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> > > This is a pretty useless bug report.
> > >
> > > Please read the section in the handbook about kernel debugging and
> > > get us a useful traceback/crashdump as well as systat type info.
> > 
> > Yeah, and then what? Nobody seems to care either way... :-(
> 
> That's insulting to the people that are finding and fixing bugs.

Well, then  they must be doing  so silently, without even  the: "I think
that should  be fixed now, make  sure you have version  such-and-such of
such-and-such" and try again. I personally have submitted two crashdumps
to -current this year, and one to WPaul personally (regarding crashes in
the dc-driver) without A WORD OF RESPONSE . Aknowledging problems before
and a heads-up after  the fix is thought to be in,  is _essential_ to be
able to expect future reports.
 
> They do care and you ought to rethink your attitude towards the
> subject.

My attitude  was specifically  designed to further  stir this  topic up,
and, may be, cause some changes in some minds.

	-mi

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