From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 21 21:52:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B927103798D for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gyliamos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x833.google.com (mail-qt1-x833.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::833]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE9D47A51E for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gyliamos@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x833.google.com with SMTP id j46-v6so44178317qtc.9 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:52:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=EJKxx+bfgYXULrJtcPKmqeMj4qHySuOrks1AjDHM0v0=; b=u3IkxHMui1IK0hUwRVg+M+ZnjdI53pCHTM10gR5OKNe/pK+xCICtMZSVFSFif0Dcua 5nkua8Ys3jX45KzyBRtCKYU6A9QtOp9vAiJCbrk9d9N3nvYTLkUNaJO1gvPVlbuKFm6a 8AyOvL//t9sCjRnFfrBi8++49ciAuxxHW84a2pOdDOlIRc2VsNImtwBSCIM/Buv1/I26 BWVhjrxBjpZ0m+PlBtVsrvPDb/xdldh5XpV/mF464KIX/FQEs/AqYxh8YajCMxoW+8fj kHoM8496BLry3ADcDzsXchKpoqX4BJxpS0nB/CdomNquznqIwD5e9G3QIyrkzL0UYuwm j3fQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=EJKxx+bfgYXULrJtcPKmqeMj4qHySuOrks1AjDHM0v0=; b=GVcF1R7I0ia9ZcqtJ0BDtEpyeeHpDIw6+9Ta9ug7WHE5+1T1ZJL8KU9bvOQpbaeHxA 6ZoImr85cXKmKsWm2k/wzQ9SkOSJghkO1vBb+I0Qo3l1H5u8IRqiSf63Vc8ZEpAMwT1g f1bVsOTDiRc8CkoWJNMwtEinXAXk9SjqQn47HfjARBAOp7hQBMxJD4/ynrilN3pd2wxe 6AHNt1LDw3Kd605KGu2tH+566OrEfPBuCVlAXiAf5pTYWtnmKUYOFP4J1eENDAZKu2Z9 biTfpT63ABvAbKASGCbGGyy2VTI0EknvZr4LaKe6x7lgsc+/+NspFYDAVWU7Rw6PgdLa V6cw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogvKsVNYW5Jv5EQzWOFPHb9VQU5k+LZ7ojNO58QKnlYQxpHkXFa iB6+b+W7T+nn5ig5L0ofMmk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV632oMcac2FQ4SO9gicsdsC63LF+uzj+Ejz37ftzXr7egqkV/zceJWALDbMpdPAgYuYxOAsGYw== X-Received: by 2002:a0c:f90a:: with SMTP id v10mr43652649qvn.24.1540158756376; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anukis.local ([2601:182:380:26f0:1dd5:c7d4:71f1:5e84]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f38-v6sm8677103qtf.63.2018.10.21.14.52.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:52:35 -0700 (PDT) From: William Parsons X-Google-Original-From: William Parsons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: old Makefile for building library no longer works Reply-to: "William Parsons" Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 17:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: <86bm7n9dcu.fsf@anukis.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:52:37 -0000 I haven't been doing a lot of C programming lately, but recently I revisited an old project and found the old Makefile to build a library under FreeBSD no longer works. (I've verified that this still worked as of FreeBSD 9.3 and will still work if gmake is used.) Here's a much simplified version of the Makefile that used to work: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- LIBTEST = libTest.a .PRECIOUS: $(LIBTEST) all: $(LIBTEST) LIBSRC = test.c # Do not automatically delete library source files .SECONDARY: $(LIBSRC) LIBOBJ = $(LIBSRC:%.c=%.o) $(LIBTEST): $(LIBTEST)($(LIBOBJ)) $(AR) $(ARFLAGS) $@ $? rm -f $? clean: @rm -f *.o $(LIBTEST) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- And here's a trivial C source file to go with it: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- /* test.c */ #include int test(char const *text) { printf("%s\n", text); return 1; } --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It looks like the Makefile directive dependency: $(LIBTEST): $(LIBTEST)($(LIBOBJ)) no longer works and claims the target is up to date when it doesn't even exist. I've been perusing 'man make' without success. One thing that puzzles me is that 'man make' says "For a more thorough description of make and makefiles, please refer to PMake - A Tutorial." Is this accurate? I was under the impression that pmake was replaced by bsdmake in recent versions of FreeBSD - is this the source of my problems? -- Will From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 01:37:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DE5FD79EF for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (doctor.nl2k.ab.ca [204.209.81.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04CDE80814 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca) Received: from doctor by doctor.nl2k.ab.ca with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gEP9M-0005P8-VY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:36:56 -0600 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:36:56 -0600 From: The Doctor To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone seen a cron bomb before? Message-ID: <20181022013656.GA20110@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 01:37:07 -0000 This is so much o a cron bomb that the swap run out. Very annoying!! MY Crontab is # /etc/crontab - root's crontab for FreeBSD # # $FreeBSD: releng/11.2/etc/crontab 194170 2009-06-14 06:37:19Z brian $ # SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin # #minute hour mday month wday who command # #*/5 * * * * root /usr/libexec/atrun # # Save some entropy so that /dev/random can re-seed on boot. * 23 * * * operator /usr/libexec/save-entropy # # Rotate log files every hour, if necessary. 0 * * * * root newsyslog # # Perform daily/weekly/monthly maintenance. 1 3 * * * root periodic daily 15 4 * * 6 root periodic weekly 30 5 1 * * root periodic monthly # # Adjust the time zone if the CMOS clock keeps local time, as opposed to # UTC time. See adjkerntz(8) for details. 1,31 0-5 * * * root adjkerntz -a #other stuff #*/5 * * * * root cd /var/spool/exim/msglog/;/usr/local/sbin/exim -M 1e*;/usr/local/sbin/exim -v -q 15 * * * * root /usr/local/sbin/eximstats -html=/usr/local/www/apache24/data/eximstats.html /var/log/exim/mainlog 0 3 * * * root /bin/sh /etc/google 48 * * * * root /usr/local/bin/freshclam #15 * * * * root /usr/sbin/service mysql-server restart;/usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart > /dev/null 2>&1 #*/5 * * * * root /usr/local/bin/mysql --one-database mysql --user=root --password=LyndaX69!! < /usr/home/doctor/mysqldump20181011 > /dev/null 2>&1 0,45,59 4 * * * root /usr/sbin/service exim restart;/usr/sbin/service dovecot restart; /usr/local/sbin/rotate -b -r 3 /var/log/httpd/error_log;/usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart 3 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "ftp.nk.ca" -o /usr/local/www/apache24/data/ftp_stats/usage -t CurrentFTPstats /var/log/pureftpd.log > /dev/null 2>&1 3 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.nk.ca" -o /usr/local/www/apache24/data/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 4 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME NetKnow" +O/usr/local/www/apache24/data/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 4 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "secure.nl2k.ab.ca" -o /usr/local/www/apache24/SSLconf/docs/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/secure_Access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 4 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.mmwglobal.com" -o /usr/home/kellyb/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/mmwglobal-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 5 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "secure.nl2k.ab.ca" -o /usr/local/www/apache24/SSLconf/docs/usage/transfer -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/transfer_log > /dev/null 2>&1 6 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.buffetroyale.com" -o /usr/home/mbarnes/html/buffetroyale/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/buffetroyal-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 6 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.mblightning.com" -o /usr/home/mblight/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/mblightning-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 9 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.massageresultscourses.com" -o /usr/home/free/html/massage/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/massageresultscourses-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 10 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME MAssage Results Courses" +O/usr/home/free/html/massage/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/massageresultscourses-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 9 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.virtualtruckroute.com" -o /usr/home/summit/html/virtualtruckroute/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/virtualtruckroute-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 9 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.northernoutdoorsman.com" -o /usr/home/summit/html/northernoutdoorsman/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/northernoutdoorsman-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 9 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.acachockey.info" -o /usr/home/summit/html/acachockey/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/acachockey-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 10 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.zippclamp.com" -o /var/www/SSLconf/docs/davidb/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/zippclamp-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 11 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.eagle-insurance.com" -o /usr/home/eagleins/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/eagle-ins-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 13 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.proflamefireplaces.ca" -o /usr/home/aboo/html/proflame/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/proflamefireplace-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 14 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME ProFlame" +O/usr/home/aboo/html/proflame/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/proflamefireplace-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 14 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.sdf.ca" -o /usr/home/andkon/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/sdf-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 14 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.seedcentre.com" -o /usr/home/knattrass/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/seedcentre-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 14 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.amhfinancial.ca" -o /usr/home/amh/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/amhfinancial-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 14 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.brinkmann.ca" -o /usr/home/bhbrinkmann/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/brinkmann-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 15 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME AMHFinancial" +O/usr/home/amh/html/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/amhfinancial-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 15 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.precisionceramics.com" -o /usr/home/precision/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/precision-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 19 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.albertadogs.com" -o /usr/home/mparish/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/albertadogs-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 22 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.leungsauto.ca" -o /usr/home/aboo/html/leungs/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/leungsauto-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 22 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.afragranceforall.com" -o /usr/home/debster/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/afragranceforall-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 23 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME LeungsAuto" +O/usr/home/aboo/html/leungs/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/leungsauto-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 23 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.bodysoothe.com" -o /usr/home/bodysoothe/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/bodysoothe-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 25 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.beaverlodgemotorinn.