> > > ////jerry > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 01:22:58PM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan wro= te: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > ok. the slices in freebsd are little tricky, i will check = my > > >> > > installation > > >> > > > > > and send some feedback later. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ?? FreeBSD slices are pretty straight forward. They are > just > > >> the > > >> > > > > name of the 4 primary divisions of a disk - limited to 4 by > BIOS. > > >> > > > > MS just calls them primary partitions instead of slices. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > The major difference is how they might be subdivided. MS do= es > > >> what it > > >> > > > > calls logical partitions. FreeBSD subdivisions are just > called > > >> > > partitions. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > The fdisk(8) utility creates slices (or primary partitions i= n > MS, > > >> > > though > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > FreeBSD fdisk is not very conversant with some of the new MS > types > > >> so > > >> > > you > > >> > > > > may be better off using something else to create primary > > >> > > partitions/slices > > >> > > > > if other OSen are being accomodated). Slices (or primary > > >> partitions) > > >> > > are > > >> > > > > identified by numbers 1..4. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > The bsdlabel(8) utility in FreeBSD is what subdivides a slic= e > in > > >> to > > >> > > > > partitions. It used to be that it was limited to 7 real > > >> partitions > > >> > > > > identified with letters a..h with the letter 'c' reserved to > > >> describe > > >> > > > > the whole slice and not usable as a real partition. Partiti= on > 'a' > > >> is > > >> > > > > normally root mounted as '/' and partition 'b' is used as > swap. > > >> These > > >> > > > > two (a & b) are conventions and not enforced, except that so= me > > >> software > > >> > > > > may make these assumptions. My understanding is that the > newest > > >> > > > > versions of FreeBSD (8.0) modify or remove the limit and you > can > > >> have > > >> > > > > letters above 'h' and thus more subdivisions in a slice, but= I > > >> haven't > > >> > > > > tried that yet. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > In FreeBSD, to create a filesystem from a partition, you run > > >> newfs(8) > > >> > > on > > >> > > > > it. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > ////jerry > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thanks a lot. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:27:13PM -0600, Jes=FAs Abidan > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > i pressed f2 for freebsd and nothing happens... i > pressed f1 > > >> for > > >> > > > > windows. > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I install freebsd on the first partition and now it > occurs > > >> the > > >> > > > > viceversa, > > >> > > > > > > i > > >> > > > > > > > cannot boot windows, does it have to be something with > the > > >> order > > >> > > of > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > partitions? i mean primary, logical o something like > this? > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > MS-Win should optimally be installed on the first primar= y > > >> > > partition. > > >> > > > > > > This is called 'slice 1' by FreeBSD. Then FreeBSD shou= ld > be > > >> > > installed > > >> > > > > > > on slice 2. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > If the slices are not to your liking, then you may need = to > use > > >> some > > >> > > > > > > utility such as Parition Magic 7 (I had trouble with PM-= 8) > or > > >> > > gparted > > >> > > > > > > to define the primary partitions/slices before you do an= y > of > > >> the > > >> > > > > installs. > > >> > > > > > > But, still, MS-Win should be installed first and go in > the > > >> first > > >> > > slice > > >> > > > > > > and FreeBSD later in another slice. That is because > MS-Win > > >> doesn't > > >> > > > > play > > >> > > > > > > very well if installed later and/or in a different slice= . > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > When you install FreeBSD (after the MS-Win install) sele= ct > > >> > > installing > > >> > > > > > > the FreeBSD MBR (not none or default minimum). It > should be > > >> > > smart > > >> > > > > > > enough to find both. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have heard some complaints about MS-Vista and having t= o > do > > >> some > > >> > > > > > > other monkeying around to get an MBR to handle it > correctly, > > >> but I > > >> > > > > > > don't know details and I do not (lucky me) have any Vist= a > > >> machines > > >> > > > > > > to joust with. > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ////jerry > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2009/11/11 Jerry McAllister > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:02:35AM -0600, Jes=FAs Ab= idan > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi there, i have a problem here, i installed windo= ws > in > > >> mi > > >> > > box > > >> > > > > and i > > >> > > > > > > left > > >> > > > > > > > > a > > >> > > > > > > > > > partition for freebsd, i finished install of freeb= sd > and > > >> > > > > installed > > >> > > > > > > the > > >> > > > > > > > > boot > > >> > > > > > > > > > mgr of freebsd but when i reboot only windows boot= s > with > > >> f1 > > >> > > > > pressed? > > >> > > > > > > how > > >> > > > > > > > > can > > >> > > > > > > > > > I make the system boots both? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Not sure all of what you see, but if you literally > mean > > >> that > > >> > > when > > >> > > > > > > > > you press F1 it always boots MS-Win, that is probabl= y > > >> correct. > > >> > > > > > > > > You will have to press F2 or maybe F3 (depending in > which > > >> slice > > >> > > you > > >> > > > > > > > > installed FreeBSD) to boot FreeBSD. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I suspect you mean something a little different, but > if > > >> so, > > >> > > > > > > > > please elaborate. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ////jerry > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >> > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > >> > > > > > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 17:45:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7FC1065694 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793808FC1C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25930EB4839; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A07E452BE; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:13 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Csr6Z4x+-XJ8; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp-94-64-255-253.home.otenet.gr [94.64.255.253]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD57F452A4; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACHjBS1084589 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nACHjBLf084588; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: David Jackson References: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:45:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4AFB13D9.9050507@gmail.com> (David Jackson's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:43:21 -0500") Message-ID: <87fx8jeixl.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:45:15 -0000 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:43:21 -0500, David Jackson wrote: > I am having great difficulty running a very simple assembler program > on FreeBSD on x86 in my efforts to learn some assembly programming on > FreeBSD. I have tried to compile the following with nasm, however i > get nothing in response when I attempt to run this program: > > section .data > hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa > hbytes equ $ - hello > > section .text > global _start > _start: > push dword hbytes > push dword hello > push dword 1 > mov eax,0x4 > int 0x80 > add esp,12 > > push dword 0 > mov eax,0x1 > int 0x80 > > nasm -f elf -o hello1s.o hello1.s > ld -s -o hello1s hello1s.o > > ./hello1s prints nothing. > > What is wrong here? It should print "hello world". > Thanks in advance for your help, it is greatly appreciated. Hi David. The truss utility is your friend when you are trying to decipher system call problems. It can translate system call arguments to human-readable output; a very useful property when debugging issues like this. For example here's the output for your original code: $ truss ./hello write(134516904,0xe,1) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' process exit, rval = 1 Note how the arguments of write() are 'misplaced'? The answer is that you are not calling the system call with C-like conventions (including a function call return address). The calling conventions of system calls are described in the Developer's Handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/x86-system-calls.html You are missing a dword push before interrupting. As the dev handbook says, you have to use C calling conventions or push an extra (ignorable) dword before interrupting: An assembly language program can do that as well. For example, we could open a file: | kernel: | int 80h ; Call kernel | ret | | open: | push dword mode | push dword flags | push dword path | mov eax, 5 | call kernel | add esp, byte 12 | ret This is a very clean and portable way of coding. If you need to port the code to a UNIX system which uses a different interrupt, or a different way of passing parameters, all you need to change is the kernel procedure. But assembly language programmers like to shave off cycles. The above example requires a call/ret combination. We can eliminate it by pushing an extra dword: | open: | push dword mode | push dword flags | push dword path | mov eax, 5 | push eax ; Or any other dword | int 80h | add esp, byte 16 So by pushing *one* more dword before you interrupt should work fine (and it does, from a small test I ran just now): : keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ cat hello.s : section .data : hello db 'Hello, World!', 0xa : hbytes equ $ - hello : : section .text : global _start : _start: : push dword hbytes : push dword hello : push dword 1 : push dword 0 ;or any other dword : mov eax, 4 : int 0x80 : add esp, byte 16 : : push dword 0 : push dword 0 ;ignored dword : mov eax, 1 : int 0x80 : add esp, byte 8 ;NOT REACHED : keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ nasm -f elf -o hello.o hello.s : keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ ld -s -o hello hello.o : keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ truss ./hello : Hello, World! : write(1,"Hello, World!\n",14) = 14 (0xe) : process exit, rval = 0 : keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ HTH, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 17:57:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27294106566C for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8F08FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so1712886pzk.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:57:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=88kxrMkmoJqxjhfbXVC3IrJ5FyKGLZeCbrBIjfijU7A=; b=YrBtKopjVHo8q/UkrpN/wrVsXNCDXvX9ghUFi6UfAU26V5THVSMW1elN7bxMBJmyP0 7K6H9oL81kY4cjE/9ksXXan37u/y+2dOfHYWKzHXHjUjyCtItMJ55sMn6gDxcuRf4aqK uPixr7kO1VSGOI1I2FSFUzLrA0ZmBFiXWY+4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=M6LahXd22CJ30nbH3ul2K0M8MEd+ZrjwDJERbaYFqxPKKcjuretetYiSW3EYfkgJ85 rqhZfYD34ak2qRZ2JzBlX4oT7wYEL+yQoqXa2d6rG+X+aIYcHvrVQpBWZkZc5gz3MaxY JfLq8a+GZTy/Xih/pTxVQaslWaeKaYiMElzVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.37.37 with SMTP id p37mr4443918waj.11.1258048663608; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:57:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20091112134701.GA66194@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:27:43 +0530 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: usleepless@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where's my konqueror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:57:44 -0000 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:50 PM, wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra >wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Anton Shterenlikht > > > wrote: > > > I installed kdebase-4.3.1_1, but cannot find konqueror. > > > It's supposed be a part of kdebase, isn't it? > > > > % grep konqueror /usr/ports/x11/kdebase4/pkg-plist > > bin/konqueror > > lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so > > [...] > > > > my 4.3.0 decided to install everything into /usr/local/kde4. so my konq > is > at /usr/local/kde4/bin/konqueror. > > don't know why. didn't dare to ask. > for co-existence with kde3 > > regards, > > usleep > > > > > --Herbert > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 18:28:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0287106566B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A3BE8FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:28:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51721 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Nov 2009 18:28:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1258050490; bh=a/wrYd+6eaa+SUn++DXTwggJ/F3f96uneG0/tNYM+D4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VAg1stZWJOonE03oejD2FOxR19N9XIwd0INegyUEk+y4lL27ZjuwLGPKx75ODIOcjiqWOG0LXoNhvS7Gc2lX0BCL0WaqKASvrt377mJD0Xvyx1jtnZV5jYYNWUKSZczJAv8d5cotyNmDkcEkqfNjnzUX1VsAYxZR8yBBF9bPpp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JEN4tL7WpkH5qx5tV8rkZdgUTXKET8NgnR2lZJ+sOcTo/l3W8bNLmvtkyDeooDIyVItywVv9DL51UVPeh7fBc5RpGL+AToeFqYAbqXwkdV+BZHr5tj/WdU8OvDpwYw55nDWLgypOywQBFwLXJdTGNqxY4i+ESZYv2G75Sxr544I=; Message-ID: <784120.47330.qm@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Yu_gfQ4VM1mtD0X.d_VAYEn.hdCnpMO6V2dSJg5k8udwz9uSDTdvWUcaFOsrevVuQspEl1DGKLxNO6SVw.FN9aO01XBYC0yLSIaeXUIM4Dy1jNf5DH1Oc6fj35ClW_q0eBFqho7_zT2t_NbhsNNvqJrmoNqeOh1B9nBfACkTwL3GLDLg_DiTOJvA1YS60It85GVTJyaJQtir8ITbZbUlPcOWdtVnvTnjVdNkoKpgggOxy61jBDYojgJUfWRHqqzvKuasI86c6QjiolGp3VGgFedr8iMRbfBCOYdm7LjtVg_Sgo0lk37k8HOrKPQa_Q8pAhpOn5V6biqHDzf9kW2EcnP9GYji_ZBtHCWKe6jactuELl8xHJVgSecnagbCdYn2Ww0kcSKr5xgw9tqAC2RyLSnDZxrLeVHk9A79SqDvJiGitHf1VHMpEhIQkWRpKUu6ewWi1b562.KSPEaffGG_piFCjUTZ5pLF3jt32tUk42GzW5v0BpUgTaSrbPzzW3jgOqryp0FdlcLVSUx2yKSs.zAfwmAQL9RgyCF8MfdJEcw6NfBWBxTeZ.cnrTczvGm7GiDtrWSEXw-- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:28:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:28:10 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:28:12 -0000 Hello, On Tuesday, I was all happy that I got APM working on my pre-2000 Compaq Deskpro following these instructions: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=4619 On Wednesday, after configuring the router to wake the server whenever DHCP leases are touched (quick&dirty hack), I was disappointed to learn that "suspend" mode saves only ~1watt over the "inherent" use of the HLT instruction by the kernel. I was expecting a savings of ~6 watts due to the disk spinning down. Approx power consumption (+- 1W): 51 Watts (busy; disk + CPU IIRC; not retested with DVD activity) 35 Watts idle 34 Watts suspend 3 Watts off (Measured using Kill-A-Watt model P4400) Part of the problem may be that I am not using the "on board" IDE controllers: I am using a Promise (Ultra100TX2) PDC20268 I realize the memory can't be shutdown without Hibernation support, but the disks can be spun down manually (using atacontrol): http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1012 However, when I try to do that, I find that the disk wakes within 2 seconds of spinning down. I noticed that the spindowns are logged. Could the log being written be causing the drive to spin up again? apm(4) says that apm gets around that problem by logging the suspend event AFTER waking up. I suppose it would be tricky to concurrently log to spin down of several disks that way. For example: Say disk with /var/log spins down at 00:00:05, but the rarely-used /srv drive spins down at 00:00:07. Should the logging drive defer recording BOTH spin-down messages, or spin-up, then spin-down again at about 00:15:20? Not that important for a 1W savings, but apm says my BIOS supports the following capabilities: global standby state // Supported sleep modes global suspend state resume timer from standby // Resume timer allows sleep to last resume timer from suspend // specific period of time? RI resume from standby // Wake on interrupts, i assume RI resume from suspend Would it be possible to coordinate the cron dameon with the suspend timer? Ie: wake 15 sec- 5min before next cron job? Not worth it without hibernate support though. apm(4) does not mention suspend timers at all. acpi(4) mentions "timer" as a sub-device and feature that can be disabled. 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Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 19:37:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5EF106566B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA7D8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F361E443; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nACJb576001581; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20091112203704.cd1c9dad.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:37:07 -0000 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:40:11 -0500, Carmel wrote: > Well, the results of that test does not exactly exhilarate me. > > # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 > moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy Seems that there's already a moused running. Use "ps ax" to find it PID and simply kill it. I had to do the same to check. Afterwards, enabling moused again is possible. > A common problem in today's society. It reminds me of an old adage: > > Just like with unexploded bombs, Blame is best dealt with by passing it > as quickly as possible to someone else. With the idea in mind that responsibility for confirming to existing standards is on the manufacturer's side. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 19:42:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C1106566B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tkjacobsen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F998FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so2390017ywh.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:42:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=K9Mms+tN2SJjj+1eneWmrGcezvKhkyf8cgp4mYYhB1E=; b=KM6nC3hGIGAsez3qOPuZSswo6Q2YGaBHq+RfnFP5Hp7kIh7AXUynwol3LSVY0xnQOE 9GDgsiZ26WseLkYqtBXCuG7xSp1wb6/q+MsI3IZsMdnJDrTDxUNT1S64LRJtXEvwxmn3 RBKSbtoIVmKNyK89baft5/CzR3Xhq5JqR6f8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=C6QBYZX5VPANX4wJowIa/uVw4zxMFzNDBeVEHs64FAEcXxZXCVyZiPdlNmbZJmR462 JN0ceE5byuJNkCUgrM4Dv6wYOb4GOdKhtHAcQjfW6+gnonKKzwjRtC/+n3c2kaFltc+4 hsYNdtRX5iPC4vxC4HQ066amwRqd10G4FvT+8= Received: by 10.213.100.168 with SMTP id y40mr3682847ebn.28.1258054943366; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from photon.std (84-238-115-154.u.parknet.dk [84.238.115.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1074170eya.44.2009.11.12.11.42.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:42:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:42:16 +0100 From: Troels Kofoed Jacobsen To: APseudoUtopia Message-ID: <20091112194216.GA1317@photon.std> References: <20091108190613.GA1486@photon.std> <27ade5280911091455u7b82dd83qa6813414754b867c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <27ade5280911091455u7b82dd83qa6813414754b867c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tracking commit messages from cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:42:25 -0000 On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 05:55:57PM -0500, APseudoUtopia wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Troels Kofoed Jacobsen > wrote: > > Hi all > > > > With pkg_version I can easily see which installed ports has newer > > versions available, but what I miss is a way to see what has changed. > > The reason for this is that commit messages often say that only the > > pkg-plist has changed or something that does not make me want to update. > > > > Right now I'm reading the commit messages from the cvs web frontend, but > > it would be awesome with a program that could say: > > gd-2.0.35_1,1 <   needs updating (index has 2.0.35_2,1) > > Commit messages between the versions: > > blah blah blah > > blah ... ... > > ... > > > > I know freshports exist, but I would rather not have to open a web > > browser. > > > > Does such a program exist or do I have to write my own. In the latter > > case can anyone point me to an easy way to get raw-text versions of > > commit messages without having to track the whole tree. Does freshports > > e.g. have an api -- it has all the necessary information, just not > > available in a suitable form (to my knowledge) > > > > Best regards > > Troels Kofoed Jacobsen > > I asked this question some time ago and never got a response. I > currently just use a browser and visit www.freebsd.org/ports/ and read > the commit log there. So far, I haven't found any other alternative. If anyone's interested I've hacked together a small python script doing this: https://www.student.dtu.dk/~s052580/?page=software/commitmessages Best regards Troels Kofoed Jacobsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 20:21:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92119106568D for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456638FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP88 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:21:20 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [67.189.183.172] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([67.189.183.172]) by BLU0-SMTP88.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:21:19 -0800 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E164D2283B for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:18 -0500 From: Carmel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091112203704.cd1c9dad.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20091112203704.cd1c9dad.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2009 20:21:19.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[B20E5CB0:01CA63D5] Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:21:21 -0000 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:04 +0100 Polytropon Polytropon replied: >> Well, the results of that test does not exactly exhilarate me. >> >> # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 >> moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy > >Seems that there's already a moused running. Use "ps ax" to >find it PID and simply kill it. I had to do the same to >check. Afterwards, enabling moused again is possible. 'moused' was running. I have no idea why though. I did not start it. Anyway, I killed it, confirmed it was dead, and then ran the command: moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 It failed again with a 'device busy' message. -- Carmel carmel_ny@hotmail.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | IBM Pollyanna Principle: Machines should work. People should think. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 20:43:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2425106568D for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF1E8FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nACKhfAP073976; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:43:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nACKhfco073973; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:43:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:43:41 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091112203704.cd1c9dad.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20091112203704.cd1c9dad.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:43:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: Carmel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:43:45 -0000 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:40:11 -0500, Carmel wrote: >> Well, the results of that test does not exactly exhilarate me. >> >> # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 >> moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy > > Seems that there's already a moused running. Common with USB mice. /etc/defaults/rc.conf has moused_nondefault_enable="YES", and rc.conf(5) says: "Having this variable set to YES allows a usb(4) mouse, for example, to be enabled as soon as it is plugged in. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 12 21:05:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DC61065672 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79578FC08 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-97-236.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.97.236]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0671EA7F; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:04:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nACL4sZs001860; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:04:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:04:54 +0100 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20091112220454.f0028984.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20091112203704.cd1c9dad.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Carmel Subject: Re: Cut/Paste with USB mouse inoperative X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:05:01 -0000 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:18 -0500, Carmel wrote: > 'moused' was running. I have no idea why though. I did not start it. It surely was usbd. > Anyway, I killed it, confirmed it was dead, and then ran the command: > > moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 > > It failed again with a 'device busy' message. Then there's something wrong. It should look like this: # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy # ps ax | grep mouse 646 ?? Is 0:03.63 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I /var/run/mou # kill -9 646 # moused -f -d -p /dev/ums0 moused: proto params: f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff moused: port: /dev/ums0 interface: usb type: sysmouse model: generic moused: received char 0x87 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0xff moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x7f moused: assembled full packet (len 8) 87,0,ff,0,0,0,0,7f moused: ts: 5396 251403094 moused: flags:80000000 buttons:00000000 obuttons:00000000 moused: activity : buttons 0x00000000 dx 0 dy 1 dz 0 moused: received char 0x87 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0xff moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0xff moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x7f moused: assembled full packet (len 8) 87,0,ff,0,ff,0,0,7f moused: ts: 5396 261402131 moused: flags:80000000 buttons:00000000 obuttons:00000000 moused: activity : buttons 0x00000000 dx 0 dy 2 dz 0 [...] moused: assembled full packet (len 8) 86,0,0,0,0,0,0,7f moused: ts: 5397 608884283 moused: : 5395 429419435 moused: flags:00000004 buttons:00000004 obuttons:00000000 moused: activity : buttons 0x00000004 dx 0 dy 0 dz 0 moused: mstate[2]->count:1 moused: button 3 count 1 moused: received char 0x87 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x0 moused: received char 0x7f moused: assembled full packet (len 8) 87,0,0,0,0,0,0,7f moused: ts: 5397 756882422 moused: flags:00000004 buttons:00000000 obuttons:00000004 moused: activity : buttons 0x00000000 dx 0 dy 0 dz 0 moused: mstate[2]->count:1 moused: button 3 count 0 ^C # moused -p /dev/ums0 (I just started moused again manually, sufficient.) Everything is done as root, of course. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 06:06:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC3C106566C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackbarnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0924D8FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so2799595ywh.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=GvuReTlh+Aa/oQVJs0g7IrvUEu6ayeUCNqY/bVqIQc8=; b=jG5x1lmeqDZa7D8qBnBmupcwRYf2jRW7F1itJ68EF37Y/oNWlSFO5u6HpNRsv1x/tf JfOXweGZgZkASE+DBHtTqpzG9lLRToGbdvdL7ffzWAeFdgl61HISyRaxkpOjJYtXXTe/ J2MyZ1NWNGI7rByxKaOg7KVFFTRvKWsiHqF0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=prGSllCRnDcvp+rRAhNTUGA1aDXJKtg8dGZSlxHY3lbR3RuNNrFYJ/IUXvQavixol3 pff6vevrgOiseSp3an9oQDHerAxRiW5Zykh1lyWD7fvsICkmBzLc5oml9UV1o4+kNcLr FYj8Aokm8P8R03VathmB4mArrRwalK1Dwt/cY= Received: by 10.150.105.7 with SMTP id d7mr33068ybc.331.1258092398077; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?98.240.166.249? (c-98-240-166-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [98.240.166.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm1321529ywe.26.2009.11.12.22.06.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:06:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFCF76A.2020100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:06:34 -0600 From: Jack Barnett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080124) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Rawling References: <4AFB3A2A.4040303@brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atom based servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jackbarnett@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:06:39 -0000 Curious, how did you get it installed? My motherboard doesn't have an IDE port (so, no IDE CD-ROM) and don't think booting from USB-CDROM is supported Booting from USB Flash drive works? David Rawling wrote: > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Brian Whalen >> Sent: Thu 12/11/2009 9:26 AM >> >> I see supermicro and potentially others have atom servers available, >> anyone tried these on freebsd with success? >> >> Brian >> > > Hi Brian > > Indeed, I have a FreeBSD 8.0RC1 system running as my primary time > server for the home network. Since it's an Atom 330, it fully > supports 64-bit mode (an opportunity I have grasped with both hands). > > The board I happen to be using is an Intel DG945GCLF2 - a clone > board with just 1 DIMM slot and two SATA ports. Everything I need > to have supported Just Worked out of the box. > > The server itself is running at a very low load level: > > timeserver ~ 15> uptime > 1:00PM up 6 days, 12:38, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > I can provide the output of most any other commands if you'd like > to see anything specific. I rather suspect that the Supermicro and > other server-class Atoms will still be using the Intel 945 or > similar chipsets. > > Dave. > -- > David Rawling > PD Consulting And Security > Email: djr@pdconsec.net > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 10:06:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF11106566C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theultramage@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B075F8FC13 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so3392868fxm.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:06:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Yp77KCUbrE5qtDUnSGtOf629uQRtYD2PIMXo6u65uac=; b=N3rXD0C1XhxM3SCnYc/WNQV1Z89tWNPWQ8FGhCTKNQme7gYFBi/6ZEEMzO99kfjkaV 9BeUnNrP6RiYVeZ8AS8WrBfkfkMd0woOOZNKQhTPZEYS5zI1IVtep+LPOSPKSgNhGiwa fuuCPp1V/ykNionAT8CffJXIZI5Mna2JscVmA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LnBAAU9dYJzXmIedPWieDGYzzqecA1JgsuVHaFPVsRdIy2a4A6bGrydmP7ErCgPy+T 4G3OVb1Vs2737vxd4HAiG8Mqs6iqr+TiUI7FGnLc8iOiFGr0PbuiI2hgBpicIMuuhvsb wcmv+aXJks5KN0QPjYYj6h3anC9HVpj7l2cGo= Received: by 10.204.153.217 with SMTP id l25mr4791477bkw.108.1258106808699; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.31? ([217.75.87.14]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm1693947fkt.46.2009.11.13.02.06.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:06:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4AFD2F9E.2080405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:06:22 +0100 From: umage User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4pre) Gecko/20090915 Thunderbird/3.0b4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4AF57EB4.3070104@gmail.com> <20091107180710.GA1056@jason-helfmans-macbook-pro.local> <4AF5BB31.5090304@gmail.com> <4AF7620A.9010709@gmail.com> <4AFAE13F.1040703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFAE13F.1040703@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: networking won't come back up until reboot after ISP outage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:06:50 -0000 >Sounds like you are narrowing down the culprit(s). Also note that it could >possibly be a timing issue related to the order things start up. If the NATD >is attempting to start before the interface has come up it will die. /etc/rc.d/natd has no REQUIRE section, so it is indeed possible for it to activate right at the very start. It also has a 'precmd' that checks for dhcp interfaces and sets up the -dynamic flag. Might be related. I have no way of knowing though, unless I add some debug messages and figure out to log them. I added "REQUIRE: NETWORKING" and now I'm waiting to see if the issue appears again. It's a tedious procedure... and the fact that sometimes, this causes named to not work isn't helping either. >You can use something like natd_flags="-l" in /etc/rc.conf. I have tried this, and the only thing it logs are nat rules that get set up at startup time. I could not find anything that would turn on actual status messages for this process... PS: Is there a way to turn on logging on the entire rc startup procedure? There are a lot of messages that get printed onto the physical screen, but none of them actually end up in /var/log/messages. None of the three 'rc_debug', 'rc_info' or 'rc_startmsgs' do it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 13:13:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E706106566B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djr@pdconsec.net) Received: from ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60B28FC1B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:23 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMLo/EqWZcBC/2dsb2JhbADVKoQ8BIFt Received: from goliath.pdconsec.net (HELO smtp.pdconsec.net) ([150.101.192.66]) by ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 23:43:21 +1030 Received: from mail1.pdconsec.net ([192.168.1.41] helo=mail1.pdconsec.net) with IPv4:25 by smtp.pdconsec.net; 13 Nov 2009 22:48:26 +1100 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:09:53 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: atom based servers Thread-Index: AcpkJ4cr2W5fOWjcQmeHBdGcMlODpgAOw/NW References: <4AFB3A2A.4040303@brianwhalen.net> <4AFCF76A.2020100@gmail.com> From: "David Rawling" To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: atom based servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:13:24 -0000 Jack Barnett opined: >Curious, how did you get it installed? I used the AMD64 MemStick image on a Corsair 2GB key. It's one I had lying around and that wasn't 8x larger than the image. >My motherboard doesn't have an IDE port (so, no IDE CD-ROM) and don't=20 >think booting from USB-CDROM is supported > >Booting from USB Flash drive works? It did for me - I never had an intention of putting an optical drive in that server (none of my servers have opticals any more). Nothing strange in the BIOS - just the normal boot options. IME these things are finally getting to the "just works" stage. Thankfully! Dave. -- David Rawling PD Consulting And Security Email: djr@pdconsec.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 15:26:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7027F1065670 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masoom.shaikh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F4C8FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so2309283pzk.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TNxon8OwwOHhR6pJ3ohn3QuOn4pJsDLUP5TBlfNIz1Y=; b=Sw07j1JkrHVfT91dwJQ4chFfnJ2UUuFI970RCdE3k4h16+U7Gx2aEiy+Q4CXMeC2NP X1s///v9jGt1KRmJMY23+7scNdnrcGNZ33o3i8KCZqbHozJwdI0qp9Q3MjvyxHOKPsJm VSvne8GJMJVC/7evTWgjAp66eVmeciTFwiDV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=xlQt285eeokBIGCoPlLar5eXFq4JiauTHux/N0OMXulDTKnNJUPMHjul7eDsoj+ex1 R8TFHUa0Gomde1Nsk2UtPhhmNrWhegCsX9GvYbfllcsB2rSaUQfcJziQNlV8vGCrfw5K 7Z5noMzgla4c98yx2dELJoWR0ajc55HL8GcfI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.188.17 with SMTP id l17mr6839813waf.135.1258126015481; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200911090841.44250.npapke@acm.org> References: <200911090841.44250.npapke@acm.org> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:26:55 +0000 Message-ID: From: Masoom Shaikh To: Norbert Papke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8.0-RC2 problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:26:56 -0000 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Norbert Papke wrote: > On November 6, 2009, Masoom Shaikh wrote: > > > problem # 1 > > The problem is KDE4 is not able to display anti aliased fonts. I have > made > > the required changes to make it work, of course, in System Settings -> > > Appearance -> Fonts > > Hinting -> Full, and there is is one more option, the name i cannot > recall > > ATM, I have set it to RGB. DPI to 96......this is has worked for all > > combination of installs I have used so far, viz KDE3 on FreeBSD-6.x to > > KDE4.1.x on FreeBSD-7.x and KDE4.2 on FreeBSD-8.0RC1 > > My guess is that "print/freetype2" is not built with anti-aliasing support. > Rebuild it specifying "WITH_LCD_FILTERING" . > > See also http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=139603 > > Cheers, > > -- Norbert Papke. > npapke@acm.org > > > http://saveournet.ca > Protecting your Internet's level playing field > this time I reverted back to FreeBSD-7.2 untill 8.0 I have same observations, KDE4 based apps are not anti-aliased, but GTK based are, since fonts look excellant in Firefox-3.5.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 17:06:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0099B106566B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 820FF8FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75627 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 17:06:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fqkteD1/MyweIPtKeiDLnEkNKoYcJAQFPgyITyYvo6q9opiLX1urXxVujYd0uGyRmThBd6Ig2BW6728K1PPaNNogseccqrlP1Lp7KQTUidgAnmX6KQENYpyo5O8gw+pjWY6EgDkHYDS/YYq3qIHCiMP9hhMXogDEUOKEVuYrHu8= ; Received: from c-67-189-183-172.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.183.172 with login) by smtp108.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Nov 2009 09:06:00 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: 6kDvw6MVM1mLCcn.iDpJ2z5_JUMSpOkortQAuxwdqQVvZUSPXjECn.Ohr7BkIDKe.jo3Jl3FuDodh4oI1vIXzPkrlUJGzBIx4SVdtSKJM4uMnQLoXs4b8JCw.oqsBlrkpz9m2yd.qH.la2ImGD8iksI2On8Wcjws9dRb2yjKEUcGbJhAQPtQwMZFC1ZRuGNaIY.Z23cH8Mqr7YzNtgdxsAtS7yzmRNPKMD2d9g2Tjx3DR3QzDJOlVE6ds4mWFA7uW_OlqF6KU5TULRKUHmI208m0G3YkBnbwBVem5ik04gdOGldTncpXXZvxHwweeMEco26GZxNQeDA32DRmz.hJccozvZdg5zj4NhKnE2B9Kjr3mYjyYXbUaLqCA6NvrwtwpKHo.8_ocPEwqMc1Yw.1G6xzFAbu03YSBR0YFh8A0.BDC5k9Hkdj X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43C6C22841 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:06:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:05:59 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091113120559.367d800d@scorpio.seibercom.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ATI Eyefinity support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:06:02 -0000 I recently came across this web page regarding ATI: http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx Is this supported under FreeBSD also? -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | No one gets sick on Wednesdays. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 19:06:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3409106566B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6908FC24 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KT200H2IAE9J8B0@VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:06:10 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <4AFDF472.7040805@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:06:10 -0500 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20091113120559.367d800d@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-reply-to: <20091113120559.367d800d@scorpio.seibercom.net> Subject: Re: ATI Eyefinity support in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:06:10 -0000 Jerry wrote: > I recently came across this web page regarding ATI: > > http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx > > Is this supported under FreeBSD also? > > Hey, this is indeed very interesting. But did you read the fine print at the bottom of the page? "Linux support scheduled to be enabled via a future ATI Catalystâ„¢ driver release." Nobody cares about us FreeBSD fraks... :'( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 20:15:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0A61065672 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EDEC28FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 92997 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Nov 2009 20:15:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1258143353; bh=ld+U1NLxQDMBCUDIZKNvgX8uC5K+sK6mOaxebv3xizI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6kpQqBbViVkAe6YfdwLXuKmbCMJHxaM6ejpNSJxEqle4vhto5Nmy61jkAESHI26bcMVk89zejEjiLovKEhMw4QetaIj22aYhrVa9z08GXVyggyrpA2ne5iDtQy7CiaeY0+LRJa53rKHivIb5VYQFDDuSZT9Pcoh1CbCQjU8xCV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h6/GijWjqX9mTMxeiTEY/VhgRRNq9lnmrJz//S2LnLe5U6rKRFew2/kZjBXfvgd37ih2o/mXDkYlmuRew5L7ztbbOGcPTUw8Hdgs2ngCYm5D1O3zdTLwAjF5MtgQ01r+B1zzZ4HdmbmfKkTaqzJ1or6ehFEj29qeRAjmK3KYzxk=; Message-ID: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZGITiTIVM1kzc9H2bDYgO6wpYqEficypMy5yZouvI57D31RevxIS8mYxtwoyGeeQmcygIm56a6ZGNaibPgtdD3x0N6NOln.bwNjaXb6qb82Uq6cK7ZGOIXSpiCwDdw5USsJaLH2KbHjDNclmm9Kra2IDEtWs3NFeYBfNlyvLwOO.vnwTRJil4XKcENzDHjc55zG_aPYJr_SUuI4aL4HcLIE.QQFYT30LmcV.dfQVLgzskldWv4N.z9PJemtMEr5F5B0gC6xqVCspikk4mqa.57KWxSyoUUKrA7qbQjMCLJlqvh5Ta9BM_WIaEPX6ytwf3kMTVM19m9T6j.EQ8ZPLxANCfOcpalaIGVWP_1_XlF3zZqAM_uUEP0FSo2K2E_pnBjl2g1fHGi5PNfslMH4nr5CLEquQ5hHb7.4l4xnMpe9YqiL3_XOV2imF5qJXKB3uxvtk Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:15:53 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:15:53 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20091113120016.DDE941065720@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:15:56 -0000 > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:28:10 -0800 (PST) > From: James Phillips > Subject: APM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <784120.47330.qm@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > I realize the memory can't be shutdown without Hibernation > support, but the disks can be spun down manually (using > atacontrol): > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1012 > > However, when I try to do that, I find that the disk wakes > within 2 seconds of spinning down. I noticed that the > spindowns are logged. Could the log being written be causing > the drive to spin up again? I initially set the time-out to 60 seconds, then 300 seconds in a vain attempt to see the actual power savings. With a 900 second time-out, the drive only spun down once in the past 12 hours. It appears that syslogd can defer *one* log entry. Understandable, since you don't want to loose too many logs in a power failure. tail /var/log/messages (trimmed entries from the 300 second time-out): Nov 13 07:46:59 dusty kernel: ad4: Idle, spin down Nov 13 07:46:59 dusty kernel: wakeup from sleeping state (slept 00:35:44) Nov 13 07:47:01 ad4: request while spun down, starting. It looks like the logging of the "spin down" woke up the sleeping system. Either that, or the computer did not know the actual spin-down time. The sleep time was reported to be 2144 seconds: 1244 seconds longer than the the set spin-down time (900 seconds). If it was spun-down when I checked this morning, the difference was less than 3W. Though, the current drive (5400RPM) uses ~2 fewer watts than the old (7200 RPM) drive. I'm an not sure, since I replaced RAM, and installed an optical drive since measuring my base-line (with the old drive). My computer case has noise-dampening foam for the hard-disk. I can't hear if the drive is spinning over the inverter in the ADSL modem (9W) and the (quiet) fan noise from both the router (21W) and server. I can heard a "click" when it starts up, that is about it. Regards, James Phillips __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 20:28:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5091065672 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnodal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f182.google.com (mail-px0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A118FC08 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so2680529pxi.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:28:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=KBD/1IPkPpHCCFYxpd09yyf5Dxno2ROfOM8r1T0soEY=; b=CVizd9mwkhM1iBcFmJa2eL2A0dJZ7OpNt+pD11wyR0Bz1BSUbEJjTQ/hM2ZFN3gWog 1/rn6REh17h7mCAjgJsvKeh4Fbh1lPPBFB7RrdEWkMDZSEOpgiqFjPEYWiyhWXSb7IWy Sf0EmPGmWFZrYSnSQjo11pAyJ/1zvDoWRDevE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Ou75/IeSy38LYnUOR3BULNJlvyk7g2xQynKzNhbOdAybamAgscRuaKebKIiLqPvk7+ NDVZHEszMG6ZLgS9tBenBvNjzDGijxU2Cw2LWqGXnRwIz++h7FlllrpSn+TwSKGfkR1/ /h2aUUvnG+CpJrY/q0oKzaapa1qmdRVKLNf8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.98.40 with SMTP id a40mr8339498wam.97.1258144104047; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:28:24 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:28:24 -0000 Hello all, I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD. I found the following guide: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/ which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder if maybe there is an easier way. The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big slice that covers the entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have /usr/local in a separate slice. Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed. (trying to be prepared before attempting anything) Thank you, -r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 20:57:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BB1106566B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julien@gormotte.info) Received: from mail.gormotte.info (rei.gormotte.info [95.130.11.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D35F8FC1C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.5]) by mail.gormotte.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3306958E for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:38:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gormotte.info Received: from mail.gormotte.info ([10.0.0.5]) by localhost (mail.gormotte.info [10.0.0.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HLI3wjcwpVxd for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www (www [10.0.0.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.gormotte.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0330D9554 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 89-159-23-225.rev.dartybox.com (89-159-23-225.rev.dartybox.com [89.159.23.225]) by horde.gormotte.info (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:38:22 +0100 Message-ID: <20091113213822.64205u9aiv1nwpcs@horde.gormotte.info> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:38:22 +0100 From: Julien Gormotte To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Dynamic Internet Messaging Program (DIMP) H3 (1.1.3) Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:57:07 -0000 Roger a écrit : > Hello all, > > I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD. > I found the following guide: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/ > which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that > I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder > if maybe there is an easier way. > > The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big > slice that covers the > entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have > /usr/local > in a separate slice. > > Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed. > (trying to be prepared before attempting anything) > > Thank you, > -r > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > AFAIK, it's not possible to install a BSD system from a linux system. I searched some time, and it does not seem to be possible. Finally, I used mfsBSD to install. I booted on a rescue disk (Linux), then, I did : dd if=mfsBSD.img | ssh remotehost dd of=/dev/sda Then, a reboot, and I accessed the system via ssh. Julien Gormotte ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 21:01:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A24B1065676 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E221D8FC15 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2422447pwj.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:01:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=62pUTOdjvQgjv8m0EtbHgk7ABngpkIbavF7VXtuEvRw=; b=gpzL12R4d8TGwQSYcBYIralKEqiwp9ETeJnJGkRVS1mLPmgyqGXNv2iuoI6MZrGtHJ jpgSEwaBS+8jgK7M2yfibcTpCoPqMA0k8eCQNi/aJLZ28fuyda7oB9EybdSUHGv7YSRH LFo/pdCxdPcVAFzT+4nFvSUGqPsyhlUqJuLJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qWrOAc/dixLUBLFoWr8f4SjEL27UXzU0a+ff+18BtavuHvklQ9wncptpo1tkOP5O9Z qSZwd0OUlwxDYPIcOUAQSwIiFgEfClSz4dO09PXfjMkzCZvDFXUJfytZkVtAr6dfnkuP /aRLdA/PpiZMAcHqSS/hfqa7nHu8gQAElJ+WI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.247.42 with SMTP id u42mr528934wfh.160.1258146070623; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:01:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091113213822.64205u9aiv1nwpcs@horde.gormotte.info> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> <20091113213822.64205u9aiv1nwpcs@horde.gormotte.info> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:01:10 -0600 Message-ID: <6201873e0911131301w3870244cr255435916364aab8@mail.gmail.com> From: Adam Vande More To: Julien Gormotte Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:01:11 -0000 > > Hello all, >> >> I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install >> FreeBSD. >> I found the following guide: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/ >> which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that >> I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I >> wonder >> if maybe there is an easier way. >> >> The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big >> slice that covers the >> entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have >> /usr/local >> in a separate slice. >> >> Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed. >> (trying to be prepared before attempting anything) >> >> > AFAIK, it's not possible to install a BSD system from a linux system. I > searched some time, and it does not seem to be possible. > Finally, I used mfsBSD to install. I booted on a rescue disk (Linux), then, > I did : > dd if=mfsBSD.img | ssh remotehost dd of=/dev/sda > > Then, a reboot, and I accessed the system via ssh. > Actually is qasi possible http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-01-29-depenguinator-2.0.html But the OP question isn't resolved by that. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 21:21:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183171065676 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout015.mac.com (asmtpout015.mac.com [17.148.16.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060848FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:21:42 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp015.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KT200JHZGO6BI30@asmtp015.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:21:42 -0800 (PST) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: James Phillips In-reply-to: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:21:42 -0800 References: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:21:43 -0000 Hi-- On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:15 PM, James Phillips wrote: > I initially set the time-out to 60 seconds, then 300 seconds in a > vain attempt to see the actual power savings. With a 900 second time- > out, the drive only spun down once in the past 12 hours. > > It appears that syslogd can defer *one* log entry. Understandable, > since you don't want to loose too many logs in a power failure. One of the first things you should consider is either disabling syslogd entirely, or else setup logging to a RAMdisk (ie, have an initial copy of what's in /var on the hard disk, setup a RAMdisk and mount as /var, then copy over the /var tree from hard drive to RAMdisk during early stages of system boot). The advice given for NanoBSD or embedded NetBSD systems about conserving writes to a flash-based filesystem would be helpful in your case. You might also want to note that 2.5" laptop drives are/should be explicitly designed to spin down and park themselves much more often than generic IDE drives are; some generic desktop drives will fail quite rapidly (ie, in a matter of months) if you attempt to spin them down many times a day. You might also give some consideration to trying a Mac Mini with maximum power-savings mode enabled; OSX provides significant amounts of hysteresis to avoid spinning the disks up and down, and will buffer significant amounts of data being changed into RAM to coalesce filesystem activity into fewer periods of disk activity. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 22:21:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9037106566C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BF18FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nADMC7wC027791; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nADMC7uL027790; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:12:06 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Roger Message-ID: <20091113221206.GA27314@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:21:23 -0000 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:28:04PM -0500, Roger wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD. > I found the following guide: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/ > which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that > I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder > if maybe there is an easier way. Well, you say a dedicated server, but you do not say it is remote. The article is for a remote install - that is, one where you cannot put your hands on the actual machine. The article also assumes you are making a raid with gmirror. With just one drive, you can ignore that stuff. If it is really a remote machine, then you will have to go through that stuff about building an mfs and running from it. But, not if you have direct access to the machine. If you can get to it and shut it down and put CDs in it, the process is much more simple. In that case you just do good backups and check them out to make sure they are readable, put the install CD in and boot the machine. That will bring up Sysinstall which will do everything for the main install. Then you will probably want to csup(1) both the base system and the ports tree and rebuild the base according to the handbook. Then install your ports. Finally restore your backups. Or, if you are completely happy with what is currently on the machine and you just want to reorder the partition sizes, then you don't even have to really do any install. Just do the backups, use the 'fixit' disk to run bsdlabel to make the partitions. Newfs(8) the new partitions. Then restore the backups over the top of things. > The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big > slice that covers the > entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have > /usr/local > in a separate slice. Really in a separate slice?? Or do you mean a separate partition. It is possible that you used only a slice and no partitions, but it is not the usual thing. That is kind of halfway to what they call a 'dangerously dedicated' disk in the handbook. Maybe you could call it a dangerously dedicates slice. It isn't really dangerous, but it limits some things you can do and for the disk, makes it so some types of things (that you most likely would never run in to) could not access it. So, Remember, in FreeBSD slices are the primary divisions (identified as 1..4) of the disk and partitions (identified as a..h) are subdivisions of slices. Presuming you are using SATA or IDE disk, the drive is ad0, or if you are using SCSI or SAS disk, the drive is da0. The first single slice is either ad0s1 (or da0s1 for SCSI) thus the 's' in 's1'. Then in s1 you can have partitions a..h except c is reserved, b is best used for swap and a needs to be root. If you have a single slice and no partition, then you would be mounting all of /dev/ad0s1 as /. If you have partitions, then you would be mounting /dev/ad0s1a as /. In any case, it is easy to modify. The only reason you might want a separate second slice on a machine that is only running one version of FreeBSD is if you have used up all the partitions available in slice 1. Do a df -k to see what slices and partitions are in use. If you have partitions use bsdlabel to look at the label in more detail. From root, do: bsdlabel ad0s1 (or da0s1 for SCSI or SAS) Think about how you want the disk divided before you get into the middle of it. If the new /usr/local partition would be too big to fit in the new /usr partition along with the regular /usr stuff, then you will have to split them up before doing the backups. In that case, use tar(1) to make a file that contains all of /usr/local, then rm(1) the contents of /usr/local, then do the backups and go from there - use the bsdlabel from the fixit to rebuild the partitions (and newfs each of them), restore everything over the top, mount that new /usr/local (make sure you still have a /usr/local mount point and that you fix up /etc/fstab for it) and untar that ball you make of /usr/local. If there is plenty of room for it to be in the new /usr temporarily, then just do the backups and then use bsdlabel from the fixit to rebuild the partitions, newfs them and restore them from backups. Then rename the current /usr/local to get it out of the way, remake the /usr/local mountpoint, mount it and then use tar to copy everything from the old /usr/local to the new one. Check it out and then rm the old /usr/local. Again, presuming you have direct access to the machine, Make your backups and put them somewhere away from what you are doing - on tape, or a big USB drive or another machine's disk, etc. I vote for a big cheap USB drive if your machine supports it. Once you have readable backup -- and that /usr/local split out in a separate tar file, if it would be too big, then put in the CD with the fixit. There is a menu item to select that boot. It used to be on CD-1, but you may need to check that in case they moved it. Just put in the CD and boot and see what you get. Select the option and if it gives you a prompt, then you are running from it. It won't hurt your disk at that stage. If you really just have a single slice and no partitions, then your mounts in fstab would be just: /dev/ad0s1 / If you do not have a partition, but are running directly from a slice, eg have an unlabeled slice, then do the following. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0s1 bs=512 count=1024 bsdlabel -w -B ad0s1 bsdlabel -e ad0s1 That will clean up a little, start an initial label on the slice and then put you in to an edit screen. It will look something like: # /dev/ad0s3: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 89867610 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit Edit that file so you have partitions you want Do NOT modify the c: line then write and exit. In vi, that would, of course, be ESC:wq that will write the label to the slice on the disk. If you already have partitions - eg there was an ad0s1a mounted to / Then skip the dd and the first bsdlabel and just do: bsdlabel -e ad0s1 You will get the partition edit screen about the same as before but it will have the current partitions in it, something like: # /dev/ad0s3: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 786432 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 49160 b: 2572288 786432 swap c: 89867610 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 1048576 3358720 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 e: 6291456 4407296 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 f: 6291456 10698752 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 72877402 16990208 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 NOTE: All these sizes and offsets are given in blocks of 512 bytes. You will need to modify these to make room for your /usr/local Do NOT modify the c: line One advantage of the new bsdlabel is that it will calculate offsets and the final partition for you - just put a '*' in the field. Note: On the disk above these partitions are currently mounted as: a: / b: swap d: /tmp e: /usr f: /var g: /home So, to squeeze in a partition for /usr/local you might do this: I will make it 2 GB in partition g: and that makes /home go to h: # /dev/ad0s3: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 786432 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 49160 b: 2572288 * swap c: 89867610 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 1048576 * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 8 e: 6291456 * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 f: 6291456 * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 g: 4194304 * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 h: * * 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28552 This way, bsdlabel will calculate the offsets correctly and put all available remaining space in the last (h:) partition. Now my mounts (in fstab) would need to be: a: / b: swap d: /tmp e: /usr f: /var g: /usr/local h: /home You can divide this up however you want. You could put just the swap (you really should have a good amount of swap) and your /usr/local separately and all the rest in partition a: if you want. Then you would only have partitions a:, b: and d: To mount as: a: / b: swap d: /usr/local eg, following rebuilding the partitions, including creating the new /usr/local partition and restoring the backups, do the following. cd /usr mv local oldlocal mkdir local mount /dev/ad0s1g /usr/local (I just pulled a partition 'g' out of the air. Use what you actually make it) cd /usr/oldlocal tar cvpf /usr/local/loc.tar cd /usr/local tar xvpf loc.tar Now, check it out and make sure files in the new /usr/local are good cd /usr rm -rf oldlocal cd /usr/local rm loc.tar Then you should be good to go. > > Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed. > (trying to be prepared before attempting anything) The main thing is to do backups that are stored on media off the unit you are modifying. Use dump(8) and restore(8). ////jerry > > Thank you, > -r > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 22:48:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B23B106566B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DD88FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2470853pwj.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:48:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ePsdwgU5JC2XaAx3clChfZKTIB3hTudZCLsoA+mecIE=; b=AY/6fgXfR43KQtyy9/Tfe2i4LdRCWZYnDjB73Np+8U8E/HWH7CqdYT8qkWxIf+NHpF b2nRQ5DiTbQm1dfbX3PTdk1b8RVfkUFbGp1Yzp1b1h1uTBIFKdYPI+D9CTja+vA6OJz8 9lWMaevhn9CYhwaFsgqZi/aaA8gv7VJhxh8rs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lj8swhhM/UMhLQLgk9l11Yia48GGVQDO0C9eTHJaPECvivYKaPFBzVysAA4dt+cid9 6k/0Cjakeg+G1dtecKKfnlt15Tvr6lm0zO8vxRRSlUsmGCbfe1iN5xVh4qG2X3+els0c uHYkOjGC5zi+McdD3sTQpADJiuwR8Hy0Ej7mo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.59.20 with SMTP id h20mr500354wfa.279.1258152504795; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:48:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:48:24 -0700 Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0911131448h3444444ag67ad05bbbf7df60@mail.gmail.com> From: David Allen To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Phillips Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:25 -0000 On 11/13/09, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:15 PM, James Phillips wrote: >> I initially set the time-out to 60 seconds, then 300 seconds in a >> vain attempt to see the actual power savings. With a 900 second time- >> out, the drive only spun down once in the past 12 hours. >> >> It appears that syslogd can defer *one* log entry. Understandable, >> since you don't want to loose too many logs in a power failure. > > One of the first things you should consider is either disabling > syslogd entirely, or else setup logging to a RAMdisk (ie, have an > initial copy of what's in /var on the hard disk, setup a RAMdisk and > mount as /var, then copy over the /var tree from hard drive to RAMdisk > during early stages of system boot). There are options available in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to do just that, but how does one copy over the contents of /var at system boot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 22:48:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007C41065676 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [74.1.12.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930478FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51266 invoked by uid 1008); 13 Nov 2009 23:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@74.1.12.115) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 13 Nov 2009 23:37:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4AFDDBF7.2090203@el.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:21:43 -0500 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: vpn or adhoc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:48:26 -0000 hi all... wondering if somebody has done vpn between a bsd box and a portable device running windows mobile. is it possible? looking at the wireless networking off the handbook gives a direct example with 2 bsd machines. the bsd machine and the wireless device are hooked up now adhoc. they always going to be close to each other and there is no need of infrastructure mode at present time. if vpn is an overkill in this case what would be the best way to lock down the adhoc connection to be only between this two piers and isolate anybody else that wants to get on... thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 22:55:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D9B106566C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com (asmtpout019.mac.com [17.148.16.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54EB8FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:36 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp019.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KT20053FL0CC040@asmtp019.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:55:25 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <07E2B7F8-3B7B-4B1C-AE6E-B5219BEDE769@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: David Allen In-reply-to: <2daa8b4e0911131448h3444444ag67ad05bbbf7df60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:55:24 -0800 References: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2daa8b4e0911131448h3444444ag67ad05bbbf7df60@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Phillips Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:55:36 -0000 Hi, David-- On Nov 13, 2009, at 2:48 PM, David Allen wrote: > There are options available in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to do just that, > but how does one copy over the contents of /var at system boot? I'd consider adding something to /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal (which normally mounts the local filesystems) to setup a RAMdisk on /var and then do "rsync -a /var_template /var" (or use a dump/restore or tar pipeline). Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 23:13:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4877F106566B for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFA18FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id nADNAjje028091; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id nADNAj4F028090; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:10:45 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Roger Message-ID: <20091113231045.GB28030@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> <20091113221206.GA27314@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091113221206.GA27314@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:13:04 -0000 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:12:06PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:28:04PM -0500, Roger wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD. > > I found the following guide: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/ > > which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that > > I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder > > if maybe there is an easier way. > > Well, you say a dedicated server, but you do not say it is remote. > The article is for a remote install - that is, one where you cannot > put your hands on the actual machine. I just noticed your subject line. You should really put all relevant information in the body of your post and not depend on the subject line doing any more than filtering. Anyway, if it is really remote, then take that article seriously but for only one disk, forget the gmirror raid stuff. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 13 23:54:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C1E106566C for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A558FC1A for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so2559116pzk.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:54:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CThJKrT9XH30udhmsTo6Au4ffkVJlWMwCQDQAbMnykk=; b=bvt0W5NLU7lY0jGYSHXIko5rEQs0L2ER9YO47NYkzeS2oIMWXGtgyKO+o4C09zw5sE 8dX19esWm7xpi/pFUlfB9Wj549njo6VaPSqIRpZRqfyXGUAcy5fq0LdkrSNXC72I2t3+ RK+8afxQDSzynWxcuQJThwI5mCNSKvPupdKyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ypoy33NobfYPEQqGyoJ99oHHuZ/W4dPrykDR3829NiJWo9aQbDIC5+rK1V++TTnede fz0elw9FrAiWWfBNjThCObW6I7JV2ivDkc5Ti6IwGsN139GHw/GUOisn2zXZfHL68rpT cSscus5fhiShRbdVMrGOqOCTTrGyVsPgdMG04= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.5.29 with SMTP id 29mr536490wfe.75.1258156449366; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:54:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <07E2B7F8-3B7B-4B1C-AE6E-B5219BEDE769@mac.com> References: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2daa8b4e0911131448h3444444ag67ad05bbbf7df60@mail.gmail.com> <07E2B7F8-3B7B-4B1C-AE6E-B5219BEDE769@mac.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:54:09 -0700 Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0911131554g1e13bdbbh123f52fb2572d5a0@mail.gmail.com> From: David Allen To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Phillips Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:54:10 -0000 On 11/13/09, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi, David-- > > On Nov 13, 2009, at 2:48 PM, David Allen wrote: >> There are options available in /etc/defaults/rc.conf to do just that, >> but how does one copy over the contents of /var at system boot? > > I'd consider adding something to /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal (which > normally mounts the local filesystems) to setup a RAMdisk on /var and > then do "rsync -a /var_template /var" (or use a dump/restore or tar > pipeline). At the risk of sounding obtuse while asking for more help, I can work out the rsync or dump part, but the rest I don't get. The mountcritremote essentially just does a mount -a -t ..., yes? To insert a few mdmfs commands followed by rsync commands, for example, would require re-writing most the script. Is there a better place to this? The reason I ask is that some time ago I had a look at nanobsd which is designed to run on RO flash media. The /var and /tmp directories are created as memory devices that supposedly get re-populated from a /cfg directory at boot. The /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd/nanobsd.sh setup script has a function named setup_nanobsd_etc. Essentially, it writes out an /etc/fstab file and does a 'touch /etc/diskless'. Unless there's magic that happens behind the scenes with that /etc/diskless file, I don't see how anything gets re-populated. Put simply, I'm stuck somewhere between that script and your suggestions thus far. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 00:02:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4192C1065676 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout012.mac.com (asmtpout012.mac.com [17.148.16.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0738FC14 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:02:02 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.227.140.124]) by asmtp012.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KT2006KHO2ZY780@asmtp012.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:01:47 -0800 (PST) Message-id: From: Chuck Swiger To: David Allen In-reply-to: <2daa8b4e0911131554g1e13bdbbh123f52fb2572d5a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:01:46 -0800 References: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2daa8b4e0911131448h3444444ag67ad05bbbf7df60@mail.gmail.com> <07E2B7F8-3B7B-4B1C-AE6E-B5219BEDE769@mac.com> <2daa8b4e0911131554g1e13bdbbh123f52fb2572d5a0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Phillips Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:02:02 -0000 Hi-- On Nov 13, 2009, at 3:54 PM, David Allen wrote: >> I'd consider adding something to /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal (which >> normally mounts the local filesystems) to setup a RAMdisk on /var and >> then do "rsync -a /var_template /var" (or use a dump/restore or tar >> pipeline). > > At the risk of sounding obtuse while asking for more help, I can work > out the rsync or dump part, but the rest I don't get. The > mountcritremote essentially just does a mount -a -t ..., yes? To > insert a few mdmfs commands followed by rsync commands, for example, > would require re-writing most the script. Is there a better place to > this? Quite possibly. I used NetBSD for a flash-based Soerkris boxes a while back, rather than NanoBSD. It looks like reading /etc/ rc.initdiskless might be informative. > The reason I ask is that some time ago I had a look at nanobsd which > is designed to run on RO flash media. The /var and /tmp directories > are created as memory devices that supposedly get re-populated from a > /cfg directory at boot. Right... > The /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd/nanobsd.sh setup script has a > function named setup_nanobsd_etc. Essentially, it writes out an > /etc/fstab file and does a 'touch /etc/diskless'. Unless there's > magic that happens behind the scenes with that /etc/diskless file, I > don't see how anything gets re-populated. The existence of /etc/diskless means /etc/rc runs /etc/rc.initdiskless: % grep diskless /etc/rc dlv=`/sbin/sysctl -n vfs.nfs.diskless_valid 2> /dev/null` if [ ${dlv:=0} -ne 0 -o -f /etc/diskless ]; then sh /etc/rc.initdiskless # Run these after determining whether we are booting diskless in order # to minimize the number of files that are needed on a diskless system, Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 00:42:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6C1065672 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D998FC21 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2515969pwj.3 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:42:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mN0rGZVkWrq7N3ALt5KQ5PS+/q7HQSM1wzuFlLPKwuw=; b=mYcoFUGwUw9PtXboF/NWkJkYjvxjTjk3kYa+OCVejQXLKrYLP3qlfHKGPDnXC6K/5F Lpq8TbNbQmfz0mZ0DNcWUn14YIAAC+3GQ7evBI7Tk0Mufkx3BL6L+9B+euc1R7/ShkiY 4w1+oBoyYaZ/uq3CxGTwJFZSgdqLfydxWiMts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ods90i23UHkQrzL1qI2kUdOHXqPmuFeSZ5OoZQg3SYLSnQNYD/ctQNNzZ9Svip08Yu DGnzyhMFX2U4VUi7glGjYhpkpP2jLYehldbBgKEKRGl12327sJun9+RoVomwUtMpY+Ng e1CA1B+afT669UoP4mFULsZ9RR9QuCLSDL670= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.5.28 with SMTP id 28mr528422wfe.82.1258159350309; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:42:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <474730.92984.qm@web65506.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <2daa8b4e0911131448h3444444ag67ad05bbbf7df60@mail.gmail.com> <07E2B7F8-3B7B-4B1C-AE6E-B5219BEDE769@mac.com> <2daa8b4e0911131554g1e13bdbbh123f52fb2572d5a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:42:30 -0700 Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0911131642p4d5935d1vff9cac77a43610ea@mail.gmail.com> From: David Allen To: Chuck Swiger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, James Phillips Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:42:30 -0000 On 11/13/09, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > On Nov 13, 2009, at 3:54 PM, David Allen wrote: >>> I'd consider adding something to /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal (which >>> normally mounts the local filesystems) to setup a RAMdisk on /var and >>> then do "rsync -a /var_template /var" (or use a dump/restore or tar >>> pipeline). >> >> At the risk of sounding obtuse while asking for more help, I can work >> out the rsync or dump part, but the rest I don't get. The >> mountcritremote essentially just does a mount -a -t ..., yes? To >> insert a few mdmfs commands followed by rsync commands, for example, >> would require re-writing most the script. Is there a better place to >> this? > > Quite possibly. I used NetBSD for a flash-based Soerkris boxes a > while back, rather than NanoBSD. It looks like reading /etc/ > rc.initdiskless might be informative. > >> The reason I ask is that some time ago I had a look at nanobsd which >> is designed to run on RO flash media. The /var and /tmp directories >> are created as memory devices that supposedly get re-populated from a >> /cfg directory at boot. > > Right... > >> The /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd/nanobsd.sh setup script has a >> function named setup_nanobsd_etc. Essentially, it writes out an >> /etc/fstab file and does a 'touch /etc/diskless'. Unless there's >> magic that happens behind the scenes with that /etc/diskless file, I >> don't see how anything gets re-populated. > > The existence of /etc/diskless means /etc/rc runs /etc/rc.initdiskless: Aaaargh! For those following along at home, that's /etc/rc.initdiskless and not /etc/rc.d/somethingdiskless > % grep diskless /etc/rc > dlv=`/sbin/sysctl -n vfs.nfs.diskless_valid 2> /dev/null` > if [ ${dlv:=0} -ne 0 -o -f /etc/diskless ]; then > sh /etc/rc.initdiskless > # Run these after determining whether we are booting diskless in order > # to minimize the number of files that are needed on a diskless system, The answer finally appears! A note to the OP. The only way I've found to keep a disk spun down under FreeBSD is using memory devices for both /var and /tmp. Disabling syslogd isn't enough, nor is modifying /etc/crontab, root's crontab (or even disabling cron) to limit disk access. But to use memory devices and have a "normal" system, you'll need to re-populate both /var and /tmp at startup. Which, it turns out, means starting with /etc/diskless. Someone should add a section named "Non-Diskless Diskless Operation" to the Handbook. Thanks again for all the help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 03:50:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E476106566B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9E758FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21980 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2009 03:50:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1258170623; bh=kwJuuUIqtDEpv+2dDG3/D06rkhCuCuZ5XZm+V0RKJmA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4MfaJBWpeCZVYqJgS8m3wRCTXS4jfKkE6tjD2rCIsOASR6ham8i81N+ev/66wKuECB+4+xeLqrsRPmxLnsC3HvPghvcgpC8yyl2onKb2IiQmYA19hlM8eITtMaDDgkVOCfucIsHWM5xJjZtLyHeCQ62nZYhQmRtHPZ718fyMedA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tGgBLf8zBHSg+pmyJvwswdJhiBwBsw+E5OQ9qIVgtB8s7W1G/9Em1wPnfgsxtWNjyAwU1/j2D2KQJ9tG9SSDxRL9Zav55C45WDXVLw4zwd8/0hySHw29xwJYoXmQzxtZOG6axeppVNbIlSwCVLPT2liC4YrwLSWRvoaWLRFjdnc=; Message-ID: <695093.21975.qm@web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: tgtt2hoVM1nfIyHYGHk8e7_hUe6CFT0vA.3ieTtKHkjvlv8vrZmnuT_JrTZwQY_5oPCFHkjB6XUAS9NAWN9597YR5xJNDDpwpuVhXwrT96lCngzEQ.c5gsawsZGxM5t0_wp_P6UUPuJ_l5fTVQmk9e1l5mON1DMIMijfvMUt2o5eOBTkpYY3HCbxjrLuxotyWqwc42BWfMSy1aRSrBd0mPwN_FPaOlojhbayChyLphd_BCrs_8enLMz8G0bVGXtHLDOOyxwxlf3w4ZRn9KBd_k9l_D9RtePLvcR9P8ahKCTS8Jbc9fzl4dJJCL6oak4xC8Vz5ErYHcGE88bkWsC_GtG8_FO97v0RQ6ig5_CfdoV.MNmE6Fku8OE5xUdIc6._OwpPukM3QXMVwHgruR5xZt8ZtUkgdWyFZCwOeXEhKq_x_eQMuGAqUD9ihEfMit5ZrCHHnstiA8X1xgAeikqR0xX.Unf73rDYRYD1mcyCYU0ekTcFz6AMlYakzMl9DwCq6GtRm_coZuE.FMIGlQobuzfb.A6eMXevs_Yrk._eh4nr1jDmoZfh2im.YIDc Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65503.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:50:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:50:23 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: Chuck Swiger , David Allen In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0911131642p4d5935d1vff9cac77a43610ea@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: APM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:50:25 -0000 I was going to just respond to myself again, but I see I generated some dis= cussion :)=0A=0AAnyway, In the =0Ahttp://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?= t=3D1012=0A=0Apage at least two people mentioned the ATAidle utility. It is= not recommended for the same reason APM isn't: devices sleep without OS co= nsent.=0A=0AAnyway, I now know the drive saves 5W spun down because this co= mmand has immediate effect:=0A# ataidle -o /dev/ad4=0AFollowed shortly by:= =0ANov 13 16:51:11 dusty kernel: ad4: TIMEOUT-WRITE=3DDMA retrying (1 retry= left) LBA=3D23261855=0A=0AI settled on (But using the rc.conf format):=0Aa= taidle -I 6 -S 10 /dev/ad4=0Abecause I think the "Idle timer" (minutes) and= "Supsend timer" (minutes) stack to 16 minutes. Setting the suspend time ha= s an effect of immediately spinning down the disk though (mentioned in the = man page)=0A=0ANo logging means I have to figure out how often the drive sp= ins up/down using other means. (I don't think the wake from idle (disk seem= s to keep spinning) or suspend triggers a message.)=0A=0AChuck wrote:=0A":Y= ou might also want to note that 2.5" laptop drives are/should be explicitl= y designed to spin down and park themselves much more often than generic ID= E drives are; some generic desktop drives will fail quite rapidly (ie, in a= matter of months) if you attempt to spin them down many times a day.:"=0A= =0AI suspect they are rated for a set number of power-on cycles. If (say) 5= shutdowns/day kills the drive in months, it must be rated for something li= ke 1000. (hmm, I should look it up.)=0A=0AIdeally, I want 1-5 shutdowns a d= ay, depending on use. I know for a fact I want the drives shutdown when the= server is "idling" for hours at a time. When set for a 15 minute time out = (with atacontrol), the drive was not getting spurious shut-downs.=0A=0A--- = On Fri, 11/13/09, David Allen wrote:=0A=0A= > =0A> > % grep diskless /etc/rc=0A> > dlv=3D`/sbin/sysctl -n vfs.nfs.diskl= ess_valid 2>=0A> /dev/null`=0A> > if [ ${dlv:=3D0} -ne 0 -o -f /etc/diskles= s ]; then=0A> > =A0=A0=A0 sh /etc/rc.initdiskless=0A> > # Run these after d= etermining whether we are booting=0A> diskless in order=0A> > # to minimize= the number of files that are needed on a=0A> diskless system,=0A> =0A> The= answer finally appears!=0A> =0A> A note to the OP.=A0 The only way I've fo= und to keep a=0A> disk spun down=0A> under FreeBSD is using memory devices = for both /var and=0A> /tmp.=0A> Disabling syslogd isn't enough, nor is modi= fying=0A> /etc/crontab, root's=0A> crontab (or even disabling cron) to limi= t disk=0A> access.=A0 But to use=0A> memory devices and have a "normal" sys= tem, you'll need to=0A> re-populate=0A> both /var and /tmp at startup.=A0= =A0=A0Which, it=0A> turns out, means starting=0A> with /etc/diskless.=0A=0A= I think I thought of that (putting /var/log in RAM) on my own: it does not = really fit what my server does though: it is a file server.=0A=0AI have abo= ut 5-6GB set aside (big enough to hold a DVD image) for /var and /tmp, and = only 256MB of memory. Backing the ramdisk with swap defeats the purpose.=0A= =0AChuck wrote:=0A"rsync -a /var_template /var"=0AThat is only half the bat= tle: you need a way to flush it to disk when it actually spins up; else ris= k loosing log data (In the event of power/hardware failure).=0A=0AI suppose= a cron job backing up periodic filesytem snapshots is possible, but you wo= uld have to trigger on the number of interrupts seen by the disk or somethi= ng to avoid waking it. I was thinking /proc/interrupts , but that is a Linu= x feature :P=0A=0ADo the messages from spinning the disk back up (with atac= ontrol) have any hooks? I suppose if you are desperate, you can (tail+) gre= p /var/log/messages. =0A=0A> Someone should add a section named=A0 "Non-Dis= kless=0A> Diskless Operation"=0A> to the Handbook.=0A=0AI like to think wha= t I am doing (with 10 year old hardware) is "cutting edge research." That i= s to say, the normal mode of operation for servers is to hold your nose and= let them run 24/7. It is more reliable that way.=0A=0AThe current trend fo= r mitigating that waste of energy is consolidation. If you can put a dozen = servers in one box, hopefully only 1 or 2 will be active at once.=0A=0AHowe= ver, I think drivers and hardware (like NICs with WOL) may have matured to = the point that it is possible to run "non-critical" servers (and desktops) = in such a way that they only turn on when needed. Suspend mode for the newe= r desktops here draw only ~3watts: comparable to the power-off (soft-off) s= tate.=0A=0A=0A> Thanks again for all the help!=0A> =0A=0A=0A _________= _________________________________________________________=0AMake your brows= ing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer=AE 8. Optimize= d for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internet= explorer/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 07:40:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FED1065670 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E408FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-53-77.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.53.77]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358DB1E8A1; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:39:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAE7dwYR001777; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:39:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:39:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Roger Message-Id: <20091114083958.74482be3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:40:01 -0000 A little sidenote: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:04 -0500, Roger wrote: > The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big > slice that covers the > entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have > /usr/local > in a separate slice. In most cases, you set up one slice covering the whole disk, and then partition it, giving functional parts an own partition, such as /, /var, /tmp, /usr (including or intendedly excluding /usr/local) and /home. Those are partitions, not slices. As far as I know, there's no advantage in adding additional slices to that concept. A slice is a "DOS primary partition", while a partition is just a subdivision (i. e. an own file system) inside a slice. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 07:50:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF6F106566B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FF28FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pulstar.local (ppp-94-69-68-99.home.otenet.gr [94.69.68.99]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id nAE7o3GD022689; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:50:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4AFE612B.6060501@otenet.gr> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:50:03 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> <20091114083958.74482be3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20091114083958.74482be3.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:50:06 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > A little sidenote: > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:04 -0500, Roger wrote: > >> The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big >> slice that covers the >> entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have >> /usr/local >> in a separate slice. >> > > In most cases, you set up one slice covering the whole disk, > and then partition it, giving functional parts an own > partition, such as /, /var, /tmp, /usr (including or intendedly > excluding /usr/local) and /home. Those are partitions, not > slices. > > As far as I know, there's no advantage in adding additional slices > to that concept. > > A slice is a "DOS primary partition", while a partition is > just a subdivision (i. e. an own file system) inside a slice. > > > It seems however that some dedicated servers are setup using a single slice and a single partition, i.e. having /usr /var and /tmp as subdirectories in / instead of separate filesystems. I was once administering a server setup in this way - the hosting company would only perform this kind of install (they probably had a ready image or dump and would not change it). If the OP cares to share his /etc/fstab, it will become obvious if this is the case. If there are already separate partitions inside the slice, I'd agree there is no compelling reason to move to a multiple slice system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 08:06:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86AD1065670 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:06:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9860A8FC14 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-53-77.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.53.77]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C541E9A9; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:06:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAE867pS001935; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:06:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:06:07 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20091114090607.7188c8d2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4AFE612B.6060501@otenet.gr> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> <20091114083958.74482be3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AFE612B.6060501@otenet.gr> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:06:09 -0000 On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:50:03 +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > It seems however that some dedicated servers are setup using a single > slice and a single partition, i.e. having /usr /var and /tmp as > subdirectories in / instead of separate filesystems. Well, that's no problem per se, and it saves some "partition out of space" trouble when using UFS partitioning. You don't have this with ZFS. :-) Anyway, FreeBSD should keep all its partitions within one slice, or do I fail to see some hidden advantage of distributing the system into several slices? > If the OP cares to share his /etc/fstab, it will become obvious if this > is the case. That would answer this question. > If there are already separate partitions inside the slice, I'd agree > there is no compelling reason to move to a multiple slice system. An idea would be, for example, to remove the /usr partition and create two new partitions, one for /usr and one for /usr/local, which would move out /usr/local contents from the partition holding /usr - which I think is what the OP originally intended. This could be done relatively easily (in regards of SSH for the command connection). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 09:38:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D921065692 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdq@peterk.org) Received: from poshta.pknet.net (poshta.pknet.net [216.241.167.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAAF08FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82213 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 09:38:40 -0000 Received: from poshta.pknet.net (HELO pop.pknet.net) (216.241.167.213) by poshta.pknet.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2009 09:38:40 -0000 Received: from 216.241.167.212 (SquirrelMail authenticated user fbsdq@peterk.org) by webmail.pknet.net with HTTP; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:38:40 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <7193c41e41bf9cccaafca0d42672b2cb.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> In-Reply-To: <20091114090607.7188c8d2.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> <20091114083958.74482be3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AFE612B.6060501@otenet.gr> <20091114090607.7188c8d2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:38:40 -0700 (MST) From: "Peter" To: "Polytropon" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Roger Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:38:42 -0000 > On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:50:03 +0200, Manolis Kiagias > wrote: >> It seems however that some dedicated servers are setup using a single >> slice and a single partition, i.e. having /usr /var and /tmp as >> subdirectories in / instead of separate filesystems. > > Well, that's no problem per se, and it saves some "partition > out of space" trouble when using UFS partitioning. You don't > have this with ZFS. :-) > > Anyway, FreeBSD should keep all its partitions within one > slice, or do I fail to see some hidden advantage of distributing > the system into several slices? > > UFS: I usually setup a ~10G slice for the OS [ad0s1] and in that slice I have a /tmp /var /usr...and then use the rest of the disk for another slice containing all my data and home directories - This way if I ever need extra space for base, I can create symlinks, but makes reloading the base OS easier/being able to change partitions around without worrying about data [ad0s2]. If I plug this disk into another system, s1 can be repartitioned for whatever and s2 still has all my data instead of having to have the old partitions left [/var, /tmp, /usr] and can't combine them into one huge one because your /home is on the same slice. ]Peter[ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 10:33:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E307106566C for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFCE8FC13 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-53-77.