From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 19:07:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD6516A412 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13813C45A for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0GJ7o1X009597 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:07:50 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.102] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0GJ7nU5024125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:07:50 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070116190159.GA99088@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45ABECF2.5060605@splittingimage.com.au> <20070116190159.GA99088@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8CA197D7-9F61-4E55-B226-9C33086F5CEA@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:07:47 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.16.105432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_SUBJ_9 0' Subject: Re: What have you done for me lately !!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:07:51 -0000 On Jan 16, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 08:06:58AM +1100, Joe Arcaro wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Maybe this is just a rant, >> >> But I'll vent anyway. >> >> I've been watching with some skepticism, the whole apple circus freak >> fanboy show ... >> >> I was just curious, does it not bother any of the BSD developers that >> Apple inc (TM) has based its entire business model on open source >> software, >> >> and yet seems to have given little if any thing back in return. >> >> I have on occasion looked at the apple web site, and never has apple >> even given credit to any form of BSD ! >> >> Is this all just acceptable, have I missed the whole point of open >> source (Give something back when you can) >> >> or have I not read the fine print. >> >> anyhow... >> >> Cheers to all the developers at Freebsd, I am an admirer of BSD >> and the >> open source community > > Yeah, you did miss the point. The BSD license does not require this, > and we BSD developers work on BSD software because we acknowledge and > even like that aspect of it: we are developing quality software that > can be used for any purposes with effectively no strings attached. > > Besides, apple has and does contribute code back to FreeBSD. > > Kris Regarding this, refer to the many threads in the past 3 months regarding this subject. -Garrett