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/BeaverlodgeInn/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/beaverlodgemotorinn-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 26 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.rusticboergoats.com" -o /usr/home/rusticwood/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/rusticboergoats-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 26 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.mysteries4you.com" -o /usr/home/mysteries/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/mysteries4you-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 #27 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.stalbertinn.com" -o /usr/home/michaele/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/stalbertinn-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 27 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.bestwesternwaysideinn.com" -o /usr/home/netlawr/html/wayside/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/bestwesternwaysideinn-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 27 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.ukrainian-philately.info" -o /usr/home/vesna/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/ukrainian-philately-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 30 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.coveredshelters.com" -o /usr/home/netlawr/html/aurora/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/coveredshelters-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 31 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.snorefree2.com" -o /usr/home/aboo/html/snorefree2/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/snorefree2-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 31 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.nbsapparel.com" -o /usr/home/nbs/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/nbsapparel-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 31 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.linkedproductions.com" -o /usr/home/production/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/linkedproductions-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 31 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.regisplazahotel.com" -o /usr/home/regis/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/regisplazahotel-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 32 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.429sqn.ca" -o /usr/home/kopper/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/429sqn-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 33 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.robertsonsplumbing.com" -o /usr/home/robertsons/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/reobertsonplubming-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 33 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.fdlauto.com" -o /usr/home/fdl/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/dbrenovations-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 34 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME Robersont's Plumbing" +O/usr/home/robertsons/html/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/reobertsonplubming-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 34 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.mmrl.ca" -o /usr/home/mmrladm/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/mmrl-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 36 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.healthcareandrehab.com" -o /usr/home/hcars/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/healthcareandrehab-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 36 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.ammundsenhomecare.com" -o /usr/home/hcars/html/ammundsen/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/d99kickoff-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 37 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME HealthCareAndRehab" +O/usr/home/hcars/html/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/healthcareandrehab-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 37 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.aimsfc.com" -o /usr/home/ips/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/aimsfc-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 38 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME AmmundsenHomeCare" +O/usr/home/hcars/html/ammundsen/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/d99kickoff-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 38 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.californiawallbeds.com" -o /usr/home/california/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/californiawallbeds-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 39 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.recycleresources.com" -o /usr/home/blayton/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/recycleresources-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 41 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.eliteclans.com" -o /usr/home/eliteclans/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/eliteclans-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 41 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.groupbdi.com" -o /usr/home/bdigroup/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/groupbdi-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 41 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.albertareservations.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/ABReservations/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/albertareservations-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 42 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.explorebanff.info" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_Bffif/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/explorebanff-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 43 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.vancouverbreastcentre.com" -o /usr/home/vbc/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/vancouverbreastcentre-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 43 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.atalocal43.ab.ca" -o /usr/home/wwoytkiw/html/atalocal43/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/atalocal43-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 43 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.explorejasper.info" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_Jasif/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/explorejasper-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 43 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.exploreedmonton.info" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_Edmif/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/exploreedmonton-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 44 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.explorecalgary.info" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_Calif/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/explorecalgary-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.cardiovascular.ca" -o /usr/home/ricky/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/cardiovascular-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.discountdining.ca" -o /usr/home/mbarnes/html/discountdining/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/discountdining-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.kachkargroup.com" -o /usr/home/kachkar/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/kachkargroup-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.exoticscanada.ca" -o /usr/home/shannongrange/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/exoticscanada-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.e-z.ca" -o /usr/home/ez/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/edzabinski-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 #45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.agriculturecanada.ca" -o /usr/home/misc/html/agriculturecanada.ca/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/agriculture-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.iuoe955union.com" -o /usr/home/iuoe955union/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/iuoe955union-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.iuoe955trust.com" -o /usr/home/iuoe955trust/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/iuoe955trust-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 45 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.explorealberta.info" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_ABif/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/explorealberta-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 46 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.exoticscanada.ca" -o /usr/home/shannongrange/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/exoticscanada-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 46 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.edmontonlasercentre.com" -o /usr/home/netlawr/html/laser/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/edmontonlasercentre-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 46 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.bonesnet.ws" -o /usr/home/bones/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/lrmail-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 46 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.campgroundsalberta.info" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_cgAB/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/campgroundsalberta-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 47 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.firstclasspainting.com" -o /usr/home/mariodiana/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/firstclasspainting-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 47 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.alberta-hotelmotels.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_AB_hm/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/alberta-hotelmotels-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 47 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.albertatravelguide.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_ABtg/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/albertatravelguide-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 47 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.recycleresources.com" -o /usr/home/blayton/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/recycleresources-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 47 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.biopolos.ca" -o /usr/home/radcock/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/biopolis-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 47 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.alberta-travelguide.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_AB_tg/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/alberta-travelguide-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 #48 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.heritagefestivals.ca" -o /usr/home/festivals/html/heritagefestivals.ca/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/heritagefestivals-ca-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 48 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.alberta-hotels.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_AB_ht/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/alberta-hotels-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 49 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.alberta-campgrounds.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_AB_cg/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/alberta-campgrounds-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 49 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.safetyresults.ca" -o /var/www/SSLconf/docs/safety/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/safetyresults-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 49 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.integrationpilates.com" -o /usr/home/integration/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/integrationpilates-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 50 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.historyrecord.ca" -o /usr/home/bgcampbell/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/historyrecord-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 50 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.reflectix.net" -o /usr/home/reflectix/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/reflectix-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 50 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.perfectfuturesales.com" -o /usr/home/slaporte/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/perfectfuturesales-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 50 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.comfortplusmats.com" -o /usr/home/pvcomfortplus/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/pvcp-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 51 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.alberta-accommodations.com" -o /usr/home/aha/html/EA_AB_ac/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/alberta-accommodations-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 52 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.gamershaven.ca" -o /usr/home/myopea/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/gamershaven-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 55 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.coventryrealty.ca" -o /usr/home/coventry/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/coventryrealty-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 56 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.orilliahomesforsale.com" -o /usr/home/joanwhibley/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/orilliahomesforsale-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 56 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.scrubcityuniforms.ca" -o /usr/home/aboo/html/scrubca/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/scrubcityuniformsca-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 56 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.scrubcityuniforms.com" -o /usr/home/aboo/html/scrubusa/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/scrubcityuniformscom-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 #56 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.aerosmith.ca" -o /usr/home/misc/html/aerosmith.ca/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/aerosmith-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 57 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME Scrubcityuniforms.ca" +O/usr/home/aboo/html/scrubca/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/scrubcityuniformsca-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 57 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/analog +A +C"HOSTNAME Scrubcityuniforms.ca" +O/usr/home/aboo/html/scrubusa/analog/index.html /var/log/httpd/scrubcityuniformscom-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 58 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.rodmanchester.com" -o /usr/home/rodman/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/rodmanchester-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 58 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.dalori.ca" -o /usr/home/dalori/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/dalori-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 58 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.guestmemories.com" -o /usr/home/jackiedejong/html/usage -t Currentstats /var/log/httpd/guestmemories-access_log > /dev/null 2>&1 58 * * * * root /usr/bin/nice -20 /usr/local/bin/webalizer -Q -c /usr/local/etc/webalizer.conf -n "www.andresdirectmarketing.com" -o 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[79.66.139.63]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b5-v6sm6964757wrs.34.2018.10.21.21.26.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:26:19 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Perrin Subject: rc.conf(5): comparing kld_list and kldload Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:26:18 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 04:26:23 -0000 >From : > … > > kld_list (str) A list of kernel modules to load right after > the local disks are mounted. Loading modules at > this point in the boot process is much faster than > doing it via /boot/loader.conf for those modules > not necessary for mounting local disk. > … Is there ever any benefit to using kldload instead of kld_list? ---- Background: difficulty with radeonkms and sddm following a switch of -CURRENT to stable/12 I'm toying with the possibility that faster is not always best; that a specific load/start order might help. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 14:05:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B74FFD2C6 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7817D7B80C for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLhwM-1fwvRx2eNU-00HeUj; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:04:57 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLhwM-1fwvRx2eNU-00HeUj; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:04:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:04:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf(5): comparing kld_list and kldload Message-Id: <20181022160457.6f44d232.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:opjAI3ORiCePmrOpwnUFNO641xUYdSnITSrs1rQwXvGAOzbLUN+ yfSoQ6JNcYvrcK6DO8KZRP1jHyPTAC9etnmNrBThwM/5DUWm4lWNc6ey23psX63u1Gr71Hr oZiCRy09L5UN93R7J3m6Pyfsy8q1UMWFrXsrdVgnxQspYOeaX1BR1VwhGB4CvkeulC/KHun +4bIndCpetiGvEgLCvX3A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KkD0dGqf19A=:/lgJzA4lrDQJR5BqENXrJI nFA0WIDFCoEc/W9dI8AyY7sigbWvuepmxsuViBMlm6YT4kIZLjdgPQRtFSnMRJNm3V7VOSJEo x+my9eBBZ0fdohdG43rzSQcr5BM6QTwQGosW3o2tmMysnwmHa1GaUmiehxhQKj8KWCphwGRLO U6DJdnM0TrqaKc3e0NdsbPUiSAPrhROFnx8XgZTXraAWoEoo1I1tDr4SJrTM5+84JC9ZBK6mY aj47w0M4g6sMjdEN4xdOqnBvkbxGqPF4GzV5GlxyFdJ7jazFo4LQr3/5ehIklOpj32RNYdF8W DOitVYbI437JS9ZQIs97VBKedGqQSo50I40+7Ey+fIKuclpy5ieRSFx3r52B1lmCFSA7tOacQ nK2c1S+vZ2FyDS0eDCzOeuDGjv5EYzEZ/RDJB/t+eGwL92EFTPDpjOJA+uHmXcfmP2ocPX0aH Iu5SKQHYquuDlohlm/BTmkJzkJPsYRXHfiq+RGnd2lXW1DaZr1b1CJC3LtcFDtGMdYBtM1bun UnhyDpvcMOILuLIcnr68ID4cYoijU7OBG0Dq4FNV6eFlFyN0YY3IXlWq80p8pFhNqCoIjXjZd l7s2JwPn5xWW4xN11EXaDlRBLTb1dQ5Pkcs03zA2qaWc7HuQeHJMXI9Reaz4SZEFCgQWx9TaT x5Sl6SKqKVD/eLPOTHLgEG2L+2BrG4v1o+Gi3/8TBYRwsb4SDD0E8DZbVMHlDeDSz/HX9DXBA tGgIr7bvmGlWV7yg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:05:06 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:26:18 +0100, Graham Perrin wrote: > From : > > > … > > > > kld_list (str) A list of kernel modules to load right after > > the local disks are mounted. Loading modules at > > this point in the boot process is much faster than > > doing it via /boot/loader.conf for those modules > > not necessary for mounting local disk. > > … > > Is there ever any benefit to using kldload instead of kld_list? It is important when you consider the _time_ during system startup. Sometimes modules require to be loaded at a certain time, that's when you can (or cannot) use kld_list, which is the _default_ method of loading kernel modules. early: via /boot/loader.conf intermediate: via kld_list in /etc/rc.conf almost final: via kldload calls in /etc/rc.local It's also possible for scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ to load kernel modules, and you could even add something to /etc/rc itself to achieve "really final" loading (even though manual additions to /etc/rc are discouraged for good reasons). > Background: difficulty with radeonkms and sddm following a switch > of -CURRENT to stable/12 > > > > I'm toying with the possibility that faster is not always best; > that a specific load/start order might help. Yes, this is such a case. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 14:07:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE3DFFD4E5 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF7E07B9FA for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-lj1-f169.google.com (mail-lj1-f169.google.com [209.85.208.