From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 13:56:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F3A16A409 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from ecluster6.tls.net (ecluster6.tls.net [65.196.224.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3241F13C4BB for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 2562 invoked by uid 89); 27 Feb 2007 13:55:19 -0000 Received: from 64-184-10-26.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (ldg%tls.net@64.184.10.26) by auth-ecluster6.tls.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2007 13:55:19 -0000 Message-ID: <45E43891.3020709@pixelhammer.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:56:33 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0AFEEDC5-5838-4721-9309-E743EFF5C0B0@techally.com> <45DC9589.6030606@pixelhammer.com> <45DDC8D0.1090705@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Day Light Savings time changes on March 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:56:46 -0000 Christian Baer wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:46:08 -0500 DAve wrote: > >>> Or am I missing the issue here? >> Not at all, I am thinking my next staff meeting I am going to propose >> just that solution. > > Now it might be that I think about a few things a little 'differently' > but as far as I can remember running a Unix box (which one that *only* > runs a Unix-like OS) on UTC is the usual default and i also recomended > as such. > > I am actually a little surprised that there are whole server-farms out > there (stimm) running on local time. > An ISP starts out with one mail server and a management server, they create tools that automate and report on the system. It is all in local time. Go forward ten years and now we have 15+ servers, all still using the same admin framework. When I came on board they did not have the time or resources to rewrite or change the management system. We still don't, but we are building out a new one under the radar, 30 minutes here, two hours there, etc. Meanwhile we have an old system which relies on local time. We have local users who do not require a "world view" in their use of the internet (local office to local office connections, local client base, local local local) and they want their mail headers and web reports in local time. So the servers run local time. No more reason than that. We will convert them, but it takes and plan, and a reason. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible.