From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 20 20:04:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1468106564A for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884398FC14 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E96CDCC for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:04:42 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <11DEFD288187C288C87EE90F@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: A quality operating system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:04:44 -0000 --As of August 20, 2011 12:12:00 PM -0500, Dave Pooser is alleged to have said: > 3) Updates are a mess. It's cool that I *can* compile a new kernel, but > that I *have* to is ridiculous. Updating a server should not be more > difficult than "yum update" -- full stop. --As for the rest, it is mine. Oh, how I *wish* it was that easy on a Linux box... Have you ever actually tried to update RedHat from one version to another? It can't be done. No support. Oh, I suppose you could install everything manually, but if you miss something and break it, that's your problem. The only recommended way is 'wipe, reinstall, copy everything in from backup.' Having to do that at work made me miss freebsd-update... (And if you are complaining about user-land programs: Try portmanager. Or one of the other fine tools in the ports system.) (Oh, and as for comparing the Handbook with RedHat's knowledge base... I'll admit there are flaws in the Handbook. But the knowledge base shows the distinct impressions of being run through marketing. There's quite a lot of 'And then you can use this shiny feature!' without any 'To configure, read the following:'.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. ---------------------------------------------------------------