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Date:      Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:33:03 -0400
From:      Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com>
To:        Newton <nlunkel@ig.com.br>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Installer
Message-ID:  <416C3F7F.5000100@vonostingroup.com>
In-Reply-To: <416C3B42.9040501@ig.com.br>
References:  <416C3B42.9040501@ig.com.br>

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Newton wrote:

> Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested 
> in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. 
> My experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows 
> and Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window 
> maker  and many of them, were only words. My first fear, was erase my 
> HD. I did it many times, but I knew how to start again or recover. I'm 
> writing these things, cause in these years using Linux, I saw a big 
> evolution , specially the installer. Mandrake, Red Hat, Fedora, 
> Slackware and another, made a goob job and you can do it , almost 
> without problems. But, when I tried FreeBSD installer, I remembered 
> Debian, the worst installer ! Probably another distributions, like 
> Knoppix, Kurumin , Gnoppix to name a few, trying to make the life user 
> easiest ! My first experience with FreeBSD, was 5.0, with a PC Master, 
> brazilian magazine. After many tries, a XFree86 error, when I typed 
> startx, disappointed me again and, I forgot it... On the last month, I 
> downloaded the 2 CDs, 5.2.1, and, the same installer, errors, infinite 
> loops... very disappointing ! I tried many lists, and with some 
> support,to resolve or not, the problems. Again, I format my system 
> and, here I am, with Windows (mainly for games and a problematic usb 
> scanner) and Linux. I need a more stable system. Many people talked me 
> very good about FreeBSD. For me, until now , the biggest deception ! 
> Please, I don't know the FreeBSD objectives, but if you would like 
> that more and more people can use it, CHANGE this installer. Confuse , 
> in one word ! Disappointing ! I tried standard, express, custom , all 
> packages, minimum, all kind of ways... I can't understand a looped 
> install. Almost 2 hours after, an error... My video card is recognized 
> , but when you did post-install, not ! You tried many XFrre86 configs 
> and not.... When something happens and finally you can start KDE or 
> GNOME or another, DHCP don't run and so on. Please change this 
> installer and trying to better hardware and network configuration ! 
> Until this, I'll never tried FreeBSD again ! Sincerely, Newton - 
> Curitiba - Brazil

I'm sure its just the language barrier, but try to use your return key 
sometime :)
and yes, sysinstall isnt very good, it could be vast improved upon. Not 
that freebsd should have an installer like Fedora, SuSE, etc.., but 
theres definately room for improvement.

-Frank Laszlo



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