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: kevans) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7959E194A7 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevans@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id j17-v6so37147727lja.1 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogLjkDlEFWJZ8VXFhaubLtbsq9HNFE78J6ehvcoJgiWVe1vZvr2 epZVlVo20vFvQKFNUv6ebrvx7dIBMGrnfYQalcw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61WwrWpNAoqJH51wFm4o+ZvPsg82mKNR5ZtbCZv4DBWgXs8mDTcdX8hkBoB4qxnkCk90vj8uKl5L41iCEj71v0= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:4751:: with SMTP id u78-v6mr29347504lja.72.1540217272904; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181022160457.6f44d232.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181022160457.6f44d232.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Kyle Evans Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:07:40 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: rc.conf(5): comparing kld_list and kldload To: freebsd@edvax.de Cc: grahamperrin@gmail.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:07:55 -0000 On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:05 AM Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:26:18 +0100, Graham Perrin wrote: > > From : > > > > > =E2=80=A6 > > > > > > kld_list (str) A list of kernel modules to load right after > > > the local disks are mounted. Loading modules at > > > this point in the boot process is much faster than > > > doing it via /boot/loader.conf for those modules > > > not necessary for mounting local disk. > > > =E2=80=A6 > > > > Is there ever any benefit to using kldload instead of kld_list? > > It is important when you consider the _time_ during system > startup. Sometimes modules require to be loaded at a certain > time, that's when you can (or cannot) use kld_list, which is > the _default_ method of loading kernel modules. > > early: via /boot/loader.conf > > intermediate: via kld_list in /etc/rc.conf > > almost final: via kldload calls in /etc/rc.local > > It's also possible for scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ to > load kernel modules, and you could even add something to > /etc/rc itself to achieve "really final" loading (even though > manual additions to /etc/rc are discouraged for good reasons). > It's worth noting that /boot/loader.conf is not an option for drm modules in head and stable/12, so only the above "intermediate" and "almost final" options are suitable for testing here. Thanks, Kyle Evans From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 14:19:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209F2FFDB4D for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3E267C15E for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1540217959; x=1542809959; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=bVi0I6pSJ54oEeptCJpzmwoc0g4pycthbqKZiGuOa+Q=; b=MWZCXRdKeGNkzz1hoDJo1Jqtf9cg1RRBUDJgZ5VLYxYDM22w8N55Wx5gK2EjR2ptd/y0r8xLsatSMjAMxGCYaEqu9UL7+7oXG9YD1QOertcx9wSpS9Ru628uzSQDIyaTjv9jlZlLRgsGgCZFwIUeVXlwMkYWk+DlM62gOHVS/ZE= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDA1YWU3NzIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.h.in.socketlabs.com (r3.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.13]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:19:10 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:19:10 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gEb2x-000JQL-IF; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:19:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:19:07 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: rc.conf(5): comparing kld_list and kldload Message-Id: <20181022151907.77bfb3ca0241af5901edfa56@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20181022160457.6f44d232.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181022160457.6f44d232.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:19:19 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:04:57 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > almost final: via kldload calls in /etc/rc.local > > It's also possible for scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ to > load kernel modules, and you could even add something to > /etc/rc itself to achieve "really final" loading (even though > manual additions to /etc/rc are discouraged for good reasons). For module loading really final is on demand. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 14:45:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E134FFEBD3 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80D6B7D596; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MRCFu-1g0D622zpM-00N9cq; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:32:30 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MRCFu-1g0D622zpM-00N9cq; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:32:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 16:32:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kyle Evans Cc: grahamperrin@gmail.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: rc.conf(5): comparing kld_list and kldload Message-Id: <20181022163230.087a3423.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20181022160457.6f44d232.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:r4jdHP8PYVNbPtbVCnxEnzQefYeQSJYfRVz3ZXCezzVqperF2dy t8mTRNxmU0CdWdN2w0jSZxHQEQnh411kbt2hqEkt1dCSINr/cLBkkRoOdgJhznHbZq/1iA5 LijG9+aHWkaIzbhYiEntVBGRgXkEZ7rvXfqcUZbT5hJk0KeUU8ZXbZVZSrhgetUWoaMT0O5 qbgzbxn+f9KXpDFPrGexQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:q2zotsOSJFQ=:cN2lYwJms7t44PbB40YqY3 7RcM2UGrrTZ60x6/rE+EfW6O+ITKcbTN3LfljkupInP3iHXQIwh3UnCngCdC3mmY+DMuTgQNJ DmJz9MJG1hIbSgFXtzI3Gs6I6FRUBZpO03CLb6MrLQiuw/EkToX6OQmeSIxq19QMA5LRlBGqw ibBKj7/xg5+mCanHwLNHoRE8ftHiAGOq3r34qqkfuXn7eh/9TVUKy7vm/HBDhPq66jYUxovGJ ZKKCuVmi6Xi5P25Ce7cJfNQLPZ0rrvWZbgZCbNwt/cdI5Jx7KhyRAk46BWvrmCtbnPOrOvcTa yAZpIiT7gehRa51H46VR7pVxopf0eVjon5UJYgkQSB7z1dx6/gcGA6qEXzFsuFV7qxdzDH5gf 1b5ag2FhlohynRPApCplTjjOWodLQnm3OZAP98oVJ47scsZzmMMEZTlhWlkDyTKBIOej3ikBX uNnkbnykj97sAE6uu57D+g9JjU1ExO5uGjxd67ostG7o0FPsfc3KeYizc8xykGHt2gHCAUthY f0ldpv545G1FHMhMENN/ONgzMSSAeFS/7K4osIGEEdjqlX28aGBr8ofjyG/KB5//Or4yK42/o t1vbHZVVL4e3m3a9CnKSaYtL10KyhNO6+e47ltRkgK+KIZgaHhXdxDFdzMoujVFxUQ+OXTQFh k2WHyIKjdC+xmSSmBknABmtsq0t13nm52JIj3cZdb70pcBexvjwXMIPvKtTs/cZ1gow6AQ8ye SYowbV5TykiT5PRx X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:45:30 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:07:40 -0500, Kyle Evans wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:05 AM Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 05:26:18 +0100, Graham Perrin wrote: > > > From : > > > > > > > … > > > > > > > > kld_list (str) A list of kernel modules to load right after > > > > the local disks are mounted. Loading modules at > > > > this point in the boot process is much faster than > > > > doing it via /boot/loader.conf for those modules > > > > not necessary for mounting local disk. > > > > … > > > > > > Is there ever any benefit to using kldload instead of kld_list? > > > > It is important when you consider the _time_ during system > > startup. Sometimes modules require to be loaded at a certain > > time, that's when you can (or cannot) use kld_list, which is > > the _default_ method of loading kernel modules. > > > > early: via /boot/loader.conf > > > > intermediate: via kld_list in /etc/rc.conf > > > > almost final: via kldload calls in /etc/rc.local > > > > It's also possible for scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ to > > load kernel modules, and you could even add something to > > /etc/rc itself to achieve "really final" loading (even though > > manual additions to /etc/rc are discouraged for good reasons). > > > > It's worth noting that /boot/loader.conf is not an option for drm > modules in head and stable/12, so only the above "intermediate" and > "almost final" options are suitable for testing here. Exactly! Before the kld_load setting appeared in /etc/rc.conf, the common suggestion for such cases was to add a call to kldload in the /etc/rc.local script for this specific purpose. The mechanism that /etc/rc provides makes this much more convenient. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 15:17:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85947FFF9DA for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B7BC7E7E9 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail4.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.4]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A455060009 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:42 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:42 +0000 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Message-ID: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:51 -0000 okay, so i might be getting on the nerves of some people with my rhetoric about unnecessary dependencies, and i am really sorry about that. i just don't seem to understand why a package like chez-scheme-9.5 has to depend upon x11 libraries; libX11, libxcb, libXdmcp, xorgproto and libXau. the rest, i.e. libxml2 and libpthread are understandable, but why x11? also, would like to know the method to find the name and email address of a package creator/maintainer so that i can contact him/her directly, that would be better than tormenting this mailing list, i think. ;-) and is it possible to accomplish the above using the "pkg" tools. thanks, ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 15:28:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665B71008277 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch (mail-40132.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 003A27F8F5 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:28:25 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:28:37 -0000 > okay, so i might be getting on the nerves of some people with my > rhetoric > about unnecessary dependencies, and i am really sorry about that. > > i just don't seem to understand why a package like chez-scheme-9.5 has > to > depend upon x11 libraries; libX11, libxcb, libXdmcp, xorgproto and > libXau. > the rest, i.e. libxml2 and libpthread are understandable, but why x11? > > also, would like to know the method to find the name and email address > of > a package creator/maintainer so that i can contact him/her directly, > that > would be better than tormenting this mailing list, i think. ;-) > and is it possible to accomplish the above using the "pkg" tools. > > thanks, > > ~mayuresh To contact the maintainer directly you should post a bug on the following w= ebsite: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ If the summary of your bug starts with "category/portname: " (for example, = www/firefox: ), then the maintainer will automaticaly receive an e-mail with your bug descr= iption. If you want to contact the maintainer without the bugzilla intermediary, yo= u can find the e-mail address looking at the output of pkg info (for example, "pkg info www/firefox"). Lorenzo Salvadore. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 15:42:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBE41008CE0 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:42:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CDB580637 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MV5G4-1g59sl161O-00S3UN; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:42:17 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue106 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MV5G4-1g59sl161O-00S3UN; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:42:17 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:42:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mayuresh@kathe.in Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? Message-Id: <20181022174216.e31b6f05.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bDuikZSa3WFBSkwuVKxv+GCue2QdBOyqVrOgH2PTIjEQ+uxYPlu E7l2DDRU35WMVHaDyLAV+fxhxuXz4f0wMpen3QXXngcItGeeyzgJb/Ti4G+nOIH56x5icme FoBAlHVzPVaidqC/KTo8zuOArQ9M0YUtqrabJhDENuf9R/fiR/rNy9Ld3Ua1IucY3kQ3M3L EyltV90hBKBm5/WnwZnFw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:EeuXboOQe8E=:5HyEq4JTUsyD0Qw8SsOe3/ BJDxEeBy4om3V2ej0/AjhYbxFHsx2R7lzwT+hRUuksTuWQ1eM+Bj7rWDU65Xx7Z+jjmrXDTtI g+c1DA+9TRvFxvHefqzLbRjsQYzVjDM758jEn19Bk5xuEVNwoTkNdB5DV1nVDzTwFJSmDdm4W wQw1pr7WBowj/GXav610/6I6eCKIHvkrWsQkTes5tjWep28iz5e9PaG3dOlf7yhTG2kQEVnZX nzngvdTuiIJlFNq10dac0Ereu70daT66DS6E+NkF3PzUhcquftFPZSsBkpGsYI9wDkRlKctVn 5B3BZtAnI9RDCfbutcFZe+/KqWsOHfOf2SQU9zZjBsGbHjkCJKM8lQL56+st87tFLcHY0Mq9w 2HPfmVrXmMjLxpmETiQ0NlaAJeok4VI1bJ+6cqK6zZBMVpcIzK/Rz736mQMO61ejM2rzd1a2D fppcag0z7+AlmTdjjTrH0MS9faSSViozqN7hzx8Kz4n0EDp26SZDXgNq3KLI5HDHU/H1bSdwI noJ7EDcm69jU6y6/tx/9Do0NQCirkbJQYo9iqSQwg16wE4GxJEoIQKNnIwH44J87K6zRU4nyL uUmJn0ipeuoD6yn1moMUL9AY+iFwVWshDQt7Ahe5Ka1oRofEl3uCebw9tsMJWWa4Hdk5/6C5L yZiIGdFFD7iN9ibU1DL3ARiMOzbZRyLSLulTvYm/nc2aUIGbQwNrHSLSRjn8spESAuB351mnh x0EM5/9jU0/VaZ+X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:42:20 -0000 On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:42 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > okay, so i might be getting on the nerves of some people with my > rhetoric > about unnecessary dependencies, and i am really sorry about that. > > i just don't seem to understand why a package like chez-scheme-9.5 has > to > depend upon x11 libraries; libX11, libxcb, libXdmcp, xorgproto and > libXau. > the rest, i.e. libxml2 and libpthread are understandable, but why x11? Maybe because the Chez Scheme system includes X11 support by default. Maybe you can try the port "petite-chez"? It does have much less dependencies (but I'm not sure it is functionally equivalent). > also, would like to know the method to find the name and email address > of > a package creator/maintainer so that i can contact him/her directly, > that > would be better than tormenting this mailing list, i think. ;-) > and is it possible to accomplish the above using the "pkg" tools. The easiest way is to get a ports tree using the "portsnap" tool, and then check the following two files: /usr/ports/lang/chez-scheme/pkg-descr - here you will find the general web page of the project, in this specific case, https://cisco.github.io/ChezScheme /usr/ports/lang/chez-scheme/Makefile - search for "MAINTAINER=", it will list the email adress of the corresponding FreeBSD port, here, ashish@FreeBSD.org It is also possible to do this with pkg: "pkg info -f ", but this only works for packages that have been installed. Again, check for the "Maintainer" entry. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 15:53:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935F310364FC for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4ED811A0 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E567D10364F9; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FC610364F7 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE5E8119E for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD0479F49D; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w9MFrIwP056197; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:53:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w9MFrHUf056193; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:53:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:53:17 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com X-X-Sender: doug@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Ian Smith cc: Polytropon , questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: FreeBSD boot manager customization for single-disk multiboot (4 x DOS) In-Reply-To: <50139023-EF23-4464-8E99-4958CB3A3044@exemail.com.au> Message-ID: References: <50139023-EF23-4464-8E99-4958CB3A3044@exemail.com.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:53:18 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:53:25 -0000 On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Ian Smith wrote: > Hi there heroic wanderer, it's been a while. > > I only rarely read questions@ these days, from the archives, but this one I thought maybe I could help with. I'm in a care situation, tapping this out in K9mail on a small phone, so will try to be concise. > > I've read the thread. Manish is trying to help but his DOS familiarity doesn?t go back far enough. I started at 2 and used 3.3 (with Desqview), later 5.0 for years running Fidonet mailer, BBS, message editor, DOS command space and other tasks in 6 MiB RAM .. so had to learn how to really squeeze things in - as did you, I gather. > > Correct, you cannot boot DOS from a non-primary partition. Maybe you could use GRUB, it installs after the MBR on track 0 side 0 so shouldn't get in the way. > > I dont think you need to install linux to install GRUB? That said, I don't use it myself. To add linux to the 4-DOS mix would need an extended partition, leaving only 3 primaries for 3 x DOS. Same deal with OS/2, with its great boot manager. > > boot0.s MBR code is VERY tight with about ZERO free space as I recall .. however there's code there - still was at 9.x I think - for a 1? (2 sector) version written by the same author (Robert Nordier IIRC, I don't have a system to hand). That should have plenty of room for more lavish labels, and may in fact include such code? If you have a spare system you could assemble that and test. > > Of course you'll have a backup MBR (directed more at other readers :) > > One thing to watch is that esp. earlier versions of DOS may want to use the first slice explicitly? I'm not sure, but I'd start with earliest versions first, and test each as you go. > > Please CC me on any replies. > > cheers, Ian I wrote DOS MultiBoot for DOS and OS/2 many moons ago. My memory is with DOS 4 the rules about where the 2nd level boot code went were relaxed. The boot code invooked from the BIOS had to be in sector 0 of the first track on the disk. In those days you had the rest of the track to "play" with. I do not know if any of that historical information helps but I am 99% sure my memory is accurate. If track 0 is still available perhaps grub could be installed there? Booting passed me by a couple of decades ago. I hope the history helps. Do post to let us know the outcome. 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Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in In-Reply-To: <20181022174216.e31b6f05.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> <20181022174216.e31b6f05.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <04ce19a12fa88f988c3186611de1efac@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:02:52 -0000 On 2018-10-22 03:42 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:17:42 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >> okay, so i might be getting on the nerves of some people with my >> rhetoric >> about unnecessary dependencies, and i am really sorry about that. >> >> i just don't seem to understand why a package like chez-scheme-9.5 has >> to >> depend upon x11 libraries; libX11, libxcb, libXdmcp, xorgproto and >> libXau. >> the rest, i.e. libxml2 and libpthread are understandable, but why x11? > > Maybe because the Chez Scheme system includes X11 support > by default. > > Maybe you can try the port "petite-chez"? It does have much > less dependencies (but I'm not sure it is functionally > equivalent). i would have loved to work with petite-chez instead of the bloat that is the full chez-scheme. petite-chez while still present in the ports tree is long dead. they even mention it in there. >> also, would like to know the method to find the name and email address >> of >> a package creator/maintainer so that i can contact him/her directly, >> that >> would be better than tormenting this mailing list, i think. ;-) >> and is it possible to accomplish the above using the "pkg" tools. > > The easiest way is to get a ports tree using the "portsnap" > tool, and then check the following two files: > > /usr/ports/lang/chez-scheme/pkg-descr - here you will find > the general web page of the project, in this specific case, > https://cisco.github.io/ChezScheme > > /usr/ports/lang/chez-scheme/Makefile - search for "MAINTAINER=", > it will list the email adress of the corresponding FreeBSD > port, here, ashish@FreeBSD.org okay, cool, thanks polytropon. > It is also possible to do this with pkg: "pkg info -f ", > but this only works for packages that have been installed. > Again, check for the "Maintainer" entry. thanks again. :-) ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 04:04:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76DEFFFB72; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4055287326; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail7.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.7]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C955020004; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:04:00 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:03:59 +0000 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Lorenzo Salvadore Cc: FreeBSD Questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in In-Reply-To: References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> Message-ID: <48e2e4b5bdbf6924d3f5484238f52041@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:04:08 -0000 On 2018-10-22 03:28 PM, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: >> okay, so i might be getting on the nerves of some people with my >> rhetoric >> about unnecessary dependencies, and i am really sorry about that. >> >> i just don't seem to understand why a package like chez-scheme-9.5 has >> to >> depend upon x11 libraries; libX11, libxcb, libXdmcp, xorgproto and >> libXau. >> the rest, i.e. libxml2 and libpthread are understandable, but why x11? >> >> also, would like to know the method to find the name and email address >> of >> a package creator/maintainer so that i can contact him/her directly, >> that >> would be better than tormenting this mailing list, i think. ;-) >> and is it possible to accomplish the above using the "pkg" tools. >> >> thanks, >> >> ~mayuresh > > To contact the maintainer directly you should post a bug on the > following website: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ > > If the summary of your bug starts with "category/portname: " (for > example, www/firefox: ), > then the maintainer will automaticaly receive an e-mail with your bug > description. > > If you want to contact the maintainer without the bugzilla > intermediary, you > can find the e-mail address looking at the output of pkg info (for > example, > "pkg info www/firefox"). okay, that's a rather nice approach. thanks lorenzo, much appreciate that tip. ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 06:04:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C18110385A3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net (relay12.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DADF8B5B3 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@kathe.in) Received: from webmail.gandi.net (webmail1.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.1]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 66C67200007 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:04:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:04:23 +0000 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd layered with chez-scheme Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Mail-Reply-To: mayuresh@kathe.in Message-ID: <142be589bc88406eeeade749b72d765f@kathe.in> X-Sender: mayuresh@kathe.in User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.1.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:04:31 -0000 would my understanding of systems (as below) be right? there's the freebsd kernel which is layered upon with the libc and other supporting libraries like libm. this combination is layered upon with the userland with code in place to provide security? given the above, would i be right in assuming that a similar setup can be used, say with something like chez-scheme to provide the userland? so essentially, the kernel would be layered with the libraries, which would support chez-scheme running in multi-threaded mode. then the rest of the userland would be a set of scheme programs. obviously, that would not be unix due to it's non-posix nature as well as difference in philosophy, but it could be the start of something new. ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 06:17:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9371038C7D; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C34DB8BB47; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id k4so84089uao.1; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:17:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro-info.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=MAg2q9J6Dh+dqSrjvKmIXD3z4+je+LX0BIsTbO2m67c=; b=zdkCdbktczOWso4SHpFzIQkJagitobR+3TKPcDlswEeod8KAYXFnzgyMUHk9j+nCL3 XYrr2+EMtlCY2pqP2DF/zdDhc/qBwniqfT68xhIF60e0lvUh6F4mqcIoKRA6LkA5/cyK bmRAslJKRfQP6KWSgWc6d7/B2dg27R8be5EdePWTdKgZLZ9Liy+l/0P/rMDLol+jbNsv aSrQlMKKcY0FsP2zeFFmH7R2x928SspCVoc9jMVWGXTZbpSy3FVguqZX5Mu7PIyFTBFU MSXidLA6h1mOg/TpRlZF5/iHBTN5meaaqbAY1d5sB32aSZsbvyZJQiZWZlzfY83YYyZp RlvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=MAg2q9J6Dh+dqSrjvKmIXD3z4+je+LX0BIsTbO2m67c=; b=ZaPghxxM44gdx54dYuyd64bYegX4eudo8yQ4oU25eqaXP0A3ARUl0yGlSBLdMGZHyc TBzHOvesqYVSjorsjqvY9yM+7PQdB0u15/rsr6EmK7LRFy2bmxxXfZX2xe8OByi6IOBR UNqLWbzvOYX3TTB0u3SuzRfyf/ti/EPU4JnCBuUfLCm7pbsNMjILzKRBCM/DsX4DLfeN 1nDRAe8zv/11JsLxhrQquD2/92W0DnZ0RpJN3hANEOW/sMVll+UY4VMLXJ+XHwchBZg1 oPlt9lO9c4bzYD4u5zsupvNlKPIgvWe8BmwXSlVD9s937A+ucBFVZZ+kxb+oOg6OZ2MP bRxw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogtfrw9jS4U0tKThmgP3MUqiF88E7hHCK1sy9xVgzlU7h+Go2Fq +CCdPJ6S8ABoozUZaYyrXIuwkwHeJ6+TnpJIDmGrXA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61orDkKCqCLrYE3qPPJYE7FtMd/eWDkaunHDRwdM7FVyb2fP1KYf9TtV/KgM5P6g4aBGUesQWFqUHu2ARd9A8Q= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:4327:: with SMTP id k36mr22045269uak.46.1540275457064; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:17:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> <20181022174216.e31b6f05.freebsd@edvax.de> <04ce19a12fa88f988c3186611de1efac@kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <04ce19a12fa88f988c3186611de1efac@kathe.in> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:17:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? 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Best Regards, *Alisha Wilson | Digital Marketing Specialist* [image: beacon] From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 11:44:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DB610764C1; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D941774D6; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MOQyE-1fxlYs1j2s-00PwWb; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:36:08 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MOQyE-1fxlYs1j2s-00PwWb; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:36:08 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:36:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tomasz CEDRO Cc: mayuresh@kathe.in, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? Message-Id: <20181023123607.bca0fac8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> <20181022174216.e31b6f05.freebsd@edvax.de> <04ce19a12fa88f988c3186611de1efac@kathe.in> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:UhgfZvbft+ZE4oOWsyPee9DelyPe3yD3H5SBs9Z0e07QJ3BatP+ 6/Ld0EJcXe6geiAiFLy0fnO9VjGAYqi71vPzRmawnrGriy1JGScTIUiOn9BYGUiMf4p5oVf zZS95i59EobFwTkRK7MQtQZEzXg3WOCvmt3sEusIZwCc6d0cnYztM1nNLH9ez0Cmaw7tZZM 2fonVcuqtvyroCjCRvApg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:g02YrrLr4iE=:rK4IS2qIznEsdEMkW70UHV gGhAnwnhMwV5PrMtFx7fqTFCViYa2FeXmGyvqgydOJsruPVgx4bqZAk/EKde7D0juc7OShgzn PaSPok7Hcat8mDKpkREAoAWu83cbj2T0Bo7w8tEdASjP27We80lJkOxWbh4zxg3zp7wy4TkrY tVXQFyXZ8H3QK5EBb2sjgcRaYf0fReFboWTNZv+bVT94cOMQc85Vzfks5ciEOFk4mB9w7YioY wj851ynRRF0I2ZlqtVAso9GvOQ+ycDC8sr7ifSSPoDjoCSkQcHnB4fpU56KkfJlDmygMwWWg1 d1kx1QUsoFUH1rLgtq2e35gwufcqK4joeZMkNcNwzXTJUxEARTpnP5QYrn/QM9gQnu4R7zAR1 fKnD8aBYtnagZrizYId2lH9RGhU9eW59PQfRhPLTKZHhUnGR2PUW6uOkNDa8hXW3NfOUFdEYf SaIuor8L6jHhs/IfAgqcO/hW5QZrD6eJMXDMygU4Y18yvcO7gMabd8G3cg5SaZrmoNvwhX8gY xx1zbIGy5JSZz5ScQjbw3Fqx2BjFogiAGaYC/UWbWo4iOXK5bdc57C/JygBoMkxx2kjAQic3s /czJ2u+a7/SRALNuug4cfgklVNeUgK7jLB7vPpgmAjFeb81SiTxzlITGN+MdRyD1e8gl+6Lre tzMLNQSwYpLi/HrIk3E9hn3CJ8i0JSATMu5EX3RsGGzX93QZakUZ1nYX8W3QZ7MpDgL4z9UF+ Nh3NNVUxRFN9xWqQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:44:42 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:17:25 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > Maybe this is a good time to ask: is for PKG possible or can be possible in > future to support different package variants / build options? :-) Yes, "pkg flavors" is the surrounding concept here. It will allow you to select from more than one set of build options for a certain package. It's comparable to the "-no-x11" or "-without-gui" or "de-" packages that already existed in ye olden pkg_* times, but it will be much more versatile. This concept is explained for ports, but will arrive in binary packages too, if I understand the improvement in pkg right: The regular build structure will build (sub-)packages according to "flavored Makefiles", and those can then be obtained from the regular repositories. The dependency resolution will then act according to the actual dependencies. The following resources might be interesting: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/flavors.html https://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/FlavorsAndSubPackages https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-go-with-flavor.65669/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 11:45:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A87310765A0; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x943.google.com (mail-ua1-x943.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::943]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24C057760A; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x943.google.com with SMTP id w12so360707uam.9; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:45:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro-info.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=X2baDs/eNQKJjBIIj6/jjjq0cPzja0CDfeVUmMgkM9E=; b=cN8ry5Qxz2ah4yk21JwYszqG75NOBa2rNqJgJiw7DTU9Lob56t4dvaHksiTBbYonGk KhV0WK5bRYMfmU92EmKvn+TWoUmFd0xqDTyCZoVtWzkfiHg1FA5ymaXdA/SdtuMxRkpg 2h34t4A8olKpdib4zuG/1n8NG9xd+BbRDNkCUOgit1+A6zzxeFhM8Uoe9pEuB3wLFWLY xVojmZ4hm/LQSw/8R7SUU0NdVkg5QtNsoIv4PCtIZ3H3sMXHdBUfu91dQ81k0KdYBaiu 8SRtlOoMqON0OZ1MqPz55HGdmB/6LvC73+HYYfqr/jTOLRv2HnW1nNfr1iXBpgIQA5B/ C7YQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X2baDs/eNQKJjBIIj6/jjjq0cPzja0CDfeVUmMgkM9E=; b=aqUYFYf3waCaxJjoCRHAr7NvL3Ewnj58XKwDD6wtRT063cus78yhrC15/RFldkMl6X J0TYB7aFccrls/u3ae+E4WEbhKxOXcxUKNFjd/iUpb9S9uBGdr98v0hGhdJSX39aTmEJ m3CM3LamRJqWIicj5KWS4LS1EP4BiKNmnNwkuWsIZAoM5dkqF71wdOmrij4FEa2HfRJQ i4ofIdufi3OEsqSs5B5gP1/jSOezoBIwdWzi16sVGtfiWfsguSzvgWILt8obHezPWMnV ZY6dg+wpWrC9cqGQtXkcFG09Hr+863Fdh3Lm9PPeUpfqnby2C/3CV2fNwi68pT3/bZQV vT5w== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojKJGIUGzqMeqZ+owtNesTAKqhL8tiZ6Phj5rCW+GnGXqpbCNgG 67XRNs4wSPe1vFaETE2YKWu2o2oQNmZsIxgbGcLq4A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61y+sZv6kPNCGo1S8PROQP+N6+65kTSxdX6uBDVFsfIQ0bCQD/5aJJ9oD3Ozzwybk1xG912Gk1GPSRSItz+0t8= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:4327:: with SMTP id k36mr22475475uak.46.1540295138538; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 04:45:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3cbeeae36d508d23eaec97715a8b8760@kathe.in> <20181022174216.e31b6f05.freebsd@edvax.de> <04ce19a12fa88f988c3186611de1efac@kathe.in> <20181023123607.bca0fac8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20181023123607.bca0fac8.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:45:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: package : chez-scheme-9.5 : x11 dependencies : why? To: Polytropon Cc: mayuresh@kathe.in, FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:45:39 -0000 Awsome! Tanks Poly! :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info wt., 23 pa=C5=BA 2018, 12:36 u=C5=BCytkownik Polytropon = napisa=C5=82: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:17:25 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > Maybe this is a good time to ask: is for PKG possible or can be possibl= e > in > > future to support different package variants / build options? :-) > > Yes, "pkg flavors" is the surrounding concept here. It will > allow you to select from more than one set of build options > for a certain package. It's comparable to the "-no-x11" or > "-without-gui" or "de-" packages that already existed in > ye olden pkg_* times, but it will be much more versatile. > > This concept is explained for ports, but will arrive in binary > packages too, if I understand the improvement in pkg right: > The regular build structure will build (sub-)packages according > to "flavored Makefiles", and those can then be obtained from > the regular repositories. The dependency resolution will then > act according to the actual dependencies. > > The following resources might be interesting: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/flavors.html > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Ports/FlavorsAndSubPackages > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-to-go-with-flavor.65669/ > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 18:06:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A15AFEE698 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42a.google.com (mail-wr1-x42a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B56E890A6 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 18:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42a.google.com with SMTP id g9-v6so2723148wrq.4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=aTkGjsdS/Waoc6TS5TbXOU4WV4KBjOb6a0wwGtuH/g0=; b=CgfFyglV4JPyG+lQQ7QMCCvvBfr9LSPtkOwqYJtR+dosj3OCox8j9my/XkHMIAupf+ PbuKWgpBCti1drNOtYgXpGxIFLgZQswSfDY+/t8KJPkqAKVf4XEM0LNDGTELy8bm5LuS xR9QU2qJzvtXopqSM89fBpk3uDOCvLvJ7JaZVQQaUgkgUWKUvGMlTP0Zt6jeqnnD75Av E07QKLmQ8Meen6D4t5bxuG+adUyQtM/q+KP9z3pM3y1tGuCPsByoz+arzFOGDFiqMfua Ji9e081UjYZjzGRR43dqlUDo9Vc0TbPM/vSQj5OIDJ9x7WFqcSLuLzz5JA6Gx4xirFG3 f9AA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=aTkGjsdS/Waoc6TS5TbXOU4WV4KBjOb6a0wwGtuH/g0=; b=da8KKaLauiT7W1tSrSppk2gOypn3jcjPzMLVtQorjVJkCh2zR7jxCCEXpfOYQ+U6MK xQQXJYPsZzq7CMb8Ht8DVH0BtGtuWZSLQMSpJcuHFt7rsZDnLyHuyxMkCu26SRb6ctKv 1uVaIci9jFzxILc4FYoKFVl7t9QPcg127vi9AekIEo2YGRUJyVWWXtK4qHN/OsWw1aVL wdKxe83M2aGN7BQfww5nftzLibM0gF1nI6npuDj9NRXNPJ+SpjucEbq6j1e+B5qBx0lL 49mYHmGvwWEkJYcHvU+lGk8NhQbarN1Ll/q82nYt3VqAF9XZ6cJqUoy0GKOI+2tl7hZ5 ObGw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog+pEhQF6f+umyEdNbxlchpqaqi5d4teNzo2kuuKbgrci+pq4MA l7QADDQlaf74cRuuQKJPQw0gOqUYcRo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV63zxPjKHL5Nk1+hZrOKjJUQUm6gC5h7SZCgMaxfTPwbKUYAh8jOlewe09vqKlkIYZDxDi1Shw== X-Received: by 2002:adf:eb03:: with SMTP id s3-v6mr53435272wrn.281.1540318008451; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.231] (79-66-139-63.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. 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A+ Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 24 13:26:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4296FD6CF3 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x444.google.com (mail-wr1-x444.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::444]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B2C98C002 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x444.google.com with SMTP id w5-v6so5606608wrt.2 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:26:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4WoSsF9HZSzH3Nvk/s/+1xW75SaydObfJpd3PiwMOQk=; b=dJ7SfqzwikLs0z7uYPm/HPdQk34Mt5g/5OjovpSh4RRm8Hm+q3lDfVBH3HZExANbB3 RmfbY1WNPLNccKZ5YEsoEuVdGrt0OBkYA0N5ov2W64OYzSihcHYiG+gr4e4fR4ibdwLo aawSdGQjUyLcqobnUqKE7GpJRXP/EDy/qPM7q9KUjhpt5MUOKOJMBJ81L6gUzQZVnlKz N90vr+wKjInLxc5jSY1HtZYZ3d8R3Xfxqk+Vv9mKohJYE4IDJdLzOsX8xpFrRUxZ+mmU 58rxINB6KXbjEARf2uMtXkhRVl+95chht1uSrone3+WBOO50lErd1RfM6vSyW4086xvD 0JiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKWU4dpjiRGZtf/cWvb3DbeQcu3lmCFFGXrHHmj6zAJTTlVxVUP YsQN7T+Yb+9mloYmqU9TInSuD/daovQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5edLbH4ucMNQkh4R9Bq6dcbBW/5vrj88/kJru/tOHb8n/eLw/SvTXhz/g5uIPNj07IommnQbQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:f782:: with SMTP id q2-v6mr2799691wrp.152.1540387558702; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.195.195.31]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e133-v6sm6068671wma.42.2018.10.24.06.25.57 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 24 Oct 2018 06:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:25:55 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd layered with chez-scheme Message-ID: <20181024142555.23ba267c@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1540362643.1933933.1552636744.138E61D3@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <142be589bc88406eeeade749b72d765f@kathe.in> <1540362643.1933933.1552636744.138E61D3@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:26:00 -0000 On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:30:43 +0200 Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, at 08:04, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > so essentially, the kernel would be layered with the libraries, > > which would support chez-scheme running in multi-threaded mode. > > then the rest of the userland would be a set of scheme programs. > > ~mayuresh > > Although not exactly what you had in mind, this reminds me of rump > kernels: It sounds more like Android, but with a different kernel and Scheme instead of Java. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 24 14:17:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28482FEB35F for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96BA593E8A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MWSFB-1g51570Bx5-00XpgC; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:17:06 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.180.181]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MWSFB-1g51570Bx5-00XpgC; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:17:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:17:05 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mayuresh@kathe.in Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd layered with chez-scheme Message-Id: <20181024161705.669e999e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <142be589bc88406eeeade749b72d765f@kathe.in> References: <142be589bc88406eeeade749b72d765f@kathe.in> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lhnYK64V4T70kabEi7vbRD7KiaV1MT28jdgKuzvIK+tQZTXwnz6 ULd0CU5CzjYQaGZJEAR54Hs5xwhoWcw/5JK6k/ru6fFrdF/I8HQu0GJ/oHQ2Wy8DUpBZiM8 MCOi1jJ3EmqZocza5+X5FJTQE1O1dfyyahhpKiIKr444+MZ2Jf16yEqRawndW9JbRcjVHlH ET6hxZiorllzz8nWuHceQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:RYu8oEpUVb8=:xogun07YqDI5P+kkPkdq/y 0dPTMD9KKWW9vvxrQXpxoE9yXnrN9uW7cGaCD5GvkeBW5IaRXzANyAWKeCGblcfYpBnx/Dnp2 X87vtAHCqwaixqhUvY4Y9CpVButUa3eeS/a7WtzmfgKEvWk1mETM85MfHKSF3uyvQrvO0wZZ1 9v7GdIc01KIrX59cXK9zhhdMisUk991bOAuKmY7OIf2crWeq7CDs5rHc3/B7E8fqGyPCTLof3 LbIjHFa7SB8h9hfZPzLcDHaYr9UibhWqhdX4jKy8CbcERukOUWdOR+82op0+IVZ4gy+XSYb3I 0MdNnOcJhCZPLy7VDC+Iv+g16ykRbv638ukYDGAUc3AR3NQZh/yhxWoFGfblo18E9i8R4VApS cKlxy/CDtWovBYK5QOY/zFS4gCDL7W+TSrAp7YJhuoZDnmaM3Ebvgzi1Nd4jSKQjHxs5r9xSl WuIa63WbJzEt6op3dfVbHLy1l4CLWR9QVocRiECLV0BHRPag4tf17Cw4/wbVcKTxEAr76mR7u XsgZ7DBahhplB3AQ8ej9dqO/8vUZqghUJPFawuP8+pEr+ynt8aNHUJJWEkFIwwL40gYM3PkY+ FPDRIXAl/Hx17M/56Jiizlm3/EvPb9CP3P8gkuFGq/2xwgtyjHxMcs4nNg0HDQgEYsKJebXaS g6q/WSkDb1tPPbiBhXpQZMgm5aTNfuaN4RuIDQdvKYDxa3Ie33SGtBRjc9L92zERl5+2Usdrc PnHcz+Q+mx/uELlw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:17:15 -0000 On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:04:23 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > would my understanding of systems (as below) be right? > > there's the freebsd kernel which is layered upon with the libc > and other supporting libraries like libm. > this combination is layered upon with the userland with code > in place to provide security? That's not a very exact characterization (because, for example, code regarding security exists in many layers, and userland programs can access both library functions and kernel inter- faces), but in a general sense, this understanding is correct. > given the above, would i be right in assuming that a similar > setup can be used, say with something like chez-scheme to > provide the userland? > > so essentially, the kernel would be layered with the libraries, > which would support chez-scheme running in multi-threaded mode. > then the rest of the userland would be a set of scheme programs. Basically yes. The boot procedure of such a system would involve loading the kernel and its modules, and upon completition, the kernel would finally call init (or a custom equivalent). On FreeBSD, this initializes single- and eventually multi-user mode. A init-replacement could use the kernel interfaces too. For accessing the libraries, there would have to exist some kind of "ld equivalent" - a program that translates the calls to library functions to the actual libraries, and calls the corresponding object code stored in them. > obviously, that would not be unix due to it's non-posix nature > as well as difference in philosophy, but it could be the start > of something new. Definitely. There would be some kind of "minimum compatibility" (in case you don't want to re-implement functionality existing in the system libraries, such as the libc). You also had to create the required replacements of typical userland programs. But you could probably use all the functionality already included in the FreeBSD kernel, especially the access to device drivers. If I remember correctly, there was (or still is?) a Linux version that isn't Linux - it uses a FreeBSD kernel and a GNU userland. This is of course much easier as Linux uses comparable calling mechanisms. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@harte-lyne.ca Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:05:52 -0000 Inside a FreeBSD-11.2p4 jail I am trying to update the packages specific to that jail. However, when I run the command: pkg-static upgrade -f . . . I end up with this: . . . Proceed with this action? [y/N]: y pkg-static: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/quarterly/All/pkg-1.10.5_1.txz: Not Found The current pkg is 1.10.5_5 but I know of no way to force the current package to fetch it instead of 1.10.5_1. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:34:34 -0000 On Wed, October 24, 2018 14:05, James B. Byrne wrote: > Inside a FreeBSD-11.2p4 jail I am trying to update the packages > specific to that jail. However, when I run the command: > > pkg-static upgrade -f > . . . Instead should be: pkg-static update -f -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Don't forget about the disgrace and to ignore, Your life can be ruin= ed. _________________________________________________________________________= ___________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 25 20:38:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E914108839D for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A1B723FF for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FB071803F for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:38:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Hi, victim. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <07d4a00ce8dd424e68bd0b58ac5a404c714bdd3a@inboxpayssurveys.com> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:38:40 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <07d4a00ce8dd424e68bd0b58ac5a404c714bdd3a@inboxpayssurveys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 20:38:48 -0000 Forget the payment, where is the promised good stuff captured ;-) -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 25 22:37:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6771B10CB562 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.191.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F162076711 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: 8pMG5R0VM1l4D4Rr_i.bdfH0faD6aH4w1Blc8H5yvAZzOhMsij9DmRlIHRY9v4F l1oJ6LXXW0t75svgDVAiM5gcICP5hFjUWf2eBYPoZisMY1FJYkvtZ3j8TUnW4ALRhb0nMdti2Ydq QpL5WrF6Harqlw_il58DXFJDUB8nEJfvCjo1RPLOIbk.si0mD5U3uIn7sWRR3aGEl2P9DA2y1TzL QBOBHQjfCTrtqmIwyVSKhdCmbPTzlSphmdLF8ZhaA8_7ndtaj0qO5lU8OP79UF46PHO8TrmoDZQO Z1zeTKzqvZ4.Ab.lGv7CCHjrIO3g0ieVTutAhpBqVsj.oWof7J0S9C_E_D7B_br6C6KGGuc_m.UQ ag6vo1lP2KSDx_hQRBBJDaJfwZ7I6xdqoibtF4Y.aTZ1u3sb6Ee0qQeM7O62QFkk2WkgrwCT4eCH tnrczHngdKhjIq.8IVVYv3exKEQH_NPDLXVtC1quqR7kBsaZy2TlaF1fWF7Xjycz7qJP1H1tpU_S OgSS0o4.ttJo2VheLsXm8dJcgNPZVQhy22IHvKfX9wkB.U4k36Yakv8FzXU7vFjpdfcVOSmysBKG dlLfQBhPfZBbEpNP8Vxo2qcGHd7lKintM9jbgtlRPK.QTgWOZtnJJzuSg3heCdt4ayVYp8QCZkPB qgimlLMNVmlOASGEv1YPvElkntLGD9oYsrmbyWiNNT9tcwKdHzWervk.tp13twtl9pFz86MkNMhN H1dinQfmFUGWQldkPi.F5RHxF.8w7EDvr9LoGif4AQdcW2ijxiqiBxkavygHvMAxHY2ohjAd_jKo rM.LqqMu5Xn4FZDBEYjh8qa4MtEqh4lIPBTG4jTxU9wiVdKHXHdhexkCaZ7wraRLgcrWc5NHsrjC JvM1EysA6tlEh8N1riZ6zZRPjsHpx4Yw9gjbSGRdRC5bYdpIdv1GKZwXEEgI9zlfSd81kB6FfdgT TABMtyv1q.oZ7fxXaHN.VGMmvCvisS70WjDdeEEAXrIovu5lNtx3G3HbnWf2.Psms9dx7pfvAib0 - Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:37:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:37:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <870503036.506092.1540507058197@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <07d4a00ce8dd424e68bd0b58ac5a404c714bdd3a@inboxpayssurveys.com> Subject: Re: Hi, victim. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.12671 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:63.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 22:37:46 -0000 *checks the fridge*=C2=A0 OMG!!! They have my beer!=C2=A0 Give them the so= urce code!=C2=A0 Yes, give them the Open Source Code!!=C2=A0 Anything for t= he return of my beer!=20 P. On Thursday, October 25, 2018, 4:39:40 PM EDT, Valeri Galtsev wrote: =20 =20 =20 Forget the payment, where is the promised good stuff captured ;-) --=20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 26 13:53:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A512F10E3F89 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375EE78413 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id ED6DF10E3F88; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB59810E3F87 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com (mail-wm1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EE4878411 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id b203-v6so1529739wme.5 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 06:53:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bB98DtBPZhU39GAja3W3OtRm0JIhnDYTD5wgdRRXUkg=; b=JFs9hT8lgPQuL2FVNiAwldbGtN2jLiPYEVj7IAq7qUIb/D8BFt8+FW/nZA5X8OfsEV xrpy99fVkzoIO7v0CFic2vH/EdzqG76XxlU7RHvJLAbbkl0C6fneTY18Jz1z020yIP6a Ogs5OiKpMNqfa6lPmFCQeX/a3q5PGi8T8ZPdpI+2VzbgIQs2BLoz1FAOloY04vGD9r5g /2c11B71QMepT+nvb/7+2v50xB3NOEMvUFgWM7XfFccqxqCTvoC2H2qMeA2YmMViXcIu vB4lRhhpesSXTBcfo80D/5VeSsXc1/1d8VnAwVyPfiaDFO2CrrCTWB+K4M9toIyFVCOk 0Jfg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bB98DtBPZhU39GAja3W3OtRm0JIhnDYTD5wgdRRXUkg=; b=cs78K5OkPSUXYNbPpdolWZGE45203rc4uJrBFF+TWwOv9oDaYlr8SdyaCt40HB28rs t8N7IPcoZRwo0Nz/ur0pKYZRykByuuLxzy/hO+U5XthGv8O6IdiG4beyfjtKS8LIiEc5 ULokgvJKR3PfgoqYSp838lxpBHlPbAu+JMdBw3gQ1Hueu9ZeuqJWexGC4DA0BJ2Q9u5B LNmH05DMheqxa3foB6ULEpMfDYC4M0rnDB7hbtHZhUfKnhv9mO0snKo5yvB2qEwE4qj7 QnozBSF/KmMTe+tGIqu7/XuRaKxHbgy0r4Lvnr9U94hq8Px1ZuIlhjVlvWLBU80meryD MNtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJIpPv8H+7zpVCXzIh0lwER5c0D2Sfrw6tm90++aGUxjR/f6iUB dXj/D4Xi0+puxKO3lw9mLEReHEo4gTzi88HiG9kPV7UxOEI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5eqCYJ6AmPdBG38QwYf5fUuRZv1r7/RUeGJ+WwlL0Nz3KgxV6WhXFez0mIRfZzAD72OJ8L4omXh1+ncwUCpZ5I= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:3383:: with SMTP id z125-v6mr5528212wmz.56.1540562020653; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 06:53:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:53:01 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: MM3 on FreeBSD To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:53:43 -0000 Hola a todos! I have finally read bits of documents here and there and managed to install MM3 on a FreeBSD 11.2 server. This is for testing and getting to grasp the new monster. Later, I hope I could run my MLs on MM3. So, so far, this is what I have done - all successfully: pkg install python36 pkg install py36-sqlite3 [ln -s /usr/local/bin/python3.6 /usr/local/bin/python3] python3 -m ensurepip pip3 install mailman I have opted to use /opt/mailman3 as the directory for MM3. So I did: cd /opt mkdir mailman3 cd mailman3 mailman info [Here I got some errors, which Google led me to set some ENV variables] export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 mailman info The directory has been populated with some data. # Then from http://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/prodsetup.html pip3 install postorius pip3 install hyperkitty pip3 install mailman-hyperkitty pip3 install uwsgi pip install pymysql All those installed successfully. However, I am not sure where they installed into on my FreeBSD. What next now?? Edit the var/etc/mailman.cfg?? Then how to automatically launch the MM3 queue runner? Postorius? HyperKitty? etc? TIA -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223 "Oh, the cruft." 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Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE1F58007B for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D21710635 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:34:22 +0100 (BST) To: FreeBSD-Questions From: Arthur Chance Subject: Phantom zpools Message-ID: <5ac80d31-944d-0c16-1e25-5c1eb9e3885a@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:34:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:34:31 -0000 One of my machines shows phantom zpools when I type "zpool import". These zpools were on the machine once, but have long ceased to exist. "zpool destroy -f" doesn't work on them, does anybody have any suggestions what I can do to get rid of the traces? -- Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts pointedly. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Oct 26 22:57:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1F810CBF36 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward104j.mail.yandex.net (forward104j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:2::107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A3836ED3F for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback15g.mail.yandex.net (mxback15g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:94]) by forward104j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7903C5801DA for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 01:57:37 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (smtp4o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::28]) by mxback15g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id wdxGPQAgrG-vbBqA9Cj; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 01:57:37 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1540594657; bh=ezkMgOwV5JHiNELOCNoeVd6YzU2HDwQ5pG1I+a3iktI=; h=To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date; b=AqkZu1YRrkXTtYXtnegfmSBw3AvDNEt2HDmIx8Ps3ZBQme/y8nR0G8eDW5LgLOFmb 7+pgenDxFf0ZEEeIEMCd6FY8t9Dqd38F6uaKKr+quLO5C5kq776p2fpEs7vH3MdHc+ 6BMtljeni/U+NBIkI1rWeqitwgTBjT8IIeMRsNcs= Received: by smtp4o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id PC2heD1Wq7-va2Gw97h; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 01:57:36 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1540594656; bh=ezkMgOwV5JHiNELOCNoeVd6YzU2HDwQ5pG1I+a3iktI=; h=To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date; b=Ypq26P/9cQqZr9Q/wFlGHObAec+gj6kGIWW7mwJMC3hMb1TB7uvhiKKQNA9dgrZ8f x3yL8mpY9Y6OoqzCtVMVC51o2YIvbJu+i5MaS84Yioaan+GTVZmsMiAKmERdSE84vg k7+T2QI8RNxTY49oPYcROQ5Hxw3fhXyND2GcFIkY= Authentication-Results: smtp4o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com To: FreeBSD Questions From: Manish Jain Subject: Can a committer please have look at issue# 232326 Message-ID: <64a45884-8982-05f6-593d-e4bf41d48a99@yandex.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 04:25:03 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:57:41 -0000 Hi, I have a port mkdesktop, which was recently updated to version 2.0. I uploaded the shar for the update on 17 October, and so far nobody has taken ownership and acted on the request. Can a committer please take a look at : https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=232326 Thank you, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 27 20:51:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DA710D2D4A for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail1.protonmail.ch (mail1.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6A047A6B4 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:51:14 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: How does one become a triager? Message-ID: Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:51:34 -0000 SGVsbG8uCgpJIHNhdyBvbiBidWd6aWxsYSB0aGF0IHNvbWUgdXNlcnMgYXJlIEZyZWVCU0QgdHJp YWdlcnMuIElmIEkgdW5kZXJzdG9vZApjb3JyZWN0bHksIHRoaXMgbWVhbnMgdGhhdCB0aGV5IHRy eSB0byBrZWVwIHRoZSBidWdzIGRhdGFiYXNlIGNsZWFuIGFuZAplYXN5IHRvIHVzZSBhbmQgdGhl eSBlbnN1cmUgdGhhdCB0aGUgcmlnaHQgbGFiZWxzLCBrZXl3b3JkcywgdGFncyBldGMuIGFyZQpp biB0aGUgcmlnaHQgcGxhY2UuCgpIb3dldmVyLCBJIHdhcyB1bmFibGUgdG8gZmluZCBhbnl3aGVy ZSBob3cgZG9lcyBvbmUgYmVjb21lIGEKdHJpYWdlcjogZG9lcyB0aGlzIHdvcmsgbGlrZSBmb3Ig Y29tbWl0dGVycyBhcyBzb21lIHNvcnQgb2YgcmV3YXJkIG9yCmlzIGl0IG9uIHZvbHVudGVlciBi YXNpcz8KClRoYW5rIHlvdS4KCkxvcmVuem8gU2FsdmFkb3JlLgoKU2VudCB3aXRoIFtQcm90b25N YWlsXShodHRwczovL3Byb3Rvbm1haWwuY29tKSBTZWN1cmUgRW1haWwu From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 27 21:06:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0ABC10D3655 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rigoletto@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5872B7B155 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rigoletto@FreeBSD.org) Received: from privacychain.ch (unknown [179.35.122.93]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: rigoletto) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C271C9B01 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rigoletto@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 18:06:16 -0300 From: Alexandre =?utf-8?Q?C=2E_Guimar=C3=A3es?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How does one become a triager? Message-ID: <20181027210616.27bnrtit5bfusa2u@privacychain.ch> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pxi4x7chq4w4fl5z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:06:20 -0000 --pxi4x7chq4w4fl5z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 08:51:14PM +0000, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-que= stions wrote: > Hello. Hi. > I saw on bugzilla that some users are FreeBSD triagers. If I understood > correctly, this means that they try to keep the bugs database clean and > easy to use and they ensure that the right labels, keywords, tags etc. are > in the right place. >=20 > However, I was unable to find anywhere how does one become a > triager: does this work like for committers as some sort of reward or > is it on volunteer basis? I suppose you are talking about the Bugmeisters: https://www.freebsd.org/administration.html#t-bugmeister So, they are FreeBSD Developers with that task assigned to them. > Thank you. >=20 > Lorenzo Salvadore. >=20 > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Best Regards, Alexandre C. 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