Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: spork <spork@super-g.com> To: "Joel N. Weber II" <devnull@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Cc: ahd@kew.com, andrew@python.shoal.net.au, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HOTMAIL.COM, JUNO.COM, etc.... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970730093838.6993A-100000@super-g.inch.com> In-Reply-To: <199707300753.DAA15637@mescaline.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
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The thing that confuses me about the ton of spam I get from at&t, earthlink, etc. is the fact that with all the resources these people have, they cannot hack sendmail in such a way that it refuses to accept more than "x" number of messages in "x" number of minutes from one dialup node... As I recall, there is a utility available from news that looks for excessive posts. It seems that with mail one could even see from the maillog when someone has launched a spam. It seems something like swatch could look for an event like that and notify someone with the ability to nuke the account... Who's on the crack? Me or them? Charles On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Joel N. Weber II wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:15:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: Drew Derbyshire <ahd@kew.com> > > However, the cheaper it is is define a user id on a site, the more > likely it is is that a spammer will use it. Hotmail and Juno, being > free, makes them easy targets. > > Are you sure juno is free? I thought you paid like $5 a month. > > Most of the SPAM I've seen recently has been from either large > sites (usally forged) or totally bogus names -- Earthlink, CIS, > AOL, ATT, and Hotmail seem popular for return addresses this month. > This could be because it is hard to ban such legitmate large sites > -- I lose two family family members if I ban ATT, one if I ban > Hotmail, and one if I ban Prodigy. (And this doesn't count friends, > FreeBSD hackers, etc.) > > I actually accept mail only from such large sites when the mail > comes from a relay within the domain, and I also don't let their > relays send me mail from third party sites. Both rules cut down > on the SPAM, since mismatches indicate forged mail. (These rules > required a sendmail source hack ... *sigh*) > > So what happens if I set my address to devnull@gnu.ai.mit.edu, but > I send the message from some random dialup of some random ISP in Hawaii? > > Doesn't that mean my mail will get lost? >
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