From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 0:18:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF8937B9A6 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 667839EE01; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA229B001; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:17:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Doug White Cc: Mikhail Teterin , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Doug White wrote: > > => Your boot disk is now *required* (or will be very very soon) to have > > => a proper slice table in -CURRENT; dedicated disks are deprecated in > > => order to get a smarter boot0. > > > > Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some weenies, > > or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? Why am I to > > waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other OSes", if > > there will never be any other OSes? > > So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) This means, what? All dangerously dedicated systems will have to be reinstalled or somesuch? If so, that's quite a mess. If it keeps working as is, but only suggests the new way is better... that's livable. My BIOSes (6 systems here at home, all RELENG_4) work just fine with dangerously dedicated... -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 0:23:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pacex.net (dns1.pacex.net [209.189.111.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB55937B986 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@pacex.net) Received: (qmail 10352 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Jul 2000 07:23:34 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:23:34 -0700 From: net admin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_3 buildworld woes! Message-ID: <20000723002333.A4433@almazs.pacex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi; I am upgrading a 3.4-RC to -STABLE and did cvsup to day Jul. 22 at about 18:00hrs and all the way to the end makebuildworld fails on /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124 undelclared identifier... parse error "}" Error log file is attached. day #3 trying to upgrade this system :(, Any help appreciated. Thanks Dan --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="buildwrld.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tm= p/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/main2.c=0D cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tm= p/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/hash.c=0D cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tm= p/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/read.c=0D cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tm= p/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1/mem.c=0D cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tm= p/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/mem2.c=0D cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/../lint1 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tm= p/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c=0D /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c: In function `inittyp':=0D /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124: `hDOUBLEna' undeclared (first use t= his function)=0D /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124: (Each undeclared identifier is repo= rted only once=0D /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124: for each function it appears in.)=0D /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124: parse error before `}'=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop.=0D almazs# ^[[I=08=08 =08=08=07=0D [I: Command not found.=0D almazs# exit=0D almazs# exit=0D Script done on Sun Jul 23 00:09:39 2000 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 4: 0: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from laguna.tiscalinet.it (laguna.tiscalinet.it [195.130.224.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71AE37B70C for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from f.casadei@tin.it) Received: from an1-181.dialup.tiscalinet.it (62.11.102.181) by laguna.tiscalinet.it; 23 Jul 2000 12:59:30 +0200 Received: (qmail 945 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Jul 2000 10:58:44 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:58:43 +0200 From: Francesco Casadei To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms 1.2.2 doesn'n work anymore with FreeBSD 4.1-RC Message-ID: <20000723125843.A937@casimirhost.kasby> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200007151057.DAA02548@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20000720213529.A19436@parish> <3977F3C9.9EA397AF@cybercable.fr> <20000721193726.A241@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000721193726.A241@parish>; from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org on Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 08:55:05AM +0200, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > I realized that the problem occured only when esd was running. After > > killing esd, xmms works fine ! > > > > Glad you got it working, but I don't (knowingly) run esd. Hmm... Try to compile xmms with: make -DWITHOUT_ESD -DWITHOUT_MIKMOD install This will disable esound and mikmod modules. For me it worked. Francesco Casadei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 4:26:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 169D437B7B4 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 6597 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 2000 11:26:54 -0000 Received: from tk212017108240.univie.teleweb.at (HELO gmx.net) (212.17.108.240) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 2000 11:26:54 -0000 Message-ID: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:23:46 +0200 From: Andreas Ntaflos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: realplayer and freebsd? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? thanks regards Andreas Ntaflos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 4:43:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0802B37B881 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenrion@cybercable.fr) Received: (qmail 3215831 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2000 11:43:26 -0000 Received: from r121m199.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO cybercable.fr) ([195.132.121.199]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jul 2000 11:43:26 -0000 Message-ID: <397ADB16.30E18D44@cybercable.fr> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:31 +0200 From: Maxime Henrion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francesco Casadei , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xmms 1.2.2 doesn'n work anymore with FreeBSD 4.1-RC References: <200007151057.DAA02548@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20000720213529.A19436@parish> <3977F3C9.9EA397AF@cybercable.fr> <20000721193726.A241@parish> <20000723125843.A937@casimirhost.kasby> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's I already done ! It works for me too :) Francesco Casadei wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 07:37:26PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 08:55:05AM +0200, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > I realized that the problem occured only when esd was running. After > > > killing esd, xmms works fine ! > > > > > > > Glad you got it working, but I don't (knowingly) run esd. Hmm... > > Try to compile xmms with: > > make -DWITHOUT_ESD -DWITHOUT_MIKMOD install > > This will disable esound and mikmod modules. For me it worked. > > Francesco Casadei > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 5:52: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx.nkm.lt (mx.nkm.lt [193.219.211.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B68B437BBDD for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from midom@dammit.lt) Received: (qmail 9276 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2000 12:51:49 -0000 Received: from space.dammit.lt (midom@193.219.251.153) by mx.nkm.lt with SMTP; 23 Jul 2000 12:51:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:52:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Domas Mituzas To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: broken -stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'ed whole src, and tried to build the world. here it goes: cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include -D_LOCK_DEBUG -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DINET6 -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/opt/src/i386/usr/include -c /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c -o ether_addr.o /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_line': /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:68: argument `l' doesn't match prototype /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:92: prototype declaration /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_aton': /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:88: argument `a' doesn't match prototype /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:90: prototype declaration /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_ntoa': /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:114: argument `n' doesn't match prototype /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:93: prototype declaration /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_ntohost': /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:133: argument `e' doesn't match prototype /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:94: prototype declaration /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:154: warning: passing arg 1 of `ether_ntoa' discards qualifiers from pointer target type /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_hostton': /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:185: argument `hostname' doesn't match prototype /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:91: prototype declaration Stop in /opt/src/lib/libc_r. *** Error code 1 Stop in /opt/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /opt/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /opt/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /opt/src. With respect, Domas Mituzas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 6: 2:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF5F37BBB3 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.92]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000723130207.UDUH16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:02:07 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00845; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:02:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:02:07 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000723140206.B236@parish> References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net>; from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ HTH > thanks > > regards > Andreas Ntaflos > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 6:29:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9251737BBB3 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk) Received: from gotham.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk ([128.243.40.48] helo=unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13GLoG-0006N4-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:28:48 +0100 Received: from granby ([128.243.40.43] helo=granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) by unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #2) id 13GLoT-0006nK-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:29:01 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:28:53 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch X-Sender: psyrawt@granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: pcm0 sblive and dodgy irq: 100000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup and built world on friday, after noticing I'd forgotten to add sound support I recompiled today with device pcm added to my kernel config and am no recieing kernel messages saying: pcm0: dodgy irq: 1000000 anyone got any clues? machien is a PII-400 with 256meg ram tnt2/sblive, worked fine with device pcm presivously, jsut started recently. Cheers Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 6:58:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541F37B5B8; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13GLrd-000Phj-00; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:32:17 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13GLrd-0005Nw-00; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:32:17 +0100 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:32:17 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: "Thomas R. Stromberg" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <39789037.C7B6B5B7@rtci.com> <397A6352.7D2C1B7E@cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <397A6352.7D2C1B7E@cup.hp.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > "Thomas R. Stromberg" wrote: >> >> Does someone plan on upgrading the StarOffice port to 5.2 before the >> 4.1-RELEASE? I think with all of the hype surrounding SO52 it might be a >> good idea to put it in ports, even if it installs pretty cleanly without >> it. > > The ports collection is already labeled, IIRC. The tag can be moved if a change is considered important enough, it appears. I've see this a few times in my cvsup logs: Edit ports/mail/exim/Makefile,v Delete tag RELEASE_4_1_0 -> 1.51 Add tag RELEASE_4_1_0 -> 1.52 Add delta 1.52 2000.07.21.18.09.48 asami etc. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 7:12: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06B37B5AE for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY500729M3YQ3@smtp.fnal.gov> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:11:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27663 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:11:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:11:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-reply-to: X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Below are a set of patches to only reset USA_RESIDENT... > ...otherwise leaves it alone... Ok, I just realized this isn't good enough. What it should do in the case where we haven't asked the question yet is create /etc/make.conf with USA_RESIDENT=NO if it does not exist, add USA_RESIDENT=NO to /etc/make.conf if it exists but has no USA_RESIDENT line at all, and do nothing ONLY in the case USA_RESIDENT=YES is already set... (maybe ask the question "are you really..." in that case.) New patches will follow... - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 7:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [194.77.233.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AB537BA53 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA94743; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:44:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-Id: <200007231444.QAA94743@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007221638.MAA33488@aldan.algebra.com> from Mikhail Teterin at "Jul 22, 2000 12:37:30 pm" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:44:56 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com (John Baldwin), stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all! Mikhail Teterin wrote: > John Baldwin once stated: > > ="No, you shouldn't." Some SCSI controllers are _known_ to go haywire > =with a dangerously dedicated disk since it uses a completely bogus > =geometry. > > Then those need to be explicitly listed and, better yet, identified at > install time... This is, however, a one shot deal, but you'll be wasting > those 5Mb forever. Personally I don't mind 5 MB wasted space - our production machines have one GB of swap _just_in_case_ some Godzilla email from hell hits them or some kiddy tries to DOS our Apache or whatever ... But ... I explicitly installed _all_ production machines "dangerously dedicated" _to_get_around_ geometry problems. So I could swap SCSI controllers of different brands with different translations. So I just wouldn't need to care if the disk was > 1GB or not. Try what happens if you install a "proper" partition table with an Adaptec controller and swap it for an NCR one - boom! Try the same with a dedicated disk ... Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. I definitely would mind _reinstalling_ > 20 servers to upgrade to 5.x eventually. So please leave it as a "compatibility mode" or whatever, but don't dump support for dedicated disks. I'm really puzzled by this thread, because after years of running FreeBSD I've come to the opinion that "dedicated" is how disks should be partitioned under all circumstances ... I mean, where's the partition table on my Sparc systems running Solaris? Who would care installing MS OSs additionally to FreeBSD on a server providing 24x7 service? Regards, Patrick -- --- WEB ISS GmbH - Scheffelstr. 17a - 76135 Karlsruhe - 0721/9109-0 --- ------ Patrick M. Hausen - Technical Director - hausen@punkt.de ------- "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 9:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout2.silyn-tek.de (mout2.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CEE37B9EA; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from [192.168.32.33] (helo=mx1.silyn-tek.de) by mout2.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13GONn-0001go-00; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:13:39 +0200 Received: from p3e9d38dd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.157.56.221] helo=neutron.cichlids.com) by mx1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13GONm-0008Hf-00; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:13:38 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BADEAB91; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ECB1614BAF; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:13:19 +0200 To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Marcel Moolenaar , "Thomas R. Stromberg" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20000723181319.A9167@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ben Smithurst , Marcel Moolenaar , "Thomas R. Stromberg" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <39789037.C7B6B5B7@rtci.com> <397A6352.7D2C1B7E@cup.hp.com> <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 02:32:17PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Ben Smithurst (ben@FreeBSD.ORG): > The tag can be moved if a change is considered important enough, it > appears. I've see this a few times in my cvsup logs: Only for security issues. exim, for example, had a serious bug, and the package was removed from the CDs. Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 9:48:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D9A37BB6F; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (postfix@pdx10-2-92.transport.com [209.222.174.92]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28862; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 672F13192; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:48:28 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Mark Ovens Cc: Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.ORG References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.5i In-Reply-To: <20000723140206.B236@parish>; from marko@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 02:02:07PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer :-) - jim -- /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 9:50:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (veldy-host201.dsl.visi.com [208.42.48.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E696837BC92 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 348438C1C for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:51:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004c01bff4c6$1786dec0$0100a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Subject: 4.1-RC panic when loading dnetc (distributed.net client) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:50:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using the 4.63 dnetc native FreeBSD version of the distributed.net client. Here is what happens: --- Local package initialization: dnetc Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xe0aedffc fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01871cf stack pointer = 0x10:0xc8a13dcc frame pointer = 0x10:0xc8a13ddc code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor flags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 281(dnetc) interrupt mask = none panic: page fault --- This machine is a rebuilt world (07212000) with standard kernel optimizations COPTFLAGS = -O -pipe and CFLAGS = -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro. I am having a hard time getting into my system to disable dnetc and see if I can get more details. The CD ROM I burned with a stable from about two weeks back ignores my key entry to go to a commad prompt so that I can load the kernel off of the CD and then boot into the OS (manually). Enter is all that works and it sends me to kernel config and then sysinstall. I added "boot" to /boot/loader.rc, so I don't get a command prompt option at all when I boot my machine normally. I just thought I should report this bug. Thanks, Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 9:53:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60E8737BD8E for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:53:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 18954 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Jul 2000 16:53:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2000 16:53:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:53:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Jim Mock Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Jim Mock wrote: : There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer : :-) Doh! I swear that wasn't there when I installed it the hard way by RPM and a ton of symlinks :P : - jim : : -- : /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ : /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5eyLydMMtMcA1U5ARAnTyAJ9avFRqDJMH1CMKN4/i9Yjw6SvoOACfYzaV /x6mS6VOQYuDTifBnU7QIkg= =WQkq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 9:56:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3EA37BBD2; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 09:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 13964272; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:56:26 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Jim Mock , Mark Ovens Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:56:25 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.50] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072311562500.00250@dave> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Jim Mock wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > > :-) > > - jim I installed the beta2 version and it works great in standalone. But when I start up Netscape, I get errors about bad magic in the plug-in. Apparently it needs some tweaking. On the other hand, standalone is OK, too. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 10:38: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E22737BCA0 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:38:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY50079IVNCTH@smtp.fnal.gov> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:38:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28020; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:37:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:37:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: 4.1-RC panic when loading dnetc (distributed.net client) In-reply-to: <004c01bff4c6$1786dec0$0100a8c0@cascade> X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > I am using the 4.63 dnetc native FreeBSD version of the distributed.net > client. Here is what happens: > ... > panic: page fault More details are needed when you can... I am running the same client (installed from ports) with no problem on 4.1-RC 7/23/2000 and can't duplicate the problem. Cut from dmesg: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor (400.91-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x591 Stepping = 1 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127238144 (124256K bytes) Cut from dnetc logfile: dnetc v2.8010-463-CTR-00071200 for FreeBSD (FreeBSD 4.1-RC). Cut from dnetc.ini: [display] detached=yes progress-indicator=off [logging] log-file-limit=2MB log-file=/tmp/dnetc.log log-file-type=fifo - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 10:50:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E8637B624; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.88.234]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000723184934.QJZL3760.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:49:34 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01295; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:50:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:50:26 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Jim Mock Cc: Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000723185025.C236@parish> References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com>; from jim@freebsd.org on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > :-) > Good. Last time I looked the port was still RP 5. > - jim > > -- > /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ > /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 11:46:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000BB37B601 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:46:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA46031 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200007231846.LAA46031@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: GENERIC needs some clean up.... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just build a GENERIC kernel on 4.1-RC and noted the following compile warnings that really should be cleaned up: (Especially the ones about splx/splbio those just give me the utmost feeling of ``stable'' NOT!!) cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/amr/amr.c ../../dev/amr/amr.c: In function `amr_free': ../../dev/amr/amr.c:171: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/amr/amr.c: In function `amr_periodic': ../../dev/amr/amr.c:696: warning: unused variable `i' ../../dev/amr/amr.c:696: warning: unused variable `s' ../../dev/amr/amr.c: In function `amr_start': ../../dev/amr/amr.c:1234: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/amr/amr.c: In function `amr_quartz_get_work': ../../dev/amr/amr.c:1534: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/amr/amr.c: In function `amr_std_get_work': ../../dev/amr/amr.c:1565: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/amr/amr.c: At top level: ../../dev/amr/amr.c:1031: warning: `amr_wait_command' defined but not used stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c: In function `dpt_get_conf': ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c:496: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c: In function `dpt_detect_cache': ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c:603: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c: In function `dpt_init': ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c:1294: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `ieget': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1177: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1266: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1266: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1283: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1295: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `ie_readframe': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1338: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `iestart': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1437: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1451: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `check_ie_present': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1505: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1514: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1517: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1542: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `command_and_wait': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1799: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1815: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `setup_rfa': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1900: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1924: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `mc_setup': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1975: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:1975: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c: In function `ieinit': ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:2039: warning: passing arg 1 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:2039: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:2088: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../dev/ie/if_ie.c:2089: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function discards qualifiers from pointer target type stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c: In function `ppi_attach': ../../dev/ppbus/ppi.c:172: warning: unused variable `ppi' stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/xe/if_xe.c ../../dev/xe/if_xe.c:1776: warning: `xe_compute_crc' defined but not used ../../dev/xe/if_xe.c:1811: warning: `xe_compute_hashbit' defined but not used cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../kern/init_sysent.c ../../kern/init_sysent.c:24: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../kern/kern_event.c ../../kern/kern_event.c: In function `kevent': ../../kern/kern_event.c:388: warning: passing arg 4 of `kqueue_scan' discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../kern/sys_generic.c ../../kern/sys_generic.c: In function `dofilewrite': ../../kern/sys_generic.c:356: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../kern/vfs_aio.c ../../kern/vfs_aio.c: In function `aio_process': ../../kern/vfs_aio.c:575: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../kern/vfs_aio.c: In function `aio_qphysio': ../../kern/vfs_aio.c:1014: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../kern/vfs_aio.c: At top level: ../../kern/vfs_aio.c:1426: warning: `aio_aqueue' defined but not used cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../net/if_gif.c ../../net/if_gif.c: In function `gif_encapcheck': ../../net/if_gif.c:203: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../net/if_gif.c: In function `gif_ioctl': ../../net/if_gif.c:409: warning: `dst' might be used uninitialized in this function ../../net/if_gif.c:409: warning: `src' might be used uninitialized in this function cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet/in_gif.c ../../netinet/in_gif.c: In function `gif_encapcheck4': ../../netinet/in_gif.c:334: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet/in_proto.c ../../netinet/in_proto.c:163: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type ../../netinet/in_proto.c:170: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type ../../netinet/in_proto.c:212: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type ../../netinet/in_proto.c:212: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet/ip_input.c ../../netinet/ip_input.c: In function `ip_input': ../../netinet/ip_input.c:660: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet/tcp_subr.c ../../netinet/tcp_subr.c: In function `tcp6_ctlinput': ../../netinet/tcp_subr.c:980: warning: `off' might be used uninitialized in this function cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet6/in6_gif.c ../../netinet6/in6_gif.c: In function `gif_encapcheck6': ../../netinet6/in6_gif.c:320: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet6/in6_ifattach.c ../../netinet6/in6_ifattach.c: In function `nigroup': ../../netinet6/in6_ifattach.c:621: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet6/in6_pcb.c ../../netinet6/in6_pcb.c: In function `in6_pcbladdr': ../../netinet6/in6_pcb.c:273: warning: unused variable `pi' cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet6/udp6_output.c ../../netinet6/udp6_output.c: In function `udp6_output': ../../netinet6/udp6_output.c:222: warning: address of register variable `m' requested cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../pci/amd.c ../../pci/amd.c:880: warning: `amd_timeout' defined but not used ../../pci/amd.c:838: warning: `amd_reset' defined but not used cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../pci/if_fxp.c ../../pci/if_fxp.c: In function `fxp_init': ../../pci/if_fxp.c:1448: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/if_fxp.c:1505: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/if_fxp.c: In function `fxp_mc_setup': ../../pci/if_fxp.c:2022: warning: passing arg 2 of `bcopy' discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../pci/ncr.c ../../pci/ncr.c: In function `ncr_log_hard_error': ../../pci/ncr.c:5331: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c: In function `ncr_exception': ../../pci/ncr.c:5468: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c: In function `ncr_int_ma': ../../pci/ncr.c:5771: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5775: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5799: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5806: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5814: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5819: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5829: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:5833: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c: In function `ncr_regtest': ../../pci/ncr.c:6801: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type ../../pci/ncr.c:6802: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../i386/i386/mem.c In file included from ../../i386/i386/mem.c:49: ../../sys/buf.h: In function `BUF_LOCK': ../../sys/buf.h:269: warning: implicit declaration of function `splbio' ../../sys/buf.h:276: warning: implicit declaration of function `splx' In file included from ../../i386/i386/mem.c:59: ../../sys/systm.h: At top level: ../../sys/systm.h:229: warning: type mismatch with previous implicit declaration ../../sys/buf.h:344: warning: previous implicit declaration of `splbio' ../../sys/systm.h:229: warning: `splbio' was previously implicitly declared to return `int' ../../sys/systm.h:245: warning: type mismatch with previous implicit declaration ../../sys/buf.h:346: warning: previous implicit declaration of `splx' ../../sys/systm.h:245: warning: `splx' was previously implicitly declared to return `int' -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 11:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E65C37B6C7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolpert@methodsystems.com) Received: (qmail 81252 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2000 18:57:26 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-stable@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 81237 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 2000 18:57:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osti.methodsystems.com) (63.227.49.195) by dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 2000 18:57:26 -0000 Content-Length: 1813 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000723040932.11157.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:57:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Edward Wolpert To: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: nlist - REHASH Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- FYI- I did a fresh build today (Sunday, July 23) using a similar technique as you. (Except I did a 'make world' before rebuilding the kernel) Top works for me. On 23-Jul-00 Richard Stanaford wrote: > --- Tom wrote: >> On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Richard Stanaford wrote: > >> The usual problem is that you install a new kernel, but not the rest of >> the world. If that is indead what you've done, fix that first before >> worrying about anythig else. > > I did say this happened after going STABLE, which implies that I did rebuild > the world. For sake of clarity, the procedure I followed was.. > > cvsup > cd /usr/src > make cleandir > make buildworld > hacked /sys/i386/conf/NEBULA from GENERIC > make buildkernel KERNEL=NEBULA > make installkernel KERNEL=NEBULA > cd / > chflags noschg kernel > chflags noschg NEBULA > mv kernel kernel.orig > mv NEBULA kernel > chflags schg kernel > reboot to single user > make installworld > mergemaster > cd /dev > sh MAKEDEV all > reboot multuser > top: nlist failed > > All of this completed yesterday with no difficulty. > > Now... is it preferred to apply the patches or mess with the loader? If the > loader is the problem, what needs to be done? Virtually, | Open/Web Systems Architect Edward Wolpert | 4eb8 4e75 | "Java. It's not just for ___________________________________________/ breakfast anymore. " -anon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBOXtAFa2tQW/xJRRFAQEnlQL/UWjY0UK9VXQthzcI7uyQKvkFSygWJD7L vAgA3qxAMpR2Il7rVWhvW1rAB9uxntb791RzvjKt/UKsIOMBJaf1ryRCMlIzTYD2 rFq4dP3CpSjH5FsIUlypm7IJ+nijN9HR =wCwd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12: 4:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3105.mail.yahoo.com (web3105.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4E4837B5D7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000723190444.333.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.200.196] by web3105.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:04:44 PDT Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: nlist - REHASH To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Edward Wolpert wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > FYI- > > I did a fresh build today (Sunday, July 23) using a similar technique > as you. (Except I did a 'make world' before rebuilding the kernel) Top > works for me. > > cvsup > > cd /usr/src > > make cleandir > > make buildworld > > hacked /sys/i386/conf/NEBULA from GENERIC > > make buildkernel KERNEL=NEBULA > > make installkernel KERNEL=NEBULA > > cd / > > chflags noschg kernel > > chflags noschg NEBULA > > mv kernel kernel.orig > > mv NEBULA kernel > > chflags schg kernel > > reboot to single user > > make installworld > > mergemaster > > cd /dev > > sh MAKEDEV all > > reboot multuser > > top: nlist failed Very well, Regarding the procedure I used above, this is the same procedure that many of you screamed about being the now PROPER WAY to build after the Binutil debacle. What did I miss that resulted in 'top' being broken? Will a second CVSup and buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld fix this? I think not because so far I have not heard what caused this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:12:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68E6137B5D7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 23 Jul 2000 20:12:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:12:33 +0100 From: David Malone To: Richard Stanaford Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist - REHASH Message-ID: <20000723201233.A34031@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20000723190444.333.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <20000723190444.333.qmail@web3105.mail.yahoo.com>; from rsstan@yahoo.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:04:44PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > What did I miss that resulted in 'top' being broken? Will a second CVSup and > buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld fix this? I think not > because so far I have not heard what caused this. I was going to write an FAQ entry on this, once I'd figured out what exactly was goning on. If I were you I'd try replacing my bootblocks: disklabel -B yyyy where yyyy is the disk you boot off, probably something like ad0. As I understand it, static symbols within the kernel are not available unless you boot using a new loader. If you have old boot blocks you may not be using the loader at all. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:13:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA2337B58F for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03739; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:12:46 -0700 Message-ID: <397B4388.9DA00502@urx.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:12:08 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Domas Mituzas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken -stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Domas Mituzas wrote: > > I just cvsup'ed whole src, and tried to build the world. here it goes: I did a cvsup of RELENG_4 after I read this and nothing in libc_r had changed from Friday, which is the date of my kernel. I did a buildworld and it was successful in a little over 3800 seconds. What did you cvsup, and how did you do the buildworld. All I have in my make.conf that affects a buildworld is a -O and -pipe. I followed the example in /usr/src/UPDATING and use the sequence buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, and installworld. Kent > > cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include -D_LOCK_DEBUG -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DINET6 -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/opt/src/i386/usr/include -c /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c -o ether_addr.o > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_line': > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:68: argument `l' doesn't match prototype > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:92: prototype declaration > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_aton': > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:88: argument `a' doesn't match prototype > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:90: prototype declaration > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_ntoa': > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:114: argument `n' doesn't match prototype > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:93: prototype declaration > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_ntohost': > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:133: argument `e' doesn't match prototype > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:94: prototype declaration > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:154: warning: passing arg 1 of `ether_ntoa' discards qualifiers from pointer target type > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c: In function `ether_hostton': > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/net/ether_addr.c:185: argument `hostname' doesn't match prototype > /opt/src/lib/libc_r/../../include/net/ethernet.h:91: prototype declaration > Stop in /opt/src/lib/libc_r. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /opt/src/lib. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /opt/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /opt/src. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /opt/src. > > With respect, > Domas Mituzas > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:18:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web3104.mail.yahoo.com (web3104.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.202.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D297437B635 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsstan@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000723191832.21768.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.141.200.100] by web3104.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:18:32 PDT Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Stanaford Subject: Re: nlist - REHASH To: David Malone Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- David Malone wrote: > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > > What did I miss that resulted in 'top' being broken? Will a second CVSup > and > > buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld fix this? I think not > > because so far I have not heard what caused this. > > I was going to write an FAQ entry on this, once I'd figured out what > exactly was goning on. If I were you I'd try replacing my bootblocks: > > disklabel -B yyyy > > where yyyy is the disk you boot off, probably something like ad0. > As I understand it, static symbols within the kernel are not > available unless you boot using a new loader. If you have old > boot blocks you may not be using the loader at all. > > David. I went to -STABLE from a clean install of 4.0-RELEASE. Is updating the boot blocks part of Standard Procedure after a buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld? I don't remember reading anything about it in UPDATING if it is... -Richard __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:20:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738C437BB69; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA85892; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:20:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ben Smithurst Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20000723122006.A85867@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <39789037.C7B6B5B7@rtci.com> <397A6352.7D2C1B7E@cup.hp.com> <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 02:32:17PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 02:32:17PM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > >> Does someone plan on upgrading the StarOffice port to 5.2 before the > >> 4.1-RELEASE? I think with all of the hype surrounding SO52 it might be a > >> good idea to put it in ports, even if it installs pretty cleanly without > >> it. StarOffice is a b*&%@ to do a port for. I think finding someone willing to spend the time on it is the issue right now. -- -- David (who served his time working on the StarOffice 4.1 port) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:35: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spanky.thario.com (spanky.thario.com [63.227.22.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC3937B58F for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thario.com) Received: from thario.com (IDENT:jim@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by spanky.thario.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19107 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:35:03 -0600 Message-ID: <397B48E7.248E46C8@thario.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:35:03 -0600 From: Jim Thario X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:36: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aldan.algebra.com (bronx-ip-3-115.dynamic.ziplink.net [205.208.98.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C4737B56D for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:35:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by aldan.algebra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00475; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:33:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: from Doug White at "Jul 22, 2000 09:47:23 pm" To: Doug White Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes? = =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky... =It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) Althouh, I'm delighted to see my opinion matter so much :), I don't see the benefit. Making the loader smarter? To do what? To play some silly animations, while loading kernel? No thanks... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:37:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9570B37B56D for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA60873; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:37:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007231937.VAA60873@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to get libdescrypt X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8lbeqq$lu0$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Replying to myself... > What exactly is required (nowadays) to get libdescrypt > cvsupped, compiled and installed? > [...] I really have no clue what went wrong before. I did the same procedure again and got a happy libdescrypt. I'm sorry for the confusion. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 12:47:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB71537B637 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 13970270; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:47:30 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Mikhail Teterin , Doug White Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:42:58 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072314472900.27722@dave> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Doug White once stated: > > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? > => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other > => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes? > = > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky... > > =It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) > > Althouh, I'm delighted to see my opinion matter so much :), I don't see > the benefit. Making the loader smarter? To do what? To play some silly > animations, while loading kernel? No thanks... > > -mi I have to agree with Mikhail. On a dedicated server, there is no need to concern ourselves with future OS additions to the HD. And I haven't had any problems with BIOS's as old as IBM's from 1995, although I suspect that some of Compaq's BIOS's may give rise to problems. My one Compaq box gives a warning about running a configuration utility to install Unix, but I can't find it on their web site. Leave the option as is; it ain't broken, don't fix it. dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13: 6:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aldan.algebra.com (bronx-ip-1-232.dynamic.ziplink.net [205.208.96.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20AA37B7DC; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by aldan.algebra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00657; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:04:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200007232004.QAA00657@aldan.algebra.com> Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> from Jim Mock at "Jul 23, 2000 09:48:28 am" To: jim@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vns@delta.odessa.ua X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file => rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin => doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me => that installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as => standalone *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. => => You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ =There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer =:-) BTW, the port is rather raw -- it leaves the obvious task of putting two binaries, mime types and mail caps files into ${PREFIX}/lib/netscape-linux/ to the user, while following the RealPlayer's braindamage of encouraging the user to store everything under his/her own ~/.netscape. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13:30:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E44F437BCC8 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 10580 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jul 2000 20:30:30 -0000 Received: from tk212017108240.univie.teleweb.at (HELO gmx.net) (212.17.108.240) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 2000 20:30:30 -0000 Message-ID: <397B5523.490C9028@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:27:16 +0200 From: Andreas Ntaflos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en, el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? References: <200007232004.QAA00657@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thanks to all of you who answered my question, it seems to be a little difficult and weird, rvplay5.0 for freebsd, rp7.0 bin for linux, plus rpm installation, kinda difficult, isnt it? thanks regards Andreas Ntaflos Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Jim Mock once stated: > > [Charset utf-8 unsupported, skipping...] > > [Mmmm, that e-mail did not contain any UTF, did it??] > > =On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > => RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > => rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > => doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me > => that installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as > => standalone *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > => > => You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > =There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > =:-) > > BTW, the port is rather raw -- it leaves the obvious task of > putting two binaries, mime types and mail caps files into > ${PREFIX}/lib/netscape-linux/ to the user, while following the > RealPlayer's braindamage of encouraging the user to store everything > under his/her own ~/.netscape. > > -mi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13:31: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDBC37BCC8 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23028; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007232030.NAA23028@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007231444.QAA94743@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> from "Patrick M. Hausen" at "Jul 23, 2000 04:44:56 pm" To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hello all! > > Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > John Baldwin once stated: > > > > ="No, you shouldn't." Some SCSI controllers are _known_ to go haywire > > =with a dangerously dedicated disk since it uses a completely bogus > > =geometry. > > > > Then those need to be explicitly listed and, better yet, identified at > > install time... This is, however, a one shot deal, but you'll be wasting > > those 5Mb forever. > > Personally I don't mind 5 MB wasted space - our production machines > have one GB of swap _just_in_case_ some Godzilla email from hell > hits them or some kiddy tries to DOS our Apache or whatever ... > > But ... Ok, _before_ everyone gets _really_ tweaked and goes off blowing this way up and imagining that things have been said which have _not_ been said: MBR's are not a MS-DOS thing. They are a _PC_ thing. In fact, the IA64 uses the smae MBR structure as well. It is _not_ a Sparc thing, however, which is why Solaris on a Sparc doesn't have it. This is an architecture issue, _not_ an OS issue. *sigh* The new boot0 won't work with dedicated disks. But the old one didn't either. If you will never reformat your disk again, this is not a problem. Of course, since you hose the MBR, some OS's won't be able to figure out what geometry the BIOS is using and won't be able to partition your hard drive properly. (hence the "never reformat again" comment). That said, while having a dedicated mode does result in some hacks in a few places where we have to detect a dedicated disk and create a fake "compatibility" slice for it, I unfortunately don't see it going away just yet. Even if it does go away, we would first take out the ability to create them and then wait a major release before removing support for reading them. This is not unprecedented. To upgrade some of my machines to 4.x I had to repartition and reformat since we don't support bad144 in 4.x and above. I also don't see any code from anyone who is jumping up and down about possibly fixing the few remaining cases where sysinstall may botch the geometry of a disk. At the very least, dangerously dedicated mode should specify a valid length for the slice the way that truly dedicated mode does so that if you ever need to stick a dedicated disk in another computer for some reason, it doesn't see that all but the first 25,000k as being free and happily reformat it for you or other nonsense. > Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. No, they are actually smart in that they attempt to use a geometry that matches the MBR so that you can move disks around. As a result, when we try to fake it, it confuses them. > I'm really puzzled by this thread, because after years of running FreeBSD > I've come to the opinion that "dedicated" is how disks should be partitioned > under all circumstances ... I mean, where's the partition table on > my Sparc systems running Solaris? Who would care installing MS OSs > additionally to FreeBSD on a server providing 24x7 service? IA-64 mandates a valid MBR. It boots from a special FAT-32 partition containing the EFI boot loader. Get used to the idea. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13:33:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.worldpath.net (unix.worldpath.net [206.152.180.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D5F37B987 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from waldroni@lr.net) Received: from camry ([209.187.114.164]) by unix.worldpath.net (8.9.3/8.9.3(WPI)) with SMTP id QAA14923 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005a01bff4e5$3a9080a0$0100000a@waldron.house> Reply-To: "Isaac Waldron" From: "Isaac Waldron" To: "FreeBSD-Stable List" References: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> <00072314472900.27722@dave> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:33:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: David Uhring To: Mikhail Teterin ; Doug White Cc: Thomas Stromberg ; Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 3:42 PM Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > Doug White once stated: > > > > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some > > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? > > => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other > > => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes? > > = > > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > > =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > > > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky... > > > > =It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) > > > > Althouh, I'm delighted to see my opinion matter so much :), I don't see > > the benefit. Making the loader smarter? To do what? To play some silly > > animations, while loading kernel? No thanks... > > > > -mi > > I have to agree with Mikhail. On a dedicated server, there is no need to > concern ourselves with future OS additions to the HD. And I haven't had any > problems with BIOS's as old as IBM's from 1995, although I suspect that some of > Compaq's BIOS's may give rise to problems. My one Compaq box gives a warning > about running a configuration utility to install Unix, but I can't find it on > their web site. Leave the option as is; it ain't broken, don't fix it. > > dave > I recently graduated from high school, where I worked pretty closely with the Technology Coordinator as to decisions about technology. Unfortunately, he was absolutely stuck on WinNT as the way to do his webserving and what-not. I eventually persueded him to let me try setting up a webserver for the school on a 486 that we had kicking around. I was pretty sure it would be able to handle the load that we get, even though the school was running NT 4 on a Pentium something or other. To make a long story short, when I tried installing FreeBSD on the HDD as a dedicated disk, the box went haywire. I think the BIOS was the problem, because it just wouldn't boot the disk at all after that. Well, after seeing me spend a whole day trying to get it to work, he decided to stick with NT. Now, my point is that having a real partition table entry is probably a good idea, considering the problems that can happen if you don't use one. I think that the option for a dedicated disk shouldn't even be presented in the novice install, one should have to set an option in the appropriate screeen in sysinstall to get a dangerously dedicated disk. Isaac Waldron waldroni (at) lr (dot) net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13:47:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C6C37B8E7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03883; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: <397B5995.C2021D9A@urx.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:46:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Dynacom Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Uhring Cc: Mikhail Teterin , Doug White , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) References: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> <00072314472900.27722@dave> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Uhring wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > Doug White once stated: > > > > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some > > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? > > => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other > > => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes? > > = > > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > > =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > > > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky... > > > > =It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) > > > > Althouh, I'm delighted to see my opinion matter so much :), I don't see > > the benefit. Making the loader smarter? To do what? To play some silly > > animations, while loading kernel? No thanks... > > > > -mi > > I have to agree with Mikhail. On a dedicated server, there is no need to > concern ourselves with future OS additions to the HD. And I haven't had any > problems with BIOS's as old as IBM's from 1995, although I suspect that some of > Compaq's BIOS's may give rise to problems. My one Compaq box gives a warning > about running a configuration utility to install Unix, but I can't find it on > their web site. Leave the option as is; it ain't broken, don't fix it. I mostly agree but I'm also someone that had a motherboard that wouldn't boot a DD formated HD. The bios got to the point of doing and inquire to the HD and would hang. Add a dos mbr and the SuperMicro board was happy. Since then, I haven't used DD on IDE's. It may work on scsi but you may not be so lucky on the new S.M.A.R.T. setup IDE drives. Kent > > dave > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 13:53:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5169837B8E7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17013; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:02:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007232102.OAA17013@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Patrick M. Hausen" Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin), jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com (John Baldwin), stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:44:56 +0200." <200007231444.QAA94743@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:02:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I explicitly installed _all_ production machines "dangerously dedicated" > _to_get_around_ geometry problems. So I could swap SCSI controllers > of different brands with different translations. That was a silly idea. > So I just wouldn't need to care if the disk was > 1GB or not. > Try what happens if you install a "proper" partition table with > an Adaptec controller and swap it for an NCR one - boom! Actually, no. Both of these controllers' firmware will read the on-disk geometry and prefer that. > Try the same with a dedicated disk ... "Dangerously dedicated" is known to kill the Symbios BIOS code in some cases. > Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. Half right, half wrong. Note that a "dedicated" disk does not have a proper MBR. > I definitely would mind _reinstalling_ > 20 servers to upgrade > to 5.x eventually. I don't know where *anyone* has gotten this stupid idea from so listen up real good: THIS CHANGE TO BOOT0 WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY SYSTEM TO EVER BE REINSTALLED. The change that's being made is to desupport the creation of incorrectly laid out 'dedicated' disks. Your existing layouts will continue to work just fine. You could never use MBR-based OS selector with any other dedicated disk, so you are not losing any more functionality. PLEASE STOP SPREADING FUD AND UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOURS. THANKYOU. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 14:23:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CC6237BB28 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 23 Jul 2000 22:23:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:23:15 +0100 From: David Malone To: Richard Stanaford Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist - REHASH Message-ID: <20000723222315.A35029@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20000723191832.21768.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <20000723191832.21768.qmail@web3104.mail.yahoo.com>; from rsstan@yahoo.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:18:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:18:32PM -0700, Richard Stanaford wrote: > I went to -STABLE from a clean install of 4.0-RELEASE. Is updating the boot > blocks part of Standard Procedure after a > buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld? > > I don't remember reading anything about it in UPDATING if it is... I would thought that those boot blocks would be fine then, unless you picked some strange install options. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 14:27:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.chasm.org (adsl-63-195-80-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.80.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F5337B8E7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@chasm.org) Received: from aria.chasm.org (aria [192.168.0.3]) by www.chasm.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA66487 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@chasm.org) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000723142403.00b48150@chasm.org> X-Sender: martin@chasm.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:26:56 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Charles Martin Subject: root mount failed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed 4.0 on a clean system, cvsup'd, did buildworld, installworld, mergemaster, created a new kernel config, make depend, make (for the kernel), make install, and now on reboot I get the following: no devsw (majdev=0 bootdev=0xa0300000) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a no such device 'ad' setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 Any advice? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 14:43:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CD737B9E7 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:43:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cambria@mediaone.net) Received: from mediaone.net (mcambria.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.208.31]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12577; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <397B679F.76AAF847@mediaone.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:46:07 -0400 From: "Michael C. Cambria" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, cambria@world.std.com Subject: buildworld problem 3.4 to 4.0 (undefined reference to mkstemps) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed late Friday night (east coast) and tried to buildworld as per the second step in the /usr/src/UPDATING instructions to go from 3.4-Stable to 4.0-Stable. I keep getting an error at: ===> objdump [ lines deleted ] cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump -I/usr /src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils /objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ob jdump/../libbinutils -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib /binutils/binutils -DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/includ e -o objdump objdump.o prdbg.o ../libbinutils/libbinutils.a ../libopcodes/libo pcodes.a ../libbfd/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a(choose-temp.o): In function `make_temp_file': choose-temp.o(.text+0x264): undefined reference to `mkstemps' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 The cvsup finished at roughly 11 p.m. Eastern. This is now the 2ed late Friday night in a row trying to cvs and upgrade to 4.0-Stable, with the exact same result (e.g. buildworld fails in the SAME spot each time.) This leads me to lean towards "pilot error" and not the sources. However, I am at a loss for what to try next. This last time, I removed the entire /usr/src direcory (and always remove /usr/obj) and cvsup'ed the sources from scratch. my supfile is: *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all If anyone can see where I'm screwing up, I'd appriciate it. Thanks, MikeC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15: 4:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [194.77.233.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED2F37B556; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA98242; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:04:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" Message-Id: <200007232204.AAA98242@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007232102.OAA17013@mass.osd.bsdi.com> from Mike Smith at "Jul 23, 2000 02:02:44 pm" To: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 00:04:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: hausen@punkt.de (Patrick M. Hausen), mi@aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin), jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com (John Baldwin), stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Mike Smith wrote: > > I explicitly installed _all_ production machines "dangerously dedicated" > > _to_get_around_ geometry problems. So I could swap SCSI controllers > > of different brands with different translations. > > That was a silly idea. Well, when I once moved a partitioned disk from one machine to another with a different controller, the controller BIOS said someting like "gemoetry is - expecting ". This never happened with dedicated disks. > I don't know where *anyone* has gotten this stupid idea from so listen up > real good: > > THIS CHANGE TO BOOT0 WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY SYSTEM TO EVER BE REINSTALLED. > > The change that's being made is to desupport the creation of incorrectly > laid out 'dedicated' disks. Your existing layouts will continue to work > just fine. You could never use MBR-based OS selector with any other > dedicated disk, so you are not losing any more functionality. > > PLEASE STOP SPREADING FUD AND UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOURS. THANKYOU. Point taken, I'm going to shut up on this one. Patrick -- --- WEB ISS GmbH - Scheffelstr. 17a - 76135 Karlsruhe - 0721/9109-0 --- ------ Patrick M. Hausen - Technical Director - hausen@punkt.de ------- "Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology. Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15: 9:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3209C37B5C0; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA65488; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Tim Zingelman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote: > Anytime sysinstall is run (after initial installation), it resets > USA_RESIDENT=NO in /etc/make.conf as it starts up. Simply starting it and > immediately exiting will cause this change to /etc/make.conf. It was believed fixed some time ago (after 4.0-R) - are you still seeing the problem? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:11:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDBC37B7AD; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000715) id e6NMBAu09223; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:11:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007232211.e6NMBAu09223@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: "from Kris Kennaway at Jul 23, 2000 03:09:14 pm" To: Kris Kennaway Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:11:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Tim Zingelman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes I am. I cvsup'd recently, ran /stand/sysinstall to run the XFree86 config, and my USA_RESIDENT take got changed to NO. Larry Rosenman > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote: > > > Anytime sysinstall is run (after initial installation), it resets > > USA_RESIDENT=NO in /etc/make.conf as it starts up. Simply starting it and > > immediately exiting will cause this change to /etc/make.conf. > > It was believed fixed some time ago (after 4.0-R) - are you still seeing > the problem? > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:11:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6096437B7AD; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA65714; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: net admin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_3 buildworld woes! In-Reply-To: <20000723002333.A4433@almazs.pacex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, net admin wrote: > I am upgrading a 3.4-RC to -STABLE and did cvsup to day Jul. 22 at > about 18:00hrs and all the way to the end makebuildworld fails on > /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124 undelclared identifier... parse > error "}" /usr/src/usr.bin/xlint/lint2/chk.c:124: `hDOUBLEna' undeclared (first use this function) There's no mention of 'hDOUBLEna' in my chk.c - check for source code corruption: you may have hardware problems. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:13:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320FD37B7AD; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA65849; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: <397B5523.490C9028@gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > thanks to all of you who answered my question, it seems to be a little > difficult and weird, rvplay5.0 for freebsd, rp7.0 bin for linux, plus rpm > installation, kinda difficult, isnt it? cd /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer && make install clean Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:14:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CBA37BA39; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA65931; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:14:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: David Uhring Cc: Jim Mock , Mark Ovens , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: <00072311562500.00250@dave> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, David Uhring wrote: > I installed the beta2 version and it works great in standalone. But when I > start up Netscape, I get errors about bad magic in the plug-in. Apparently > it needs some tweaking. On the other hand, standalone is OK, too. You can't use Linux plugins with the FreeBSD native netscape, and vice versa. It works fine with Linux netscape. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:16:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A8537B9F8; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY6007J68JWDC@smtp.fnal.gov>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:16:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA28570; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:16:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:16:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-reply-to: X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Anytime sysinstall is run (after initial installation), it resets > > USA_RESIDENT=NO in /etc/make.conf as it starts up. Simply starting it and > > immediately exiting will cause this change to /etc/make.conf. > > It was believed fixed some time ago (after 4.0-R) - are you still seeing > the problem? > > Kris Yes. I'm pretty confident that it is not fixed. You should be able to duplicate the bug on any system from sources after Feb 19th, 2000 I think. Just set USA_RESIDENT=YES in your /etc/make.conf, start sysinstall and exit right away. check /etc/make.conf and you'll find USA_RESIDENT=NO. I'm currently working on a 'better' patch... if you are interested. - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:20:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF05037B90D for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 686239EE01; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090C9B001; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Andrew Tulloch Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcm0 sblive and dodgy irq: 100000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > I cvsup and built world on friday, after noticing I'd forgotten to add > sound support I recompiled today with device pcm added to my kernel config > and am no recieing kernel messages saying: pcm0: dodgy irq: 1000000 > anyone got any clues? FWIW, I cvsup'd/built world/etc. last night (4.1-RC) and my SB is seen by device pcm as follows: [101]mike@zeus{mike}$ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 22 2000 19:24:24 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x1060 irq 10 (4p/3r channels duplex) But, after installing xmms, loading an mp3, and clicking 'play', the system reboots. I've tried this a few times with a few different audio files. I'm cvsup'ing again now, and I still want to try compiling xmms with the flags mentioned earlier. -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:21:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4337BA3E; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA66433; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Fred Condo Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org, marcel@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld of RELENG4 fails only on 3.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20000722021811.F4220@absinthe.condo.chico.ca.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Fred Condo wrote: > I've updated several FreeBSD 4.x-STABLE systems to RELENG4 (4.1-RC) > using the procedure in the UPDATING file. I have a 3.1-RELEASE system > (whose uptime is currently 426 days), which I would like to update to > 4-STABLE in a week's time with minimal down time. So I would like to > pre-build the world and kernel before I go to the ISP and do the > actual update. mkstemps() was only added to 3.x shortly before 3.4-RELEASE. It may be possible to develop a fix for the upgrade case, but in the meantime you could upgrade to 3.4-R and then to 4.1-RC. I assume that still works. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:24:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A903C37B9DE; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA66765; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Tim Zingelman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: <200007232211.e6NMBAu09223@lerami.lerctr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > Yes I am. I cvsup'd recently, ran /stand/sysinstall to run the > XFree86 config, and my USA_RESIDENT take got changed to NO. sysinstall isn't built or installed as part of make world - did you recompile it specifically? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:26:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E55B37B9A4; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000715) id e6NMQPo09923; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:26:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007232226.e6NMQPo09923@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: "from Kris Kennaway at Jul 23, 2000 03:24:45 pm" To: Kris Kennaway Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:26:25 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , Tim Zingelman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope. I ass/u/med it was. Larry > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > > Yes I am. I cvsup'd recently, ran /stand/sysinstall to run the > > XFree86 config, and my USA_RESIDENT take got changed to NO. > > sysinstall isn't built or installed as part of make world - did you > recompile it specifically? > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:27:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D93637BBBC; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY6007H8918Z3@smtp.fnal.gov>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:27:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA28625; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:27:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-reply-to: X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > sysinstall isn't built or installed as part of make world - did you > recompile it specifically? > Kris Yes. I also built and ran it in gdb to see exactly the problem. - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:30:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41CA537BB8A for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 20899 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Jul 2000 22:30:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jul 2000 22:30:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:30:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Larry Rosenman Cc: Kris Kennaway , Tim Zingelman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: <200007232226.e6NMQPo09923@lerami.lerctr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I can confirm that it DOES behave like this as of my last make world (yes, I rebuilt sysinstall as well) which was May 30 2000. - -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 770340 May 30 01:30 /stand/sysinstall* So odds are it's still there, I haven't cvsup'd lately though... Matt On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: : : Nope. I ass/u/med it was. : : Larry : > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: : > : > > Yes I am. I cvsup'd recently, ran /stand/sysinstall to run the : > > XFree86 config, and my USA_RESIDENT take got changed to NO. : > : > sysinstall isn't built or installed as part of make world - did you : > recompile it specifically? : > : > Kris : > : > -- : > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. : > -- Charles Forsythe : > : : : -- : Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler : Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org : US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5e3H/dMMtMcA1U5ARAv+1AJ4wRH7jREOpuQlRtFOea5uzQZBWGQCcCSo1 SPBPpp/JvSw0CJZRYI0xVgs= =6Cx1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:32:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62D737BB28; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25039; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007232232.PAA25039@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "Jul 23, 2000 03:24:45 pm" To: Kris Kennaway Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: zingelman@fnal.gov, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > > Yes I am. I cvsup'd recently, ran /stand/sysinstall to run the > > XFree86 config, and my USA_RESIDENT take got changed to NO. > > sysinstall isn't built or installed as part of make world - did you > recompile it specifically? > > Kris No, he's right. sysinstall is definitely broken in this respect, and I'm definitely interested in your patches to fix it. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:37:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EA837B9E1 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:37:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01810; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02698; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200007232237.PAA02698@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: pcm0 sblive and dodgy irq: 100000 In-Reply-To: from Mike Hoskins at "Jul 23, 2000 03:20:12 pm" To: Mike Hoskins Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Andrew Tulloch , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Hoskins wrote: > pcm0: at io 0x1060 irq 10 (4p/3r channels duplex) > But, after installing xmms, loading an mp3, and clicking 'play', the > system reboots. You have ECC memory, right? This is a known problem. Cameron will soon have some ECC memory himself so he can reproduce this and hopefully fix it. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://store.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:38:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D9B37B58F for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 175AA9EE01; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B979B001; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Charles Martin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: root mount failed In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000723142403.00b48150@chasm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Charles Martin wrote: > no devsw (majdev=0 bootdev=0xa0300000) > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a > no such device 'ad' > setrootbyname failed > ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp > Root mount failed: 6 Uhh... What is (or, better yet, isn't) in your new kernel? This looks like your kernel isn't recognizing your ATAPI disks... I.E. there's no driver in your kernel. Boot kernel.old, RTFM /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT, try again. Specifically... I've seen people misread LINT's comment: # You only need one "device ata" for it to find all # PCI ATA/ATAPI devices on modern machines. Then go out and compile a kernel with only 'device ata' in it. With no 'atadisk' line, ad* isn't detected, so... no / for you. -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:44:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD3137B9A4; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17668; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007232253.PAA17668@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:53:40 -0700 From: Mike Smith Subject: Driver for Adaptec/Dell/HP PCI:SCSI RAID adapters available Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------- Blind-Carbon-Copy X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Driver for Adaptec/Dell/HP PCI:SCSI RAID adapters available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:53:40 -0700 From: Mike Smith The first BETA version of the 'aac' driver for the Adaptec AAC-364 'Jalapeno' and AAC-3642 'Jalapeno II' RAID adapters is available from http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html#adaptec These adapters are OEMed by Dell as the PERC 2/QC and by HP as the HP NetRAID-4m. The driver has been tested on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT, but is known to build and should function just fine on 4.0-STABLE as well. Testers are encouraged to contact me for assistance, or to report on progress. Thanks go to BSDi for funding the development of this driver, and Adaptec for supplying me with a profusion of sample adapters and the source for their Linux driver to work from. Particular thanks to Justin Gibbs for finding the right person at Adaptec to make all this happen. - -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] ------- End of Blind-Carbon-Copy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD2E37B9A4; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY6007HYA3AQQ@smtp.fnal.gov>; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:49:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA28760; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:49:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:49:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-reply-to: <200007232232.PAA25039@pike.osd.bsdi.com> X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: John Baldwin Cc: Kris Kennaway , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1804928587-964392597=:28714" X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1804928587-964392597=:28714 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > No, he's right. sysinstall is definitely broken in this respect, and > I'm definitely interested in your patches to fix it. :) The patches are attached... In either the case that no make.conf exists, or one exists without a USA_RESIDENT line in it, the line is added, regardless of if I have confirmed that the default NO is correct or not. In the case that make.conf has a USA_RESIDENT line, I only overwrite that line if the user has answered the question 'are you really a us resident'. Let me know if you have any questions. 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"unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:57:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [209.145.74.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DDA37C30B for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09475; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:57:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:57:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrian Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: John Baldwin Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007232030.NAA23028@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > Hello all! > > > > Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > > > John Baldwin once stated: > > > > > > Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > > All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > > don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. > > No, they are actually smart in that they attempt to use a geometry that > matches the MBR so that you can move disks around. As a result, when we > try to fake it, it confuses them. Hmmm. Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I've been using "dangerously dedicated" disks exclusively for the last few years, because it was supposed to insulate me from the silliness of BIOS geometry translation. By insulate, I mean that a disk formatted on one system was always usable on another even if it decided to have a different geometry translation. I don't shuttle disks around between systems as much as I used to, but I do recall dedicated mode helping. The only systems that had problem booting were old and are long gone. I haven't seen or bought anything in the last three years that won't boot a "dangerously dedicated" disk. Is the requirement of an MBR going to apply to removable media like MO drives? I've only ever gotten these to work in "dangerously dedicated" mode. > > I'm really puzzled by this thread, because after years of running FreeBSD > > I've come to the opinion that "dedicated" is how disks should be partitioned > > under all circumstances ... I mean, where's the partition table on > > my Sparc systems running Solaris? Who would care installing MS OSs > > additionally to FreeBSD on a server providing 24x7 service? > > IA-64 mandates a valid MBR. It boots from a special FAT-32 partition > containing the EFI boot loader. Get used to the idea. Ugh. Well, I guess FAT-32 is no-longer a MS-DOS thing now, in the same way that the MBR ins't. So much for the advancement of technology. Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 15:59:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680E637C329 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:59:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25754; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007232258.PAA25754@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: from Tim Zingelman at "Jul 23, 2000 05:49:57 pm" To: Tim Zingelman Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Zingelman wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > No, he's right. sysinstall is definitely broken in this respect, and > > I'm definitely interested in your patches to fix it. :) > > The patches are attached... > > In either the case that no make.conf exists, or one exists without a > USA_RESIDENT line in it, the line is added, regardless of if I have > confirmed that the default NO is correct or not. Hmm, we probably shouldn't do this. I think your first patchset is actually the proper one. Ultimately, the user needs to choose whether or not they are in the U.S., we should never choose this for them. Thus, we should only write anything out if we ask them the question. > In the case that make.conf has a USA_RESIDENT line, I only overwrite that > line if the user has answered the question 'are you really a us resident'. Yes, this is good. :) > Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. > > - Tim -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16: 3: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sabre.velocet.net (sabre.velocet.net [198.96.118.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814AB37BB74 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@office.tor.velocet.net) Received: from office.tor.velocet.net (trooper.velocet.net [216.126.82.226]) by sabre.velocet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC86137F12 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by office.tor.velocet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28607; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:02:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14715.31131.941891.705718@trooper.velocet.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:02:51 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Advansys SCSI controllers. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have found that the Advansys controller which probes as: adw0: port 0xe800-0xe83f mem 0xe6820000-0xe68200ff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 adw0: SCSI ID 7, High & Low SE Term Enabled, Queue Depth 253 with drives: da0 at adw0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) da1 at adw0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 17522MB (35885168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2233C) will under heavy usage spit out the message: Jul 22 19:00:27 mortar /kernel: (da0:adw0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack After which, the machine will respond to incoming telnet requests, but never print login. I assume this to be because the drive is no longer available. This is a server hosted at "rackspace.com". They report that this definately does not happen under 3.4 (which they consider a standard FreeBSD install), but I've found that it does happen with 4.0 and it appears to happen more often under 4.1-RC2. The message itself comes from CAM (scsi_da.c) in response to an ENXIO return code from the lower driver. A number of ENXIO returns were recently removed from the advansys driver, but they were all in a section dealing with attaching the device, etc. Anyhow, there appear to be several places were ENXIO can happen, and CAM appears to consider this unrecoverable. The server at rackspace.com will likely get IDE drives or a different scsi controller, so this is unfortunately a report without much ability to try patches. Rackspace.com aparently knows of this ... they've had this problem come up before with 4.0 installed customers. Replicating the problem is simple: make buildworld exercises it quite quickly. I will likely create a PR unless someone knows of a fix for this. Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16: 6:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F63837BCF1; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22470; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: John Baldwin Cc: Kris Kennaway , zingelman@fnal.gov, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:32:03 PDT." <200007232232.PAA25039@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:06:08 -0700 Message-ID: <22467.964393568@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > No, he's right. sysinstall is definitely broken in this respect, and > I'm definitely interested in your patches to fix it. :) One quick fix would be to disable the USA_RESIDENT hack entirely and just let users edit their make.conf files appropriately. When this bug was first reported, I looked at a couple of fixes to it and found them to be generally icky, adding to sysinstall's global variable bloat (which I'd dearly love to remove) or otherwise further obfuscating code which is already too obfuscated as it is. It was on my TODO list to simply shoot the damn thing in the head. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16:12:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.chasm.org (adsl-63-195-80-23.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.80.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477F537BB23 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@chasm.org) Received: from aria.chasm.org (aria [192.168.0.3]) by www.chasm.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66598 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@chasm.org) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000723161112.00af59e0@chasm.org> X-Sender: martin@chasm.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:12:13 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Charles Martin Subject: root mount failed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been informed of the new way of building the kernel, described in /usr/src/UPDATING, which seemed to work no problem. Thanks to all who responded! Charles To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16:12:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [209.145.74.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929A337BD64; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09513; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:12:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:12:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrian Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007232102.OAA17013@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > I explicitly installed _all_ production machines "dangerously dedicated" > > _to_get_around_ geometry problems. So I could swap SCSI controllers > > of different brands with different translations. > > That was a silly idea. Orginal story: Patient: Doctor, my head hurts when I do this. (Patient hits head with board.) Doctor: Well, stop doing that. Recast with geeks: User: Guru, my MBR compatible disk doesn't boot when I do this. (User installs new controller or moves disk to a machine with an incompatable geometry translation.) OLD: Guru: Well, don't use MBR compatible partitioning. NEW: Guru: That was a silly idea. The "OLD" answer has been the more useful one historically speaking. I guess my problem is that I've always seen dedicated mode as a solution, and not a problem. I'm struggling to see what I've been missing all this time or need to loose in the future by staying with dedicated mode. Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16:19: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2BD37B85F for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY6007J4BFIX4@smtp.fnal.gov> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:18:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28853; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:18:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:18:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-reply-to: <200007232258.PAA25754@pike.osd.bsdi.com> X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: John Baldwin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > In either the case that no make.conf exists, or one exists without a > > USA_RESIDENT line in it, the line is added, regardless of if I have > > confirmed that the default NO is correct or not. > > Hmm, we probably shouldn't do this. I think your first patchset is > actually the proper one. Ultimately, the user needs to choose whether > or not they are in the U.S., we should never choose this for them. Thus, > we should only write anything out if we ask them the question. From what I could tell from mailing list archives, etc. It looked like there was some need to have this set one way or the other, no matter what... though maybe I misinterpreted that... Or as Jordan just suggested, cut it out entirely. As far as that goes, it looks like USAResident could be taken out of the globals too... make it (and my USAResValid) statics in configMake_conf(), have that function ask the question. Though I have not checked to see if configMake_conf() is called running this in scripted mode. I'm willing to take a look. - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F3237C323; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vsilyaev@mindspring.com) Received: from jupiter.delta.ny.us (nyf-ny9-04.ix.netcom.com [198.211.18.4]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06273; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from vsilyaev@localhost) by jupiter.delta.ny.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00520; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:19:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vsilyaev) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:19:58 -0400 From: "Vladimir N. Silyaev" To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: jim@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000723191958.C417@jupiter.delta.ny.us> References: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <200007232004.QAA00657@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007232004.QAA00657@aldan.algebra.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 04:04:48PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > =On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > => RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > => rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > => doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me > => that installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as > => standalone *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > => > => You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > =There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > =:-) > > BTW, the port is rather raw -- it leaves the obvious task of > putting two binaries, mime types and mail caps files into > ${PREFIX}/lib/netscape-linux/ to the user, while following the > RealPlayer's braindamage of encouraging the user to store everything > under his/her own ~/.netscape. For such playings with RealPlayer required dependencies from Linux Netscape. And, unfortunatly, I don't have success to manage to work RealPlayer7 as plugin from Linux Netscape - RealPlayer plugin starts but nothing more happened. -- Vladimir P.S. I glad to accept any patches to RealPlayer port which could registr mimetypes and mail caps for Linux Netscape. Hint: for that just enough to start mimeinstall.sh from the RealPlayer with second arg 'global'. The problem is how to remove that info after deinstalation ;(. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 16:25:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hdroam.ssd.loral.com (144.201.6.64.reflexcom.com [64.6.201.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC38337BBA9 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan@hdroam.ssd.loral.com) Received: (from hdiwan@localhost) by hdroam.ssd.loral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03912 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:13:52 -0700 From: Hasan Diwan To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> Reply-To: hdiwan@pobox.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This appears to be a race condition. It seems that something arbitrarily locks /dev/dsp (my soundcard) at random intervals and lsof can't figure out what it is. Brian Fumerola suggested a patch that decreased the occurence, but it didn't eliminate it. Another problem is that RealPlayer7 kills X when I load it. No error is given. We are still experiencing the same problem as outlined earlier this month with the ep driver resetting a 3com PnP 3c509TPO card's MAC address to '00:00:00:00:00:00', and renders it unusable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 17:26:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FA837BB8B for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@xena.IPAustralia.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA49525; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:26:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.IPAustralia.gov.au) Received: from xena.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.52) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma049503; Mon, 24 Jul 00 10:26:14 +1000 Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au (newton.aipo.gov.au [10.0.100.18]) by xena.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA57701; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:29:17 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA92598; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:26:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:26:13 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-Sender: carl@newton.aipo.gov.au To: John Baldwin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-RC2 up for grabs In-Reply-To: <200007210605.XAA41102@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > rather than 3.x binaries and supporting the i810, they most likely won't be Does this mean the agp kernel module stuff is in this? Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 17:37:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD6137B80A for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:37:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27303; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007240037.RAA27303@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: 4.1-RC2 up for grabs In-Reply-To: from Carl Makin at "Jul 24, 2000 10:26:13 am" To: Carl Makin Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Carl Makin wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > rather than 3.x binaries and supporting the i810, they most likely won't be > > Does this mean the agp kernel module stuff is in this? > > Carl. I believe so, yes. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 18: 2:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFD937B6A2 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jsachs@iclick.com) Received: from iclick.com ([166.72.10.35]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000072401012922902tu2m8e>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:01:32 +0000 Message-ID: <397B956F.40E9DD4C@iclick.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:01:35 -0400 From: Jay Sachs Organization: iClick, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Justin Cain Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, asmo@bck.org, jcain@kivex.com Subject: Re: Make Buildkernel Error: answers and questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The answer to your problem, which I finally figured out for myself, is that make buildkernel only works if you've recently (sometimes immediately) done a make buildworld AND **you still have the /usr/obj tree around**. (I don't remember seeing this explicitly stated in the recent threads, but I definitely could have missed it). If you did a make clean, or rm-ed /usr/obj, 'make buildkernel' will NOT work. The clue is early on in the output of buildkernel. You'll see lines sh /usr/src/sys/kern/genassym.sh genassym.o > assym.s nm: could not exec elf/nm in /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec: No such file or directory Turns out Makefile.inc1 sets OBJFORMAT_PATH, which causes the exec that script to fail. My conclusion is that even if I've done a buildworld recently, and blew away /usr/obj for space reasons, then I should go about building new kernels via cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config -r MYKERNEL make depend && make && make install Furthermore, as long as I haven't supped since I built world, the old-fashioned way of building a kernel is not only safe, but necessary, if /usr/obj is cleaned. jay Justin Cain wrote: > > I recieved a suggestion to remove the "wi" entry from the > /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile which I did for a test. Instead of stopping > at wi it stops at vinum which is the previous module to compile before wi > ...so it appears that the modules makefile is possibly broke. This is the > output of the break in the make buildkernel: > > ===> vinum > @ -> /usr/src/sys > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > touch opt_vinum.h > perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -DVINUMDEBUG -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > -I. -I@ -I@/../include /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumconfig.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumdaemon.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinuminterrupt.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumio.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumlock.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinummemory.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumparser.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumraid5.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumrequest.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumrevive.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumstate.