From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 30 12:29:37 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6C616A41F for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:29:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3475243D48 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 12:29:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C42113C463 for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:29:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:29:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 32832 invoked by uid 1001); 30 May 2005 14:29:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 May 2005 14:29:35 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:29:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050530142324.X32599@maren.thelosingend.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Ulf Magnusson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Seagate HD not detected by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 12:29:38 -0000 * Ted Mittelstaedt [2005-05-29 10:28 -0700] > According to the UDMA/66/100/133 standard [...] : > So yes, there is something wrong with a primary master and a secondary > slave. Just because it works on a lot of motherboards, and just > because it worked in the past on old incorrectly manufactured IDE > cables, running in PIO mode, doesen't make it per-standard, and > definitely doesen't make it right electrically if using CS, as per the > standard. As I said already, motherboards take a lot of shortcuts and > do a lot of non-standard things. You are right, it's not a UDMA standard per se! And I was wrong to say that there was *nothing* wrong with that setup. However, it was not *entirely* wrong, either (allthough a peculiar setup). It's just that it's always worked for me, but it seems I was lucky. Btw, do you have any pointers to that standard? And also; could you try to fix your line lenght problem? Svein Halvor