From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 13:12:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB06106568C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from f.mail.ru.ac.za (f.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B594C8FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=pfxNLeexdJK84lhXl0muMYnK6aW068wj0i9UZbGfWkTMwnmT2p5+lLl+vzUKGFS4yum1bRre2rbgwrGa/afbICY/rRk80VGxRC1rMFr/S35edJAsBPe906HH5VvwV7Tl; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:55075) by f.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1OMhYu-000Kks-DW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:12:48 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <201006101147.40385.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <201006101432.23605.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C10E2F5.70806@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: f.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:6) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Midphase Hosting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:12:52 -0000 On Thursday 10 June 2010 15:04:53 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > The only other mechanism might be to tag each list e-mail with a unique > value for each recipient in such a way that it is preserved in the > message that mpcustomer.com's help system sends out. That has severe > problems of scale and load on the FreeBSD mail servers, but it might be > possible. There is a similar technique (whose name I have temporarily > forgotten) that some mailing lists use where they tag the envelope > sender address with the recipient name in order to identify addresses > that are bouncing back the list e-mail. Isn't that called VERP (variable envelope return path)? I agree - the load it would impose isn't worth it. I'm just shocked that midphase care so little about their reputation or the impression this is giving, on one of the more widely-archived mailing lists, of their competence and diligence. I'll shut up now. Jonathan