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumutil.c > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- > -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include > opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/locore.s > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > {standard input}:1745: Error: .space specifies non-absolute value > {standard input}:2505: Error: undefined symbol L0 in operation setting > PTmap > {standard input}:2505: Error: undefined symbol PDRSHIFT in operation > setting PTmap [snip] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 18: 5:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CCD37B50E; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 13982342; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:05:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:05:34 -0500 (CDT) From: duhring X-Sender: root@dave.uhring.com To: Kris Kennaway Cc: David Uhring , Jim Mock , Mark Ovens , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don't really need plugins anyway. After you visit a few of the sites which transmit realaudio streams, their locations are saved under FILE in realplayer. Just click on FILE the click on your favorite station. Damn, xntpd just sent a bunch of crap to the console, hope it doesn't show up here. On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, David Uhring wrote: > > > I installed the beta2 version and it works great in standalone. But when I > > start up Netscape, I get errors about bad magic in the plug-in. Apparently > > it needs some tweaking. On the other hand, standalone is OK, too. > > You can't use Linux plugins with the FreeBSD native netscape, and vice > versa. It works fine with Linux netscape. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 18:41:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.larp.com (zeus.larp.com [38.209.52.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AF537BA66 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmo@zeus.larp.com) Received: from localhost (asmo@localhost) by zeus.larp.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6O1gYu28135; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:42:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:42:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: Jay Sachs Cc: Justin Cain , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, asmo@bck.org, jcain@kivex.com Subject: Re: Make Buildkernel Error: answers and questions In-Reply-To: <397B956F.40E9DD4C@iclick.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sounds Great! Ill give it a try..and to answer that question. I always did a rm -rf /usr/obj/* . I hope it works :) Thanks! Ill let you know Justin On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Jay Sachs wrote: > The answer to your problem, which I finally figured out for myself, is > that > > make buildkernel > > only works if you've recently (sometimes immediately) done a > > make buildworld > > AND > > **you still have the /usr/obj tree around**. > > (I don't remember seeing this explicitly stated in the recent threads, > but I definitely could have missed it). If you did a make clean, or > rm-ed /usr/obj, 'make buildkernel' will NOT work. > > The clue is early on in the output of buildkernel. You'll see lines > > sh /usr/src/sys/kern/genassym.sh genassym.o > assym.s > nm: could not exec elf/nm in /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec: No > such file or > directory > > Turns out Makefile.inc1 sets OBJFORMAT_PATH, which causes the exec that > script to fail. > > My conclusion is that even if I've done a buildworld recently, and blew > away /usr/obj for space reasons, then I should go about building new > kernels via > > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > config -r MYKERNEL > make depend && make && make install > > Furthermore, as long as I haven't supped since I built world, the > old-fashioned way of building a kernel is not only safe, but necessary, > if /usr/obj is cleaned. > > jay > > Justin Cain wrote: > > > > I recieved a suggestion to remove the "wi" entry from the > > /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile which I did for a test. Instead of stopping > > at wi it stops at vinum which is the previous module to compile before wi > > ...so it appears that the modules makefile is possibly broke. This is the > > output of the break in the make buildkernel: > > > > ===> vinum > > @ -> /usr/src/sys > > machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include > > touch opt_vinum.h > > perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src > > rm -f .depend > > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -DVINUMDEBUG -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- > > -I. -I@ -I@/../include /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumconfig.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumdaemon.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinuminterrupt.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumio.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumioctl.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumlock.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinummemory.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumparser.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumraid5.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumrequest.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumrevive.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumstate.c > > /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinumutil.c > > cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls > > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > > -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- > > -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -include > > opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 > > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/locore.s > > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > > {standard input}:1745: Error: .space specifies non-absolute value > > {standard input}:2505: Error: undefined symbol L0 in operation setting > > PTmap > > {standard input}:2505: Error: undefined symbol PDRSHIFT in operation > > setting PTmap > > [snip] > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 18:50:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAFF37B843; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6O1o3l27240; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:49:58 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote: > > > Anytime sysinstall is run (after initial installation), it resets > > USA_RESIDENT=NO in /etc/make.conf as it starts up. Simply starting it and > > immediately exiting will cause this change to /etc/make.conf. > > It was believed fixed some time ago (after 4.0-R) - are you still seeing > the problem? I can verify that it happens with sysinstall from the RC2 iso. And continues with "fresh" sources. CVSup update ends at 2000/07/23 21:35:12 EDT -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 18:52: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C27537B843 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000715) id e6O1ptk09849 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:51:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007240151.e6O1ptk09849@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: openSSH 2.1 vs. 2.1.1 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:51:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a timeframe when openSSH 2.1.1 will be in the RELENG_4 tree as opposed to ports? There (apparently) is an issue with compatibility from 2.1.1p4 (on my UnixWare box), and the stock 2.1 (from RELENG_4 today). When using the PORTS 2.1.1, it works fine. Larry Rosenman -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 23: 4:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.gothworld.com (scully.gothworld.com [204.177.57.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805E337BA5E for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmo@scully.gothworld.com) Received: from localhost (asmo@localhost) by scully.gothworld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA09848; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:59:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from asmo@scully.gothworld.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: asmo@bck.org Subject: Make Installworld Error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I just Cvsupped, Made buildworld, and installed the kernal rebooted and came up fine, I went to do an make installworld and it went fine for a good period of time, but then this message was spit out. ===> share/zoneinfo umask 022; cd /usr/src/share/zoneinfo; zic -d /usr/share/zoneinfo -p America/New_York -y /usr/obj/usr/src/share/zoneinfo/yearistype africa antarctica asia australasia etcetera europe factory northamerica southamerica systemv install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab /usr/share/zoneinfo/ chown -R root:wheel /usr/share/zoneinfo/* ===> sys ===> sys/boot ===> sys/boot/ficl ===> sys/boot/i386 ===> sys/boot/i386/mbr install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 mbr /boot ===> sys/boot/i386/boot0 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 boot0 /boot ===> sys/boot/i386/kgzldr install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 kgzldr.o /usr/lib ===> sys/boot/i386/btx ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/btx ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/btxldr ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/lib ===> sys/boot/i386/boot2 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 boot1 /boot/boot1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 boot2 /boot/boot2 install: boot2: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 As you can see I DO have a boot2 file, Does anyone know what could be wrong? scully# pwd /boot scully# ls -las total 751 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 . 1 drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:36 .. 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1024 Jul 24 01:41 boot0 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 boot1 8 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Jul 21 15:59 boot2 176 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 165888 Jul 21 15:59 cdboot 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 15:59 defaults 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jul 20 20:33 kernel.conf 168 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 163840 Jul 21 15:59 loader 10 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 9237 Jul 20 19:44 loader.4th 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 67 Jul 20 08:35 loader.conf 12 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12064 Jul 20 19:44 loader.help 168 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 163840 Jul 20 19:44 loader.old 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 338 Mar 20 16:30 loader.rc 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 mbr 176 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 165888 Jul 21 15:59 pxeboot 25 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 25121 Jul 20 19:44 support.4th Can I ignore this if no one knows how to fix it? Any help will be appreciated!! I will be monitoring the Newgroups for Solutions. Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 23:11:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCA537B6E6 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:11:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by david.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6O6ArR01369; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:10:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6O6Ar312809; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:10:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e6O6Ara61463; Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:10:52 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: Doug White , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) Message-ID: <20000724081052.A87673@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:33:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23-Jul-2000 at 15:33:43 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Doug White once stated: > > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, though)? > => Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be compatible with other > => OSes", if there will never be any other OSes? > = > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > =really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just lucky... You are lucky. Try some Siemens crap with their Phoenix BIOS. They simply say "Read error" if you wanted to use dangerously dedicated mode. I have been bitten by this a lot of times. Normally, I don't use Siemens machines for things other than Win* crap but sometimes I have (had) to. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 23:16:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D1B37BB45 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6O6GOH29690; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:16:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6O6GN314977; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:16:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e6O6GNa61499; Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:16:22 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Adrian Filipi-Martin Cc: John Baldwin , "Patrick M. Hausen" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) Message-ID: <20000724081622.B87673@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <200007232030.NAA23028@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from adrian@ubergeeks.com on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 06:57:12PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23-Jul-2000 at 18:57:12 -0400, Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > > Hello all! > > > > > > Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > > > > > John Baldwin once stated: > > > > > > > > > Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > > > All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > > > don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. > > > > No, they are actually smart in that they attempt to use a geometry that > > matches the MBR so that you can move disks around. As a result, when we > > try to fake it, it confuses them. > > Hmmm. Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I've been using > "dangerously dedicated" disks exclusively for the last few years, because > it was supposed to insulate me from the silliness of BIOS geometry > translation. By insulate, I mean that a disk formatted on one system was > always usable on another even if it decided to have a different geometry > translation. > > I don't shuttle disks around between systems as much as I used to, > but I do recall dedicated mode helping. The only systems that had problem > booting were old and are long gone. I haven't seen or bought anything in > the last three years that won't boot a "dangerously dedicated" disk. Buy a (brandnew) Siemens machine and you will see one :-(. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jul 23 23:35:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A0D37BADA for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA33675; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007240634.XAA33675@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Make Installworld Error In-Reply-To: from Justin at "Jul 24, 2000 01:59:24 am" To: Justin Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Justin wrote: > Hello > > I just Cvsupped, Made buildworld, and installed the kernal rebooted and > came up fine, I went to do an make installworld and it went fine for a > good period of time, but then this message was spit out. Look in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2 and make sure you have a boot2 binary in there. If you don't, then it failed to build for some reason. Are you sure your buildworld finished normally? > scully# pwd > /boot > scully# ls -las > total 751 > 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 . > 1 drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:36 .. > 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1024 Jul 24 01:41 boot0 > 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 boot1 > 8 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Jul 21 15:59 boot2 ^^^^^^^^ Note that your /boot/boot2 is an old copy, not the one you just built. > Can I ignore this if no one knows how to fix it? Any help will be > appreciated!! Your machine will still work ok, so you don't have to wory about that, but I would try to reolve this ASAP. > I will be monitoring the Newgroups for Solutions. > > Justin -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 1: 2:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F041137B5EA for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA15698; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:02:31 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 15618; Mon Jul 24 10:02:19 2000 Message-ID: <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:05:55 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <6390.964219824@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > I'm almost tempted to declare this a show-stopper for FreeBSD 4.1. > Is anyone else even able to reproduce this? As you know, Jordan, I have had this problem in a bad way since 4.0-R (currently running a 3 week old stablesnapshot). I made those terrible kludges to the driver that I sent you, which are definitely not a real solution. However, my mouse is now completely usable with these hacks. I suspect though, that the problem may be in the kbd driver, if only because I sometimes (quite infrequently, but even so) have my keyboard going screwy too, usually manifesting as the Enter key being remapped to (for example) backspace or scroll lock. gram. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 1: 6:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DF637B5EA for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA15963; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:05:54 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 15955; Mon Jul 24 10:05:42 2000 Message-ID: <397BF9AE.7D28F9E3@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:09:18 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Jeacle Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <6390.964219824@localhost> <200007212257.PAA57003@realtime.exit.com> <20000722001046.A79391@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Karl Jeacle wrote: > > FWIW, the switchbox appears as: "psm0: > model IntelliMouse, device ID 3", regardless of what the actual mouse is. This is due to a bug in psm.c that I reported a while back. There is a table of mice types, and there is a #define that is meant to be the index in the table of the generic PS/2 mouse, but it instead points to the Intellimouse entry (if I remember correctly, it has a value of 7 when it should be 11). -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 1:12:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4554B37B506 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA16304; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:10:15 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 16219; Mon Jul 24 10:09:25 2000 Message-ID: <397BFA8D.68DB591D@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:13:01 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <6390.964219824@localhost> <20000721194303.A9512@caffeine.gerp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Kevin M. Dulzo" wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 03:50:24PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > I'm almost tempted to declare this a show-stopper for FreeBSD 4.1. > > Is anyone else even able to reproduce this? > > > If it makes you feel any better, I recall having this pop up > in the past. It almost made me ditch FreeBSD/X on my laptop altogether. > This was a Dell Inspiron 7000 and 7500 with a built in 2 button synaptics > touchpad. My problems, which were sufficient for me to spend three weeks kludging the psm driver until I got to a 99% workable approach, were on a Compaq laptop with a 2-button Synaptics touchpad. gram -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 1:15:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D8337BB4C for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA16729; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:14:38 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 16649; Mon Jul 24 10:13:38 2000 Message-ID: <397BFB8B.6166F72A@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:17:15 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <7214.964235887@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Have you tried the patch below which I posted to -stable and -current > > mailing lists back in June? > > Whoops! I think I was back at USENIX during that time and it > fell through the cracks. > > *patch patch* YES! You are my hero, Kazu, it works perfectly now! > Hurrah! Let's commit it and get everyone to see if it breaks anything > else! :-) As I reported to Kazu - this patch stops my mouse going beserk BUT it also stops it working at all. It just freezes up (I guess at a time when it would have gone beserk) and doesn't move again after that. If I recall correctly, the patch was meant as a test to see how the behaviour would change, not as an actual fix... -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 1:31:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75B537B6FD for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:rKkZdL1v5rpi1ujyxMtd3ww5aEpkYfVp@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id RAA17867; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:31:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:xegtVNR9MBawxfF3cHL70b43O07uoe9d@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W/zodiac-May2000) with ESMTP id RAA03417; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:38:07 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200007240838.RAA03417@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Graham Wheeler Cc: Karl Jeacle , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:09:18 +0200." <397BF9AE.7D28F9E3@cequrux.com> References: <6390.964219824@localhost> <200007212257.PAA57003@realtime.exit.com> <20000722001046.A79391@eircom.net> <397BF9AE.7D28F9E3@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:38:06 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Karl Jeacle wrote: >> >> FWIW, the switchbox appears as: "psm0: >> model IntelliMouse, device ID 3", regardless of what the actual mouse is. > >This is due to a bug in psm.c that I reported a while back. There is a >table of mice types, and there is a #define that is meant to be the >index in the table of the generic PS/2 mouse, but it instead points to >the Intellimouse entry (if I remember correctly, it has a value of 7 >when it should be 11). Ooops, I forgot to fix this bug! Thank you for reminding. But, it is highly likely that this is NOT the cause of this wrong message. Some switch box product ALWAYS pretend that the mouse is a IntelliMouse whenever it sees the host computer is trying to probe IntelliMouse by sending a special command sequence to the mouse. I guess the manufacture is assuming that since the host computer is sending this special sequence of commands, some sort of IntelliMouse driver is installed on the computer, and thus, the mouse must be IntelliMouse (what a terrible assumption!) Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 1:35: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851CB37B86E for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA89756; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:34:51 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Isaac Waldron Cc: FreeBSD-Stable List Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) Message-ID: <20000724013451.A89715@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200007231933.PAA00475@aldan.algebra.com> <00072314472900.27722@dave> <005a01bff4e5$3a9080a0$0100000a@waldron.house> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <005a01bff4e5$3a9080a0$0100000a@waldron.house>; from waldroni@lr.net on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 04:33:14PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 04:33:14PM -0400, Isaac Waldron wrote: > To make a long story short, when I tried installing FreeBSD on the HDD > as a dedicated disk, the box went haywire. What I have to ask, is why you were doing a 'dedicated disk' install rather than a normal one? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 2:21:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCB937B6B6; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 02:21:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from tfx-us15-196.ix.netcom.com (tfx-us15-196.ix.netcom.com [207.94.236.196]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA05877; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 05:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by tfx-us15-196.ix.netcom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id EAA70349; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:21:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from asami) To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: Ben Smithurst , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? References: <39789037.C7B6B5B7@rtci.com> <397A6352.7D2C1B7E@cup.hp.com> <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000723122006.A85867@dragon.nuxi.com> From: asami@FreeBSD.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 24 Jul 2000 04:21:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:20:06 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: "David O'Brien" * StarOffice is a b*&%@ to do a port for. I think finding someone willing * to spend the time on it is the issue right now. FWIW, Sun announced they'd opensource StarOffice. Maybe we can fix the problems ourselves now. http://www.sun.com/staroffice/opensource Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 2:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F63C37B5A5 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 02:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF181C7BD for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:36:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:36:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Recommended compilation optimizations Message-ID: Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When doing a buildworld or buildkernel, what are the optimal compilation flags I can set for a system running Pentium Pro? Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 Public PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 5:25:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B06D37B547 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 05:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolpert@methodsystems.com) Received: (qmail 26796 invoked by alias); 24 Jul 2000 12:25:47 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-stable@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 26789 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2000 12:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osti.methodsystems.com) (63.227.49.195) by dnvrpop3.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 2000 12:25:47 -0000 Content-Length: 1453 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:25:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Edward Wolpert To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: USB ports on FreeBSD 4.1-RC Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Folks- I did a clean rebuild Sunday (July 23) morning MST, and everything seems to work great. However, I just noticed in the dmesg that my USB hub didn't come up as it usually does. Here's the specifics from dmesg... uhci0: port 0xfcc0-0xfcdf irq 9 at dev ice 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR ugen0: Connectix Corp. QuickCam, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2 (I don't use it, so I wasn't looking for it.) The lines saying that port 1 and port 2 power on failed are new, compared to 4.0-stable of about Jun 17. It did find the quickcam, so I don't know if the messages are meaningful. Virtually, | Open/Web Systems Architect Edward Wolpert | 4eb8 4e75 | "Java. It's not just for ___________________________________________/ breakfast anymore. " -anon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBOXw1y62tQW/xJRRFAQGC2gMAtyZ+pGZZOGRL4VOAiApsr4c9aOzGpfdd cIBjC/4NHqxdr6EB3q1vqlakJ4LYWw/zm9Xq9HBBXZJKD+kJrCTOc0EMR/YSyLkM 4SJqdAIiH73l7+Rp18IXUQZvjdHYgadW =RSFR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 5:37:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD6D37B860 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 05:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 83C369B03; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:37:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:37:34 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Bill Fumerola Cc: hdiwan@pobox.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Sat Jul 22 10:26:20 PDT 2000] problems Message-ID: <20000724133734.B830@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Bill Fumerola , hdiwan@pobox.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000722110819.A1118@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <20000722141326.G51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000722141326.G51462@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chimesnet.com on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 02:13:26PM -0400 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 02:13:26PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 11:08:19AM -0700, Hasan Diwan wrote: > > Two problems with sources from above date/time: > > 1) pcm will proclaim 'play timeout, channel dead' after playing one mp3 > > (This is confirmed with 7 or 8 different files). After this, /dev/dsp is > > mysteriously locked. lsof doesn't list what's got it, and revoke(2) > > can't unlock it. > > Try this: > > Index: channel.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v > retrieving revision 1.32 > diff -u -r1.32 channel.c > --- channel.c 2000/06/20 23:42:08 1.32 > +++ channel.c 2000/07/22 17:36:34 > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; > b->underflow = 0; > } else { > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ > + chn_dmaupdate(c); > } > } This fixed sound for me too, but now APM is hosed, i.e. the machine hangs after using sound on a suspend. This is under 5.0 but the problem is possibly present under 4.x also. genius% cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 18 2000 11:40:56 Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xfe000000, 0xfec00000 irq 9 (1p/1r channels duplex) genius% uname -a FreeBSD genius.systems.pavilion.net 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #86: Wed Jul 19 14:31:38 BST 2000 joe@genius.systems.pavilion.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENIUS i386 Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6: 1:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.gothworld.com (scully.gothworld.com [204.177.57.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BE237B8D5 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmo@scully.gothworld.com) Received: from localhost (asmo@localhost) by scully.gothworld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00164 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:56:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from asmo@scully.gothworld.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Make Installworld Error (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OOps! :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: freebsd-stable@feebsd.org Subject: Make Installworld Error (fwd) Hello all I have been having some major problems lately with FreeBSD 4.0, but it now seems its all been worked out. I just got finished a make buildworld, kernel build and install, AND a make installworld. So everything is sweet now, it seems all of these problems were user errors, possibly except for one fluke of make buildworld not building a boot2 file. But then again all I did this time that was different was uncomment CH flags and No profile=true in the make.conf. Im not sure if that would have made a difference, but SOMETHING did as I am up and running fine. To all the new people joining FreeBSD, Dont let this posts scare you. FreeBSD is a GOOD OS, its very different then windows and it IS worth the trouble. The immense joy of figuring out problems and fixing things out for yourself is a very rewarding feeling. Its not ready to be implemented for a full scale commercial market, but then again windows wasnt either when it was released. I guess what Im saying is its all about learning something new, so dont give up on it. Life is diffucult sometimes, but the rewars are well worth it. To all the perople that tried to help thank you! Kent, Jay, John, and everyone THANKS! Im up and running perfectlly! Justin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 01:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: asmo@bck.org Subject: Make Installworld Error Hello I just Cvsupped, Made buildworld, and installed the kernal rebooted and came up fine, I went to do an make installworld and it went fine for a good period of time, but then this message was spit out. ===> share/zoneinfo umask 022; cd /usr/src/share/zoneinfo; zic -d /usr/share/zoneinfo -p America/New_York -y /usr/obj/usr/src/share/zoneinfo/yearistype africa antarctica asia australasia etcetera europe factory northamerica southamerica systemv install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab /usr/share/zoneinfo/ chown -R root:wheel /usr/share/zoneinfo/* ===> sys ===> sys/boot ===> sys/boot/ficl ===> sys/boot/i386 ===> sys/boot/i386/mbr install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 mbr /boot ===> sys/boot/i386/boot0 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 boot0 /boot ===> sys/boot/i386/kgzldr install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 kgzldr.o /usr/lib ===> sys/boot/i386/btx ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/btx ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/btxldr ===> sys/boot/i386/btx/lib ===> sys/boot/i386/boot2 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 boot1 /boot/boot1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 boot2 /boot/boot2 install: boot2: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 As you can see I DO have a boot2 file, Does anyone know what could be wrong? scully# pwd /boot scully# ls -las total 751 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 . 1 drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:36 .. 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1024 Jul 24 01:41 boot0 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 boot1 8 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Jul 21 15:59 boot2 176 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 165888 Jul 21 15:59 cdboot 1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 21 15:59 defaults 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Jul 20 20:33 kernel.conf 168 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 163840 Jul 21 15:59 loader 10 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 9237 Jul 20 19:44 loader.4th 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 67 Jul 20 08:35 loader.conf 12 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12064 Jul 20 19:44 loader.help 168 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 163840 Jul 20 19:44 loader.old 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 338 Mar 20 16:30 loader.rc 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 mbr 176 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 165888 Jul 21 15:59 pxeboot 25 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 25121 Jul 20 19:44 support.4th Can I ignore this if no one knows how to fix it? Any help will be appreciated!! I will be monitoring the Newgroups for Solutions. Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6:19:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relativity.student.utwente.nl (wit389306.student.utwente.nl [130.89.234.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A2437B8FC for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl) Received: by relativity.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AFF8E5E1E; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:20:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:20:21 +0200 From: Dave Boers To: Dan Larsson Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Message-ID: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: djb@ifa.au.dk References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dl@tyfon.net on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:36:30AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:36:30AM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > When doing a buildworld or buildkernel, what are the optimal compilation > flags I can set for a system running Pentium Pro? -O -pipe AFAIK that's the only optimization that is more or less guaranteed to work. Regards, Dave Boers. -- .signapping: the unlawful act of capturing and carrying away a .sig against its will and holding it in false imprisonment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6:46:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C7237B97E; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA60742; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:46:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:46:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: sos@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am looking to verify support for the Intel 82801AA I/O Controller Hub present in the Intel i815 chipset before I purchase a board using said chipset. It appears to be exactly the same ICH chip used in the i810 which the CVS logs say has been supported since Mon Jan 17 2:04:17 2000 UTC. This is evidenced by the following URLs: http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/815/ http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/810/ This chipset is never specifically mentioned in CVS nor has it turned up in the mailing list archives of -questions, -stable, or -hardware. I just wanted to clarify support of it before making a purchasing decision and Cced the -stable list to make sure this made it into the archives for future inquiries. It would seem to be that the only possible problem would be that Intel has changed the PCI identifier between chipset revisions, but if that is so I can easily boot it from a SCSI hard drive, grab the new ID, and submit a patch to ata-all.c's ata_pci_match(). Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6:52:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jktsm02.indosat.net.id (jktsm02.indosat.net.id [202.155.50.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5465A37B842 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@bsd.mrican.web.id) Received: from bsd.mrican.web.id ([202.155.16.72]) by jktsm02.indosat.net.id (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 730f8eb5c6a4977202bec32590427e0f) with ESMTP id <20000724134951.XEKX1365.jktsm02@bsd.mrican.web.id> for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:49:51 +0700 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by bsd.mrican.web.id (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22133 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:12:46 +0700 (JAVT) (envelope-from andy@bsd.mrican.web.id) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:12:45 +0700 (JAVT) From: Andy To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: build error on /usr/src/release/sysinstall. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi ppl i got error while building sysinstall i just cvsuped 12 hours ago :) any pointers are welcome thankyou bsd# make all Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release/sysinstall cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys -c kget.c kget.c:40: machine/uc_device.h: No such file or directory kget.c: In function `kget': kget.c:83: sizeof applied to an incomplete type kget.c:85: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:86: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:89: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:90: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:92: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:92: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type --cut- lotsa dereferencing pointer error.... kget.c:111: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type kget.c:113: sizeof applied to an incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release/sysinstall. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6:53: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipe.cnpm.embrapa.br (ipe.cnpm.embrapa.br [200.136.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E0F37B842 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pan@cnpm.embrapa.br) Received: from inga.cnpm.embrapa.br (inga.cnpm.embrapa.br [200.136.111.23]) by ipe.cnpm.embrapa.br (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e6ODqSk43793 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:52:30 -0300 (EST) Received: (from pan@localhost) by inga.cnpm.embrapa.br (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6ODqPf76032 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:52:25 -0300 (BRT) From: "Carlos F. A. Paniago" Message-Id: <200007241352.e6ODqPf76032@inga.cnpm.embrapa.br> Subject: CMI8330 sound and stable 4.1-RC To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:52:25 -0300 (BRT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a box running stable 4.1-RC and this box is a SIS motherboard, with the CMI8330 chipset. This chipset have two sound cards. The first one is found in the mss driver and is working ok. The Second one (a soundblaster clone), we have to change in /sys/dev/sound/isa/sbc.c line 218: {0x01100000, "Avance Asound 110"}, /* @@@1001 */ + {0x01000003, "CMI8330"}, /* @X@0001 */ {0x01200000, "Avance Logic ALS120"}, /* @@@2001 - ViBRA16X cl one */ Then it will find the sound blaster (the second sound: In the Ruindows environment one of then is for recording and the other to send out the sound). We have to adapt the module: /sys/isa/joy.c in line 103: {0x0101630e, "CSC0101 PnP Joystick"}, /* CSC0101 */ + {0x01000002, "CMI8330 PnP Joystick"}, /* @P@0001 */ {0x01100002, "ALS0110 PnP Joystick"}, /* @P@1001 */ In this case only the midi stuff (that is the device number 0x01000001, with port 0x301 and irq 9 is not found in the boot). Thanks for supporting this kind of motherboard that is very popular in Brazil... Paniago -- Carlos Fernando Assis Paniago - pan@cnpm.embrapa.br Embrapa - Monitoramento por Satelite - Campinas, SP, Brasil http://www.cnpm.embrapa.br/cur/pan.html - Fone: +55 (19) 252-5977 -- Atencao:: Observe que a partir do dia 27/04/2000 mudamos de endereco de nma.embrapa.br para cnpm.embrapa.br, por favor arrume seus apontadores To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6:53:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2109237B842 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA60787; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:52:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Tim Zingelman Cc: John Baldwin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall resetting USA_RESIDENT=NO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Tim Zingelman wrote: >Or as Jordan just suggested, cut it out entirely. Probably a good idea in light of the recent export relaxations. Come September there will be no reason left for FreeBSD to care whether users are residents of the US. In the meantime we can put a note in the handbook's install section about setting USA_RESIDENT after install. In a few months, it can be removed. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 6:58:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CB337B842 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 06:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA60834; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:58:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:58:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: duhring Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, duhring wrote: >Don't really need plugins anyway. After you visit a few of the sites which >transmit realaudio streams, their locations are saved under FILE in >realplayer. Just click on FILE the click on your favorite station. Damn, xntpd Or you can configure a mime type in netscape for *.rm/*.ram and not worry about plugins. >just sent a bunch of crap to the console, hope it doesn't show up here. Hit ^L when that happens. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7: 0:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF7A37B842 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA18587; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:59:32 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26515; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:55:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007241355.JAA26515@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: Doug White , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000724081052.A87673@curry.mchp.siemens.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, Andre Albsmeier wrote: = > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some = > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, = > => though)? Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be = > => compatible with other OSes", if there will never be any other = > => OSes? = > = = > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get = > =really, really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. = > = > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just = > lucky... = = You are lucky. Try some Siemens crap with their Phoenix BIOS. They = simply say "Read error" if you wanted to use dangerously dedicated = mode. I have been bitten by this a lot of times. Well, I'm all for support for those unfortunate among us, who have to deal with crappy hardware. Just don't force the rest to it... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7: 0:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C156737B9A7 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA18587; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:59:32 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26515; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:55:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007241355.JAA26515@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: Doug White , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000724081052.A87673@curry.mchp.siemens.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, Andre Albsmeier wrote: = > => Wait! Smarter then what? So it can boot NT and Win98 for some = > => weenies, or, actually do something useful (not sure what, = > => though)? Why am I to waste space (even so little) "to be = > => compatible with other OSes", if there will never be any other = > => OSes? = > = = > =So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get = > =really, really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. = > = > I'm yet to see a BIOS, for which this is true. May be, I'm just = > lucky... = = You are lucky. Try some Siemens crap with their Phoenix BIOS. They = simply say "Read error" if you wanted to use dangerously dedicated = mode. I have been bitten by this a lot of times. Well, I'm all for support for those unfortunate among us, who have to deal with crappy hardware. Just don't force the rest to it... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7: 8:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838A037BA0C for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA18813; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:07:18 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26602; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:03:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007241403.KAA26602@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations To: djb@ifa.au.dk Cc: Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List In-Reply-To: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, Dave Boers wrote: = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:36:30AM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: = > When doing a buildworld or buildkernel, what are the optimal = > compilation flags I can set for a system running Pentium Pro? = = -O -pipe = = AFAIK that's the only optimization that is more or less guaranteed to = work. I've seen '-fexpensive-optimizations' break havoc in the squid binary, so I no longer use it for anything, but '-mcpu=i686 -march=i686' seems fine to me and tells the compiler that your only target processor is of the 686 class. If you are not planning to debug the thing, add '-fomit-frame-pointer'. -mi (who gets annoyed every once in a while when he sees people discouraging optimization as dangerous instead of fixing the compiler) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7:40: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FD237B914; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6OEaFd32570; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running FreeBSD 4.-STABLE on a Compaq iPaq P3-500, which is based on the i810 chipset. The only problem that may still be an issue is getting XFree86 4.0 to work with the integrated video chipset in the i810. Mind you, this may have changed since the last time I asked some people on the list. Also remember that there is also an i815e, which has the newer ICH-2 with ATA/100, integrated Intel networking (?) for the CNR slot, and some other newer features. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > I am looking to verify support for the Intel 82801AA I/O Controller Hub > present in the Intel i815 chipset before I purchase a board using said > chipset. It appears to be exactly the same ICH chip used in the i810 > which the CVS logs say has been supported since Mon Jan 17 2:04:17 2000 > UTC. This is evidenced by the following URLs: > > http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/815/ > http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/810/ > > This chipset is never specifically mentioned in CVS nor has it turned up > in the mailing list archives of -questions, -stable, or -hardware. I > just wanted to clarify support of it before making a purchasing decision > and Cced the -stable list to make sure this made it into the archives > for future inquiries. > > It would seem to be that the only possible problem would be that Intel > has changed the PCI identifier between chipset revisions, but if that is > so I can easily boot it from a SCSI hard drive, grab the new ID, and > submit a patch to ata-all.c's ata_pci_match(). > > Brandon D. Valentine > -- > bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu > "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7:43:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47F137B719 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA74794; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:43:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200007241443.QAA74794@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: divert + keep-state In-Reply-To: from "noor@comrax.com" at "Jul 23, 2000 01:24:48 am" To: noor@comrax.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:43:54 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, you should only use 'keep-state' with "setup" TCP packets, and with UDP. Yes you can have a bit more security but setting up the firewall is a bit trickier. cheers luigi > Hi all, > > I have a FreeBSD box with two NIC's that I use to link our internal > network to the outside network. I use ipfw+natd to do this. The following > is the divert rule: > > add divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1 > > xl1 is the outer NIC. My question is: can I do the following: > > add check-state > add divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl1 keep-state > > I am trying to keep-state for diverted packets. Is this a better secured > way to divert packets (if it works really), or the first should do it? > > Thanks, > Noor > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7:45:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937CF37B914; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:45:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC00E896; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA88252; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:45:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14716.22129.225312.801780@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:45:05 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: <39789037.C7B6B5B7@rtci.com> <397A6352.7D2C1B7E@cup.hp.com> <20000723143217.V64132@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <20000723122006.A85867@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "S" == Satoshi writes: S> * From: "David O'Brien" S> * StarOffice is a b*&%@ to do a port for. I think finding someone willing S> * to spend the time on it is the issue right now. S> FWIW, Sun announced they'd opensource StarOffice. Maybe we can fix S> the problems ourselves now. Not until Friday, October 13, when SO 6.0 is released under GPL. That was the official announcement last Wednesday. But has anyone gotten SO 5.2 to install on FreeBSD 3.5? Running their installer keeps failing, and unzip (latest one from ports) doesn't extract everything necessary to run the setup program). -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 7:51:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CFE37BA78; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:51:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA61224; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Linh Pham Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > >I'm running FreeBSD 4.-STABLE on a Compaq iPaq P3-500, which is based on >the i810 chipset. The only problem that may still be an issue is getting >XFree86 4.0 to work with the integrated video chipset in the i810. Mind >you, this may have changed since the last time I asked some people on the >list. > >Also remember that there is also an i815e, which has the newer ICH-2 with >ATA/100, integrated Intel networking (?) for the CNR slot, and some other >newer features. Yes, thank you for bringing that up. There is only about a $20 price difference between boards using i815 and i815e w/ ICH and ICH2 respectively. The video is not a concern for me, I'm really just looking for a good replacement board for cheap PC servers since the BX boards are getting harder to find. The i815 boards look good because they have, for the most part, plenty of PCI slots and appear far more stable than the i820. I was going to choose the i815 over the i815e simply because the ICH is already supported and I can't antipicate how far off ICH2 support is under Soren's ata driver, nor is it that important to me. The only new feature the ICH2 appears to have is ATA100 and I have yet to see a pair of drives on one ide channel which can approach the capacity of ATA66, let alone ATA100. Other than that it's all the same, you can even get standard i815 boards with CNR on them. BTW, is anybody using CNR and reading this list? Does it behave like a normal PCI device and does the stock fxp driver support the drop-in Intel NICs? Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8: 4:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F6F37BAAB; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA92300; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:03:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200007241503.RAA92300@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: from "Brandon D. Valentine" at "Jul 24, 2000 10:51:35 am" To: bandix@looksharp.net (Brandon D. Valentine) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Cc: lplist@q.closedsrc.org (Linh Pham), sos@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > Yes, thank you for bringing that up. There is only about a $20 price > difference between boards using i815 and i815e w/ ICH and ICH2 > respectively. The video is not a concern for me, I'm really just > looking for a good replacement board for cheap PC servers since the BX > boards are getting harder to find. The i815 boards look good because > they have, for the most part, plenty of PCI slots and appear far more > stable than the i820. I was going to choose the i815 over the i815e > simply because the ICH is already supported and I can't antipicate how > far off ICH2 support is under Soren's ata driver, nor is it that > important to me. Support for the ICH2 should be pretty trivial, as soon as I get my hands on either a board, or a willing/capable tester it should be easy to get into shape. > The only new feature the ICH2 appears to have is > ATA100 and I have yet to see a pair of drives on one ide channel which > can approach the capacity of ATA66, let alone ATA100. Other than that Well the new IBM DTLA drives does 37MB/s so things are getting narrow, but if you want top performance you only want one drive on each channel, and in that case it doesn't matter much... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8: 4:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8617537BAB1; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA92300; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:03:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200007241503.RAA92300@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: from "Brandon D. Valentine" at "Jul 24, 2000 10:51:35 am" To: bandix@looksharp.net (Brandon D. Valentine) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Cc: lplist@q.closedsrc.org (Linh Pham), sos@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > Yes, thank you for bringing that up. There is only about a $20 price > difference between boards using i815 and i815e w/ ICH and ICH2 > respectively. The video is not a concern for me, I'm really just > looking for a good replacement board for cheap PC servers since the BX > boards are getting harder to find. The i815 boards look good because > they have, for the most part, plenty of PCI slots and appear far more > stable than the i820. I was going to choose the i815 over the i815e > simply because the ICH is already supported and I can't antipicate how > far off ICH2 support is under Soren's ata driver, nor is it that > important to me. Support for the ICH2 should be pretty trivial, as soon as I get my hands on either a board, or a willing/capable tester it should be easy to get into shape. > The only new feature the ICH2 appears to have is > ATA100 and I have yet to see a pair of drives on one ide channel which > can approach the capacity of ATA66, let alone ATA100. Other than that Well the new IBM DTLA drives does 37MB/s so things are getting narrow, but if you want top performance you only want one drive on each channel, and in that case it doesn't matter much... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8:20:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4941837BAC9 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA38E8D3 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA88583; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14716.24230.83240.35612@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:20:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.1-RC In-Reply-To: <003101bff2e5$f343c280$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> References: <003101bff2e5$f343c280$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "NT" == Nader Turki writes: NT> Will my server be much faster if i add another PII400MHz? NT> I mean to have a Dual PII 400 MHz Processors! NT> Will I be able to tell the difference? It depends entirely on what you do with your computer. If you're main workload is disk-bound, then no, you most likely won't notice anything. If you're running large CPU jobs, then you might notice, depending on how many such jobs you have. You'd be better off figuring out which resource your machine is short on, and add that resource (usually memory does the trick.) -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8:20:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFCB37B61B; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:20:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA61435; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:19:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Linh Pham , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: <200007241503.RAA92300@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: >Support for the ICH2 should be pretty trivial, as soon as I get my hands >on either a board, or a willing/capable tester it should be easy to >get into shape. Well I'm fixing to buy two boards to build new FreeBSD servers. They should be booting off of 4.5GB SCSI UW HDDs and one of them will have a 4 channel 3Ware IDE RAID card in it(you rock msmith!). At this point I think I have decided not to use the onboard IDE channels, so it wouldn't hurt to get the ICH2 boards anyway if you're planning on supporting them in the future. Perhaps if I did that I could at least give you access to the hardware, even if it isn't in use. I might even be able to scare up a hard drive to attach to it, if we're lucky. I just can't have those machines going up and down all the time so I won't be able to do much testing for ya. If you're interested in at least some hardware dumps on the controller, let me know and I'll send them your way when I get the board in. >> The only new feature the ICH2 appears to have is >> ATA100 and I have yet to see a pair of drives on one ide channel which >> can approach the capacity of ATA66, let alone ATA100. Other than that > >Well the new IBM DTLA drives does 37MB/s so things are getting narrow, >but if you want top performance you only want one drive on each >channel, and in that case it doesn't matter much... Touche. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8:25:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE2D37BB2C for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09F21292D; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:24:10 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id QAA09055; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:24:10 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11850; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:26:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:26:39 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: Graham Wheeler Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! Message-ID: <20000724162639.A11618@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <6390.964219824@localhost> <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com>; from gram@cequrux.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:05:55AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:05:55AM +0200, Graham Wheeler wrote: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > I'm almost tempted to declare this a show-stopper for FreeBSD 4.1. > > Is anyone else even able to reproduce this? > > As you know, Jordan, I have had this problem in a bad way since 4.0-R > (currently running a 3 week old stablesnapshot). I made those terrible > kludges to the driver that I sent you, which are definitely not a real > solution. However, my mouse is now completely usable with these hacks. I > suspect though, that the problem may be in the kbd driver, if only > because I sometimes (quite infrequently, but even so) have my keyboard > going screwy too, usually manifesting as the Enter key being remapped to > (for example) backspace or scroll lock. In case this is useful info ? I've got two perfectly okay systems with ps/2 logitech mice. So, is there any chance it's X related. (i.e. PS/2 protocol instead of sysmouse) or maybe it is limited to four or more button devices ? Both systems run "moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto". Work system : 4.1-RC (from last Thursday/Friday) with logitech mouseman (Model M-S43) (from dmesg) psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 (from XF86Config) Section "Pointer" Protocol "SysMouse" Device "/dev/mouse" Resolution 200 Buttons 3 EndSection Home system : 4.0-RELEASE with logitech mouseman (quite old - don't know model) psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 Section "Pointer" Protocol "SysMouse" Device "/dev/mouse" Resolution 100 Buttons 3 EndSection On both systems /dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/sysmouse, and both work fine, with X 3.3.6, and I didn't have problems witht the mouse with XF86 4.0 either, but I didn't stick with that for other reasons. Don't know if this information is of any help though. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8:36:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ahab.com (gw1-75ml.themediatc.com [204.143.179.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915AE37B90E for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:36:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moxie@ahab.com) Received: (from moxie@localhost) by ahab.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00551; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:36:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from moxie) From: Jason T Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 16:36:15 -0400 To: Philippe Le Berre Cc: Noor Dawod , "Chris D. Faulhaber" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1 RC locked-up with MySql 3.22.32 and 3.23.21b Message-ID: <20000721163614.A283@sseye.ahab.com> Mail-Followup-To: Philippe Le Berre , Noor Dawod , "Chris D. Faulhaber" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000720122927.00c32cd0@212.129.1.43> <4.3.2.7.2.20000721081753.00c4bbe0@212.129.1.43> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000721081753.00c4bbe0@212.129.1.43>; from philippe@le-berre.com on Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 08:22:51AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm... I'm still not convinced... I have used MySQL from .22 up to .32 and I have experienced periodic (about once a month, strangely) signal 11s on all of them, both on solaris and freebsd. I finally resorted to restarting mysql in the dead of night, and since then (.32, freebsd-3.4-stable), it's been just fine... The crashes always happened under low load in the wee hours. Not like I tried a debugger or anything... On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 08:22:51AM -0700, Philippe Le Berre wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the info, I eventually found out the issue. I had the server > kernel build with maxuser at 64, reducing that to 32 has somehow disable > the 88% cpu limitation on the process and therefore I was able to > successfully run the full MySQL test suite. However, how comes that on > FreeBSD the MySQL test suite pushes so hard on CPU? I have never seen that > with other O/S. And the code that kills a process reaching the CPU limits > is buggy because it does provoke a server locked-up (no even a panic, just > a big cold freeze on the box). > > Regards, > > -philippe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ------------------------- Jason Thaxter Flashlight Media jason@flashlightmedia.com www.flashlightmedia.com ------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8:37: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5626B37B703 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA22979; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:34:09 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 22892; Mon Jul 24 17:33:55 2000 Message-ID: <397C62BD.3BFB9BC@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:37:33 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Roome Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <6390.964219824@localhost> <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> <20000724162639.A11618@moose.bri.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Roome wrote: > > I've got two perfectly okay systems with ps/2 logitech mice. So, is > there any chance it's X related. (i.e. PS/2 protocol instead of > sysmouse) or maybe it is limited to four or more button devices ? Neither - I have had it with a two button touchpad running moused but not running X. gram. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 8:46:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF3137B703 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13GkQq-0007Yh-00; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:46:16 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06771; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:43:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:43:25 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Edward Wolpert Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB ports on FreeBSD 4.1-RC Message-ID: <20000724174325.D6683@freebie.demon.nl> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from wolpert@methodsystems.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 06:25:47AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 06:25:47AM -0600, Edward Wolpert wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Folks- > > I did a clean rebuild Sunday (July 23) morning MST, and everything seems to > work great. However, I just noticed in the dmesg that my USB hub didn't > come up as it usually does. Here's the specifics from dmesg... > > uhci0: port 0xfcc0-0xfcdf irq 9 at dev > ice 7.2 on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR > uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR > ugen0: Connectix Corp. QuickCam, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2 > > (I don't use it, so I wasn't looking for it.) The lines saying that port 1 > and port 2 power on failed are new, compared to 4.0-stable of about Jun 17. > It did find the quickcam, so I don't know if the messages are meaningful. > FWIW: pci0: at 7.1 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 7 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR uhci1: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 7 at device 7.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR uhub1: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xdc00-0xdc3f irq 14 at device 9.0 on pci0 This is an Abit KA7. I don't have any USB kit to connect to it, but the last time we tried a Kodak DC280 dig camera it worked just fine. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 9: 6:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grey.cloud.rain.com (c1029014-a.bvrtn1.or.home.com [24.12.160.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF7137BA23 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:06:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 3493 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2000 16:06:05 -0000 Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO cloud.rain.com) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2000 16:06:05 -0000 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-RC2 breaks gnumeric package: Shared object "libqthreads.so.0" not found MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3489.964454765.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:06:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3490.964454765@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The upgrade broke the package, so I ripped out the package (and all its dependencies, and all their dependents, and all *their* dependencies...there's gotta be an easier way) and reinstalled it -- no joy. Libqthreads still not found. Ugh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 9:34:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2040C37BCB2 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA47678; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007241634.JAA47678@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: build error on /usr/src/release/sysinstall. In-Reply-To: from Andy at "Jul 18, 2000 06:12:45 pm" To: Andy Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy wrote: > hi ppl > i got error while building sysinstall > i just cvsuped 12 hours ago :) > > any pointers are welcome > thankyou Your sources are out of date with your world. Use buildworld/installworld to update your world and then build sysinstall. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 9:36:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front4.grolier.fr (front4.grolier.fr [194.158.96.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A2637B56A for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robai@club-internet.fr) Received: from hept.hop.fr (nas3-238.nts.club-internet.fr [195.36.201.238]) by front4.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id SAA25280 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:36:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by hept.hop.fr (Postfix, from userid 502) id 6D67339CF; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:30:16 +0200 (CEST) To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-URL: file://localhost/usr/home/rb/world.html.gz X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.8.3dev.8 Subject: subscribe Message-Id: <20000724163016.6D67339CF@hept.hop.fr> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:30:16 +0200 (CEST) From: robai@club-internet.fr (Romain Bailly) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUB FreeBSD-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 9:40: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC71637B580 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23215; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007241649.JAA23215@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:51:35 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:49:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Other than that > it's all the same, you can even get standard i815 boards with CNR on > them. BTW, is anybody using CNR and reading this list? Does it behave > like a normal PCI device and does the stock fxp driver support the > drop-in Intel NICs? If you're asking about the built-in NIC in the ICH2 - no. Bill Paul and I looked at the datasheet, and it's going to require a new driver. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 9:53: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0D737B6AF; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA62353; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:53:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:53:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: <200007241649.JAA23215@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Mike Smith wrote: >> Other than that >> it's all the same, you can even get standard i815 boards with CNR on >> them. BTW, is anybody using CNR and reading this list? Does it behave >> like a normal PCI device and does the stock fxp driver support the >> drop-in Intel NICs? > >If you're asking about the built-in NIC in the ICH2 - no. Bill Paul and >I looked at the datasheet, and it's going to require a new driver. I suppose that is what I'm asking about, Intel's marketing hype is so unclear on just what it is. If it's not supported it doesn't bother me, as it looks like on most motherboards it won't save a PCI slot anyway, it looks shared just like they do with ISA stuff. Better to use the slot for a real NIC. BTW Mike, your work on the Adaptec RAID stuff looks impressive. I can't believe Adaptec finally caved and released specs on their raid controllers, it's great! Is there any chance that those zero channel raid add-ons like the ARO-1130 from Adaptec or Express 000 from AMI will ever be supported? I don't know how those things are implemented, but if they were supported I could add RAID to about half of my motherboards cheaply. =P Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10: 7:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2A537BCF6 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA49181; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007241707.KAA49181@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <200007241403.KAA26602@misha.privatelabs.com> from "mi@aldan.algebra.com" at "Jul 24, 2000 10:03:40 am" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > On 24 Jul, Dave Boers wrote: > = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:36:30AM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > = > When doing a buildworld or buildkernel, what are the optimal > = > compilation flags I can set for a system running Pentium Pro? > = > = -O -pipe > = > = AFAIK that's the only optimization that is more or less guaranteed to > = work. > > I've seen '-fexpensive-optimizations' break havoc in the squid binary, > so I no longer use it for anything, but '-mcpu=i686 -march=i686' seems > fine to me and tells the compiler that your only target processor is of > the 686 class. If you are not planning to debug the thing, add > '-fomit-frame-pointer'. > > -mi (who gets annoyed every once in a while when he sees > people discouraging optimization as dangerous instead of > fixing the compiler) Uh, have you actually _looked_ at the gcc source? Making such a statement is rather arrogant if you aren't willing to put some work into the compiler yourself. gcc is not an easy program to fix, it is rather large and complex. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:22:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9749A37B870; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e6OHIoP32867; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The CNR is supposedly a special port (neither PCI or ISA) that has a pipe directly into the chipset and uses the chipset as a ``gateway'' for I/O. I'm not sure how resources are allocated for those devices, but I definitely agree that there is nothing better than a good, reliable and non-cheapo Ethernet PCI card. // Linh Pham // // Proud supporter of FreeBSD and OpenBSD // FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org // OpenBSD - http://www.openbsd.org /* "Oregon, n.: Eighty billion gallons of water with no place to go on Saturday night." */ On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > >> Other than that > >> it's all the same, you can even get standard i815 boards with CNR on > >> them. BTW, is anybody using CNR and reading this list? Does it behave > >> like a normal PCI device and does the stock fxp driver support the > >> drop-in Intel NICs? > > > >If you're asking about the built-in NIC in the ICH2 - no. Bill Paul and > >I looked at the datasheet, and it's going to require a new driver. > > I suppose that is what I'm asking about, Intel's marketing hype is so > unclear on just what it is. If it's not supported it doesn't bother me, > as it looks like on most motherboards it won't save a PCI slot anyway, > it looks shared just like they do with ISA stuff. Better to use the > slot for a real NIC. > > BTW Mike, your work on the Adaptec RAID stuff looks impressive. I can't > believe Adaptec finally caved and released specs on their raid > controllers, it's great! Is there any chance that those zero channel > raid add-ons like the ARO-1130 from Adaptec or Express 000 from AMI will > ever be supported? I don't know how those things are implemented, but > if they were supported I could add RAID to about half of my motherboards > cheaply. =P > > Brandon D. Valentine > -- > bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu > "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:24:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-51.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DC537BA98 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23457; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007241733.KAA23457@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel i815 w/ ICH using ata driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:53:16 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:33:54 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > BTW Mike, your work on the Adaptec RAID stuff looks impressive. I can't > believe Adaptec finally caved and released specs on their raid > controllers, it's great! Thank Justin; it was his work that achieved this. > Is there any chance that those zero channel > raid add-ons like the ARO-1130 from Adaptec or Express 000 from AMI will > ever be supported? I don't know how those things are implemented, but > if they were supported I could add RAID to about half of my motherboards > cheaply. =P The ARO-1130 is just a checksum accelerator; forget it. The Express 000 and the Mylex AcceleRAID 200 _should_ both "just work". They have issues with the Windows NCR driver, but the sym driver is known to be friendly and should "play nice". -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:25:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CC137B8C5; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25910; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Graham Wheeler Cc: kazu@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:05:55 +0200." <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:25:24 -0700 Message-ID: <25907.964459524@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As you know, Jordan, I have had this problem in a bad way since 4.0-R > (currently running a 3 week old stablesnapshot). I made those terrible > kludges to the driver that I sent you, which are definitely not a real > solution. However, my mouse is now completely usable with these hacks. I Hmmmm. That's no good. I also have to profess that the hacks didn't *completely* solve the problem for me either - it worked great for 24 hours and then, as such Murphyesque bugs like to do, started misbehaving again (though to far less significant effect) the next day. Now when my mouse dies, it dies more or less completely and I need to switch from X to a VTY and then return. That operation seems to clear things up, though I know not why. I suspect the problem is something far more mysterious in the interaction between another driver (like syscons?) and the psm driver, or perhaps it has nothing to do with either and it's a seemingly unrelated change in an entirely different section of the kernel. I don't envy Kazu for what it's probably going to take to fix this at all. ;-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:28: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC3937BBF1; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25922; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Graham Wheeler Cc: kazu@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:05:55 +0200." <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:27:32 -0700 Message-ID: <25919.964459652@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG P.S. In case I failed to make such clear by inference, I'm more than willing to do whatever I can in helping Kazu track this down. I'm also interested in testing any solution he might be able to come up with as an 11th-hour fix to -stable which enables 4.1-RELEASE to be an enjoyable experience for us both. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:33:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC6E37BB31 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA21941; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:32:41 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA34094; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:29:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007241729.NAA34094@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:29:11 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations To: John Baldwin Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200007241707.KAA49181@pike.osd.bsdi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, John Baldwin wrote: = > = -O -pipe = > = = > = AFAIK that's the only optimization that is more or less guaranteed = > = to work. = > = > I've seen '-fexpensive-optimizations' break havoc in the squid = > binary, so I no longer use it for anything, but '-mcpu=i686 = > -march=i686' seems fine to me and tells the compiler that your only = > target processor is of the 686 class. If you are not planning to = > debug the thing, add '-fomit-frame-pointer'. = > = > -mi (who gets annoyed every once in a while when he sees = > people discouraging optimization as dangerous instead of = > fixing the compiler) = = Uh, have you actually _looked_ at the gcc source? Making such a = statement is rather arrogant if you aren't willing to put some work = into the compiler yourself. gcc is not an easy program to fix, it is = rather large and complex. I was not blaming you, neccessarily. As for me, I did file a few PRs with FreeBSD and/or with GCC people, providing the exact C-code, that breaks and more details. I think, it is important for everyone bitten by some brokennes of some aggressive optimization in GCC to investigate and file the bug reports... This is actually, true about any brokenness :) In the above mentioned case of squid, the reduced C-code snippet, that continued to brake on FreeBSD was compiled properly on Mandrake (by the same version of EGCS), so it looks like a FreeBSD-specific problem. Instead of encouraging bug-reports, the attitude has so far been: "well, if you use high optimization -- you are on your own", as exemplified in the follow-up to my i386/19245 . As a result, at least, in this example, the same thing works on Linux, that does not on FreeBSD. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:47:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEF937B62A for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA63172; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:46:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:46:44 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: John Baldwin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Message-ID: <20000724104644.A63144@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200007241707.KAA49181@pike.osd.bsdi.com> <200007241729.NAA34094@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007241729.NAA34094@misha.privatelabs.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:29:11PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:29:11PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > Instead of encouraging bug-reports, the attitude has so far been: "well, > if you use high optimization -- you are on your own", But reports are of course welcomed. The attituded is for those that want working binaries vs. setting up an environment to test bugs. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:48: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pacex.net (dns1.pacex.net [209.189.111.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0EDB37B969 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@pacex.net) Received: (qmail 47867 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Jul 2000 17:47:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:47:55 -0700 From: net admin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4-STABLE buildworld bombs on telnetd..lcrypto Message-ID: <20000724104755.A47843@almazs.pacex.net> Reply-To: admin@pacex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: q Content-Disposition: inline Hi Folks; I am going nowhere with this... just did a fresh CVS yesterday for src-all which also includes crypto and the only things that I am not building are sendmail/X11/openSSH/openSSL (marked out in make.conf) I am using 4.1-stable make.conf and stable-supfile. But buildworld always fails when building /secure/libexec/telnetd /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot fine lcrypto crypto source are there why this particular file is missing I have no clue! Please also see the attached buildworld error log file Thanks Dan --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="buildworld2.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D=3D=3D> secure/lib/libtelnet=0D =3D=3D=3D> secure/libexec=0D =3D=3D=3D> secure/libexec/telnetd=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/global.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/slc.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/state.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/sys_term.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/telnetd.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/termstat.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/utility.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec= ure/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet/telnetd/authenc.c=0D cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK= -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../../= crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o telnetd glo= bal.o slc.o state.o sys_term.o telnetd.o termstat.o utility.o authenc.o -l= util -ltermcap -L/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelne= t -ltelnet -lcrypto -lcrypt -lmp=0D /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lcrypto=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/src/secure/libexec.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/src/secure.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/src.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/src.=0D *** Error code 1=0D =0D Stop in /usr/src.=0D almazs# vi .cshrc=0D=0D =1B[m=1B[H=1B[J=1B[B~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~= =1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B= [B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[B=08~=1B[H= =1B[25d.cshrc: new file: line 1=1B[H=07=1B[25d:=1B[Kq1=0D=1B[7mUsage: q[uit= ][!]=0D=1B[m=1B[25;17H=1B[7m.=1B[H=1B[m=07=1B[25d:=1B[Kq!=0D=1B[S=1B[25;1H= =0Dalmazs# ls=08=1B[K=08=1B[K=07pwd=0D=0D /usr/src=0D almazs# exit=0D=0D exit=0D Script done on Mon Jul 24 09:37:15 2000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:55:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pacex.net (dns1.pacex.net [209.189.111.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E9E937BA2A for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@pacex.net) Received: (qmail 47960 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Jul 2000 17:55:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:55:45 -0700 From: net admin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: I AM SORRY SORRY !!! FOR THE MAIL BOMBS Message-ID: <20000724105545.A47890@almazs.pacex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MAIL BOMBS regarding 4-STABLE buildworld and telnetd. It seems mutt was brocken after the upgrade and all postponed messages I had in the buffer were sent when mutt was fixed causing a mail flood coming to the list sorry again. Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 10:59:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.cs.ucla.edu (Mailman.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.128.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D007837B89A for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottm@CS.UCLA.EDU) Received: from rdwarrior.cs.ucla.edu (rdwarrior.cs.ucla.edu [131.179.192.88]) by mailman.cs.ucla.edu (8.9.1/UCLACS-5.0) with ESMTP id KAA29453 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:59:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "B. Scott Michel" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: CVS 'pserver' brokeness? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone encountered this breakage yet? % setenv CVSROOT :pserver:scottm@mumble.cs.ucla.edu:/mumble/mumble/mumble % cvs login (Logging in to scottm@mumble.cs.ucla.edu) CVS password: % cvs co project Fatal error, aborting. : no such user cvs [checkout aborted]: authorization failed: server mumble.cs.ucla.edu rejected access I thought it might be something inane, like hosts.allow, but that doesn't appear to be the problem. Anyone got positive cluon flux density on this? -scooter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 11:26:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relativity.student.utwente.nl (wit389306.student.utwente.nl [130.89.234.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6427E37BC2A for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:26:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl) Received: by relativity.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E2E55E1E; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:27:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:27:12 +0200 From: Dave Boers To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Message-ID: <20000724202712.A62709@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: djb@ifa.au.dk References: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> <200007241403.KAA26602@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200007241403.KAA26602@misha.privatelabs.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:03:40AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:03:40AM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > I've seen '-fexpensive-optimizations' break havoc in the squid binary, > so I no longer use it for anything, but '-mcpu=i686 -march=i686' seems > fine to me and tells the compiler that your only target processor is of > the 686 class. If you are not planning to debug the thing, add > '-fomit-frame-pointer'. You appear to be right. I just verified dat my 4.1-stable indeed builds fine with -mcpu=686 and -march=i686 (on SMP dual Celeron). > -mi (who gets annoyed every once in a while when he sees > people discouraging optimization as dangerous instead of > fixing the compiler) Don't get annoyed. Get even :-) Dave Boers. -- .signapping: the unlawful act of capturing and carrying away a .sig against its will and holding it in false imprisonment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 11:29:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA3B37BBBF for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA63165; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:29:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:29:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: net admin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I AM SORRY SORRY !!! FOR THE MAIL BOMBS In-Reply-To: <20000724105545.A47890@almazs.pacex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, net admin wrote: > I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MAIL BOMBS regarding 4-STABLE buildworld and telnetd. >It seems mutt was brocken after the upgrade and all postponed messages I had in the buffer were sent when mutt was fixed causing a mail flood coming to the list sorry again. I recommend you don't apologize in all caps. While it did provide me with a few brief moments of entertainment, it will not endear you to the community. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 11:32:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB3337BBBE for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@ISI.EDU) Received: from isi.edu (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25511; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397C8BA8.12E3137A@isi.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:32:08 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations References: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dave Boers wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:36:30AM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > > When doing a buildworld or buildkernel, what are the optimal compilation > > flags I can set for a system running Pentium Pro? > > -O -pipe > > AFAIK that's the only optimization that is more or less guaranteed to work. I've used these in make.conf for a while with no problems, but your mileage may vary: CFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -funroll-loops -march=pentiumprp COPTFLAGS=-O3 -pipe -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-builtin -march=pentiumpro CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized -- Lars Eggert Information Sciences Institute http://www.isi.edu/larse/ University of Southern California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 11:45: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378A37B584 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14420; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:44:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007241844.LAA14420@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007231444.QAA94743@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> from "Patrick M. Hausen" at "Jul 23, 0 04:44:56 pm" To: hausen@punkt.de (Patrick M. Hausen) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:44:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. I agree. Which is not to say there aren't some =broken= BIOSs out there. Earlier Compaq systems wouldn't boot unless the disk had a special signature in the boot records (probably a cheezy way to force you to buy replacement disks from Compaq. Newer Compaqs no longer refuse to boot, but the BIOS does have special support for a special diagnostic partition that will boot if you hit F10 right after the RAM check. Which is why, if I have the choice, I refuse to buy Compaq hardware. So, I think leaving things the way they have been (letting the administrator decide at installation time) with regard to "dangerously dedicated" is the way to go. Perhaps with a little more verbose warning about "don't try this unless you know what you're doing" thrown in. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 11:46:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570E637BC38; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA23019; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:45:36 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA34534; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:42:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007241842.OAA34534@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:42:05 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: John Baldwin , stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000724104644.A63144@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, David O'Brien wrote: = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:29:11PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: = > Instead of encouraging bug-reports, the attitude has so far been: = > "well, if you use high optimization -- you are on your own", = = But reports are of course welcomed. The attituded is for those that = want working binaries vs. setting up an environment to test bugs. Please, allow me to one more time restate my point before the audience gets bored. I think, the developers should be using the higher optimization (as well as other not-so-well-tested features of other parts of FreeBSD) themselves. That way, when they hit a bug, it is much more likely that a sensible and helpful bug report will be constructed. Much like mayors need to use their cities' public transportation... As the bug report I mentioned earlier illustrates, there are FreeBSD-specific problems with the optimization. The reason it is not fixed yet is because of the attitude I cited. Just imagine vi not working and recommendations to use ee instead -- as a working environment, of course, rather than that set up "to test bugs"... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12: 8:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D79E37B51B for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6OJ7xn09341; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:07:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Mike Hoskins Cc: Mikhail Teterin , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Mike Hoskins wrote: > > So you'll be compatible with your BIOS as well. Many BIOSen get really, > > really torqued if your partition table isn't normal. > > > > It's a negligible amount of space. Just say 'Yes'. :) > > This means, what? All dangerously dedicated systems will have to be > reinstalled or somesuch? If so, that's quite a mess. If it keeps working > as is, but only suggests the new way is better... that's livable. > > My BIOSes (6 systems here at home, all RELENG_4) work just fine with > dangerously dedicated... Well, my BIOSen get mad, and we have Intel L440GX+ boards. The onboard Adaptec really gets mad if ALL of the disks aren't sliced -- it crashes boot2! Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:10: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C852737B51B for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:09:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14568; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:09:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007241909.MAA14568@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007232030.NAA23028@pike.osd.bsdi.com> from John Baldwin at "Jul 23, 0 01:30:05 pm" To: jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com (John Baldwin) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:09:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: hausen@punkt.de, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, John Baldwin wrote: >> Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. >> All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that >> don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. > > No, they are actually smart in that they attempt to use a geometry > that matches the MBR so that you can move disks around. As a result, > when we try to fake it, it confuses them. No, they are for brain-damaged operating systems that are trying to stay compatable with drives built in the Jurassic era when geometry meant something. You and I both know that my Quantum Fireball doesn't have 63 heads, which would imply 32 platters. And never mind that there are a variable number of sectors on a track, depending on if we're talking an outer track or an inner track. Disks should be treated as a linear list of blocks. The rest is just overhead, chicken-waving, backward-compatability magic. The confusion results when two different O/Ss (or the device drivers, or the drive firmware) apply different mapping algorithms to turn a logical block address into a cyl/trk/sec value. What you're saying is that we should follow the existing convention of using values stored in the MBR because it will work with very old hardware, and you could move a drive from a new machine to an old one without leaving the data apparently scrambled. What some of us are saying is we don't care about moving drives around, or legacy hardware. And we know enough to recognize when that can be a problem, and are willing to deal with it. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:10:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.yerpso.net (209-164-208-189.telares.com [209.164.208.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5537A37BE6C for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hank@yerpso.net) Received: from W98 (W98.yerpso.net [192.168.1.6]) by hermes.yerpso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA95339 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:35:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hank@yerpso.net) From: "Henry F. Marquardt" To: Subject: RE: Make Installworld Error Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:36:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200007240634.XAA33675@pike.osd.bsdi.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the record, I've just had this same exact thing happen - unfortunately, this is an old 486 I use as a mail server and the make process is about 19hours - I'm not *absolutely* sure that the buildworld step was flawless, I started it on a telnet session from my upstairs office and had to reboot that machine before completion, but I did check it a couple times with top during the night. Build kernel and install kernel went fine - but install world blew up just as perscribed in this message. I just re-cvsup'ed and buildworld is running off the machine's console now - I won't be able to report success or failure till probably 9am CDT tomorrow. Since it's exactly the same thing I figured it was worth reporting. Hank -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of John Baldwin Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:34 AM To: Justin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Make Installworld Error Justin wrote: > Hello > > I just Cvsupped, Made buildworld, and installed the kernal rebooted and > came up fine, I went to do an make installworld and it went fine for a > good period of time, but then this message was spit out. Look in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2 and make sure you have a boot2 binary in there. If you don't, then it failed to build for some reason. Are you sure your buildworld finished normally? > scully# pwd > /boot > scully# ls -las > total 751 > 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 . > 1 drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:36 .. > 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1024 Jul 24 01:41 boot0 > 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 boot1 > 8 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Jul 21 15:59 boot2 ^^^^^^^^ Note that your /boot/boot2 is an old copy, not the one you just built. > Can I ignore this if no one knows how to fix it? Any help will be > appreciated!! Your machine will still work ok, so you don't have to wory about that, but I would try to reolve this ASAP. > I will be monitoring the Newgroups for Solutions. > > Justin -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:20:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903EE37BA9D for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7A0D9EE01; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38B69B001; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , mi@aldan.algebra.com, jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007241844.LAA14420@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > So, I think leaving things the way they have been (letting the > administrator decide at installation time) with regard to > "dangerously dedicated" is the way to go. Perhaps with a little > more verbose warning about "don't try this unless you know what > you're doing" thrown in. [x] let the admin decide -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:21:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2739137BBEF for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14693; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:21:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007241921.MAA14693@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: from Adrian Filipi-Martin at "Jul 23, 0 06:57:12 pm" To: adrian@ubergeeks.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:21:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com, hausen@punkt.de, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Adrian Filipi-Martin wrote: > Is the requirement of an MBR going to apply to removable media like MO > drives? I've only ever gotten these to work in "dangerously > dedicated" mode. Interesting question. On our Pyramid systems, the tool that installs a partitioning table into the PDF of a SCSI device is called "dkpart". It has an option that can load the partition table into the running kernel without touching the drive, specifically for read-only devices like CD-ROMs and Magneto Optical devices. Seems like a useful feature. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:22: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.yerpso.net (209-164-208-189.telares.com [209.164.208.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB8C37BD04 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hank@yerpso.net) Received: from W98 (W98.yerpso.net [192.168.1.6]) by hermes.yerpso.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA14577 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:20:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hank@yerpso.net) From: "Henry F. Marquardt" To: Subject: Make Installworld Error Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:21:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the record, I've just had this same exact thing happen - unfortunately, this is an old 486 I use as a mail server and the make process is about 19hours - I'm not *absolutely* sure that the buildworld step was flawless, I started it on a telnet session from my upstairs office and had to reboot that machine before completion, but I did check it a couple times with top during the night. Build kernel and install kernel went fine - but install world blew up just as perscribed in this message. I just re-cvsup'ed and buildworld is running off the machine's console now - I won't be able to report success or failure till probably 9am CDT tomorrow. Since it's exactly the same thing I figured it was worth reporting. Hank -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of John Baldwin Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 1:34 AM To: Justin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Make Installworld Error Justin wrote: > Hello > > I just Cvsupped, Made buildworld, and installed the kernal rebooted and > came up fine, I went to do an make installworld and it went fine for a > good period of time, but then this message was spit out. Look in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2 and make sure you have a boot2 binary in there. If you don't, then it failed to build for some reason. Are you sure your buildworld finished normally? > scully# pwd > /boot > scully# ls -las > total 751 > 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 . > 1 drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:36 .. > 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1024 Jul 24 01:41 boot0 > 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 512 Jul 24 01:41 boot1 > 8 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7680 Jul 21 15:59 boot2 ^^^^^^^^ Note that your /boot/boot2 is an old copy, not the one you just built. > Can I ignore this if no one knows how to fix it? Any help will be > appreciated!! Your machine will still work ok, so you don't have to wory about that, but I would try to reolve this ASAP. > I will be monitoring the Newgroups for Solutions. > > Justin -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:25:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51737B62A; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: (from nsayer@localhost) by quack.kfu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01002; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Sayer Message-Id: <200007241925.MAA01002@quack.kfu.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with 6-in-4 tunnels in 4.1-RC? Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My -stable machine just turned deaf on its gif0 interface. I can see the encapsulated packets coming in and out and they look correct... 12:18:25.138253 205.178.90.194 > 204.123.2.236: 3ffe:1200:301b::1 > 3ffe:1001:1:f001::2: icmp6: echo request (encap) 12:18:25.191209 204.123.2.236 > 205.178.90.194: 3ffe:1001:1:f001::2 > 3ffe:1200:301b::1: icmp6: echo reply (encap) but the replies never make it into gif0, so far as I can see. /etc/rc.conf has: ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_network_interfaces="lo0 de0" ipv6_prefix_de0="3ffe:1200:301b:0" ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ipv6_static_routes="default" ipv6_route_default="default -interface gif0" ipv6_router_enable="YES" gif_interfaces="gif0" gifconfig_gif0="205.178.90.194 204.123.2.236" What happened? :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:38:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD4737BB04 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14854; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:38:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007241938.MAA14854@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Make Installworld Error (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Justin at "Jul 24, 0 08:56:09 am" To: asmo@scully.gothworld.com (Justin) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:38:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Justin wrote: > Its not ready to be implemented for a full scale commercial market, > but then again windows wasnt either when it was released. Congratulations on joining up. But a small point of order. FreeBSD is, in fact, deployed in many full scale commercial uses. For example, Yahoo! uses FreeBSD for its servers. So does FreeI.net. And, perhaps most tellingly, HotMail (owned by Microsoft) uses FreeBSD. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:43:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39E337B928 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id e6OJheL00711; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200007241943.e6OJheL00711@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@cisco.com Subject: RELENG_4 installworld from a read-only filesystem From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_215449143P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:43:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_215449143P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- I'm having some problems with an installworld from a read-only /usr/src and /usr/obj. From a freshly-updated RELENG_4 src tree, I did a make buildworld and make buildkernel on a local /usr/src and /usr/obj. I exported the /usr filesystem as read-only to my scratch box, then ssh-ed over to there and mounted the /usr/src and /usr/obj directories as read-only. I did a make installkernel with no problems, then rebooted to single-user mode. After doing an "ifconfig" and a "route add" to get my network running, I started a portmap, then re-mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj as read-only. Then I attempted to do a "make installworld"...the end result was a failure in perl...I've appended the last part of a typescript below. (Apologies for the verboseness.) This is *supposed* to work, right? Thanks! Bruce. PS. "make -k installworld" seemed to do just fine. ----- ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl5.00503 -> /usr/bin/perl Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/auto/B/B.so Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/auto/B/B.bs Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Deparse.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/CC.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Debug.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Showlex.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/makeliblinks Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Bblock.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/cc_harness Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Bytecode.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Stackobj.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Xref.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Lint.pm Installing /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/B/Asmdata.pm Installing 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Mon Jul 24 05:04:16 PDT 2000 --==_Exmh_215449143P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: hXbIzPAi2JUNsnreLOXldI1Z+SqzIG36 iQA/AwUBOXyca9jKMXFboFLDEQI68gCfZIQqOrL9J+wu8+FTaPPP1SGJ3MEAn3Y6 D4inPZaUNqz79eyvjcQEOJSL =H9NN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_215449143P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 12:50:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8104437BB8B for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA60720; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007241949.MAA60720@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007241909.MAA14568@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "Jul 24, 2000 12:09:21 pm" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, John Baldwin wrote: > >> Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > >> All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > >> don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. > > > > No, they are actually smart in that they attempt to use a geometry > > that matches the MBR so that you can move disks around. As a result, > > when we try to fake it, it confuses them. > > No, they are for brain-damaged operating systems that are trying to > stay compatable with drives built in the Jurassic era when geometry > meant something. You and I both know that my Quantum Fireball > doesn't have 63 heads, which would imply 32 platters. And never mind > that there are a variable number of sectors on a track, depending on > if we're talking an outer track or an inner track. No. They are a mandated part of the _PC_ _archictecture_. This is _not_ an OS issue. We are writing the "FreeBSD OS" that runs on the "PC architecture". We are _not_ designing the "FreeBSD PC architecture" and writing our own BIOS. *sigh* > Disks should be treated as a linear list of blocks. The rest is > just overhead, chicken-waving, backward-compatability magic. In theory, yes, and that is how my latest EDD commits to the toolchain work, but they still use the MBR. The MBR has both LBA and cylinder addresses. > The confusion results when two different O/Ss (or the device > drivers, or the drive firmware) apply different mapping algorithms > to turn a logical block address into a cyl/trk/sec value. No. The confusion arises when the BIOS and the OS disagree on the geometry. DOS doesn't have this problem since it uses the BIOS to do its I/O and has a mapping of drive letters to BIOS drive numbers. We, on the other hand, don't use the BIOS for I/O once the kernel is started, nor do we have a reliable method of mapping BIOS drive numbers to our own adX or daX unit numbers. > What you're saying is that we should follow the existing convention > of using values stored in the MBR because it will work with very old > hardware, and you could move a drive from a new machine to an old > one without leaving the data apparently scrambled. MBR's are not only used for old hardware, they are mandated for EFI (the firmware used by the IA-64 and possibly PC's in the not too distant future) because EFI uses a FAT-32 slice as a boot slice. Using a valid MBR with valid slices (respect cylinder boundaries, don't use the first cylinder) are a _mandated_ part of the PC architecture. In the case where a drive does not include an existing MBR and the drive's geometry reported by the ATA INQUIRY (or DRIVE IDENTIFY) command do not match the geometry used by the BIOS, we have no way to detect that this is happening or to determine what geometery the BIOS uses for this drive. Dangerously dedicated mode is just a hack to work around this problem that happens to violate the PC architecture in a couple of ways. As a result, when smarter (not broken) BIOS's attempt to match the geometry in the MBR as their workaround to the problem so that they can boot off of any valid MBR by adjusting to the geometry within it, their workaround collides with our workaround and boom. > What some of us are saying is we don't care about moving drives > around, or legacy hardware. And we know enough to recognize when > that can be a problem, and are willing to deal with it. Well, right now dedicated modes are not scheduled to be axed any time soon if at all. Some things I do plan on doing are: 1) Fix dangerously dedicated mode to match truly dedicated mode and use the actual slice length rather than outright lying about the slice length. 2) Add some heuristics between the loader and libdisk/fdisk that can hopefully make some better guesses at what geometry the BIOS is using for a given drive. 3) Axe the dangerously dedicated mode question box and make it a seperate key in the fdisk menu. This way newbies are not asked if they would like to shoot themselves in the foot. However, people may still use it if they so choose. > -crl -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 13: 6:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (jess.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B22637BD31 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyrawt@nottingham.ac.uk) Received: from legalex.demon.co.uk ([212.229.180.134] helo=dreadnaught) by nottingham.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13GoUX-0003Ks-00; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:06:21 +0100 From: "Andrew Tulloch" To: "Edward Wolpert" Cc: Subject: RE: USB ports on FreeBSD 4.1-RC Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:03:05 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen similar messages since cvsup'ing the other day, although my usb seems to still work fine with my MS intellieye mouse being detected and functioning as before... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Edward Wolpert > Sent: 24 July 2000 13:26 > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: USB ports on FreeBSD 4.1-RC > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Folks- > > I did a clean rebuild Sunday (July 23) morning MST, and > everything seems to > work great. However, I just noticed in the dmesg that my USB hub didn't > come up as it usually does. Here's the specifics from dmesg... > > uhci0: port > 0xfcc0-0xfcdf irq 9 at dev > ice 7.2 on pci0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR > uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR > ugen0: Connectix Corp. QuickCam, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2 > > (I don't use it, so I wasn't looking for it.) The lines saying > that port 1 > and port 2 power on failed are new, compared to 4.0-stable of > about Jun 17. > It did find the quickcam, so I don't know if the messages are meaningful. > > > Virtually, | Open/Web Systems Architect > Edward Wolpert | > 4eb8 4e75 | "Java. It's not just for > ___________________________________________/ breakfast anymore. " -anon > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQB1AwUBOXw1y62tQW/xJRRFAQGC2gMAtyZ+pGZZOGRL4VOAiApsr4c9aOzGpfdd > cIBjC/4NHqxdr6EB3q1vqlakJ4LYWw/zm9Xq9HBBXZJKD+kJrCTOc0EMR/YSyLkM > 4SJqdAIiH73l7+Rp18IXUQZvjdHYgadW > =RSFR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 13: 7:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from survis.surfnet.nl (survis.surfnet.nl [192.87.108.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D079037BD87 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl) Received: from spock.ncc-1701.surfnet.nl ([192.87.111.34]) by survis.surfnet.nl with ESMTP (exPP) for stable@freebsd.org id 13GoVC-0001Yj-00; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:07:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:08:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl X-Sender: rvdp@spock.ncc-1701.surfnet.nl To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-RC: bug in rarpd.c In-Reply-To: <200007241909.MAA14568@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: Organisation: SURFnet bv Address: "Radboudburcht, P.O. Box 19035, 3501 DA Utrecht, NL" Phone: +31 302 305 305 Telefax: +31 302 305 329 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a problem with rarpd in 4.1-RC (and probably all versions before): Jul 22 13:53:58 bones rarpd[435]: no interfaces Problem is a 16 byte buffer in SIOCGIFCONF ioctl. This was reported more than a year ago in PR#11525 by Mark J. Taylor. As a default system has already 9 interfaces (sl0, ppp0, lo0, gif0, gif1, gif2, gif3, faith0 and your network interface), 16 bytes is too small. Seems like rarpd.c never got cleaned up? rarpd.c has: ----- struct ifconf ifc; struct ifreq ibuf[16]; if ((s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)) < 0) { syslog(LOG_ERR, "socket: %m"); exit(1); } ifc.ifc_len = sizeof ibuf; ifc.ifc_buf = (caddr_t)ibuf; if (ioctl(s, SIOCGIFCONF, (char *)&ifc) < 0 || ----- rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 13:11:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A6537BBCB for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA06240 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003301bff5ab$b875bdc0$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Subject: init! Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:14:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD! Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then install from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs :( the error message is get is: panic: Going nowhere without my init! syncinng dics done and the machine reboots. Hope someone can help me and tell me what the problem is. Thanks, Nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 13:26:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate.saargate.de (gate.saargate.de [212.88.128.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224C037BD2B for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from db@saargate.de) Message-id: Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:34:22 +0200 Subject: make all fails (ctm src-4 109) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Dominik Brettnacher" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, as described in jail(8), I tried to do a "make all" in /usr/src, but it failed as follows: ===> sys/boot/i386/loader cc -nostdlib -static -Ttext 0x0 -o loader.sym /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../btx/lib/crt0.o main.o conf.o bcache.o boot.o commands.o console.o devopen.o interp.o interp_backslash.o interp_parse.o load_aout.o load_elf.o ls.o misc.o module.o panic.o isapnp.o pnp.o interp_forth.o vers.o /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../ficl/libficl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../libi386/libi386.a -lstand conf.o(.data+0x10): undefined reference to `ext2fs_fsops' ls.o: In function `command_ls': ls.o(.text+0x255): undefined reference to `readdirfd' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Is this a bug in the source tree or did I make a mistake? -- Yours, Dominik Brettnacher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 13:50:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9A537BD82 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA06761 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Subject: Again init! Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:52:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was sending it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: Hi there, I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD! Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then install from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs :( the error message is get is: panic: Going nowhere without my init! syncinng dics done and the machine reboots. Hope someone can help me and tell me what the problem is. Thanks, Nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:17:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321F437B870 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13GpbE-0008fa-00; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:17:20 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01121; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:17:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:17:19 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Again init! Message-ID: <20000724231719.A1105@freebie.demon.nl> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org References: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was sending > it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: > > Hi there, > I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD! > Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then install > from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs :( the > error message is get is: > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > syncinng dics > done > and the machine reboots. Is this on alpha or in i386? -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:22:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5DF37C056; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:22:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA16085; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008801bff5b5$a0f10920$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: References: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724231719.A1105@freebie.demon.nl> Subject: Re: Again init! Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:25:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, on i386 I believe. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilko Bulte To: Nader Turki Cc: Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Again init! > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was sending > > it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: > > > > Hi there, > > I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD! > > Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then install > > from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs :( the > > error message is get is: > > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > > syncinng dics > > done > > and the machine reboots. > > Is this on alpha or in i386? > > -- > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:22:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D79837B870; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13GpgM-00007B-00; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:22:38 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01173; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:22:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:22:37 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, John Baldwin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Message-ID: <20000724232237.C1105@freebie.demon.nl> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org References: <20000724104644.A63144@dragon.nuxi.com> <200007241842.OAA34534@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007241842.OAA34534@misha.privatelabs.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 02:42:05PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 02:42:05PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > On 24 Jul, David O'Brien wrote: > = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:29:11PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > = > Instead of encouraging bug-reports, the attitude has so far been: > = > "well, if you use high optimization -- you are on your own", > = > = But reports are of course welcomed. The attituded is for those that > = want working binaries vs. setting up an environment to test bugs. > > Please, allow me to one more time restate my point before the audience > gets bored. I think, the developers should be using the higher ^^--- make that the gcc developers.. AFAIK the FreeBSD project tries to take gcc & friends as-is as much as possible. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDA937BE19; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13Gpoe-0000Du-00; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:31:12 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01303; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:31:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:31:12 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Nader Turki Cc: wilko@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Again init! Message-ID: <20000724233112.B1248@freebie.demon.nl> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org References: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724231719.A1105@freebie.demon.nl> <008801bff5b5$a0f10920$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <008801bff5b5$a0f10920$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:25:01PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:25:01PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > Hi there, > on i386 I believe. I believe? I assume you know whether you booted it on a PC or on an Alpha machine? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wilko Bulte > To: Nader Turki > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: Again init! > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > > Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was > sending > > > it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: > > > > > > Hi there, > > > I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD! > > > Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then install > > > from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs :( the > > > error message is get is: > > > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > > > syncinng dics > > > done > > > and the machine reboots. > > > > Is this on alpha or in i386? > > > > -- > > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl ---end quoted text--- -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9521437B95D; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA22563; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00a901bff5b8$04ca0800$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: , References: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724231719.A1105@freebie.demon.nl> <008801bff5b5$a0f10920$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724233112.B1248@freebie.demon.nl> Subject: Re: Again init! Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:42:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, the reason i said i386 'cause i'm not sure what alpha is. Anyway I have a Gateway ALR7200 Server PII400 and when i installed FreeBSD last time it was i386. Hope someone can help me with this problem. Anyway the 2 hard drives are both SCSI Ultra2 LVD. FreeBSD reads the drives and i even partitioned them. the only problem i get is on mounting and installing FreeBSD. Nader, ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilko Bulte To: Nader Turki Cc: ; Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Again init! > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:25:01PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > Hi there, > > on i386 I believe. > > I believe? I assume you know whether you booted it on a PC or on an Alpha > machine? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wilko Bulte > > To: Nader Turki > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Again init! > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > > > Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was > > sending > > > > it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from CD! > > > > Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then install > > > > from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs ( the > > > > error message is get is: > > > > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > > > > syncinng dics > > > > done > > > > and the machine reboots. > > > > > > Is this on alpha or in i386? > > > > > > -- > > > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > > > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A5437B68F; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA25724; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:39:02 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA35319; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:35:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007242135.RAA35319@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:35:43 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations To: wilko@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000724232237.C1105@freebie.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, Wilko Bulte wrote: = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 02:42:05PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: = > On 24 Jul, David O'Brien wrote: = > = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:29:11PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: = > = > Instead of encouraging bug-reports, the attitude has so far = > = > been: "well, if you use high optimization -- you are on your = > = > own", = > = = > = But reports are of course welcomed. The attituded is for those = > = that want working binaries vs. setting up an environment to test = > = bugs. = > = > Please, allow me to one more time restate my point before the = > audience gets bored. I think, the developers should be using the = > higher = = ^^--- make that the gcc developers.. = = AFAIK the FreeBSD project tries to take gcc & friends as-is as much as = possible. As I've indicated a couple of times, I personally found an optimization bug non-reproduceable on Linux (Mandrake). I believe linux kernel is, by default, being built with high optimizations and linux machines don't fall all over because of that. This all suggests, that there are FreeBSD specific issues with GCC. So ``make that all developers'' -- anyone who can construct a meaningful bug-report should be using the high optimization. When such bug-reports are submitted, they need to get serious attention, especially, when there is evidence, the bug is FreeBSD specific. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 14:48:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDB637B7F2 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00788; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:48:07 -0700 Message-ID: <397CB9C9.80311CF@urx.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:48:57 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make all fails (ctm src-4 109) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > > Hi, > > as described in jail(8), I tried to do a "make all" in /usr/src, but it > failed as follows: I've never used a "make all" from /usr/src. I was always told to do a "make buildworld" or "make world". If you are updating from 4.0, you should pay attention to /usr/src/UPDATING. You will have much less trouble if you build the world and the kernel that way. Kent > > ===> sys/boot/i386/loader > cc -nostdlib -static -Ttext 0x0 -o loader.sym > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../btx/lib/crt0.o main.o conf.o > bcache.o boot.o commands.o console.o devopen.o interp.o interp_backslash.o > interp_parse.o load_aout.o load_elf.o ls.o misc.o module.o panic.o > isapnp.o pnp.o interp_forth.o vers.o > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../../ficl/libficl.a > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/../libi386/libi386.a -lstand > conf.o(.data+0x10): undefined reference to `ext2fs_fsops' > ls.o: In function `command_ls': > ls.o(.text+0x255): undefined reference to `readdirfd' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Is this a bug in the source tree or did I make a mistake? > > -- > Yours, > > Dominik Brettnacher > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 15:16:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BA5537BC0D for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 24 Jul 2000 23:16:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:16:08 +0100 From: David Malone To: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RC: bug in rarpd.c Message-ID: <20000724231608.A56927@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200007241909.MAA14568@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:08:49PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:08:49PM +0200, Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl wrote: > There is a problem with rarpd in 4.1-RC (and probably all versions > before): > > Jul 22 13:53:58 bones rarpd[435]: no interfaces > > Problem is a 16 byte buffer in SIOCGIFCONF ioctl. This was reported > more than a year ago in PR#11525 by Mark J. Taylor. I guess this PR needs to be looked at. It looks like a better patch was almost in the works, but it never got finished. > As a default system has already 9 interfaces (sl0, ppp0, lo0, gif0, > gif1, gif2, gif3, faith0 and your network interface), 16 bytes is > too small. > > Seems like rarpd.c never got cleaned up? > rarpd.c has: > struct ifconf ifc; > struct ifreq ibuf[16]; It might be possible to get this upped before 4.1, but it's hard to know if it is worth it given the large number of utilities with this problem listed in the PR. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 15:38:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74CD37BCC3 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00955; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:38:01 -0700 Message-ID: <397CC57B.8BD1086F@urx.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:38:51 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: chad@DCFinc.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) References: <200007241949.MAA60720@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > > Chad R. Larson wrote: > > As I recall, John Baldwin wrote: > > >> Folks, gemoetries are for brain damaged PC operating systems. > > >> All the box needs to boot is a proper MBR. BIOSes that > > >> don't boot from a dedicated disk are _broken_. > > > > > > No, they are actually smart in that they attempt to use a geometry > > > that matches the MBR so that you can move disks around. As a result, > > > when we try to fake it, it confuses them. > > > > No, they are for brain-damaged operating systems that are trying to > > stay compatable with drives built in the Jurassic era when geometry > > meant something. You and I both know that my Quantum Fireball > > doesn't have 63 heads, which would imply 32 platters. And never mind > > that there are a variable number of sectors on a track, depending on > > if we're talking an outer track or an inner track. > > No. They are a mandated part of the _PC_ _archictecture_. This is > _not_ an OS issue. We are writing the "FreeBSD OS" that runs on the > "PC architecture". We are _not_ designing the "FreeBSD PC architecture" > and writing our own BIOS. *sigh* What was worse on the SuperMicro P5STE system, that I first installed FreeBSD 2.2.8 on, was once I installed the DD mode, the system wouldn't boot. There is an moment when the bios appears to query the hard drive and the system would hang at that point. It never got to the point that I could boot from a floppy and repair the mbr. There are probably ways around it now but back then the only thing I new how to do was use the Manufacturer's low level formater. They did the llf via port I/O and didn't need the drive added to the bios HD drive table. No mbr was better than one that would totally hang the system. Kent > > > Disks should be treated as a linear list of blocks. The rest is > > just overhead, chicken-waving, backward-compatability magic. > > In theory, yes, and that is how my latest EDD commits to the toolchain > work, but they still use the MBR. The MBR has both LBA and cylinder > addresses. > > > The confusion results when two different O/Ss (or the device > > drivers, or the drive firmware) apply different mapping algorithms > > to turn a logical block address into a cyl/trk/sec value. > > No. The confusion arises when the BIOS and the OS disagree on the > geometry. DOS doesn't have this problem since it uses the BIOS to > do its I/O and has a mapping of drive letters to BIOS drive numbers. > We, on the other hand, don't use the BIOS for I/O once the kernel is > started, nor do we have a reliable method of mapping BIOS drive numbers > to our own adX or daX unit numbers. > > > What you're saying is that we should follow the existing convention > > of using values stored in the MBR because it will work with very old > > hardware, and you could move a drive from a new machine to an old > > one without leaving the data apparently scrambled. > > MBR's are not only used for old hardware, they are mandated for EFI > (the firmware used by the IA-64 and possibly PC's in the not too > distant future) because EFI uses a FAT-32 slice as a boot slice. > Using a valid MBR with valid slices (respect cylinder boundaries, don't > use the first cylinder) are a _mandated_ part of the PC architecture. > In the case where a drive does not include an existing MBR and the > drive's geometry reported by the ATA INQUIRY (or DRIVE IDENTIFY) > command do not match the geometry used by the BIOS, we have no way to > detect that this is happening or to determine what geometery the BIOS > uses for this drive. Dangerously dedicated mode is just a hack to > work around this problem that happens to violate the PC architecture > in a couple of ways. As a result, when smarter (not broken) BIOS's > attempt to match the geometry in the MBR as their workaround to the problem > so that they can boot off of any valid MBR by adjusting to the geometry > within it, their workaround collides with our workaround and boom. > > > What some of us are saying is we don't care about moving drives > > around, or legacy hardware. And we know enough to recognize when > > that can be a problem, and are willing to deal with it. > > Well, right now dedicated modes are not scheduled to be axed any time > soon if at all. Some things I do plan on doing are: > > 1) Fix dangerously dedicated mode to match truly dedicated mode and > use the actual slice length rather than outright lying about the > slice length. > 2) Add some heuristics between the loader and libdisk/fdisk that can > hopefully make some better guesses at what geometry the BIOS is > using for a given drive. > 3) Axe the dangerously dedicated mode question box and make it a > seperate key in the fdisk menu. This way newbies are not asked > if they would like to shoot themselves in the foot. However, people > may still use it if they so choose. > > > -crl > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 15:39:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front001.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E56237BDCC; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front001.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 14049792; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:39:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:39:27 -0500 (CDT) From: duhring X-Sender: root@dave.uhring.com To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <14716.22129.225312.801780@onceler.kcilink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "S" == Satoshi writes: > > S> * From: "David O'Brien" > S> * StarOffice is a b*&%@ to do a port for. I think finding someone willing > S> * to spend the time on it is the issue right now. > > S> FWIW, Sun announced they'd opensource StarOffice. Maybe we can fix > S> the problems ourselves now. > > Not until Friday, October 13, when SO 6.0 is released under GPL. That > was the official announcement last Wednesday. > > But has anyone gotten SO 5.2 to install on FreeBSD 3.5? Running their > installer keeps failing, and unzip (latest one from ports) doesn't > extract everything necessary to run the setup program). > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 > GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Got it running on 4.0-stable aka 4.1-RC with compile date of last Friday. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 15:56:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (mail-1.sjc.telocity.net [216.227.56.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBBA37B598 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com [216.227.91.85]) by mail-1.sjc.telocity.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20200; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:54:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Otter To: Dave Boers Cc: Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what about the -march=pentiumpro flag? there's a bunch more possibilities listed if you man gcc. keep in mind that the more opts you add in, the longer it will take to compile something. -Otter On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Dave Boers wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:36:30AM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > > When doing a buildworld or buildkernel, what are the optimal compilation > > flags I can set for a system running Pentium Pro? > > -O -pipe > > AFAIK that's the only optimization that is more or less guaranteed to work. > > Regards, > > Dave Boers. > > -- > .signapping: the unlawful act of capturing and carrying away a .sig > against its will and holding it in false imprisonment. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 15:56:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F335B37BBBE for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-245-92.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.245.92]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA24627 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:56:22 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 2828 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Jul 2000 22:56:23 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:56:23 +1000 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Graham Wheeler , kazu@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! Message-ID: <20000725085623.A2097@gurney.reilly.home> References: <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> <25907.964459524@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <25907.964459524@localhost>; from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:25:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:25:24AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I suspect the problem is something far more mysterious in the > interaction between another driver (like syscons?) and the psm driver, > or perhaps it has nothing to do with either and it's a seemingly > unrelated change in an entirely different section of the kernel. Have you tried running for a while _without_ moused? I think that the "conflict between drivers" theory sounds pretty plausible. I've been running -STABLE with an IBM trackpoint keyboard (built-in PS/2 mouse joystick thing) for "ever", and I've never seen said psmintr out of sync message. I don't run moused, but I do run X (now XFree86-4.0 built from source in ports) almost all the time. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 16:20:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4448137B589 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id BAA04716 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:20:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA78464 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:15:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <00e301bff5c5$24154780$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: rdist and pam Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:13:14 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG root@ns:~$ uname -a FreeBSD ns 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #20: Tue Jun 13 13:44:14 CEST 2000 root@ns:/usr/src/sys/compile/DK i386 I use rdist to synchronize some configfiles. Everytime I get this displayed, but rdist works ok: Jul 25 01:05:13 ns rshd[85740]: PAM authentication failed Jul 25 01:05:13 ns rshd[85742]: auth_pam: Permission denied /etc/pam.conf says: # r-utils are broken; ensure this doesn't bother folk rshd auth sufficient pam_deny.so Can I stop these messages? Please answer in private (too) as I'm busy enough reading -current. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 16:32:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ahab.com (gw1-75ml.themediatc.com [204.143.179.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CCA37B5D0 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:32:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moxie@ahab.com) Received: (from moxie@localhost) by ahab.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06131; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:30:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from moxie) From: Jason T Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:30:45 -0400 To: Andrew Reilly Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! Message-ID: <20000724193045.B5299@sseye.ahab.com> References: <397BF8E3.878462E6@cequrux.com> <25907.964459524@localhost> <20000725085623.A2097@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000725085623.A2097@gurney.reilly.home>; from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 08:56:23AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've definitely seen this and I don't run moused. I can't reproduce it reliably (without stopping work to reboot), but it bites an NT machine on the switch as well. It seemed to be more frequent when I had a third machine attached that had no mouse connector, no mouse daemon, and no X... Naturally, when NT gets bitten, I reboot, and when FreeBSD gets bitten, I restart X, both of which cure the problem until the next time I switch around. I used the same switcher ages ago with two machines and some combination of FreeBSD 2.2.1/SCO/Win95 to no ill effect. My wild-ass guess goes to the driver conflict theory. Switcher: Belkin Omniview XF86Config: Section "Pointer" Protocol "Logitech" Device "/dev/psm0" BaudRate 9600 Resolution 100 Buttons 3 EndSection On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 08:56:23AM +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:25:24AM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I suspect the problem is something far more mysterious in the > > interaction between another driver (like syscons?) and the psm driver, > > or perhaps it has nothing to do with either and it's a seemingly > > unrelated change in an entirely different section of the kernel. > > Have you tried running for a while _without_ moused? I think > that the "conflict between drivers" theory sounds pretty > plausible. > > I've been running -STABLE with an IBM trackpoint keyboard > (built-in PS/2 mouse joystick thing) for "ever", and I've never > seen said psmintr out of sync message. I don't run moused, but > I do run X (now XFree86-4.0 built from source in ports) almost > all the time. > > -- > Andrew > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ------------------------- Jason Thaxter Flashlight Media jason@flashlightmedia.com www.flashlightmedia.com ------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 17:11:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5844237B7DD for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15774; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:11:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007250011.RAA15774@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make all fails (ctm src-4 109) In-Reply-To: from Dominik Brettnacher at "Jul 24, 0 10:34:22 pm" To: db@saargate.de (Dominik Brettnacher) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:11:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > > as described in jail(8), I tried to do a "make all" in /usr/src, but it > failed as follows: Doing "make all" in /usr/src is specifically disallowed. You probably wanted to do "make buildworld". -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 17:30:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3116637B51E; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.96.87]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000725002948.BSFA26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:29:48 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04828; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:29:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:29:53 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Jim Mock Cc: Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000725012953.G236@parish> References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com>; from jim@freebsd.org on Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > :-) > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits there. > - jim > > -- > /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ > /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 17:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail02.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7219D37B51C; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO foo) by mail02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 1799916; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:00:45 -0400 Message-ID: <001701bff5fc$f0cb9220$0400a8c0@uhring.com> From: "David Uhring" To: "Mark Ovens" , "Jim Mock" Cc: "Andreas Ntaflos" , References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000725012953.G236@parish> Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:55:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ovens" To: "Jim Mock" Cc: "Andreas Ntaflos" ; Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 7:29 PM Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > > > > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > > > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > > > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > > > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > > > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > > > > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > > > There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > > :-) > > > > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > there. > > > - jim > > > > -- > > /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ > > /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, > am I entitled to my money back? > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message http://real.com Click on Radio Stations on the left side of the page, then select your choice of music. RP should come up and indicate "contacting". If it doesn't, check your mime-types in Netscape/Edit/ Preferences/Navigator/Applications. If all else fails, download the RealPlayer8 Basic for Redhat, the binary executable version, not the rpm. Make the file executable chmod +x and run it. It works and works just fine. You will get a SEGFAULT after completing the install and registration crap, don't worry about it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 18:10:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D2937B724; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA37312; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: net admin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4-STABLE buildworld bombs on telnetd..lcrypto In-Reply-To: <20000724104755.A47843@almazs.pacex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, net admin wrote: > Hi Folks; I am going nowhere with this... just did a fresh CVS > yesterday for src-all which also includes crypto and the only things > that I am not building are sendmail/X11/openSSH/openSSL (marked out in > make.conf) I am using 4.1-stable make.conf and stable-supfile. But > buildworld always fails when building /secure/libexec/telnetd libcrypto is part of OpenSSL. crypto-enabled telnetd should not build itself if NO_OPENSSL is defined - I've just fixed this in -current, and will backport it for 4.1 with the release engineer's approval. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 18:17:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D0B37B71D; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA38023; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Larry Rosenman Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openSSH 2.1 vs. 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: <200007240151.e6O1ptk09849@lerami.lerctr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > Is there a timeframe when openSSH 2.1.1 will be in the > RELENG_4 tree as opposed to ports? A few weeks, probably. I don't think there are any major fixes.. > There (apparently) is an issue with compatibility from > 2.1.1p4 (on my UnixWare box), and the stock 2.1 (from RELENG_4 today). ..however, this sounds odd. There should not be any differences between the port and the base system version other than the updated vendor code (i.e. they have the same FreeBSD-specific changes), and it sounds bad on the part of the OpenSSH guys if 2.1 is incompatible with 2.1.1. Can you provide more details? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 18:20:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E55F37B875; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA38354; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RC: bug in rarpd.c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 Ronald.vanderPol@surfnet.nl wrote: > There is a problem with rarpd in 4.1-RC (and probably all versions > before): > > Jul 22 13:53:58 bones rarpd[435]: no interfaces Hmm. Now is probably too late to fix this for 4.1, but perhaps someone will be able to fix it after the release. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 18:39:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31CE37B875; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 18:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000715) id e6P1dPp09841; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:39:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007250139.e6P1dPp09841@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: openSSH 2.1 vs. 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: "from Kris Kennaway at Jul 24, 2000 06:17:12 pm" To: Kris Kennaway Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:39:25 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I built 2.1.1p4 on my UnixWare box (7.1.1), and when I use the 2.1 SSH client (in /usr/bin, from 4.1-RC of 3 or so days ago, and I haven't seen any commits), I get invalid arguments for some STTY commands in my .profile, and then the session hangs. If I build 2.1.1p4 from PORTS, everything works fine. This is why the question... (I hadn't played with SSH prior to this, so I don't know when it broke). Larry Rosenman > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > > Is there a timeframe when openSSH 2.1.1 will be in the > > RELENG_4 tree as opposed to ports? > > A few weeks, probably. I don't think there are any major fixes.. > > > There (apparently) is an issue with compatibility from > > 2.1.1p4 (on my UnixWare box), and the stock 2.1 (from RELENG_4 today). > > ..however, this sounds odd. There should not be any differences between > the port and the base system version other than the updated vendor code > (i.e. they have the same FreeBSD-specific changes), and it sounds bad on > the part of the OpenSSH guys if 2.1 is incompatible with 2.1.1. Can you > provide more details? > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 19: 7:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250037B8BA for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivas45@sprintmail.com) Received: from sprintmail.com (sdn-ar-004njnbruP142.dialsprint.net [168.191.63.206]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06249 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397CF65A.5B92BB29@sprintmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:07:22 -0400 From: Eric Rivas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000725012953.G236@parish> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > > > > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > > > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > > > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > > > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > > > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > > > > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > > > There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > > :-) > > > > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > there. I installed RP this morning and had the same problem. You might have to add a '%s' after the 'realplay' in the Application field in the MIME settings in your Netscape prefs. So it should read "realplay %s". > > > - jim > > > > -- > > /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ > > /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, > am I entitled to my money back? > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Eric J. Rivas WWW: http://home.sprintmail.com/~rivas45/ ICQ: 61930546 "I can't wait till I'm out of school, so I can start learning things!