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Date:      Sat, 9 Dec 2017 19:36:59 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r326731 - head/sys/ufs/ffs
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfoM0xhtFsajOQA2RB1FkX0y83z=vUUk72jcQNKqrdGkYQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <a1d303b4-14b8-6a3d-3648-96a69bed7144@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201712091544.vB9FiVUI096790@repo.freebsd.org> <a1d303b4-14b8-6a3d-3648-96a69bed7144@FreeBSD.org>

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On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 09/12/2017 17:44, Mark Johnston wrote:
> > Some GEOMs do not appear to handle BIO_ORDERED correctly, meaning that
> the
> > barrier write may not work as intended.


There's a few places we send down a BIO_ORDERED BIO_FLUSH command
(see softdep_synchronize for one). Will those matter?

As I've noted elsewhere: I'd really like to kill BIO_ORDERED since it has
too many icky effects (and BIO_FLUSH + BIO_ORDERED isn't guaranteed to do,
well, anything since it can turn into a NOP in a number of places. Plus
many of the implementations of BIO_ORDERED assume the drive is like SCSI
and you just set the right tag to make it 'ordered'. For ATA we issue a non
NCQ command, which is a full drain of outstanding commands, send this
command, then start them again which really shuts down the parallelism we
implemented NCQ for :(. We do similar for NVME which is even worse. There
we have multiple submission queues in the hardware. To simulated it, we do
a similar drain, but that's going to get in the way as we move to NUMA and
systems where we try to do the I/O entirely on one CPU (both submission and
completion) and ordered I/O is guaranteed lock contention.

Warner



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