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Date:      Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:35:28 +0200
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Kazuo Horikawa <horikawa@psinet.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: mdoc police and MAINTAINER (was Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/ffsinfo ffsinfo.8 src/sbin/init init.8 src/sbin/sysctl sysctl.8)
Message-ID:  <20001222113528.A6764@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <200012212324.eBLNOov00570@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>; from brian@Awfulhak.org on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:24:50PM %2B0000
References:  <grog@lemis.com> <200012212324.eBLNOov00570@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>

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On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 11:24:50PM +0000, Brian Somers wrote:
> > > Here, there's no MAINTAINER so Ruslan's question about why you
> > > backed out his change is valid.
> > 
> > I answered that question.  I keep a separate tree for Vinum (so
> > technically, I suppose it's a vendor branch or some such).  I make
> > changes to that tree, and occasionally I get out of sync.  In this
> > case, it happened to DES as well, but he didn't make as much noise.
> 
> ppp is in the same boat.  Ruslan has done the same amount of 
> good/evil to that (ppp's man page is now different in OpenBSD - and 
> NetBSD if they ever chose to import it)....  I looked at the patches 
> and decided that what Ruslan did was a benefit and therefore didn't 
> say anything - I'm pretty sure Ruslan did the same (we're now in a 
> position where we can argue that FreeBSD is right and {Net,Open}BSD 
> is wrong).
> 
> IMHO being able to say ``.Nm .'' is a good thing.  I don't think 
> anyone should chastise Ruslan for progression !
> 
This feature is now standard, and will be in Groff 1.17's mdocNG,
which should be released near the Christmas.  I am sure NetBSD and
OpenBSD will start using the mdocNG too, since it is really cool
compared with the current mdoc(7).

After we resolve one nasty issue left with mdocNG, I will post a
brief summary of forthcoming (in mdocNG) changes and benefits.

There is also a new mdoc.reference(7) manpage, which is much more
informative than current mdoc(7) and mdoc.samples(7).


Cheers,
-- 
Ruslan Ermilov		Oracle Developer/DBA,
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