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 21: 2:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5D437B9A5 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:02:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 13856554; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:01:06 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Eric Rivas , FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:01:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000725012953.G236@parish> <397CF65A.5B92BB29@sprintmail.com> In-Reply-To: <397CF65A.5B92BB29@sprintmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072423020300.14663@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Eric Rivas wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 at 14:02:07 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 01:23:46PM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > > > > is there a version of real player out there for freebsd 4.1? besides > > > > > that one 3.2.0b6 in the ports collection? anyone know? > > > > > > > > > > > > > RealPlayer 7 (for Linux) works. I installed it from the file > > > > rp7_redhat6.bin and RP works standalone, but the Netscape plugin > > > > doesn't (it fires up the standalone player). Someone told me that > > > > installing from rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_b2.bin works both as standalone > > > > *and* as a plugin, but I haven't tried it yet. > > > > > > > > You should be able to get them from http://www.real.com/ > > > > > > There's also a port of realplayer 7.. /usr/ports/audio/linux-realplayer > > > :-) > > > > > > > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > > there. > > I installed RP this morning and had the same problem. You might have to > add a '%s' after the 'realplay' in the Application field in the MIME > settings in your Netscape prefs. So it should read "realplay %s". > > > > > > - jim > > > > > > -- > > > /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ > > > /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, > > am I entitled to my money back? > > ________________________________________________________________ > > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Eric J. Rivas > WWW: http://home.sprintmail.com/~rivas45/ > ICQ: 61930546 > > "I can't wait till I'm out of school, so I can start learning things!" > If you run the executable, it will place a %u following the command. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 21:39:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1609.mail.yahoo.com (web1609.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EAD5F37B9AE for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from op4l@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 26223 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2000 04:39:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000725043919.26222.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [161.142.78.84] by web1609.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:39:19 PDT Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 21:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" Subject: agp and 3dfx To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi all, How do one make use of the new agp driver? Recently, there were discussions on the new 3dfx driver. Where can i get it? is it in the base system already? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 22:31:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fnal.gov (heffalump.fnal.gov [131.225.9.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446C837B693 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zingelman@fnal.gov) Received: from nova.fnal.gov ([131.225.18.207]) by smtp.fnal.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #44770) with ESMTP id <0FY800GKYNBVM7@smtp.fnal.gov> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:31:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (tez@localhost) by nova.fnal.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA04381; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:31:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:31:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Zingelman Subject: Re: openSSH 2.1 vs. 2.1.1 In-reply-to: <200007250139.e6P1dPp09841@lerami.lerctr.org> X-Sender: tez@nova.fnal.gov To: Larry Rosenman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: nova.fnal.gov: tez owned process doing -bs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I built 2.1.1p4 on my UnixWare box (7.1.1), and when I use the > 2.1 SSH client (in /usr/bin, from 4.1-RC of 3 or so days ago, and I haven't > seen any commits), I get invalid arguments for some STTY commands > in my .profile, and then the session hangs. > > If I build 2.1.1p4 from PORTS, everything works fine. Could this be due to different configuration defaults? Maybe different ssh_config files between the builtin and ports versions? Do you see the same behavior if you log in vs. execute a remote command? What if you (re)move your .profile file on the UnixWare box, does that have any effect? My .bashrc file has a line like this to avoid stty problems if [ "`tty`" != "not a tty" ]; then stty ... I have a UnixWare 7.1.1 machine and could try to duplicate the problem if none of this helps. (It now has ssh 1.x on it.) - Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 22:42:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D1737B7D1 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13494; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:42:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28434; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:42:31 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007250542.PAA28434@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Tim Zingelman Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: openSSH 2.1 vs. 2.1.1 In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:31:06 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:42:31 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My .bashrc file has a line like this to avoid stty problems > > if [ "`tty`" != "not a tty" ]; then stty ... Two much better ways of achieving the same result: if [ "$PS1" = "" ]; then # .... is not an interractive shell fi or if [ -t 0 ] ; then stty ... # stding is a tty fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 23: 4:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252A637B75B; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01052; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Andrew Reilly" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Graham Wheeler , kazu@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:56:23 +1000." <20000725085623.A2097@gurney.reilly.home> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:03:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1049.964505018@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you tried running for a while _without_ moused? I think > that the "conflict between drivers" theory sounds pretty > plausible. I run only without moused now since it only makes the problem worse. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 23:44:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iserver.itworks.com.au (iserver.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DEA537B68E for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: (qmail 65504 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 06:43:48 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (203.36.209.235) by iserver.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 06:43:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 16530 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 06:43:48 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (HELO maybe) (203.36.209.235) by maybe.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 06:43:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:43:48 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 2 problems with 4.1-RC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1656176781-964507428=:3353" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1656176781-964507428=:3353 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I cvsupped this morning (Melbourne time), so my code is fairly recent After installing a new world and building a new GENERIC kernel, I have two problems: Firstly, if I boot with the -cv options I don't get the visual config, my screen scrolls forever with text that is too fast to read and never makes it into the config menus Secondly, after a reboot I cannot use the console's keyboard. I get my console messages but cannot type anything in. A dmesg from a -v boot is attached. 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freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B2B37BE4A; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA21084; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:24:16 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 21080; Tue Jul 25 09:23:44 2000 Message-ID: <397D415E.64DD5CE0@cequrux.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:27:26 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: kazu@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <25919.964459652@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > P.S. In case I failed to make such clear by inference, I'm more than > willing to do whatever I can in helping Kazu track this down. I'm > also interested in testing any solution he might be able to come up > with as an 11th-hour fix to -stable which enables 4.1-RELEASE to be an > enjoyable experience for us both. :) I'm also very willing to help. This *may* help: when I was trying to figure out what was going on, prior to making the hacks that I did, I noticed that the values read from the kbd driver (or maybe from the actual port; I can't remember now), made sense - except that when the driver lost sync, it was because suddenly the usual three-byte logical grouping broke, and each logical packet seemed to consist of four bytes, the extra byte being a zero byte. Then at some later stage, this problem would go away, and there would be three byte packets again - and so on. The hacks that I made, which have made my mouse completely usable (that's not to say perfect, but I seem to have reduced the problem to only the transitions between the 3-byte and 4-byte states), perform extra sanity checks on the data and try to detect when these transitions occur. After a transition to the 4-byte state, my code drops the zero bytes that are being inserted; after a transition back to the three byte state, they stop dropping these. I sent Jordan my kludged driver; I'm not sure if I sent it to you, Kazu. Let me know if you want to look at it. It's ugly, but I was desperate to be able to use X and so the elegance wasn't an issue. To solve the problem properly, one would have to figure out where these zero bytes come from and why they occur. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 0:56:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6448F37BAE7 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA23804 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:56:37 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 23717; Tue Jul 25 09:55:29 2000 Message-ID: <397D48D0.85169D2@cequrux.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:59:12 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <25919.964459652@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------63AE80A793C8D7F1A3ED429D" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------63AE80A793C8D7F1A3ED429D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just for interest, I've attached the first 120 lines of my hacked psmintr routine from src/sys/isa/psm.c. I didn't want to send the whole driver (too large), or a patch (too hard to read without applying), but this code fragment should convey the gist of what I did to get my touchpad to work. There is a synaptics_hack_mode variable. Under normal (sane) behaviour, this will be set to zero. When the sync gets lost, this is due (in my experience) to the zero bytes being inserted after the sync byte; in this case, I set the synaptics_hack_mode variable to one, read four bytes each time instead of three, and drop the second byte (the zero byte) from the packet before processing it. If I read a zero byte when I'm expecting a sync byte, I switch back to the original mode. I can't remember my justification for doing the latter, but all of this was based on emperical data gleaned by logging every single byte read by the driver, and it works for me. -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 --------------63AE80A793C8D7F1A3ED429D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="junk" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="junk" static void psmintr(void *arg) { /* * the table to turn PS/2 mouse button bits (MOUSE_PS2_BUTTON?DOWN) * into `mousestatus' button bits (MOUSE_BUTTON?DOWN). */ static int butmap[8] = { 0, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON2DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN }; static int butmap_versapad[8] = { 0, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, 0, MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN, MOUSE_BUTTON1DOWN | MOUSE_BUTTON3DOWN }; static int syncerrs = 0; static int synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 0; register struct psm_softc *sc = arg; mousestatus_t ms; int x, y, z; int c; int l; int x0, y0; /* read until there is nothing to read */ while((c = read_aux_data_no_wait(sc->kbdc)) != -1) { /* discard the byte if the device is not open */ if ((sc->state & PSM_OPEN) == 0) continue; if (syncerrs>0) { log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: read %04x (mode %d).\n", c, synaptics_sync_hack_mode); if (--syncerrs == 0) log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: stopping logging reads\n");; } if (sc->hw.model == MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS && c==0 && sc->inputbytes == 0) { if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode) { synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 0; log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: synaptics_sync_hack_mode 1->0\n"); syncerrs = 10; /* log the next ten reads */ } continue; } /* * Check sync bits. We check for overflow bits and the bit 3 * for most mice. True, the code doesn't work if overflow * condition occurs. But we expect it rarely happens... */ if (sc->inputbytes == 0) { if (sc->hw.model == MOUSE_MODEL_SYNAPTICS) { if ((c&0xCC)!=0x08) { if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode ==0) { synaptics_sync_hack_mode = 1; log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: synaptics_sync_hack_mode 0->1\n"); syncerrs = 10; /* log next ten reads */ } log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %04x out of sync.\n", c); continue; } } else if (((c & sc->mode.syncmask[0]) != sc->mode.syncmask[1])) { log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: out of sync (%04x != %04x).\n", c & sc->mode.syncmask[0], sc->mode.syncmask[1]); continue; } } sc->ipacket[sc->inputbytes++] = c; /* If synaptics_sync_hack_mode is one, we read an extra byte */ if (sc->inputbytes < (sc->mode.packetsize+synaptics_sync_hack_mode)) continue; if (synaptics_sync_hack_mode == 1) { if (sc->ipacket[1]==0) { /* Drop the byte after the status byte from the packet */ sc->ipacket[1] = sc->ipacket[2]; sc->ipacket[2] = sc->ipacket[3]; } } #if 0 log(LOG_DEBUG, "psmintr: %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x %02x\n", sc->ipacket[0], sc->ipacket[1], sc->ipacket[2], sc->ipacket[3], sc->ipacket[4], sc->ipacket[5]); #endif c = sc->ipacket[0]; /* * A kludge for Kensington device! * The MSB of the horizontal count appears to be stored in * a strange place. --------------63AE80A793C8D7F1A3ED429D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 1:39:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D30037B8D5 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:nE1eeHR4AMOBPVlZbWQvzpI1Lyr6SGhS@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id RAA24238; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:39:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:JSmVqO6ScIRwfxnqqzJp6o/XhAGbFfvr@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W/zodiac-May2000) with ESMTP id RAA25921; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:46:32 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200007250846.RAA25921@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Graham Wheeler Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:27:26 +0200." <397D415E.64DD5CE0@cequrux.com> References: <25919.964459652@localhost> <397D415E.64DD5CE0@cequrux.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:46:31 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm also very willing to help. [...] >The hacks that I made, which have made my mouse completely usable >(that's not to say perfect, but I seem to have reduced the problem to >only the transitions between the 3-byte and 4-byte states), perform >extra sanity checks on the data and try to detect when these transitions >occur. After a transition to the 4-byte state, my code drops the zero >bytes that are being inserted; after a transition back to the three byte >state, they stop dropping these. > >I sent Jordan my kludged driver; I'm not sure if I sent it to you, Kazu. >Let me know if you want to look at it. It's ugly, but I was desperate to >be able to use X and so the elegance wasn't an issue. Yes, I have your patch. >To solve the problem properly, one would have to figure out where these >zero bytes come from and why they occur. I have been thinking about why this is happening. But, I cannot think of any plausible reason so far... I will contact you later, after I do some experiments tonight. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 1:48:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relativity.student.utwente.nl (wit389306.student.utwente.nl [130.89.234.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE0B37BBFE for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djb@wit389306.student.utwente.nl) Received: by relativity.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E1DB5E20; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:49:15 +0200 From: Dave Boers To: Gavin Cameron Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 problems with 4.1-RC Message-ID: <20000725104915.A3633@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: djb@ifa.au.dk References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from gavin@itworks.com.au on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:43:48PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:43:48PM +1000, Gavin Cameron wrote: > Firstly, if I boot with the -cv options I don't get the visual config, my > screen scrolls forever with text that is too fast to read and never makes > it into the config menus If you want to enter visual config you have to boot using "boot -c" and type "visual" when prompted. AFAIK "boot -cv" will give you a verbose boot and a command prompt. > Secondly, after a reboot I cannot use the console's keyboard. I get my > console messages but cannot type anything in. Sorry, don't know about that one. Are you sure scroll-lock is not accidentally turned on? Regards, Dave Boers. -- .signapping: the unlawful act of capturing and carrying away a .sig against its will and holding it in false imprisonment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 1:58:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citadel.cequrux.com (citadel.cequrux.com [192.96.22.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C03A37B988 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gram@cequrux.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by citadel.cequrux.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA28709; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:56:51 +0200 (SAST) Received: by citadel.cequrux.com via recvmail id 28705; Tue Jul 25 10:56:39 2000 Message-ID: <397D5726.559EE428@cequrux.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:00:22 +0200 From: Graham Wheeler Organization: Cequrux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). ARGH! References: <25919.964459652@localhost> <397D415E.64DD5CE0@cequrux.com> <200007250846.RAA25921@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > >I'm also very willing to help. > [...] > >The hacks that I made, which have made my mouse completely usable > >(that's not to say perfect, but I seem to have reduced the problem to > >only the transitions between the 3-byte and 4-byte states), perform > >extra sanity checks on the data and try to detect when these transitions > >occur. After a transition to the 4-byte state, my code drops the zero > >bytes that are being inserted; after a transition back to the three byte > >state, they stop dropping these. There is another behaviour which I forgot to mention - the zero byte can occur either before or after the sync byte. So I get three types of packets: zero sync X Y sync zero X Y sync X Y The last of these is the correct format; the other two are not. My hacked driver is capable of handling all three, and detecting transitions between them. Any particular behaviour can last anything from a few seconds to a few minutes before it changes to one of the other states. I had almost concluded that I just had buggy hardware, but after Jordan's message it seems that perhaps there is a bug somewhere in the code after all (although I think its as likely to be in kbd.c or elsewhere as it is in to be in psm.c - making it, as Jordan said, a real nasty to find). -- Dr Graham Wheeler E-mail: gram@cequrux.com Director, Research and Development WWW: http://www.cequrux.com CEQURUX Technologies Phone: +27(21)423-6065 Firewalls/VPN Specialists Fax: +27(21)424-3656 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 4: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skaarup.org (skaarup.org [130.228.230.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DA337B9DA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Received: from localhost (skaarup@localhost) by skaarup.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA44376 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:59:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:59:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup X-Sender: skaarup@skaarup.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make world fail (at) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.1-RC, cvsupped to the latest src-all.. ** snip snip ** ===> usr.bin/at ".depend", line 3: Need an operator ".depend", line 4: Need an operator ".depend", line 5: Need an operator ".depend", line 6: Need an operator ".depend", line 7: Need an operator ".depend", line 10: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 ** snip snip ** It worked fine for about a week ago.. Best regards Rasmus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 4:26:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from secure.smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu07.email.msn.com [207.46.181.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AF137BAD7 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:26:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthonymo_tse@email.msn.com) Received: from tony - 207.5.159.128 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:26:19 -0700 Message-ID: <005201bff62b$38109260$0a00a8c0@ett> Reply-To: "Tony" From: "Tony" To: References: Subject: -stable 3.5 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:26:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG should I be reading a particular edition of fbsd-stable for 3.5 or are they all bunched together? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 4:31:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate.saargate.de (gate.saargate.de [212.88.128.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB4D37BDEA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from db@saargate.de) Message-id: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:39:02 +0200 Subject: Re: make all fails (ctm src-4 109) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: chad@DCFinc.com From: "Dominik Brettnacher" References: <200007250011.RAA15774@freeway.dcfinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200007250011.RAA15774@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG chad@DCFinc.com schreibt: >> as described in jail(8), I tried to do a "make all" in /usr/src, but it >> failed as follows: >Doing "make all" in /usr/src is specifically disallowed. You >probably wanted to do "make buildworld". So why does jail(8) mention "make all" instead of buildworld? Does installworld also use "DESTDIR"? -- Dominik Brettnacher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 4:46:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C853C37BD40 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13H3A6-00046D-00; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:46:14 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:46:14 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, chad@DCFinc.com Subject: Re: make all fails (ctm src-4 109) Message-ID: <20000725134614.A15727@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200007250011.RAA15774@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from db@saargate.de on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:39:02PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue 2000-07-25 (13:39), Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > chad@DCFinc.com schreibt: > >> as described in jail(8), I tried to do a "make all" in /usr/src, but it > >> failed as follows: > >Doing "make all" in /usr/src is specifically disallowed. You > >probably wanted to do "make buildworld". > > So why does jail(8) mention "make all" instead of buildworld? Does > installworld also use "DESTDIR"? 'make all' isn't disallowed, but it may not work if you've upgraded your sources since your last installworld. 'make world' does all sorts of useful upgrade-path fixes. Yes, installworld honors DESTDIR. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 4:49:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0458437BD40 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:49:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA86218; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:49:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Has anybody built MySQL lately? From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 25 Jul 2000 13:49:45 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I try to build MySQL on 4.1-RC2 (running on a -CURRENT kernel, but that shouldn't make any difference), I get the following when it reaches sql_yacc.cc: last pid: 83002; load averages: 1.34, 1.41, 1.50 up 6+23:58:13 13:46:42 101 processes: 1 running, 100 sleeping CPU states: 3.3% user, 0.0% nice, 6.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 89.8% idle Mem: 129M Active, 7080K Inact, 44M Wired, 5240K Cache, 29M Buf, 576K Free Swap: 512M Total, 232M Used, 280M Free, 45% Inuse, 1788K In, 780K Out PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 82846 root -22 0 215M 119M swread 20:24 31.10% 31.10% cc1plus At about that point I have to kill it to stop the machine from swapping itself to oblivion... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 4:59:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB9837BE49 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:59:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@chg.ru) Received: (from dima@localhost) by chg.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27196; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:59:22 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:59:21 +0400 From: "Dmitry S. Sivachenko" To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anybody built MySQL lately? Message-ID: <20000725155921.C26069@netserv1.chg.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from des@flood.ping.uio.no on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:49:45PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:49:45PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > When I try to build MySQL on 4.1-RC2 (running on a -CURRENT kernel, > but that shouldn't make any difference), I get the following when it > reaches sql_yacc.cc: > > last pid: 83002; load averages: 1.34, 1.41, 1.50 up 6+23:58:13 13:46:42 > 101 processes: 1 running, 100 sleeping > CPU states: 3.3% user, 0.0% nice, 6.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 89.8% idle > Mem: 129M Active, 7080K Inact, 44M Wired, 5240K Cache, 29M Buf, 576K Free > Swap: 512M Total, 232M Used, 280M Free, 45% Inuse, 1788K In, 780K Out > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 82846 root -22 0 215M 119M swread 20:24 31.10% 31.10% cc1plus > > At about that point I have to kill it to stop the machine from > swapping itself to oblivion... > It seems you use -O2 options to gcc. This is known bug in gcc. With just -O everything should work fine. --dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 5: 6:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02FE37BD40 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DBA5E1C994; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:05:55 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" , Subject: RE: Has anybody built MySQL lately? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:04:05 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFF649.937977C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFF649.937977C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dag, The compiler takes too much time compiling sql_yacc.cc in -O3 or above under FreeBSD. To correct, cd to root directory of MySQL (preferebly, a new clean untar), and use the attached patch file to disable optimization for sql_yacc.cc That's all. Noor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dag-Erling Smorgrav Sent: eai uieue 25 eaie 2000 13:50 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Has anybody built MySQL lately? When I try to build MySQL on 4.1-RC2 (running on a -CURRENT kernel, but that shouldn't make any difference), I get the following when it reaches sql_yacc.cc: last pid: 83002; load averages: 1.34, 1.41, 1.50 up 6+23:58:13 13:46:42 101 processes: 1 running, 100 sleeping CPU states: 3.3% user, 0.0% nice, 6.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 89.8% idle Mem: 129M Active, 7080K Inact, 44M Wired, 5240K Cache, 29M Buf, 576K Free Swap: 512M Total, 232M Used, 280M Free, 45% Inuse, 1788K In, 780K Out PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 82846 root -22 0 215M 119M swread 20:24 31.10% 31.10% cc1plus At about that point I have to kill it to stop the machine from swapping itself to oblivion... DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFF649.937977C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="mysql-yacc-patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mysql-yacc-patch" --- sql/Makefile.in.orig Sat Jan 1 18:01:13 2000=0A= +++ sql/Makefile.in Wed Jan 5 20:28:17 2000=0A= @@ -317,6 +317,10 @@=0A= else :; fi=0A= sql_yacc.hh: sql_yacc.cc=0A= =0A= +# gcc takes a lot of memory and cpu time if it compiles sql_yacc.cc = with -O=0A= +sql_yacc.o: sql_yacc.cc=0A= + $(CXXCOMPILE) -O0 -c $<=0A= +=0A= =0A= # This directory's subdirectories are mostly independent; you can cd=0A= # into them and run `make' without going through this Makefile.=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BFF649.937977C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 5:12:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEDD37BD40 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 9425C9B1C; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F01BA11; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Noor Dawod Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Has anybody built MySQL lately? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi Dag, > > The compiler takes too much time compiling sql_yacc.cc in -O3 or above under > FreeBSD. > To correct, cd to root directory of MySQL (preferebly, a new clean untar), > and use the attached patch file to disable optimization for sql_yacc.cc > That should not be necessary. ports/mysql322-server/patches/patch-aq forces -O0 (oh zero, i.e. no optimization) already. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 5:16: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EAD37BDBA for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.10.1/8.10.1/20000715) id e6PCFv804456; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:15:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Rosenman Message-Id: <200007251215.e6PCFv804456@lerami.lerctr.org> Subject: Re: openSSH 2.1 vs. 2.1.1 In-Reply-To: "from Tim Zingelman at Jul 25, 2000 00:31:06 am" To: Tim Zingelman Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:15:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL79 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think the configs are the same (both run against the same 2.1.1p4 daemon). I can check it later today... > > I built 2.1.1p4 on my UnixWare box (7.1.1), and when I use the > > 2.1 SSH client (in /usr/bin, from 4.1-RC of 3 or so days ago, and I haven't > > seen any commits), I get invalid arguments for some STTY commands > > in my .profile, and then the session hangs. > > > > If I build 2.1.1p4 from PORTS, everything works fine. > > Could this be due to different configuration defaults? Maybe different > ssh_config files between the builtin and ports versions? > > Do you see the same behavior if you log in vs. execute a remote command? > What if you (re)move your .profile file on the UnixWare box, does that > have any effect? > > My .bashrc file has a line like this to avoid stty problems > > if [ "`tty`" != "not a tty" ]; then stty ... > > I have a UnixWare 7.1.1 machine and could try to duplicate the > problem if none of this helps. (It now has ssh 1.x on it.) > > - Tim > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 5:43:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3A237BD84 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:43:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07665 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:43:39 -0700 Message-ID: <7661.964529019@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a heads-up to say that the last few issues have been dealt with and it looks like we're on target for a July 25th, 18:00 PDT (Pacific Daylight Time) tag and (as soon as that's finished) release operation. I'll be putting the i386 and alpha bits together throughout the night and will be shooting for some FTPable / ISO image bits on ftp.freebsd.org by early morning (the 26th). Thanks for all the hard work people have put into getting many important changes merged into 4.1! We may not have gotten every last minute cosmetic or semi-experimental hack into this release, but then that's not really the objective, either. :-) I'd say 4.1 looks like a good one. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 5:54:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF0F37BB2D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:54:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FFE01C994; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:54:40 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" , Subject: RE: Has anybody built MySQL lately? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:52:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the same patch, I just wrapped it in my previous mail under another name. Noor -----Original Message----- From: Chris D. Faulhaber [mailto:jedgar@fxp.org] Sent: eai uieue 25 eaie 2000 14:13 To: Noor Dawod Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav; stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Has anybody built MySQL lately? On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi Dag, > > The compiler takes too much time compiling sql_yacc.cc in -O3 or above under > FreeBSD. > To correct, cd to root directory of MySQL (preferebly, a new clean untar), > and use the attached patch file to disable optimization for sql_yacc.cc > That should not be necessary. ports/mysql322-server/patches/patch-aq forces -O0 (oh zero, i.e. no optimization) already. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 6:17: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F117337B653 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivas45@sprintmail.com) Received: from sprintmail.com (sdn-ar-002njnbruP224.dialsprint.net [168.191.62.240]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA29674; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397D933F.C9087E70@sprintmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:16:47 -0400 From: Eric Rivas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Uhring Cc: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000725012953.G236@parish> <397CF65A.5B92BB29@sprintmail.com> <00072423020300.14663@dave.uhring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Uhring wrote: > [snip] > > > > > > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > > > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > > > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > > > there. > > > > I installed RP this morning and had the same problem. You might have to > > add a '%s' after the 'realplay' in the Application field in the MIME > > settings in your Netscape prefs. So it should read "realplay %s". > > > > > > > > > - jim > > > > > > > > -- > > > > /* jim mock - berkeley software design, inc - open source division */ > > > > /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ [snip] > > If you run the executable, it will place a %u following the command. I don't know what exactly the %u mean for but my setup, with the %s, work perfectly (well, haven't tried the plugin yet). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Eric J. Rivas WWW: http://home.sprintmail.com/~rivas45/ ICQ: 61930546 "I can't wait till I'm out of school, so I can start learning things!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 6:19: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E184237B848 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (IDENT:antony@pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10958; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:41:25 +0100 Message-ID: <397D8513.412C8690@abacus.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:16:19 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0-test4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Has anybody built MySQL lately? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > When I try to build MySQL on 4.1-RC2 (running on a -CURRENT kernel, > but that shouldn't make any difference), I get the following when it > reaches sql_yacc.cc: > > last pid: 83002; load averages: 1.34, 1.41, 1.50 up 6+23:58:13 13:46:42 > 101 processes: 1 running, 100 sleeping > CPU states: 3.3% user, 0.0% nice, 6.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 89.8% idle > Mem: 129M Active, 7080K Inact, 44M Wired, 5240K Cache, 29M Buf, 576K Free > Swap: 512M Total, 232M Used, 280M Free, 45% Inuse, 1788K In, 780K Out > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 82846 root -22 0 215M 119M swread 20:24 31.10% 31.10% cc1plus > > At about that point I have to kill it to stop the machine from > swapping itself to oblivion... sql_yacc.cc does take a lot of memory to build with optimisation. Since it was generated with bison, it doesn't benefit much from optimisation - compile with just -O and it will use much less memory. -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 Your fortune : I know th'MAMBO!! I have a TWO-TONE CHEMISTRY SET!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 6:20:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3032937B885; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13H4dL-0004lb-00; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:20:31 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01308; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:38:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:38:19 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Nader Turki Cc: wilko@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Again init! Message-ID: <20000725103819.B1218@freebie.demon.nl> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org References: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724231719.A1105@freebie.demon.nl> <008801bff5b5$a0f10920$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724233112.B1248@freebie.demon.nl> <00a901bff5b8$04ca0800$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <00a901bff5b8$04ca0800$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net>; from nturki@adelphia.net on Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:42:08PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:42:08PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: Alpha is a RISC CPU. FreeBSD has in addition to the i386 port also a port to Alpha machines. On Alpha this problem has been observed by some. I have never heard of it on i386, but that could be me. What is causes is unknown, but a workaround is to remove other bootable disks from the same system. At least that helps on Freebsd/alpha Wilko > Sorry, the reason i said i386 'cause i'm not sure what alpha is. > Anyway I have a Gateway ALR7200 Server PII400 and when i installed FreeBSD > last time it was i386. > Hope someone can help me with this problem. Anyway the 2 hard drives are > both SCSI Ultra2 LVD. FreeBSD reads the drives and i even partitioned them. > the only problem i get is on mounting and installing FreeBSD. > > Nader, > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wilko Bulte > To: Nader Turki > Cc: ; > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: Again init! > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:25:01PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > on i386 I believe. > > > > I believe? I assume you know whether you booted it on a PC or on an Alpha > > machine? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Wilko Bulte > > > To: Nader Turki > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: Again init! > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > > > > Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was > > > sending > > > > > it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from > CD! > > > > > Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then > install > > > > > from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs > ( the > > > > > error message is get is: > > > > > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > > > > > syncinng dics > > > > > done > > > > > and the machine reboots. > > > > > > > > Is this on alpha or in i386? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > > > > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl > > ---end quoted text--- > > > > -- > > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl ---end quoted text--- -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 6:48: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dnvrpop2.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop2.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAE8437B524 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 06:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolpert@methodsystems.com) Received: (qmail 45365 invoked by alias); 25 Jul 2000 13:47:54 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-stable@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 45345 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jul 2000 13:47:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO osti.methodsystems.com) (63.227.49.195) by dnvrpop2.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 13:47:54 -0000 Content-Length: 1247 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:47:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Edward Wolpert To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: USB ports on FreeBSD 4.1-RC [stable] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Folks- Just to followup what mail people sent to me on this problem... It looks like even though the kernel complains that the power failed for the USB ports, the USB devices seem to work fine. So the error message that appears on 4.1-RC at boot time may be incorrect. This message didn't appear in 4.0-R or 4.0-Stable until around the start of July. (I'm guessing the time) Anyone know the reason for the new error message? On 24-Jul-00 Edward Wolpert wrote: > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR > uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR > ugen0: Connectix Corp. QuickCam, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 2 > Virtually, | Open/Web Systems Architect Edward Wolpert | 4eb8 4e75 | "Java. It's not just for ___________________________________________/ breakfast anymore. " -anon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBOX2aia2tQW/xJRRFAQFU3gL6A0xnqNqLbp5gqPfeNJxBU7j9cKjRGlRr MEZ8uSl4g896qgxI4dtdePWLvoeWx0xVGb1NbDezn0xDQy7zRhOdS2IT2DC/1hqV ca3NTQ406yCRvU/t8TbVn8CZzpR5DDEK =aate -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:19:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC9337B539; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910BEE896; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA91106; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:19:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.41433.379511.606120@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:19:05 -0400 (EDT) To: duhring Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Updating staroffice5 port for 4.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: <14716.22129.225312.801780@onceler.kcilink.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "d" == duhring writes: d> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: >> But has anyone gotten SO 5.2 to install on FreeBSD 3.5? Running their d> Got it running on 4.0-stable aka 4.1-RC with compile date of last Friday. I got a SO5.2 CD at the OpenSource conference, and it seems to have an expanded tree in it... but it doesn't work either on 3.5. But since OpenSound is now supporting 4.x, I'll just upgrade to that and install SO. Thanks for the info. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:24:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B56B37B7A9 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB779E896; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA91168; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:24:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.41772.598390.393160@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:24:44 -0400 (EDT) To: "Leif Neland" Cc: Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <00e301bff5c5$24154780$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> References: <00e301bff5c5$24154780$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "LN" == Leif Neland writes: LN> /etc/pam.conf says: LN> # r-utils are broken; ensure this doesn't bother folk LN> rshd auth sufficient pam_deny.so LN> Can I stop these messages? Use rdist6 (from ports) with SSH as your transport. You'll need to install rdist6 on each system. Once installed, use something like this: "rdist6 -P/usr/local/bin/ssh" to send out your files. You'll feel better knowing that it is more secure this way as well. You should disable the r-commands on any untrusted network. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:27:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B1837B69B for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ACFE896 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA91192; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:27:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.41952.193701.974451@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:27:44 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-Reply-To: <20000725012953.G236@parish> References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000725012953.G236@parish> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MO" == Mark Ovens writes: MO> OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will MO> (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just MO> fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits MO> there. You need to ensure that the file name is passed from netscape to the realplayer. If not, it just runs as if you typed "realplay" on the command line. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:31:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715F637B62E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2inis35.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.112.101]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14659 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A4D1E6E75; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Recent ports behavior (fetch) Message-Id: <20000725143107.9A4D1E6E75@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently I have noticed that one of the following happens if you interrupt a fetch during a ports 'make' (say because you have a dialup and the port is downloading an 18M file): 1. Fetch runs in the background and you have to stop it multiple times. 2. Fetch leaves a truncated file in /usr/ports/distfiles which much be deleted by hand. Is there any chance for a return to the old behavior (cntl-C stops fetch, file deleted) for 4.1? It's a lot friendlier for us dial-up folk... - Mike H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:39:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.pathcom.com (smtp.tor.axxent.ca [209.250.128.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFAB37B65F for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lwh@pathcom.com) Received: from dial-0882.tor.axxent.ca (dial-0882.tor.axxent.ca [216.249.3.120]) by atlas.pathcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26739 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Luke Hollins Reply-To: lwh@pathcom.com To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Has anybody built MySQL lately? In-Reply-To: <397D8513.412C8690@abacus.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I dont know at which version they added it , but in 3.23.21 it warns you about compiling sql_yacc.cc , if you run configure with --with-low-memory I think it leaves it at -O6 but changes a -f option that makes a big difference to the memory use while compiling. Luke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:40:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C9537B622 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CE9E896 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA91300; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.42696.476395.604684@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:40:08 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anybody built MySQL lately? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "DS" == Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: DS> When I try to build MySQL on 4.1-RC2 (running on a -CURRENT kernel, DS> but that shouldn't make any difference), I get the following when it DS> reaches sql_yacc.cc: If your machine can't handle that file with optimzation turned on, then recompile just that file with optimization level lowered or totally off. I believe the port does this for you, but it is not necessary if you have a powerful enough machine. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 7:44:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658C537B697 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 53C1A9B3E; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46183BA11; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Mike Harding Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recent ports behavior (fetch) In-Reply-To: <20000725143107.9A4D1E6E75@netcom1.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Mike Harding wrote: > > Recently I have noticed that one of the following happens if you > interrupt a fetch during a ports 'make' (say because you have a dialup > and the port is downloading an 18M file): > > 1. Fetch runs in the background and you have to stop it multiple times. > > 2. Fetch leaves a truncated file in /usr/ports/distfiles which much > be deleted by hand. > > Is there any chance for a return to the old behavior (cntl-C stops > fetch, file deleted) for 4.1? It's a lot friendlier for us dial-up > folk... > I brought up (2) last week, with absolutely no response. I too prefer the previous behaviour of deleting truncated files instead of manually deleting them prior to re-fetching a port. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 8:31:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.jumpweb.com (mgooderum1.dsl.uswest.net [209.180.19.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D07937B57D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@JUMPWEB.COM) Received: from purgatory.jumpweb.com (purgatory [172.15.1.5]) by gateway.jumpweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA46551; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:31:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mark@JUMPWEB.COM) Received: by purgatory.jumpweb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:31:11 -0500 Message-ID: <251BF6012D6B4A49A4109B1C3289A7B5BAED@purgatory.jumpweb.com> From: "Gooderum, Mark" To: "'lwh@pathcom.com'" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Has anybody built MySQL lately? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:31:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFF64D.5C14AF96" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF64D.5C14AF96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I had a similar issue with 3.22.32 on 4.0-RELEASE on a P175 w/192MB of RAM. It would get to sql_yacc.c and spin for _days_. I tried manually compiling the file with -02 and it still spun for 2-3 days before I killed it. Odd thing was that watching ps/pstat, the compiler would only rack up 2-3 seconds of CPU time every minute and the machine idle stayed well over 50% and the load average less than 2. -=- Mark Gooderum mark@jumpweb.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Luke Hollins [mailto:lwh@pathcom.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 9:39 AM > To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Has anybody built MySQL lately? > > > I dont know at which version they added it , but in 3.23.21 > it warns you > about compiling sql_yacc.cc , if you run configure with > --with-low-memory > I think it leaves it at -O6 but changes a -f option that makes a big > difference to the memory use while compiling. > > Luke > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF64D.5C14AF96 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Has anybody built MySQL lately?

I had a similar issue with 3.22.32 on 4.0-RELEASE on = a P175 w/192MB of RAM.  It would get to sql_yacc.c and spin for = _days_.  I tried manually compiling the file with -02 and it still = spun for 2-3 days before I killed it.  Odd thing was that watching = ps/pstat, the compiler would only rack up 2-3 seconds of CPU time every = minute and the machine idle stayed well over 50% and the load average = less than 2.

