From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 3 15:42:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00868 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00862 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27527; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199609032238.QAA27527@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Terry Lambert Cc: darrend@novell.com (Darren Davis), chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux 96 (my impressions) - Reply In-Reply-To: <199609032201.PAA05164@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199609032201.PAA05164@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have to take responsibility for the organization template copied > from the "FreeBSD + patchkit" days. You're taking too much credit for something you had no part in. FreeBSD came about because of the technical problems of the patchkit (which were great and many), but the non-technical organization you had nothing to do with, positive or negative. > The template resulted from the inherent requirement for a central > serialization authority for patches because the tools I built were > simply not up to arbitrating concurrent developement. That wasn't the problem, though it did lead to patchkit co-ordinator early-burnout after a few months. :) > This may, in fact, have > been a key contributor to the NetBSD/386BSD split -- I know that > there were at least two people who later became initial members of > the NetBSD core team who tried to "roll their own" patches in > patchkit format, only to have them formally rejected. Umm, no. A 'patchkit co-ordinator' was offered the position, and this person refused to answer email, calls, etc.. so a new co-ordinator was chosen. The 'replaced' PC rolled some patches which were taken offline of the sites, but that person never contributed to any of the BSD's since that point in any real way. He wasn't part of NetBSD, FreeBSD, or OpenBSD. The 'patchkit mentality' had *nothing* to do with the split of Net/FreeBSD. The primary reason was personalities, not the least of which was Bill Jolitz'. { Rest of the irrelevant description deleted } BTW - OpenBSD has a 'core' team, (not everyone has commit priviledges and someone has to decide who gets commit privs.). The folks who run the mirror site and Theo's ownership of the machine which 'owns' the code puts him in a position of leadership, both technically and 'politically'. Nate