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.53.77]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89593D558; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:33:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id nAEAXYZX001536; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:33:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:33:34 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Peter" Message-Id: <20091114113334.fb13c2a3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <7193c41e41bf9cccaafca0d42672b2cb.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> References: <9d972bed0911131228k36f9515ak361d82d766c24749@mail.gmail.com> <20091114083958.74482be3.freebsd@edvax.de> <4AFE612B.6060501@otenet.gr> <20091114090607.7188c8d2.freebsd@edvax.de> <7193c41e41bf9cccaafca0d42672b2cb.squirrel@webmail.pknet.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Roger Subject: Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:33:55 -0000 On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:38:40 -0700 (MST), "Peter" wrote: > UFS: > I usually setup a ~10G slice for the OS [ad0s1] and in that slice I have a > /tmp /var /usr...and then use the rest of the disk for another slice > containing all my data and home directories - This way if I ever need > extra space for base, I can create symlinks, but makes reloading the base > OS easier/being able to change partitions around without worrying about > data [ad0s2]. If I plug this disk into another system, s1 can be > repartitioned for whatever and s2 still has all my data instead of having > to have the old partitions left [/var, /tmp, /usr] and can't combine them > into one huge one because your /home is on the same slice. Hmmm... that's a valid point and a good idea in certain cases, such as you mentioned (having OS and applications completely separated from data - slice-wise). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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I don't blame ATI though. After all, they have to first appease their largest user base. Unfortunately, that means that Linux users are put on hold for an indefinite period of time. Once that project is consummated, the development or porting of drivers to other platforms commences. It would be nice if some patronage were shown to FreeBSD earlier in the cycle though. I cannot help but wonder if this will turn into a nVidia-64 debacle; i.e., waiting years for a serviceable solution. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | That money talks, I'll not deny, I heard it once, It said "Good-bye. Richard Armour From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 16:17:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECD5106566B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3B908FC08 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8399 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 15:51:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.169.198.42) by p3plsmtpa01-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.82) with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2009 15:51:17 -0000 Message-ID: <4AFED1F5.9040107@telting.org> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:51:17 -0800 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091108) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Produce identical packages for checksum comparison? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:17:57 -0000 I have a somewhat flaky system. I would like to compile ports to packages multiple times and do a file comparison. Since packages are tar files they wouldn't match for sure just because of the different time attributes. There may be other differences. Anyone know how to generate packages with consistent checksums? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 16:20:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60367106576B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 543F98FC19 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15027 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 15:53:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.169.198.42) by smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.183) with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2009 15:53:36 -0000 Message-ID: <4AFED27F.4020507@telting.org> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:53:35 -0800 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091108) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd.org slow? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:20:17 -0000 Anyone else notice how slow freebsd.org is? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 16:27:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB28E106566B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FCA8FC15 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from current.Sisis.de (ppp-93-104-101-168.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.101.168]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11C518358170; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:26:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAEGQw9C004537; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:26:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:26:58 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Chris Message-ID: <20091114162658.GA4511@current.Sisis.de> References: <4AFED1F5.9040107@telting.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4AFED1F5.9040107@telting.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Produce identical packages for checksum comparison? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:27:01 -0000 El día Saturday, November 14, 2009 a las 07:51:17AM -0800, Chris escribió: > I have a somewhat flaky system. I would like to compile ports to > packages multiple times and do a file comparison. ... Hi Chris, What is behind the idea to compile and pack a given port twice if there are no errors during the build? matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 17:47:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5344E1065672 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0168FC1A for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj15 with SMTP id 15so2819874pwj.3 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:47:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RS50WNBGhJmGTNf1YiNlU2LewuzYcTW3CQKJlKSM4JQ=; b=tKYuRBXIuA5AqP9pfqa/K05I8ldlD/DPcMf4G1sig3MFtxQuD8lvU3/qIfFs92qrrS 4rMWaqK462dp9v830D/3aqxGhwTQur0N0QMwWiOJztga/ygSQuF5t74Rg7DgfAg/nWf+ r1n8VCjq8SVL7FsJYTiHrbpq0V+50+C/g4zn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Gdz8xjPJ3UUTGDT0oHTfiOw0DzQlKFVVU3C6eshgOj978Rv9KUnCNUpYf7Htm3ZCEW r+303EUa/y63CpZqCa4YcejVlQl5UxHw/kh2gUTuH8Gcos7V5EOmhVdcpSfoOl50cvo8 e0XXjxtsmYL50wMfr7N0xtCHA/LwvHYb063P4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.60.11 with SMTP id i11mr640050wfa.270.1258220829844; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:47:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4AFED27F.4020507@telting.org> References: <4AFED27F.4020507@telting.org> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:47:09 -0700 Message-ID: <64c038660911140947y61a6279bs9c5e947634693cf7@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: Chris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd.org slow? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:47:10 -0000 Chris, Seems alright now, for me anyway. (Indeed, the ever-irritating "works for me" response. Though it seemed the only thing appropriate here. Sorry. :)~ -Modulok- On 11/14/09, Chris wrote: > Anyone else notice how slow freebsd.org is? > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 20:18:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC1F1065698 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christopher-ml@telting.org) Received: from smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BE9F8FC15 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14231 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 20:18:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.169.198.42) by smtpauth16.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.22) with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2009 20:18:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4AFF109C.3000505@telting.org> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:18:36 -0800 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091108) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <4AFED1F5.9040107@telting.org> <20091114162658.GA4511@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20091114162658.GA4511@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Produce identical packages for checksum comparison? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:18:38 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Saturday, November 14, 2009 a las 07:51:17AM -0800, Chris escribió: > > >> I have a somewhat flaky system. I would like to compile ports to >> packages multiple times and do a file comparison. ... >> > > Hi Chris, > > What is behind the idea to compile and pack a given port twice if there > are no errors during the build? > > matthias > > While I don't think there will be differences I won't know until I do it. Call it reassurance. To me it seems like a good stress test. Also every time I update my ports tree I don't know what is going to break. I have a jail running all the time to recompile my ports as they are updated. I maintain between three to five different different ports/packages branches of different checkout dates. The system is somewhat flaky and crashes sometimes. I play with a lot of stuff and am actually using Freebsd as my desktop. I am sure that most of my crashing is due to multiple jails and using nullfs and unionfs but that isn't relevent to my current post. I'm also thinking of building a simple checksum database to track what actually changes and what my options were when I compiled it. It would allow me to better make regression decisions. I could also be free to delete packages and know if I recompile it later that it was the exact same package with the exact same options. Very simple script to do that. Also if say there was an option when compiling ports to produce files with specific time/dates it would be helpful in pinpointing which of my port branches a specific file came from. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 21:48:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F358106566C for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.mail.yandex.net (forward4.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C888FC1E for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp4.mail.yandex.net (smtp4.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.104]) by forward4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 236772680AD for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:34:52 +0300 (MSK) Received: from HOMEUSER (245-67-178-94.pool.ukrtel.net [94.178.67.245]) by smtp4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 67C11D300BD for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:34:49 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:34:49 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1755834289.20091114233449@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1258234492 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp4.mail.yandex.net Subject: rc.subr patch to set FIB to demon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:48:49 -0000 Hello, . Link to news: http://www.kes.net.ua/softdev/fib_patch.html rc.subr.patch ------------- 2c2 < # $FreeBSD: src/etc/rc.subr,v 1.77.2.1.2.1 2008/11/25 02:59:29 kensmith Exp $ --- > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/rc.subr,v 1.77.2.1 2008/05/12 07:29:03 mtm Exp $ 605d604 < 664a664,669 > _fib= > if [ "${name}_fib" ]; then > eval _fib=\$${name}_fib > _fib="/usr/sbin/setfib $_fib" > fi > 670c675 < $_chroot $command $rc_flags $command_args" --- > $_chroot $_fib $command $rc_flags $command_args" 674c679 < $command $rc_flags $command_args" --- > $_fib $command $rc_flags $command_args" -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 14 22:27:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3535106566B for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [213.192.2.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9533F8FC15 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BC30C147DDF; Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:39:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:39:34 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20091114223934.GJ54137@isis.sigpipe.cz> References: <4AF90A6E.3040907@wup-katowice.pl> <4AF90F44.1070509@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AF90F44.1070509@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: arek@wup-katowice.pl, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php4-gd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:27:47 -0000 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 06:59:16AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Arek Czereszewski wrote: > > I have on some web servers php4-gd port installed > > and I am totally confused. > > Portaudit says > > > > Affected package: php4-gd-4.4.9 > Basically, if you're running PHP4 on a public site then you should be making > plans to upgrade to PHP5 ASAP. more like: you should have upgraded to PHP5 two years ago. 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