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Date:      Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:21:19 +0000
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@theravensnest.org>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        toolchain@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removing default build of gcc
Message-ID:  <1B345827-76F0-49C7-8D54-82866938E0A1@theravensnest.org>
In-Reply-To: <20130125113122.GN2522@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <74D8E686-3679-46F2-8A08-4CF5DFC020CA@FreeBSD.org> <20130125113122.GN2522@kib.kiev.ua>

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On 25 Jan 2013, at 11:31, Konstantin Belousov wrote:

> To clarify: there is no plans to not ship any GPLed code for 10.x.

This is something that has been said on mailing lists, at BSDCan and at =
DevSummits in the past, without any objections being raised.  If this is =
no longer a goal, then that is very sad, because we have currently a =
window in which a lot of potential downstream users are looking for a =
GPL-free stack and are put off FreeBSD and towards proprietary solutions =
because we still require GPL'd code for a working base system.  If we =
put off this goal for another two years, we are likely to lose a lot of =
potential corporate contributors, who will invest in in-house and =
proprietary systems instead.

> Instead, there are still plans to ship working 10.x.

I don't believe that these are contradictory goals and would certainly =
not ever prefer a non-working system to a working one. =20

Indeed, in many cases the alternative is a non-working system.  For =
example, the debugger that we ship doesn't understand DWARF4 generated =
by any modern compiler (including gcc or clang).

David=



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