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Date:      Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:33:10 -0600 (CST)
From:      Brian Woodruff <wood@eris.quintessential.com>
To:        jef53313@bayou.uh.edu
Cc:        flygt@sr.se, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: 3.1 UNstable
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96.990331093032.12748A-100000@eris.quintessential.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903310910540.4845-100000@fosburgh.dyndns.org>

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On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Jonathan Fosburgh wrote:

> [snip]
> > 
> > maybe installing from floppies is different from installing off the net?
> > comments?
> > 
> No he is referring to the install floppies.  

so I read.

> What he was attempting to do
> was use the 3.0-RELEASE sysinstall and install floppies to perform a
> binary upgrade to 3.1-RELEASE.  Normally this would work (I used to use
> old sysinstall to do upgrades along the 2.2 tree before getting a second
> disk and having room to CVSup) but it does not work when using a
> sysinstall or floppies from before the ELF kernels.  

If I'm not mistaken, he said this *DID* work, and I'm wondering why. I
already know why it should have failed. 

BDW

> The sysinstall
> program in /stand does not update the boot blocks and the floppies
> install whatever version is on them, not what is needed by the release.
> In other words, if using a 3.0-RELEASE install floppy but set the dist to
> 3.1-RELEASE< you'll get the 3.1 binaries but the boot code will come from
> the floppy.  
> 
> If the documentation is not already there, then somewhere it should be
> very loudly stated that a binary upgrade from pre-ELF kernel systems to
> ELF-kernel systems won't work with anything BUT the proper boot floppies,
> 3.1-RELEASE, 3.1-SNAP, whatever.  Surely there are still a number of
> people on 2.2 (or even 3.0) that can't do a source upgrade and aren't
> aware that they could break their ability to boot by not using the 3.1
> floppies.  IIRC there is a way to install the correct loader from a
> running system, so perhaps one could boot kernel.prev and install the new
> loader that way, but of course, one has to know to do it.
> 
> 
> Jonathan Fosburgh
> Geotechnician
> Snyder Oil Corporation
> Houston, TX
> 
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