From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 2 18:47:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFAA2D73DA for ; Sat, 2 May 2020 18:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.radel.com", Issuer "GoGetSSL RSA DV CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49Dylc1Kksz4W4r for ; Sat, 2 May 2020 18:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.19.2 (ClamAV engine v0.99.2) X-ExtFilter: Niversoft's DomainKeys Helper DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=i4UBvbjhx3Af8J5OcN4WPwu6wJy+5Ngah/q4avg8zFb5ONBTaJURZ4FWDNaI/kR9mr Mq40k+MJVCbCb2sWSBBc+Pw+3Rod0WD0G277FakpT6Cc1UicbYsJeXAgpc+1pe3AxLjo 4n/oBCx6eQjrItM2QcLaccWCJW300oOmWwo+D2dlIuWv1N0f3xW5UTfEC1HiSMU1bbMz abNVVJhgJfEGJ1T8qU7WwJQ0ESKFrcZereixG8EoYSZVYPa8ocdWmhaWA3HedRbZmCwJ VelH5zABjsU86RlOgMch0KUIZCgdsYUWy0CFRSFKuhIQNX4cvYVfL7eNBwae2J5buxpb jMoQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=radel.com; s=20170108.radel; t=1588445221; x=1589050021; q=dns/txt; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; bh=FOnHTKbSUkx NSmbDk/65WnH1VlWvtPHD7emsRCh4uRg=; b=wh/OVCUKv/QsSHTn+sgtH+GHLJN qTXagb1wmrYdblsNwNmwb903LIL0ca3VnR4y9OiPagHhnI8yk4nPlzP5ynomii2G Rel0C/xPhos3/BBwaftDJPoRILZjBTRbQuRenORaKY1UE/b4V6huj+ozwP7DNyuh Jf6KN6hEHE/T9IMZp8F7yHCPL7uVPW7jq/CTk8gB74/xXxn0A87pm1DlYfzXmERs MFsjF+I1V3LIoFzwGrJyqiWiiYj2lRXAJwxp3dfFAI8OqI/CrI9JTbPWlNtG3OVe 76CFOqSJk0q9bpiOxUoR2zI07LSBQPuLqOtMwZepuEcnLedyNjPciypWSaw== Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:98e0:3232:89c4:9d89] (account jon@radel.com HELO haralson.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 2136251; Sat, 02 May 2020 18:47:00 +0000 Subject: Re: Learning about FreeBSD To: Brandon helsley , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: From: Jon Radel Message-ID: <1eba816c-e1a7-6d9e-a7d8-bb02b91cea4d@radel.com> Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 14:47:00 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms090307070608090504060809" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Dylc1Kksz4W4r X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=radel.com header.s=20170108.radel header.b=wh/OVCUK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=radel.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jon@radel.com designates 70.184.242.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jon@radel.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[radel.com:s=20170108.radel]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:70.184.242.160/28]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[radel.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[radel.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[radel.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(0.41)[asn: 22773(2.11), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22773, ipnet:70.184.240.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 18:47:09 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090307070608090504060809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US On 5/2/20 14:18, Brandon helsley wrote: > Is the handbook the only resource for learning freebsd? I wanted to kno= w if there's such thing as mentors to teach certain stuff, like how I saw= in the articles section on their website about port mentor and mentee. > > For starting with FreeBSD, I would actually recommend Michael W. Lucas, Absolute FreeBSD: The Complete Guide to FreeBSD over the handbook.=C2=A0 = Make sure to get the 3rd edition if you're going to do this.=C2=A0 I personall= y use the handbook when I want to read up on the latest thinking regarding a specific topic, but tend to read other things when looking for the high-level view to get started.=C2=A0 Note that Michael also has a series of focused, shorter books on topics such as ZFS and jails that go into greater depth but are still works that I would consider to be accessible to the motivated sysadmin with at least a bit of Unix experience.=C2=A0 This is particularly true if you pa= y attention to the author's recommended sequence for reading some of the books. Fundamentally, however, my real recommendation would be to install FreeBSD, either on hardware that's free for experimentation or a VM or two or three....and make it do something amusing, useful, or interesting.=C2=A0 There's nothing like repeatedly breaking an install of= an OS, and then fixing it, to teach yourself. And if you have very specific questions about weirdness you can't find documented or figure out for yourself, you can always come back to this list and ask questions. --=20 --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms090307070608090504060809 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC C9owggXmMIIDzqADAgECAhBqm+E4O/8ra58B1dm4p1JWMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBDAUAMIGFMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQHEwdTYWxm b3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDErMCkGA1UEAxMiQ09NT0RPIFJTQSBD ZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw0xMzAxMTAwMDAwMDBaFw0yODAxMDkyMzU5NTla MIGXMQswCQYDVQQGEwJHQjEbMBkGA1UECBMSR3JlYXRlciBNYW5jaGVzdGVyMRAwDgYDVQQH EwdTYWxmb3JkMRowGAYDVQQKExFDT01PRE8gQ0EgTGltaXRlZDE9MDsGA1UEAxM0Q09NT0RP 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