-=3D-
Mark Gooderum
mark@jumpweb.com


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------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF64D.5C14AF96-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 9:13:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4716837B646; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA14307; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000f01bff653$a525ce60$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: , References: <006f01bff5b1$1ed2a100$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724231719.A1105@freebie.demon.nl> <008801bff5b5$a0f10920$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000724233112.B1248@freebie.demon.nl> <00a901bff5b8$04ca0800$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> <20000725103819.B1218@freebie.demon.nl> Subject: Re: Again init! Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:16:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your reply. My problem was a bad SCSI Cable. Just got a new one and FreeBSD installed fine! Nader, ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilko Bulte To: Nader Turki Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:38 AM Subject: Re: Again init! > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:42:08PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > Alpha is a RISC CPU. FreeBSD has in addition to the i386 port also a port > to Alpha machines. On Alpha this problem has been observed by some. I have > never heard of it on i386, but that could be me. > > What is causes is unknown, but a workaround is to remove other bootable > disks from the same system. At least that helps on Freebsd/alpha > > Wilko > > > > Sorry, the reason i said i386 'cause i'm not sure what alpha is. > > Anyway I have a Gateway ALR7200 Server PII400 and when i installed FreeBSD > > last time it was i386. > > Hope someone can help me with this problem. Anyway the 2 hard drives are > > both SCSI Ultra2 LVD. FreeBSD reads the drives and i even partitioned them. > > the only problem i get is on mounting and installing FreeBSD. > > > > Nader, > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wilko Bulte > > To: Nader Turki > > Cc: ; > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:31 PM > > Subject: Re: Again init! > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:25:01PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > on i386 I believe. > > > > > > I believe? I assume you know whether you booted it on a PC or on an Alpha > > > machine? > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Wilko Bulte > > > > To: Nader Turki > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:17 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Again init! > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 04:52:44PM -0400, Nader Turki wrote: > > > > > > Hi there, I sent an email earlier and got disconnected while i was > > > > sending > > > > > > it. so i'm not sure if you guys got it or not. I'll copy it below: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I just installed a second HD and trying to install FreeBSD 4.0 from > > CD! > > > > > > Anyway, after partitioning i choose the the packages i want then > > install > > > > > > from CDROM .... but i get an error message freebsd never installs > > ( the > > > > > > error message is get is: > > > > > > panic: Going nowhere without my init! > > > > > > syncinng dics > > > > > > done > > > > > > and the machine reboots. > > > > > > > > > > Is this on alpha or in i386? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > > > > > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl > > > ---end quoted text--- > > > > > > -- > > > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > > > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 9:14:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF67737B646 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:14:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01079; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:14:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.48372.534815.567538@knock.econ.vt.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:14:44 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD-stable@freebsd.org Subject: "can't load kernel" after build/install world/kernel X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I seem to have shot myself in the foot. I ran cvsup, buildworld, installworld, buildkernel, and installkernel yesterday on my laptop as well as my desktop. The laptop will no longer boot FreeBSD; the desktop is fine. The laptop shows: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD Default: F2 BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keryboard BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 BIOS 639kB/64448kB available memory FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 (root@clifden.econ.vt.edu, Mon Jul 24 14.53.22 EDT 2000) Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key ofr command prompt. Booting [kernel]... can't load 'kernel' can't load 'kernel.old' ok ls open '/' failed: no such file or directory ok lsdev disk @0x10738 disk0: BIOS drive A disk1: BIOS drive C pxe @ 0xe4dc The machine boots up in W95. The machine was running 4.0-Stable from a few weeks ago. I have a script which runs the sequence of build/install steps; the script on the laptop stopped because the laptop was running under a different machine name than usual and so the script did not find the kernel config file. I ran buildkernel and installkernel by hand for my kernel config file and for GENERIC. I believe I followed the UPDATING instructions (but something's not working, so I probably missed something). Any suggestions? Thanks- Russ Murphy -- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 3034 Pamplin Hall Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0316 (540) 231-4537 rdmurphy@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 9:22: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0D237B5CD for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:21:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA13098; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:21:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA16610; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:21:47 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA11466; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:21:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.48795.60045.215985@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:21:47 -0700 (MST) To: rdmurphy@vt.edu, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "can't load kernel" after build/install world/kernel In-Reply-To: <14717.48372.534815.567538@knock.econ.vt.edu> References: <14717.48372.534815.567538@knock.econ.vt.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, July 25, Russell D. Murphy Jr. wrote: ] > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key ofr command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > can't load 'kernel' > can't load 'kernel.old' do you have kernel="/MYKERNELNAME" in /boot/loader.conf ? By default, "make installkernel KERNEL=FOO" will install the kernel built as FOO into /FOO. That's the only thing I can think of off hand ... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 9:46:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B51137B68D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:46:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6PGkZU26543; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007251646.e6PGkZU26543@ptavv.es.net> To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Cc: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "can't load kernel" after build/install world/kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:14:44 EDT." <14717.48372.534815.567538@knock.econ.vt.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:46:35 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:14:44 -0400 (EDT) > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > I seem to have shot myself in the foot. I ran cvsup, buildworld, > installworld, buildkernel, and installkernel yesterday on my laptop as > well as my desktop. The laptop will no longer boot FreeBSD; the > desktop is fine. The laptop shows: > > F1 DOS > F2 FreeBSD > > Default: F2 > > BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 > Console: internal video/keryboard > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive C: is disk1 > BIOS 639kB/64448kB available memory > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 > (root@clifden.econ.vt.edu, Mon Jul 24 14.53.22 EDT 2000) > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key ofr command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > can't load 'kernel' > can't load 'kernel.old' > > ok ls > open '/' failed: no such file or directory > ok lsdev > disk @0x10738 > disk0: BIOS drive A > disk1: BIOS drive C > pxe @ 0xe4dc > > The machine boots up in W95. > > The machine was running 4.0-Stable from a few weeks ago. > > I have a script which runs the sequence of build/install steps; the > script on the laptop stopped because the laptop was running under a > different machine name than usual and so the script did not find the > kernel config file. I ran buildkernel and installkernel by hand for > my kernel config file and for GENERIC. I believe I followed the > UPDATING instructions (but something's not working, so I probably > missed something). > > Any suggestions? You say you did a buildkernel. Did you specify a kernel name? If not, you can try GENERIC. Boot to the boot prompt ("ok") and enter "boot GENERIC -s". That should load and boot a kernel named 'GENERIC'. If you specified a kernel name to buildkernel and installkernel, use that name in place of 'GENERIC'. You can always boot this way, although, if the 'kernel' file exists, you need to so an 'unload' before booting. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 9:51:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F56537B68D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:51:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E144B1C6F; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:51:38 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Tony Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable 3.5 Message-ID: <20000725125138.F51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <005201bff62b$38109260$0a00a8c0@ett> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <005201bff62b$38109260$0a00a8c0@ett>; from anthonymo_tse@email.msn.com on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 07:26:46AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 07:26:46AM -0400, Tony wrote: > should I be reading a particular edition of fbsd-stable for 3.5 or are they > all bunched together? This mailing list covers both RELENG_3 and RELENG_4. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:11:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CCE37B76D; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.255.97.47]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000725181037.CRBA3760.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:10:37 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01218; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:11:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:11:14 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: David Uhring Cc: Jim Mock , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000725181114.B236@parish> References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000725012953.G236@parish> <001701bff5fc$f0cb9220$0400a8c0@uhring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <001701bff5fc$f0cb9220$0400a8c0@uhring.com>; from duhring@charter.net on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 12:55:25AM -0500 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 12:55:25AM -0500, David Uhring wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Ovens" > To: "Jim Mock" > Cc: "Andreas Ntaflos" ; > > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? > > [snip] > > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > > there. > > [snip] > > http://real.com Click on Radio Stations on the left side of the page, then > select your choice of music. OK, I picked the first one, "Rock 'n' Roll At Your Fingertips" > RP should come up and indicate "contacting". Yes, it did, but after trying for ~10 secs a pop-up appeared: Some components are not available to provide playback of this presentation on your system" Clicking "More Info" took me to http://service.real.com/errors/more_information.html?errorid=notdef&hurlid=75618157 and this message: RealSystem G2 Messages This is an infrequently occurring error message, and therefore we have not provided a solution in this list. Please send e-mail to Technical Support using the Support Request form. In your request, please include the error message text as well as what you were doing just prior to the message's appearance. I've changed all instances of ``%u'' to ``%s'' as recommended by someone else. BTW, the original problem of it just playing "Welcome.rm" was because I hadn't realized that the 2 scripts, pluginstall.sh and postinstall.sh were per-user and had only run them as root. I'm still trying to find a .rpm file to fire up the plugin. I'm beginning to think that RealPlayer is a load of crap > If it doesn't, check your > mime-types in Netscape/Edit/ > Preferences/Navigator/Applications. If all else fails, download the > RealPlayer8 Basic for Redhat, > the binary executable version, not the rpm. Make the file executable chmod > +x and run it. It works > and works just fine. You will get a SEGFAULT after completing the install > and registration crap, > don't worry about it. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:27:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown1-2-223.adsl.one.net [216.23.20.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9537B933 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06690; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:35:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:35:38 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Message-ID: <20000725133538.A6627@cokane.yi.org> References: <20000725043919.26222.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000725043919.26222.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com>; from op4l@yahoo.com on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 12:40:17AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG XFree86-4 has been updated to the newest version. It has a kld named tdfx.ko that must be installed into /modules/. When you load X, it will load dri, agp, and tdfx all for you. There is also a 3dfx.ko to work with /dev/3dfx. This is provided to support device accesses for glide programs, like quake3 and all. It currently has some issues with the Voodoo3 and Banshee hardware, but I could use another tester. It is part of -CURRENT, and will most likely panic your box, but some output sent to me about the crash would be helpful. Actually, if anyone has an old agp 3dfx card they'dl ike to donate for this development, it would be helpful. I have been testing it with my voodoo2 board with much success, but I have had some responses from users with Voodoo3's that say that they haven't gotten it to work. Nawfal M. Rouyan had the audacity to say: > > hi all, > How do one make use of the new agp driver? > Recently, there were discussions on the new 3dfx > driver. Where can i get it? is it in the base system already? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail ? Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:35:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF1537B6DD for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:35:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA05558; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:34:36 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00748; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:31:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007251731.NAA00748@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations To: Dave Glowacki Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200007242204.RAA29279@hyde.ssec.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, Dave Glowacki wrote: = > On 24 Jul, Wilko Bulte wrote: = > = AFAIK the FreeBSD project tries to take gcc & friends as-is as = > = much as possible. = > = > As I've indicated a couple of times, I personally found an = > optimization bug non-reproduceable on Linux (Mandrake). [...] = But is it non-reproduceable? Take a look at the PR I mentioned already: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19245 = Were both FreeBSD and Mandrake using the exact same version of gcc? = Did the Mandrake version have any Linux-specific patches applied? At least, gcc -v shows nothing special. It is all in the PR. If Mandrake does apply some fixes, may be, FreeBSD needs to do so too? This is worth investigating, instead of discounting with "don't use optimization". -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:43:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d170.stk.cwnet.com [205.162.108.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4677637B707; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5B6D6; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397DD1A6.442F858A@es.co.nz> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:43:02 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: pci error messages when using SB Live after update to 4.1-RC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just cvsup'd and rebuilt to 4.1-RC from 4.0-S as of about a month and a half ago, and am noticing some odd messages when playing anything with the SB Live in this machine. Firstly, the pcm line from boot: pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 18 at device 11.0 on pci0 ... and /dev/sndstat: FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 25 2000 01:50:41 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xc800 irq 18 (4p/3r channels duplex) Whenever I play a sound I recieve this message: pcm0: pci error pcm0: pci error It doesn't seem to affect the playback at all (although I've noticed some very subtle crackling -- an artifact that isn't occuring with regularity however and is almost indetectable so it's not a great concern, but could there be a correlation??) Is there any way I can get more detailed output of pcm0's activity so that this might be easier for someone to debug? (is this even a problem, or a message to ignore?) -mike. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:45:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d170.stk.cwnet.com [205.162.108.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C3B37B78E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF281D6; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397DD213.D83F9156@es.co.nz> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:44:51 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Coleman Kane , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx References: <20000725043919.26222.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> <20000725133538.A6627@cokane.yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Coleman Kane wrote: > > XFree86-4 has been updated to the newest version. It has a kld named > tdfx.ko that must be installed into /modules/. When you load X, it will > load dri, agp, and tdfx all for you. There is also a 3dfx.ko to work > with /dev/3dfx. This is provided to support device accesses for glide > programs, like quake3 and all. It currently has some issues with the > Voodoo3 and Banshee hardware, but I could use another tester. It is part > of -CURRENT, and will most likely panic your box, but some output sent > to me about the crash would be helpful. Actually, if anyone has an old > agp 3dfx card they'dl ike to donate for this development, it would be > helpful. I have been testing it with my voodoo2 board with much success, > but I have had some responses from users with Voodoo3's that say that > they haven't gotten it to work. What about Nvidia's 5.xx linux driver effort... what kind of effort would be required to get that running on FreeBSD? -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:47:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.teleport.com (relay1.teleport.com [192.108.254.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 470BA37B86E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joes@teleport.com) Received: (qmail 27849 invoked by uid 5); 25 Jul 2000 17:47:08 -0000 Received: from 149.196.6.64.reflexcom.com(64.6.196.149), claiming to be "joes" via SMTP by relay1.teleport.com, id smtpdAAA02iMlK; Tue Jul 25 10:47:05 2000 Message-ID: <029e01bff660$58349e80$0100a8c0@wstein.com> From: "Joseph Stein" To: Subject: Fw: Problems booting stable/4.1-RC. Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:47:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This concerns stable, was posted on -questions several days ago, and still no response. Does anyone here have any ideas? To summarize the problem: Occasionally (frequently(!)) this system will NOT boot; and locks up trying to reinitialize the ATA drive. The kernel IS read, and it gets to the point of "mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a", then freezes. 1 out of 10 boots actually work, although it cycles through "resetting ATA devices" up to 4 times and always chooses PIO mode. Is there a way to FORCE PIO mode? (I know about the sysctl, and I know about the settings once multi-user is going; however this happens when trying to call init, I think...) joe > I used to have an AMD 4x86-120 with 72mb of Ram. I finally gave up on > waiting a day and a half to "buildworld", and upgraded the whole machine to > an AMD K7-Athlon-600MHz with 128MB. Boy. Two hours, and the world is built > AND installed :) > > But, I have a problem. > > When the bootloader starts up, it starts booting properly, BUT, when it gets > to the point where it is "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a," it seems to > have a problem using WDMA2. I believe this stems from the fact that this > disk was originally installed in an old 486 (that did not support DMA at all, that I > know of). The new disk was newfs'd in the same computer though, and I don't > know how to explain that it works :) (The old disk is ad0, the new disk is > ad1). > > I have found all of the settings to set 'pio mode' once the system is going > to multi-user; but I can't find anything to force PIO mode on boot -- when > sometimes, it succeeds and produces like data to the data below, but more > often than not, locks up trying to reset the ata devices. > > Any ideas, help, suggestions? > > For the record, this is > FreeBSD shasta.wstein.com 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Fri Jul 21 18:56:26 PDT > 2000 root@shasta.wstein.com:/b/obj/usr/src/sys/SHASTA i386 > > and it was a fresh-cvsup as of about Thu Jul 20 20:00:00 PDT 2000. > > (the 3.whatever-STABLE that was on the original disk booted just fine, BTW, > so it is something new in 4.0-STABLE/4.1-RC.) > > Thanks in advance for any help, > > joe > > Here follows some verbose boot information: > > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Fri Jul 21 18:56:26 PDT 2000 > root@shasta.wstein.com:/b/obj/usr/src/sys/SHASTA > Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 598797642 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193104 Hz > CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method > CPU: AMD-K7(tm) Processor (598.84-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x612 Stepping = 2 > > Features=0x81f9ff AT,MMX> > AMD Features=0xc0400000 > Data TLB: 24 entries, fully associative > Instruction TLB: 16 entries, fully associative > L1 data cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative > L1 instruction cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way > associative > L2 internal cache: 512 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative > real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) > Physical memory chunk(s): > 0x00001000 - 0x0009ffff, 651264 bytes (159 pages) > 0x00353000 - 0x07fe7fff, 130633728 bytes (31893 pages) > avail memory = 127205376 (124224K bytes) > bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fb180 > bios32: Entry = 0xfb5f0 (c00fb5f0) Rev = 0 Len = 1 > pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xb620 > pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fbfb0 > pnpbios: Entry = f0000:bfe0 Rev = 1.0 > Other BIOS signatures found: > ACPI: 000f5fc0 > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc033a000. > Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xc033a0a8. > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > md0: Malloc disk > Creating DISK md0 > module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (splash_bmp, c03357d4, 0) error 2 > Math emulator present > pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80003840 > pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) > pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=80] is there (id=70061022) > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 > pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) > pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=80] is there (id=70061022) > pcib0: on motherboard > found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x7006, revid=0x25 > class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base d0000000, size 27 > map[14]: type 1, range 32, base e0000000, size 12 > found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x7007, revid=0x01 > class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=1 > subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 > found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x7408, revid=0x01 > class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x7409, revid=0x03 > class=01-01-8a, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000f000, size 4 > found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x740b, revid=0x03 > class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > found-> vendor=0x1022, dev=0x740c, revid=0x06 > class=0c-03-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=d, irq=5 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e0001000, size 12 > found-> vendor=0x10ec, dev=0x8139, revid=0x10 > class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=a, irq=10 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000e400, size 8 > map[14]: type 1, range 32, base e0002000, size 8 > found-> vendor=0x10ec, dev=0x8139, revid=0x10 > class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=a, irq=11 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000e800, size 8 > map[14]: type 1, range 32, base e0003000, size 8 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > found-> vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8a13, revid=0x02 > class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=a, irq=12 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base d8000000, size 26 > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: (vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8a13) at 5.0 > irq 12 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 > ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xf000 > ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata0: mask=03 status0=52 status1=50 > ata0: devices = 0x3 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 > ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xf008 > ata1: mask=03 status0=20 status1=30 > ata1: mask=03 status0=20 status1=30 > ata1: devices = 0x0 > ata1: probe allocation failed > chip1: at device 7.3 on pci0 > ohci0: mem 0xe0001000-0xe0001fff irq 5 at device > 7.4 on pci0 > usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support > usb0: on ohci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > rl0: port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem > 0xe0002000-0xe00020ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 > rl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:85:e0:58 > miibus0: on rl0 > rlphy0: on miibus0 > rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > bpf: rl0 attached > rl1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem > 0xe0003000-0xe00030ff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 > rl1: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:8b:22:65 > miibus1: on rl1 > rlphy1: on miibus1 > rlphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > bpf: rl1 attached > ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number > ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number > Trying Read_Port at 203 > Trying Read_Port at 243 > Trying Read_Port at 283 > Trying Read_Port at 2c3 > Trying Read_Port at 303 > Trying Read_Port at 343 > Trying Read_Port at 383 > Trying Read_Port at 3c3 > isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices > isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 > ata3: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0x0000 > ata3: mask=03 status0=20 status1=30 > ata3: mask=03 status0=20 status1=30 > ata3: devices = 0x0 > ata3: probe allocation failed > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 > atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0067 > atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) > kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa > kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa > kbd0 at atkbd0 > kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x1, flags:0x3d0000 > psm0: current command byte:0067 > kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:ffffffff > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:ffffffff > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:ffffffff > kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 > kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 > psm0: failed to reset the aux device. > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f > fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 > fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 > fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k > VGA parameters upon power-up > 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 > bf 1f 00 4f 0e 0f 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 > b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c > 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff > VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 > 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 > bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 > b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c > 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff > EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 > 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 > bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 > b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c > 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) > sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x11 0x11 > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x9 0x9 0x9 > sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 > sio1: type 16550A > ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 > ppc0: using extended I/O port range > ppc0: SPP > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > plip0: on ppbus0 > bpf: lp0 attached > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > BIOS Geometries: > 0:03a67f3f 0..934=935 cylinders, 0..127=128 heads, 1..63=63 sectors > 1:020bfe3f 0..523=524 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors > 0 accounted for > Device configuration finished. > bpf: faith0 attached > bpf: gif0 attached > bpf: gif1 attached > bpf: gif2 attached > bpf: gif3 attached > bpf: lo0 attached > bpf: ppp0 attached > new masks: bio 684060, tty 63009a, net 670c9a > bpf: sl0 attached > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding > disabled, default to accept, logging disabled > IP Filter: v3.4.8 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = disabled > ata0-master: success setting up WDMA2 mode on AMD chip > ad0: ATA-0 disk at ata0 as master > ad0: 3681MB (7539840 sectors), 7480 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, WDMA2 > ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 cblid=0 > Creating DISK ad0 > Creating DISK wd0 > ata0-slave: success setting up UDMA4 mode on AMD chip > ad1: ATA-4 disk at ata0 as slave > ad1: 4110MB (8418816 sectors), 14848 cyls, 9 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA66 > ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=4 cblid=1 > Creating DISK ad1 > Creating DISK wd1 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata0-master: success setting up WDMA2 mode on AMD chip > ata0-slave: success setting up UDMA4 mode on AMD chip > done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata0-master: success setting up WDMA2 mode on AMD chip > ata0-slave: success setting up UDMA4 mode on AMD chip > done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0: resetting devices .. ata0: mask=03 status0=52 status1=50 > ata0-master: success setting up WDMA2 mode on AMD chip > ata0-slave: success setting up UDMA4 mode on AMD chip > done > ad0: READ command timeout - resetting > ata0-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA > ata0-master: success setting up PIO4 mode on generic chip > ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode > ata0: resetting devices .. ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 > ata0-master: success setting up PIO4 mode on generic chip > ata0-slave: success setting up UDMA4 mode on AMD chip > done > ad0s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 7539839, size 7539840 > ad0s1: C/H/S end 469/84/63 (2516849) != end 7539839: invalid > start_init: trying /sbin/init > Linux-ELF exec handler installed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:49:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6248637B717 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14735; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:35:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:35:46 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: <7661.964529019@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Just a heads-up to say that the last few issues have been dealt with > and it looks like we're on target for a July 25th, 18:00 PDT (Pacific > Daylight Time) tag and (as soon as that's finished) release operation. > > I'll be putting the i386 and alpha bits together throughout the night > and will be shooting for some FTPable / ISO image bits on ftp.freebsd.org > by early morning (the 26th). I've attempted to send a couple of messages to stable during the past few days, but the upgrade to 4.1 RC0 nuked my sendmail.cf; therefore my address rewriting rules are gone and I imagine the messages were quietly round-filed as a result. I've seen a couple of problems with some of the ports, one of which was caused by a recent commit in /src/sys/net/if_var.h. Here is the list: 1. GIMP does not compile. It fails while trying to build libgnomeui in the gnomelibs package. I've already filed a PR for this. 2. VMWare does not compile. It fails in vmnet, tripping over the altered signature to ether_ifattach() in the newly-committed /src/sys/net/if_var.h. If you look at the diff, you'll see that an extra int parameter has been added. And, of course, the deletion of my sendmail.cf was rather annoying, but I can fix that easily enough. I don't think that either of these are showstoppers, but item #2 is rather troubling to those people who use VMWare heavily--especially when they're beset by those lost souls who push Linux all the time. :-( I have not yet filed a PR for the VMWare problem. I thought I might try to cook up a patch first, if I can find some time. Regards, Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 10:59: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B7A37B7AC for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:58:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01423; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:58:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.54625.148495.28207@knock.econ.vt.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:58:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Kevin Oberman Cc: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com, FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "can't load kernel" after build/install world/kernel In-Reply-To: <200007251646.e6PGkZU26543@ptavv.es.net> References: <14717.48372.534815.567538@knock.econ.vt.edu> <200007251646.e6PGkZU26543@ptavv.es.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think the problem is elsewhere: as indicated below, I can't see *anything*. There should be kernel, kernel.old, kernel.GENERIC, and kernel.GENERIC.old, but boot always generates: can't find '' John Reynolds suggested that I might have something odd in /boot/loader.conf; it's quite possible, but it seems more likely that I've somehow made / unreachable (??). Russ According to Kevin Oberman (July 25, 2000): | > ok ls | > open '/' failed: no such file or directory | | You say you did a buildkernel. Did you specify a kernel name? If not, | you can try GENERIC. | | Boot to the boot prompt ("ok") and enter "boot GENERIC -s". That | should load and boot a kernel named 'GENERIC'. If you specified a | kernel name to buildkernel and installkernel, use that name in place | of 'GENERIC'. -- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 3034 Pamplin Hall Blacksburg, Virginia 24061-0316 (540) 231-4537 rdmurphy@vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11: 4:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507E537B73A for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:04:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id SAA10034; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:03:50 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA07305; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:04:04 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id OAA18921; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:04:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14717.54931.427993.642543@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:04:03 -0700 (MST) To: Chris BeHanna Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: References: <7661.964529019@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, July 25, Chris BeHanna wrote: ] > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > 2. VMWare does not compile. It fails in vmnet, tripping over > the altered signature to ether_ifattach() in the > newly-committed /src/sys/net/if_var.h. If you look at the > diff, you'll see that an extra int parameter has been added. > > I don't think that either of these are showstoppers, but item #2 > is rather troubling to those people who use VMWare heavily--especially > when they're beset by those lost souls who push Linux all the > time. :-( > > I have not yet filed a PR for the VMWare problem. I thought I > might try to cook up a patch first, if I can find some time. Which version of VMWare? I CVSup'ed RELENG_4 and the ports last night (and rebuilt and installed world and kernels) and I can confirm that I -CAN- build VMWare. The port was updated to vmware2-2.0.2.621 from vmware2-2.0.1.570 and I don't have any troubles building the KLDs. Can't comment on the GIMP compile though ... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11:25: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from entropy.tmok.com (entropy.tmok.com [204.17.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 911C137B75C for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wonko@entropy.tmok.com) Received: (from wonko@localhost) by entropy.tmok.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA98614; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:27:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hechinger Message-Id: <200007251827.OAA98614@entropy.tmok.com> Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <20000724202712.A62709@relativity.student.utwente.nl> from Dave Boers at "Jul 24, 2000 8:27:12 pm" To: djb@ifa.au.dk Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, dl@tyfon.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com X-Useless-Header: why? because i can. X-Organization: The Ministry of Knowledge X-Dreams: an OpenWin that is based on current MIT X11 releases X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dave Boers drunkenly mumbled... > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 10:03:40AM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > > I've seen '-fexpensive-optimizations' break havoc in the squid binary, > > so I no longer use it for anything, but '-mcpu=i686 -march=i686' seems > > fine to me and tells the compiler that your only target processor is of > > the 686 class. If you are not planning to debug the thing, add > > '-fomit-frame-pointer'. > > You appear to be right. I just verified dat my 4.1-stable indeed builds > fine with -mcpu=686 and -march=i686 (on SMP dual Celeron). just to stir the pool a little bit more: -Os -pipe -march=pentiumpro -funroll-loops -fschedule-insns2 FreeBSD wintermute.half.com 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Tue Jul 25 12:15:52 EST 2000 wonko@wintermute.half.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WINTERMUTE i386 for a while there, these didn't work with -stable, but now they work again. i still build my production boxes with -O -pipe, but my desktop takes a beating as i try and break it as much as i can. all in the name of scientific research of course. :) -b To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11:37:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.pit.adelphia.net (alpha.pit.adelphia.net [24.48.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C1037B75C; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nturki@adelphia.net) Received: from b3s8t6 (pa-indiana1b-27.pit.adelphia.net [24.50.155.27]) by alpha.pit.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA26172; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002601bff667$c43a9060$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> From: "Nader Turki" To: Cc: Subject: Dual Processors Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:40:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, My machine is a: PII400MHz 512MB ECC PC100 SDRAM 9.1GB SCSI Ultra2 LVD 36.4GB SCSI Ultra2 LVD I'm using the machine as a shell/web server it's pretty fast and nice. I was thinking to upgrade to a Dual PII400MHz ... Will my machine be faster with a Dual PII400MHz? I mean will I be able to tell the difference? If yes ... will there be a big difference? Hope someone answer me soon. Thanks, Nader To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11:40:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8AE37B81A for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.yourfit.com) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15258; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:26:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:26:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna To: John Reynolds~ Cc: Chris BeHanna , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: <14717.54931.427993.642543@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, John Reynolds~ wrote: > [ On Tuesday, July 25, Chris BeHanna wrote: ] > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > 2. VMWare does not compile. It fails in vmnet, tripping over > > the altered signature to ether_ifattach() in the > > newly-committed /src/sys/net/if_var.h. If you look at the > > diff, you'll see that an extra int parameter has been added. > > > > I don't think that either of these are showstoppers, but item #2 > > is rather troubling to those people who use VMWare heavily--especially > > when they're beset by those lost souls who push Linux all the > > time. :-( > > > > I have not yet filed a PR for the VMWare problem. I thought I > > might try to cook up a patch first, if I can find some time. > > Which version of VMWare? Both of whatever were in ports/vmware and ports/vmware2 as of 7/19/2000. > I CVSup'ed RELENG_4 and the ports last night (and rebuilt and installed world > and kernels) and I can confirm that I -CAN- build VMWare. The port was updated > to vmware2-2.0.2.621 from vmware2-2.0.1.570 and I don't have any troubles > building the KLDs. I guess this was fixed between 570 and 621, then. I'll try a cvsup and report back. > Can't comment on the GIMP compile though ... It's pretty unfortunate. GIMP is a helluva nice program. Once I get VMWare up (to keep the wife happy), I can do a little digging in the gnomelib source. Thanks muchly, -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11:45:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458E737B8B8; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e6PIijv05656; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@q.closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Nader Turki Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processors In-Reply-To: <002601bff667$c43a9060$1b9b3218@pit.adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > Hi there, > My machine is a: > PII400MHz > 512MB ECC PC100 SDRAM > 9.1GB SCSI Ultra2 LVD > 36.4GB SCSI Ultra2 LVD > > I'm using the machine as a shell/web server it's pretty fast and nice. > I was thinking to upgrade to a Dual PII400MHz ... Will my machine be faster > with a Dual PII400MHz? I mean will I be able to tell the difference? If yes > ... will there be a big difference? Hope someone answer me soon. The performance increase depends on if the application(s) that you use are multi-threaded capable and if they are CPU intensive enough to matter. Having a second processor is nice to off-load some processing cycles to the other processor, leaving more cycles available on the primary processor for more important tasks (like RC5 :) In most cases, having a second processor in a web server is wasteful, but if you also run back-end applications (like database, web applications, etc.) it might help. // Linh Pham // http://closedsrc.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11:48:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DD937B933 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:48:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA81617; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:47:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200007251847.UAA81617@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: from Chris BeHanna at "Jul 25, 2000 02:26:52 pm" To: Chris BeHanna Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:47:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: John Reynolds~ , Chris BeHanna , stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just wonder, why the 4.1-RC2 install image does not include tcpdump in the set of standard binaries ? Sources are there ... cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 11:50:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A66237B8CD for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18423; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:50:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007251850.LAA18423@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: make all fails (ctm src-4 109) In-Reply-To: from Dominik Brettnacher at "Jul 25, 0 01:39:02 pm" To: db@saargate.de (Dominik Brettnacher) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:50:50 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > chad@DCFinc.com schreibt: >>> as described in jail(8), I tried to do a "make all" in /usr/src, but >>> it failed as follows: >>Doing "make all" in /usr/src is specifically disallowed. You >>probably wanted to do "make buildworld". > > So why does jail(8) mention "make all" instead of buildworld? Does > installworld also use "DESTDIR"? Ummm... Dunno. I don't use jail(8). But /usr/src/Makefile lists the targets provided for general use. Others exist, mostly for testing or special circumstances. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 12: 0:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBBD37BBE7 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA07860 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:59:33 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01180 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:56:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007251856.OAA01180@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Promise-100 boards support -- too late? To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=koi8-u Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The simple-minded patch by Boris Staeblow (quoted again below) did the job for use -- the adaptors (all three of them) and the disks are recognized properly. The disks are newfs-ing right now (at 14Mb/s !). Perhaps, a note can go into Release Notes? Like: * the preliminary support for the Promise ATA100 boards exists, but appeared too late to be included into this release and the ATA100 speeds are not yet available. Get a patch from ........ and rebuild your kernel -mi diff -ru ata.orig/ata-all.c ata/ata-all.c --- ata.orig/ata-all.c Tue Jun 13 22:03:38 2000 +++ ata/ata-all.c Wed Jul 12 21:40:25 2000 @@ -294,6 +294,9 @@ case 0x4d38105a: return "Promise ATA66 controller"; + case 0x4d30105a: + return "Promise ATA100 controller"; + case 0x00041103: return "HighPoint HPT366 ATA66 controller"; @@ -379,7 +382,7 @@ device_printf(dev, "Busmastering DMA not enabled\n"); } else { - if (type == 0x4d33105a || type == 0x4d38105a || type == 0x00041103) { + if (type == 0x4d33105a || type == 0x4d38105a || type == 0x4d30105a || type == 0x00041103) { /* Promise and HPT366 controllers support busmastering DMA */ rid = 0x20; sc->bmio = bus_alloc_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, &rid, @@ -397,6 +400,7 @@ (pci_read_config(dev, 0x53, 1) & ~0x01) | 0x02, 1); break; + case 0x4d30105a: case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's need their clock changed */ outb(rman_get_start(sc->bmio) + 0x11, inb(rman_get_start(sc->bmio) + 0x11) | 0x0a); @@ -1094,6 +1098,7 @@ case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise 33's */ case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's */ + case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100´s */ { struct ata_pci_softc *sc=device_get_softc(device_get_parent(scp->dev)); diff -ru ata.orig/ata-dma.c ata/ata-dma.c --- ata.orig/ata-dma.c Tue Jun 13 22:03:39 2000 +++ ata/ata-dma.c Wed Jul 12 22:12:01 2000 @@ -442,6 +442,7 @@ /* we could set PIO mode timings, but we assume the BIOS did that */ break; + case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise Ultra100 / FastTrak100 controllers */ case 0x4d33105a: /* Promise Ultra33 / FastTrak33 controllers */ case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise Ultra66 / FastTrak66 controllers */ /* the Promise can only do DMA on ATA disks not on ATAPI devices */ @@ -449,7 +450,7 @@ (device == ATA_SLAVE && scp->devices & ATA_ATAPI_SLAVE)) break; - if (udmamode >=4 && scp->chiptype == 0x4d38105a && + if (udmamode >=4 && (scp->chiptype == 0x4d38105a || scp->chiptype == 0x4d30105a) && !(pci_read_config(parent, 0x50, 2)&(scp->unit ? 1<<11 : 1<<10))) { error = ata_command(scp, device, ATA_C_SETFEATURES, 0, 0, 0, ATA_UDMA4, ATA_C_F_SETXFER, ATA_WAIT_READY); @@ -708,6 +709,7 @@ break; case 0x4d38105a: /* Promise 66's */ + case 0x4d30105a: /* Promise 100´s */ switch (mode) { default: case ATA_PIO0: t->pa = 15; t->pb = 31; t->mb = 7; t->mc = 15; break; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 12: 2:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B737C37B878 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0362B1C6F; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:02:47 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Chris BeHanna , John Reynolds~ , Chris BeHanna , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT Message-ID: <20000725150247.L51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200007251847.UAA81617@info.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007251847.UAA81617@info.iet.unipi.it>; from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 08:47:38PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > Just wonder, why the 4.1-RC2 install image does not include tcpdump > in the set of standard binaries ? Sources are there ... Crypto bogon, this occured in 4.0-RELEASE as well and I was told I was smoking crack. It seems that I'm still on that high or it's still broken. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 12: 3: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEF337BE99 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18524; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:02:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007251902.MAA18524@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <14717.41772.598390.393160@onceler.kcilink.com> from Vivek Khera at "Jul 25, 0 10:24:44 am" To: khera@kciLink.com (Vivek Khera) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:02:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: leif@neland.dk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Vivek Khera wrote: > Use rdist6 (from ports) with SSH as your transport. You'll need to > install rdist6 on each system. If you've got SSH built, you could use scp (secure copy). It's easier to use than rdist. You use it just like rcp, except it uses SHH for a secure connection. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 12: 3:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E7037BAE6; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13H9yn-000J4W-00; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:03:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:02:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Linh Pham Cc: Nader Turki , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Nader Turki wrote: > > > Hi there, > > My machine is a: > > PII400MHz > > 512MB ECC PC100 SDRAM > > 9.1GB SCSI Ultra2 LVD > > 36.4GB SCSI Ultra2 LVD > > > > I'm using the machine as a shell/web server it's pretty fast and nice. > > I was thinking to upgrade to a Dual PII400MHz ... Will my machine be faster > > with a Dual PII400MHz? I mean will I be able to tell the difference? If yes > > ... will there be a big difference? Hope someone answer me soon. > > The performance increase depends on if the application(s) that you use are > multi-threaded capable and if they are CPU intensive enough to matter. > > Having a second processor is nice to off-load some processing cycles to > the other processor, leaving more cycles available on the primary > processor for more important tasks (like RC5 :) > > In most cases, having a second processor in a web server is wasteful, but > if you also run back-end applications (like database, web applications, > etc.) it might help. > > // Linh Pham > // http://closedsrc.org Multi-threadedness isn't going to affect multiple CPU usage at all. If you have multiple processes that are able to run, they will be able to run in parrallel. Since FreeBSD uses SMP, there is no "primary" and "secondary" processors. Processor use is symentrical. Since web servers employ multiple processes (Apache), it most definitely can use multiple CPUs efficiently. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 12:26: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DF137BD66 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02317; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007251925.MAA02317@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: from Chris BeHanna at "Jul 25, 2000 02:26:52 pm" To: Chris BeHanna Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > Can't comment on the GIMP compile though ... > > It's pretty unfortunate. GIMP is a helluva nice program. Once > I get VMWare up (to keep the wife happy), I can do a little digging > in the gnomelib source. GIMP isn't broken. Perhaps your ports tree is out of date: [12:24:21] (ttyp1) jhb@bento:...4.1R/packages/All > dir gimp-1.1.24.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6264335 Jul 20 07:49 gimp-1.1.24.tgz That is the gimp package going on the CD's and was built with the RELEASE_4_1_0 tagged ports. > Thanks muchly, > -- > Chris BeHanna > Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) > behanna@zbzoom.net -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 12:35:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832A037B916 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02824; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007251934.MAA02824@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: <200007251847.UAA81617@info.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Jul 25, 2000 08:47:38 pm" To: Luigi Rizzo Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: > Just wonder, why the 4.1-RC2 install image does not include tcpdump > in the set of standard binaries ? Sources are there ... > > cheers > luigi Is it in the crypto dist? I believe we ran into this with 4.0 as well because tcpdump linked against some crypto library. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 13:44:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96D837B864; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA85972; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Tony Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable 3.5 In-Reply-To: <005201bff62b$38109260$0a00a8c0@ett> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Tony wrote: > should I be reading a particular edition of fbsd-stable for 3.5 or are they > all bunched together? 3.5 is for all intents and purposes a dead branch except for security fixes and critical bugfixes which developers are motivated to backport. You should have no problems with the current version beyond any which are intrinsic to the 3.x branch :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 13:46:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02ED37B7F1; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA86150; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Rasmus Skaarup Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fail (at) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > ** snip snip ** > ===> usr.bin/at > ".depend", line 3: Need an operator You have something wrong with your usr.bin/at/Makefile, it looks like. Check you haven't locally modified the file - if you're using CVS to update, you may have a CVS conflict in this file (look for <<< and >>> markers) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 13:49:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A142D37B7F1; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA86381; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Chris BeHanna Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote: > which was caused by a recent commit in /src/sys/net/if_var.h. Here is > the list: Please check with the very latest sources if you are able - 4.1-RC was quite the moving target during the past week or tw. I believe these problems may have been fixed (they were caused by some dubious and overenthusiastic merges) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 13:57: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554D337B8CC; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:57:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA87096; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:57:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:57:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: John Baldwin Cc: Luigi Rizzo , jkh@freebsd.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDT In-Reply-To: <200007251934.MAA02824@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > Just wonder, why the 4.1-RC2 install image does not include tcpdump > > in the set of standard binaries ? Sources are there ... > > > > cheers > > luigi > > Is it in the crypto dist? I believe we ran into this with 4.0 as well > because tcpdump linked against some crypto library. *sigh* I thought this got fixed after 4.0-R. Does this patch look correct, John? I'm not sure if there are any other utilities in the same situation (both crypto/non-crypto versions) Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.536.2.17 diff -u -r1.536.2.17 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/07/25 08:16:37 1.536.2.17 +++ Makefile 2000/07/25 20:54:50 @@ -406,7 +406,7 @@ # release.5: # Handle some grief caused by the munition braindeadness. - for i in sbin/init bin/ed usr.sbin/ppp usr.sbin/pppd ; do \ + for i in sbin/init bin/ed usr.sbin/ppp usr.sbin/pppd usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump; do \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/../$$i; \ make -DNOCRYPT clean all distribute DISTDIR=${RD}/trees ) ; \ done Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 14: 7: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A0837B6DD; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:07:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6PL70U16637; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007252107.e6PL70U16637@ptavv.es.net> To: Mark Ovens Cc: David Uhring , Jim Mock , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:11:14 BST." <20000725181114.B236@parish> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:07:00 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jackpot! I have it working on my ThinkPad! Problems: Had to MAKEDEV snd1. (I had thought my audio card was on the ISA and dmesg does show pcm0 audio card, but it also says that the codec is missing. Another audio device shows up on pcm1, so the MAKEDEV. Next I brought up the mixer (I use KDE) and turned up the volume for the PCM device. That resulted in actual sound out of the speaker. Nothing like the correct sound, but it was progress. Next I took the suggestion of going into View->Preferences and, in the 'Performance' page, selecting "Enable support for old OSS drivers (Linux only)". No improvement. Still garbage! I went back to that page and click 'Settings..." and selected "Disable custom sampling rates". Jackpot! I had music! Hope this works for others. I believe most of the things are specific to ThinkPads, but I suspect that the 'Performance' settings are very important. (And remembering to turn up the volume on the mixer is pretty important, too.) Also, don't forget that each user must run mimeinstall.sh and pluginstall.sh in /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer7/ if RealPlayer and Netscape are to get along. Hope this helps a few folks. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 14:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EDE37B980 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@veriohosting.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma016835; Tue, 25 Jul 00 15:20:00 -0600 Received: from vespa.orem.iserver.com (vespa.orem.iserver.com [192.168.1.144]) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id PAA86647; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:19:59 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:29:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-Sender: fred@vespa.orem.iserver.com To: John Baldwin Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <200007232030.NAA23028@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > the geometry of a disk. At the very least, dangerously dedicated mode > should specify a valid length for the slice the way that truly dedicated > mode does so that if you ever need to stick a dedicated disk in another > computer for some reason, it doesn't see that all but the first 25,000k as > being free and happily reformat it for you or other nonsense. I whole-heartedly agree, and do this for all my dangerously dedicated installs. one disklabel command, and 30 seconds in fdisk are all that is needed to do this, or rather, less than a second of my time since I wrote a program to automate this piping input into fdisk, since the scripting stuff in fdisk is broken in some dumb ways... To top it off, this 'fixes' the problem that some bioses have with dedicated disks. Ie the bioses main source of confusion is the broken partition table entry that is put there when by disklabel... Fred -- Fred Clift - fred@veriohosting.com -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 14:27:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C04237B5C7 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@veriohosting.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma018927; Tue, 25 Jul 00 15:27:09 -0600 Received: from vespa.orem.iserver.com (vespa.orem.iserver.com [192.168.1.144]) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id PAA87279; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:36:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-Sender: fred@vespa.orem.iserver.com To: Isaac Waldron Cc: FreeBSD-Stable List Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <005a01bff4e5$3a9080a0$0100000a@waldron.house> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > problems that can happen if you don't use one. I think that the option for > a dedicated disk shouldn't even be presented in the novice install, one > should have to set an option in the appropriate screeen in sysinstall to get > a dangerously dedicated disk. Or even better, make it so that disklabel, when putting on the mbr automatically puts in a 'correct' partition table entry rather than the broken one it does now. -- Fred Clift - fred@veriohosting.com -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 14:34:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6553537B9F2 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@veriohosting.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:34:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma020949; Tue, 25 Jul 00 15:33:50 -0600 Received: from vespa.orem.iserver.com (vespa.orem.iserver.com [192.168.1.144]) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id PAA87944; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:33:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:42:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-Sender: fred@vespa.orem.iserver.com To: Doug White Cc: Mike Hoskins , Mikhail Teterin , Thomas Stromberg , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > reinstalled or somesuch? If so, that's quite a mess. If it keeps working > > as is, but only suggests the new way is better... that's livable. > > > > My BIOSes (6 systems here at home, all RELENG_4) work just fine with > > dangerously dedicated... > > Well, my BIOSen get mad, and we have Intel L440GX+ boards. The onboard > Adaptec really gets mad if ALL of the disks aren't sliced -- it crashes > boot2! put in a 'valid' partition table for your dedicated disks on your L440GX+ board based boxes and your problem will magically go away. I can send you the snippet of code I use to do this if you want it. Fred -- Fred Clift - fred@veriohosting.com -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 14:39:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3EC37B980 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA20837; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:39:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-100.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.100) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma020835; Tue Jul 25 16:39:14 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:38:01 -0500 To: Otter , Dave Boers From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:54 PM 7/24/00 +0000, Otter wrote: >what about the -march=pentiumpro flag? there's a bunch more >possibilities listed if you man gcc. keep in mind that the more opts you >add in, the longer it will take to compile something. And -march=pentiumpro differs from -march=i686 in what way? No sarcasm, just pointing this out since both have been mentioned. Using -march implies -mcpu, so '-march=X -mcpu=X' is the same as '-march=X'. Dropping the -mcpu means less clutter on the screen. Just as using i?86 does. When combined with anything above -O (-O2) will tend to blow up, either all the time or more often. From what I have seen/read this is not the case with just -mcpu=X. Throwing flags for fun isn't advised and in most cases the improvements are minimal. After reading the man pages, etc, some make sense to have (ie -march and -cpu). However, don't recall ever seeing any performance data. OTOH, there can be significant changes. Then one must decide if the program is used enough to justify the risk. Talking system here, not ports, which do their own thing in most cases, unless you have CFLAGS set. Most ports will take a -O2, but then you need to change it back before doing the world. Frankly I got tired of switching (and forgetting to) and just stick with '-O -pipe' and hack the ports as needed/desired. As mentioned it is also faster building world. AFAICR, about 15% faster using '-O -pipe' than '-O2 -pipe'. .02 Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 14:58:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA12B37B638; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:58:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from hamlet.nectar.com (hamlet.nectar.com [10.0.1.102]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1656A195F4; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:58:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nectar@localhost) by hamlet.nectar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00676; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:58:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:58:46 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Mark Ovens Cc: Jim Mock , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000725165846.B555@hamlet.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Mark Ovens , Jim Mock , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000725012953.G236@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000725012953.G236@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:29:53AM +0100 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:29:53AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > there. www.dwelle.de After installing RealPlayer 7, you should run pluginstall.sh and mimeinstall.sh in $PREFIX/lib/RealPlayer7. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 15:16:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown3-3-124.adsl.one.net [216.23.29.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20EA37BA0A for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07687; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:23:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:23:33 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Mike Muir Cc: Coleman Kane , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Message-ID: <20000725182333.B7611@cokane.yi.org> References: <20000725043919.26222.qmail@web1609.mail.yahoo.com> <20000725133538.A6627@cokane.yi.org> <397DD213.D83F9156@es.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <397DD213.D83F9156@es.co.nz>; from mmuir@es.co.nz on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:45:16PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The 3dfx cards do work under FreeBSD, just not using glide. XFree86 4+ uses DRI to accomplish its 3D acceleration. If you want to use glide games through linux emulation, you can either run them as root (not acceptable many times, at least for me :), or you will be able to use them with this driver once it gets the last bugs worked out. It works fine for Voodoo1's and 2's, just have some trouble with the resource setup on the Voodoo 3's. As far as the NVidia binary drivers go, I don't think they are planning any releases for FreeBSD. Personally, I don't want to endorse this sort of behavior from manufacturers like NVidia giving out binary-only drivers. I don't buy their cards because of that, and also because I can't afford them. There is a small amount of total IP that can be gotten from reading source code, and it is too small for a company to bother trying to parse through to understand. They'd wate too much time trying to figure it out, that it wouldn't matter once they were done. Anyway, I don't want to go out on a rant about lame business practices, the basic idea here is no, NVidia doesn't provide binary only drivers for FreeBSD, and we don't really care for the idea of closed source drivers. Closed source drivers just make it a pain for everyone to get work done from installation to associated programming (say, extensions to the drivers). I'm not gonna go into a holy war here or reveal what I think they are closing them for, but basically, they are not expected to come ever. You can simply use the included on in XFree86 4.0.1, which I think supposrts DRI. Mike Muir had the audacity to say: > > Coleman Kane wrote: > > > > XFree86-4 has been updated to the newest version. It has a kld named > > tdfx.ko that must be installed into /modules/. When you load X, it will > > load dri, agp, and tdfx all for you. There is also a 3dfx.ko to work > > with /dev/3dfx. This is provided to support device accesses for glide > > programs, like quake3 and all. It currently has some issues with the > > Voodoo3 and Banshee hardware, but I could use another tester. It is part > > of -CURRENT, and will most likely panic your box, but some output sent > > to me about the crash would be helpful. Actually, if anyone has an old > > agp 3dfx card they'dl ike to donate for this development, it would be > > helpful. I have been testing it with my voodoo2 board with much success, > > but I have had some responses from users with Voodoo3's that say that > > they haven't gotten it to work. > > What about Nvidia's 5.xx linux driver effort... what kind of effort > would be required to get that running on FreeBSD? > > -mike > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 15:31:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0C437BCAC; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10204; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007252231.PAA10204@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: from Kris Kennaway at "Jul 25, 2000 01:57:05 pm" To: Kris Kennaway Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > Just wonder, why the 4.1-RC2 install image does not include tcpdump > > > in the set of standard binaries ? Sources are there ... > > > > > > cheers > > > luigi > > > > Is it in the crypto dist? I believe we ran into this with 4.0 as well > > because tcpdump linked against some crypto library. > > *sigh* I thought this got fixed after 4.0-R. Does this patch look correct, > John? I'm not sure if there are any other utilities in the same situation > (both crypto/non-crypto versions) Ok, that is in -current, and I'll try to get Jordan to let me MFC it so we can have tcpdump in 4.1. However, is there any reason we can't fold the crypto distribution into bin now? Not the des or krb bits, but the 'crypto' one. > Kris -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 16:13:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4659C37B7F6; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.77]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000725231314.IBEW26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:13:14 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA50171; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:13:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:13:12 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Jim Mock , Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: realplayer and freebsd? Message-ID: <20000726001312.K236@parish> References: <397AD5C2.AE2E5605@gmx.net> <20000723140206.B236@parish> <20000723094827.A5951@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <20000725012953.G236@parish> <20000725165846.B555@hamlet.nectar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000725165846.B555@hamlet.nectar.com>; from n@nectar.com on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:58:46PM -0500 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:58:46PM -0500, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 01:29:53AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > OK, I've installed the port. Do you know a URL where the plugin will > > (should) actually run? Everywhere I try (e.g. radio stations) just > > fires up the external RP program, plays Welcome.rm and just sits > > there. > > www.dwelle.de > Thanks! That fired the plugin up :) > > After installing RealPlayer 7, you should run pluginstall.sh and > mimeinstall.sh in $PREFIX/lib/RealPlayer7. I did that, thanks. > -- > Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 16:28:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFE637BC03; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA06181; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: John Baldwin Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: <200007252231.PAA10204@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Ok, that is in -current, and I'll try to get Jordan to let me MFC it so > we can have tcpdump in 4.1. However, is there any reason we can't fold > the crypto distribution into bin now? Not the des or krb bits, but the > 'crypto' one. Only political ones :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 16:45: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iserver.itworks.com.au (iserver.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D45D37BC6C for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: (qmail 78421 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 23:44:38 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (203.36.209.235) by iserver.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 23:44:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 47165 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2000 23:44:37 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (HELO maybe) (203.36.209.235) by maybe.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 25 Jul 2000 23:44:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:44:37 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: Dave Boers Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2 problems with 4.1-RC In-Reply-To: <20000725104915.A3633@relativity.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:43:48PM +1000, Gavin Cameron wrote: > > Firstly, if I boot with the -cv options I don't get the visual config, my > > screen scrolls forever with text that is too fast to read and never makes > > it into the config menus > > If you want to enter visual config you have to boot using "boot -c" and > type "visual" when prompted. > > AFAIK "boot -cv" will give you a verbose boot and a command prompt. That doesn't explain why booting with a -cv causes the machine NOT to boot at all. > > > Secondly, after a reboot I cannot use the console's keyboard. I get my > > console messages but cannot type anything in. > > Sorry, don't know about that one. Are you sure scroll-lock is not > accidentally turned on? > Yes, I'm sure that scroll lock is not on. Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 17:13: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3000A37B59F for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF31511CD21; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:13:02 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: Fred Clift Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) Message-ID: <20000725171302.B9956@manatee.mammalia.org> References: <200007232030.NAA23028@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from fred@veriohosting.com on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 03:29:08PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 03:29:08PM -0600, Fred Clift wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > the geometry of a disk. At the very least, dangerously dedicated mode > > should specify a valid length for the slice the way that truly dedicated > > mode does so that if you ever need to stick a dedicated disk in another > > computer for some reason, it doesn't see that all but the first 25,000k as > > being free and happily reformat it for you or other nonsense. > > I whole-heartedly agree, and do this for all my dangerously dedicated > installs. one disklabel command, and 30 seconds in fdisk are all that is > needed to do this, or rather, less than a second of my time since I wrote > a program to automate this piping input into fdisk, since the scripting > stuff in fdisk is broken in some dumb ways... To top it off, this 'fixes' > the problem that some bioses have with dedicated disks. Ie the bioses > main source of confusion is the broken partition table entry that is put > there when by disklabel... > Would you mind posting that script? I'd like to see it. Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 17:38: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.1.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1629937B8AF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dieringe@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.1.46) with esmtp id ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:37:56 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:37:56 +0200 From: Martin Dieringer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: compiling kernel fails at agp? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when I make depend, following happens: ===> svr4 ===> vesa ===> wi ===> agp make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/THINKPAD. I just cvsupped RELENG_4 and trying for several days now. even deleted src/sys and refetched it. any idea why? a problem with config? martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 18:10:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C27537BC03 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clefevre@citeweb.net) Received: (qmail 4503775 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 01:10:07 -0000 Received: from r227m167.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.227.167]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2000 01:10:07 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA46826; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:10:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from clefevre@citeweb.net) To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Otter , Dave Boers , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations References: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2> X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre From: Cyrille Lefevre In-Reply-To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin"'s message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:38:01 -0500" Date: 26 Jul 2000 03:10:05 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jeffrey J. Mountin" writes: > Throwing flags for fun isn't advised and in most cases the improvements are minimal. After reading the man pages, etc, > some make sense to have (ie -march and -cpu). However, don't recall ever seeing any performance data. OTOH, there can > be significant changes. Then one must decide if the program is used enough to justify the risk. Talking system here, > not ports, which do their own thing in most cases, unless you have CFLAGS set. Most ports will take a -O2, but then you > need to change it back before doing the world. > > Frankly I got tired of switching (and forgetting to) and just stick with '-O -pipe' and hack the ports as > needed/desired. As mentioned it is also faster building world. AFAICR, about 15% faster using '-O -pipe' than '-O2 > -pipe'. in /etc/make.conf, try something like that : IS_SYS?= ${.CURDIR:M*/sys*} IS_SRC?= ${.CURDIR:M*/src*} IS_PORTS?= ${.CURDIR:M*/ports*} .if !empty(IS_SYS) CFLAGS= -O -pipe .endif .if !empty(IS_SRC) CFLAGS= whatever you want .endif .if !empty(IS_PORTS) CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe .endif you see the idea ? I use rules likes them for month w/ any problems. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 18:13:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFA6E37BD3D for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clefevre@citeweb.net) Received: (qmail 2923353 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 01:13:07 -0000 Received: from r227m167.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.227.167]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2000 01:13:07 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA46849; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:13:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from clefevre@citeweb.net) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: khera@kciLink.com (Vivek Khera), leif@neland.dk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist and pam References: <200007251902.MAA18524@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre From: Cyrille Lefevre In-Reply-To: "Chad R. Larson"'s message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:02:37 -0700 (MST)" Date: 26 Jul 2000 03:13:06 +0200 Message-ID: <4s5delst.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" writes: > As I recall, Vivek Khera wrote: > > Use rdist6 (from ports) with SSH as your transport. You'll need to > > install rdist6 on each system. > > If you've got SSH built, you could use scp (secure copy). It's > easier to use than rdist. You use it just like rcp, except it uses > SHH for a secure connection. what about symlinks ? are they followed or copied ? Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 18:20:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B6B37BD0F for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00438; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:19:57 -0700 Message-ID: <397E3CEA.DEAEE5E2@urx.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:20:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Dieringer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling kernel fails at agp? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Dieringer wrote: > > when I make depend, following happens: > > ===> svr4 > ===> vesa > ===> wi > ===> agp > make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/THINKPAD. > > I just cvsupped RELENG_4 and trying for several days now. > even deleted src/sys and refetched it. > > any idea why? a problem with config? Not if you follow the example for building a kernel in /usr/src/UPDATING. You can only run config if you haven't cvsup'ed or you have taken a chance and done a "make world". Kent > > martin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 18:43:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B07537B54E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Received: from kpi.com.au (ws02.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.215]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05506; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:45:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <397E4303.E6BDFA66@kpi.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:46:43 +1000 From: Andrew Johns Organization: KPI Logistics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Cameron Cc: Dave Boers , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 problems with 4.1-RC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed from your original post that CPU speed = ~ 274MHZ ? Is this machine overclocked? If so, you may need to adjust the motherboard timing delays as the keyboard might be getting just enough out of sync. to fail the probes at startup. HTH Regards ---------------------\=-_ _-=/ Andrew Johns BSc. \ \==/ / Principal Consultant \ / KPI Logistics Pty Ltd \ / mailto:johnsa@kpi.com.au \ +/ http://www.kpi.com.au \/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 18:46:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iserver.itworks.com.au (iserver.itworks.com.au [203.32.61.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E41637B54E for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavin@itworks.com.au) Received: (qmail 79926 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 01:46:11 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (203.36.209.235) by iserver.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 01:46:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 51431 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 01:46:11 -0000 Received: from maybe.itworks.com.au (HELO maybe) (203.36.209.235) by maybe.itworks.com.au with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 01:46:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:46:11 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron To: Andrew Johns Cc: Dave Boers , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 problems with 4.1-RC In-Reply-To: <397E4303.E6BDFA66@kpi.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I noticed from your original post that CPU speed = ~ 274MHZ ? Is this > machine overclocked? If so, you may need to adjust the motherboard > timing delays as the keyboard might be getting just enough out of > sync. to fail the probes at startup. No, the machine is not overclocked and has been running NT4 for the last 2 years quote happily. The CPU speed is actually 266MHz, so I don't know why its showing up as 247MHz. BTW, 4.0-RELEASE worked fine on this box. Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 18:57:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC63937B56C for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 13932618; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:56:38 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Martin Dieringer , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiling kernel fails at agp? Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:56:29 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072520574101.00233@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Martin Dieringer wrote: > when I make depend, following happens: > > > ===> svr4 > ===> vesa > ===> wi > ===> agp > make: don't know how to make agp_if.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/THINKPAD. > > > > > I just cvsupped RELENG_4 and trying for several days now. > even deleted src/sys and refetched it. > > any idea why? a problem with config? > > > martin > Read /usr/src/UPDATING. You are trying to build a kernel the wrong way. The procedure has changed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 19:58:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from squishy.slurping.com (gateway.richp.com [206.86.60.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CA137BBFF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjp@squishy.slurping.com) Received: (from rjp@localhost) by squishy.slurping.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31155 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:57:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Prillinger Message-Id: <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com> Subject: SCSI errors: Invalidating pack To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been messing around trying to get SCSI to work on a FreeBSD box for a few weeks now. No matter what combination of the following hardware/software I use, I get this error at some (seemingly random) time during disk-intensive activities (cvsup, makes, etc): (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1f - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0xa (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queueing a BDR SCB (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34a (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1f - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0xa (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queueing a BDR SCB (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34a (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack [etc] After which the machine hangs and requires a hard reboot. I've tried 3.4-RELEASE, 4.0-RELEASE, and 4.0-STABLE snapshot (20000718 and 0723) with all the following hardware combinations: Seagate ST39216W with Adaptec 2940UW Pro Seagate ST39216W with Advansys 3940UW Seagate ST39216N with Adaptec 2940U Seagate ST39216N with Adaptec 2940UW Pro Seagate ST39216N with Advansys 3940UW I've tried low-level formating the drive(s) before net-installing. I've tried two different motherboards/CPUs (Using an ABIT KA7 with an 800 MHz Athlon currently... or at least trying). The other motherboard is a Soyo V6BE+ with a PII 400. I've tried LVD cables, terminated and unterminated. I'm confident this is not the problem since all SCSI cards above detect and report incorrect termination. I've tried three different 68-pin cables. I've tried restoring the motherboards and controllers to factory defaults. I've updated the EPROM on the 2940UW Pro controller. I've swapped the RAM. Today I had a more experienced colleage try the install on my hardware to eliminate the possibility of me doing something dumb every time. It still broke with the above error during the make buildworld. There was some discussion of this error a while back on this list, but I never saw a resolution (if there is, I can't find it in the mailing list archives). Anyone have any idea what might be causing this and how I would go about fixing it? Thanks, -Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 20: 7:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD3C37B7C4 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18396; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA18710; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007260307.UAA18710@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jeff-ml@mountin.net Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2> References: <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2>, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > At 06:54 PM 7/24/00 +0000, Otter wrote: > >what about the -march=pentiumpro flag? there's a bunch more > >possibilities listed if you man gcc. keep in mind that the more opts you > >add in, the longer it will take to compile something. > > And -march=pentiumpro differs from -march=i686 in what way? No sarcasm, > just pointing this out since both have been mentioned. This is all documented in the gcc info pages. Type "info gcc" and follow the links. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 20:20:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from giroc.albury.net.au (giroc.albury.NET.AU [203.15.244.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9224537BBFF for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicks@giroc.albury.net.au) Received: (from nicks@localhost) by giroc.albury.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA78515; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:20:17 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:20:17 +1000 From: Nick Slager To: Rich Prillinger Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI errors: Invalidating pack Message-ID: <20000726132017.A51114@albury.net.au> References: <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com>; from richp@richp.com on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 07:57:23PM -0700 X-Homer: Whoohooooooo! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Rich Prillinger (richp@richp.com): > I've been messing around trying to get SCSI to work on a > FreeBSD box for a few weeks now. No matter what combination > of the following hardware/software I use, I get this error at > some (seemingly random) time during disk-intensive activities > (cvsup, makes, etc): > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1f - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0xa > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queueing a BDR SCB > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34a [snip] I went through this about 6-8 weeks ago. I'm running 2940UW Pro controllers with 318436LW and 318275LW disks. I disabled write caching in the SCSI BIOS and haven't seen the problem since. There were various suggestions made at the time, including drive firmware bugs or problems with the da driver talking to newer Seagate drives. From memory, someone talked to Seagate, who recommend disabling write caching and/or tagged queuing on FreeBSD and Novell boxes. Disabling caching has a negligible performance impact for us - ~4% downgrade at most. I'm not sure if a fix has been discovered, though. HTH, Nick. -- From a Sun Microsystems bug report (#4102680): "Workaround: don't pound on the mouse like a wild monkey." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 20:24:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39437B7C4 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18452; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA19123; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007260324.UAA19123@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: richp@richp.com Subject: Re: SCSI errors: Invalidating pack In-Reply-To: <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com> References: <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com>, Rich Prillinger wrote: > > I've been messing around trying to get SCSI to work on a > FreeBSD box for a few weeks now. No matter what combination > of the following hardware/software I use, I get this error at > some (seemingly random) time during disk-intensive activities > (cvsup, makes, etc): > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1f - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0xa > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queueing a BDR SCB > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34a > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1f - timed out while idle, SEQADDR == 0xa > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queueing a BDR SCB > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34a > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack > [etc] > > After which the machine hangs and requires a hard reboot. > > I've tried 3.4-RELEASE, 4.0-RELEASE, and 4.0-STABLE snapshot > (20000718 and 0723) with all the following hardware combinations: > > Seagate ST39216W with Adaptec 2940UW Pro > Seagate ST39216W with Advansys 3940UW > > Seagate ST39216N with Adaptec 2940U > Seagate ST39216N with Adaptec 2940UW Pro > Seagate ST39216N with Advansys 3940UW Anoncvs.freebsd.org had this problem about 2 weeks ago. I mailed the messages to Justin Gibbs and he told me that the problem is caused by a firmware bug in the Seagate drives. Anoncvs has slightly different drives, but I bet its the same bug: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) You will have to contact Seagate technical support to get the firmware upgrades. But in the meantime, according to Justin, disabling the write caches (WCE in mode page 8) will work around the problem. You can do that with the camcontrol command. Justin posted more details about this in the FreeBSD-scsi mailing list. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 20:56:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907CE37BDD4 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.yourfit.com) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19143 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:56:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:56:13 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI errors: Invalidating pack In-Reply-To: <200007260324.UAA19123@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, John Polstra wrote: > In article <200007260257.TAA31155@squishy.slurping.com>, > Rich Prillinger wrote: > > > > [...SCSI "invalidating pack" errors...] > > Anoncvs.freebsd.org had this problem about 2 weeks ago. I mailed the > messages to Justin Gibbs and he told me that the problem is caused by > a firmware bug in the Seagate drives. Anoncvs has slightly different > drives, but I bet its the same bug: Since you mentioned anoncvs, I wanted to report that I've had ZERO success at accessing anoncvs (it would be handy to do to pull down a handful of files if you wanted to fall back to a specific revision after running into a problem following a cvsup, for example). I also noticed that although there are directions for using anoncvs in the documentation that gets locally installed from the 4.0-RELEASE CD, that information is missing from the online handbook. Following the directions that came with 4.0-RELEASE, I always get a "connection refused" message when I attempt a cvs login. Is that intended? Regards, -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 22:34:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DC237BE56 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:34:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18772; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA19593; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007260534.WAA19593@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: behanna@mail.yourfit.com Subject: Re: SCSI errors: Invalidating pack In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Chris BeHanna wrote: > > Since you mentioned anoncvs, I wanted to report that I've had > ZERO success at accessing anoncvs (it would be handy to do to pull > down a handful of files if you wanted to fall back to a specific > revision after running into a problem following a cvsup, for example). It may simply be due to the fact that the machine was down for a period of 12 days recently. It is up again and seems to be working fine as far as I can tell. > I also noticed that although there are directions for using anoncvs > in the documentation that gets locally installed from the 4.0-RELEASE > CD, that information is missing from the online handbook. Thanks for reporting that. It was caused by an obsolete redirect in the web server's config file. It is fixed now. > Following the directions that came with 4.0-RELEASE, I always > get a "connection refused" message when I attempt a cvs login. Is > that intended? It sure doesn't sound very useful. :-) Are you sure it's resolving to the right IP address for you (209.181.243.20)? I don't remember what the directions said in 4.0. Try the ones on the web site again, and write to me directly if you still can't get it to work. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 23:13:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A462637B563 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10153; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Mike Harding Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent ports behavior (fetch) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:31:07 PDT." <20000725143107.9A4D1E6E75@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:13:10 -0700 Message-ID: <10150.964591990@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there any chance for a return to the old behavior (cntl-C stops > fetch, file deleted) for 4.1? It's a lot friendlier for us dial-up > folk... I agree - even when you have a fast connection, it also lets you say "damn, that site is too slow" and interrupt a download and restart it pointing at a different master server. With the current behavior, you won't get a download started up again, you'll get a checksum mismatch as the port finds the wrong file. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 25 23:54:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skaarup.org (skaarup.org [130.228.230.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFD937BDEE; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Received: from localhost (skaarup@localhost) by skaarup.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA46579; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:54:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:54:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup X-Sender: skaarup@skaarup.org To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world fail (at) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > > > ** snip snip ** > > ===> usr.bin/at > > ".depend", line 3: Need an operator > > You have something wrong with your usr.bin/at/Makefile, it looks > like. Check you haven't locally modified the file - if you're using CVS to > update, you may have a CVS conflict in this file (look for <<< and >>> > markers) I haven't changed a bit. Is there anything wrong with the file below? ** usr.bin/at/Makefile ** # $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/at/Makefile,v 1.10 1999/08/28 00:59:08 peter Exp $ .include "${.CURDIR}/Makefile.inc" PROG= at CFLAGS+=-Wall SRCS= at.c panic.c parsetime.c perm.c LINKS= ${BINDIR}/at ${BINDIR}/atq \ ${BINDIR}/at ${BINDIR}/atrm \ ${BINDIR}/at ${BINDIR}/batch MLINKS= at.1 batch.1 \ at.1 atq.1 \ at.1 atrm.1 BINMODE= 4555 MANSRC= . CLEANFILES += ${MAN1} MANDEPEND = ${MAN1} .include ${MAN1}: at.man @${ECHO} Making ${.TARGET:T} from ${.ALLSRC:T}; \ sed -e \ "s@_ATSPOOL_DIR@$(ATSPOOL_DIR)@g; \ s@_ATJOB_DIR@$(ATJOB_DIR)@g; \ s@_DEFAULT_BATCH_QUEUE@$(DEFAULT_BATCH_QUEUE)@g; \ s@_DEFAULT_AT_QUEUE@$(DEFAULT_AT_QUEUE)@g; \ s@_LOADAVG_MX@$(LOADAVG_MX)@g; \ s@_PERM_PATH@$(PERM_PATH)@g; \ s@_LOCKFILE@$(LOCKFILE)@g" \ < ${.OODATE} > ${.TARGET} ** snip snip ** Best regards Rasmus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 0:41:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D77F37B955; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10696; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: John Baldwin Cc: Kris Kennaway , jkh@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:31:18 PDT." <200007252231.PAA10204@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:41:48 -0700 Message-ID: <10693.964597308@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ok, that is in -current, and I'll try to get Jordan to let me MFC it so > we can have tcpdump in 4.1. However, is there any reason we can't fold > the crypto distribution into bin now? Not the des or krb bits, but the > 'crypto' one. Boy, I'd sure be a happy man if that were the case. It would make installing FreeBSD a lot more straight-forward and secure out of the box. The same could be done for the crypto sources too and we'd eliminate a whole sub-dialog from sysinstall. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 0:56:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c540443-a.aurora1.co.home.com (c540443-a.aurora1.co.home.com [24.10.128.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26F437B955 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@c540443-a.aurora1.co.home.com) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by c540443-a.aurora1.co.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03836 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:56:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from root@c540443-a.aurora1.co.home.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:56:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Root To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 1:11: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C9E37BEDF for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA23959 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:10:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-82.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.82) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma023957; Wed Jul 26 03:10:56 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000726024423.00b49cc0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:09:51 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <200007260307.UAA18710@vashon.polstra.com> References: <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2> <20000724152021.A61713@relativity.student.utwente.nl> <4.3.2.20000725153431.00d66d60@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:07 PM 7/25/00 -0700, John Polstra wrote: > > And -march=pentiumpro differs from -march=i686 in what way? No sarcasm, > > just pointing this out since both have been mentioned. > >This is all documented in the gcc info pages. Type "info gcc" and >follow the links. Yep. BTDT IMO, 'info' is a bit unfriendly, but I don't care to get into vi vs emacs and just try to avoid 'info' when possible. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 1:30: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE6C37BE4A; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA74297; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:30:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: John Baldwin , jkh@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: <10693.964597308@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Ok, that is in -current, and I'll try to get Jordan to let me MFC it so > > we can have tcpdump in 4.1. However, is there any reason we can't fold > > the crypto distribution into bin now? Not the des or krb bits, but the > > 'crypto' one. > > Boy, I'd sure be a happy man if that were the case. It would make > installing FreeBSD a lot more straight-forward and secure out of the > box. The same could be done for the crypto sources too and we'd > eliminate a whole sub-dialog from sysinstall. As I already told John, I say "go for it" (and let whingers be damned :-) The only thing to change would be a symlink asking if you want DES passwords, defaulting to NO (in fact we may already have that now, I can't remember) and everything from the crypto dist can be merged into bin. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 1:34:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9854A37BE8A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13HMdp-000Mwb-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:34:13 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: telnet nslookup oddity Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:34:13 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 4.1-rc as of yesterday. the surprise is at the end. rip.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> nslookup emu1.emumail.com. Server: cache.psg.com Address: 147.28.0.3 Name: emu1.emumail.com Address: 207.155.121.156 rip.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> ping emu1.emumail.com PING emu1.emumail.com (207.155.121.156): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 207.155.121.156: icmp_seq=0 ttl=239 time=66.649 ms 64 bytes from 207.155.121.156: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=66.056 ms ^C --- emu1.emumail.com ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 66.056/66.352/66.649/0.297 ms rip.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> telnet emu1.emumail.com 25 emu1.emumail.com: No address associated with hostname To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 1:38:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skaarup.org (skaarup.org [130.228.230.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D882C37B541 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Received: from localhost (skaarup@localhost) by skaarup.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA46746 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:38:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:38:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup X-Sender: skaarup@skaarup.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fail (at) (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I did a fresh cvsup in a empty /usr/src directory, and got the exact same error: ** snip snip ** ===> usr.bin/apply rm -f apply apply.o apply.1.gz apply.1.cat.gz rm -f .depend /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GPATH /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GRTAGS /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GSYMS /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GTAGS ===> usr.bin/at ".depend", line 3: Need an operator ".depend", line 4: Need an operator ".depend", line 5: Need an operator ".depend", line 6: Need an operator ".depend", line 7: Need an operator ".depend", line 10: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 ** snip snip ** Best regards Rasmus ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:54:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world fail (at) On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > > > ** snip snip ** > > ===> usr.bin/at > > ".depend", line 3: Need an operator > > You have something wrong with your usr.bin/at/Makefile, it looks > like. Check you haven't locally modified the file - if you're using CVS to > update, you may have a CVS conflict in this file (look for <<< and >>> > markers) I haven't changed a bit. Is there anything wrong with the file below? ** usr.bin/at/Makefile ** # $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/at/Makefile,v 1.10 1999/08/28 00:59:08 peter Exp $ .include "${.CURDIR}/Makefile.inc" PROG= at CFLAGS+=-Wall SRCS= at.c panic.c parsetime.c perm.c LINKS= ${BINDIR}/at ${BINDIR}/atq \ ${BINDIR}/at ${BINDIR}/atrm \ ${BINDIR}/at ${BINDIR}/batch MLINKS= at.1 batch.1 \ at.1 atq.1 \ at.1 atrm.1 BINMODE= 4555 MANSRC= . CLEANFILES += ${MAN1} MANDEPEND = ${MAN1} .include ${MAN1}: at.man @${ECHO} Making ${.TARGET:T} from ${.ALLSRC:T}; \ sed -e \ "s@_ATSPOOL_DIR@$(ATSPOOL_DIR)@g; \ s@_ATJOB_DIR@$(ATJOB_DIR)@g; \ s@_DEFAULT_BATCH_QUEUE@$(DEFAULT_BATCH_QUEUE)@g; \ s@_DEFAULT_AT_QUEUE@$(DEFAULT_AT_QUEUE)@g; \ s@_LOADAVG_MX@$(LOADAVG_MX)@g; \ s@_PERM_PATH@$(PERM_PATH)@g; \ s@_LOCKFILE@$(LOCKFILE)@g" \ < ${.OODATE} > ${.TARGET} ** snip snip ** Best regards Rasmus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 2:18:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C592837B893; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13HNKW-0001v1-0V; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:18:21 +0100 Received: from henny.webweaving.org (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA93701; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:17:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA30643; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:19:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:19:18 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List , USB BSD list , FreeBSD STABLE Mailing List Cc: Kent Subject: WARNING: IBM microdrive in USB based CF II reader Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warning: Do not use IBM Microdrives in any USB based CF II readers, like the SmartMedia ImageMate until further notice. I've had reports of 2 drives breaking in a SmartMedia ImageMedia. They are PHYSICALLY broken and will no longer work. Nick -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 2:50:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D79837BE9F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id LAA31560; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:50:11 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id LAA16955; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:47:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256928.003612AB ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:50:37 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: Coleman Kane Cc: Mike Muir , Coleman Kane , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:50:28 +0200 Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've got a mixed feeling towards the binary driver for NVidia boards : - there an "emotional" and "political" aspect to the issue, which is to have all of FreeBSD available as source, with the Berkeley Licence. This has allowed the project to change the driver infrastucture, for example (passage to CAM for SCSI, or the recent transition to newbus) without asking permission to people outside the project. With this viewpoint it is not acceptable to use a binary-only driver for the NVidia boards (anyway, the competition is such in the graphics board market that 3dfx or ATI **could** have trouble inspecting the NVidia sources fast enough to incorporate the new ideas) - there is another "industrial" aspect : the exact same "feature" of the FreeBSD project, which is the total control of the interfaces between the kernel, the drivers and userland is damaging in the sense that it seems difficult to expect form third-parties to write drivers for FreeBSD if the interfaces change too often (is there any kld which is not part of the standard FreeBSD releases ? - is there any manufacturer which delivers binary-only drivers to its boards ?) - the stabilization (if at all possible) of the driver-kernel interface and the accompanying delivery of shrink-wrapped drivers would be a great plus to the credibility of FreeBSD Just my 0.2 Euro .... TfH Coleman Kane on 26/07/2000 00:23:33 To: Mike Muir cc: Coleman Kane , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG(bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx The 3dfx cards do work under FreeBSD, just not using glide. XFree86 4+ uses DRI to accomplish its 3D acceleration. If you want to use glide games through linux emulation, you can either run them as root (not acceptable many times, at least for me :), or you will be able to use them with this driver once it gets the last bugs worked out. It works fine for Voodoo1's and 2's, just have some trouble with the resource setup on the Voodoo 3's. As far as the NVidia binary drivers go, I don't think they are planning any releases for FreeBSD. Personally, I don't want to endorse this sort of behavior from manufacturers like NVidia giving out binary-only drivers. I don't buy their cards because of that, and also because I can't afford them. There is a small amount of total IP that can be gotten from reading source code, and it is too small for a company to bother trying to parse through to understand. They'd wate too much time trying to figure it out, that it wouldn't matter once they were done. Anyway, I don't want to go out on a rant about lame business practices, the basic idea here is no, NVidia doesn't provide binary only drivers for FreeBSD, and we don't really care for the idea of closed source drivers. Closed source drivers just make it a pain for everyone to get work done from installation to associated programming (say, extensions to the drivers). I'm not gonna go into a holy war here or reveal what I think they are closing them for, but basically, they are not expected to come ever. You can simply use the included on in XFree86 4.0.1, which I think supposrts DRI. [SNIP] -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 3: 9:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6413F37B804 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA36362 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007261018.DAA36362@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:18:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Subject: Mylex 160/170/352/2000/3000 driver available Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ------- Blind-Carbon-Copy X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Mylex 160/170/352/2000/3000 driver available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 03:18:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith I'm pleased to finally announce the first public BETA version of a new driver for the current family of Mylex PCI-SCSI RAID adapters. This driver provides support for the following adapters: AcceleRAID 160 AcceleRAID 170 AcceleRAID 352 eXtremeRAID 2000 eXtremeRAID 3000 The driver can be found at http://people.freebsd.org/~msmit/RAID/index.html#mylex Note that this version of the driver provides read/write support but no status monitoring or management. Thanks go to the folks at Mylex for their support and patience, as well as to BSDi for funding development of this driver. Thanks also to Leonard Zubkoff, whose Linux driver allowed me discover and avoid a few critical documentation errors which had blocked me for quite some time. - -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] ------- End of Blind-Carbon-Copy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 4:15:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctimail3.com (main1.my3mail.com [203.80.96.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CE537BE5B for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from July3@wsi-hk.com) Received: from oemcomputer27 (207user29.ctimail3.com [203.80.207.29]) by mail.ctimail3.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02354 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:15:32 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <200007261115.TAA02354@mail.ctimail3.com> From: "Peter Forsythe" To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:11:38 +0800 Subject: Workplace English and Summer Specials Reply-To: July3@wsi-hk.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This email is an update of Hong Kong government's Workplace English Campaign, and of Wall Street Institute English specials for July. 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Peter Forsythe Fax form to 2575 1999 or email to July@wsi-hk.com: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please send me more information on WEC and Summer Specials: Name _____________________________ Address___________________________ Phone_____________________________ Fax_______________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ (For remove, put "remove" in subject line or click on remove@wsi-hk.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 4:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9116637BE62 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:31:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA90734; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:30:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:30:52 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: Dave Glowacki , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <200007251731.NAA00748@misha.privatelabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > On 24 Jul, Dave Glowacki wrote: > Take a look at the PR I mentioned already: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19245 > > = Were both FreeBSD and Mandrake using the exact same version of gcc? > = Did the Mandrake version have any Linux-specific patches applied? > > At least, gcc -v shows nothing special. It is all in the PR. If Mandrake > does apply some fixes, may be, FreeBSD needs to do so too? This is worth > investigating, instead of discounting with "don't use optimization". Maybe there's some difference between the builtin specs that FreeBSD uses and the specs in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/specs that Mandrake uses. Perhaps we should make a specs file for FreeBSD by, say, interpolating between the builtin specs and Mandrake's specs? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 6:15:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E8437BC5A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id PAA01795; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:14:33 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id PAA14404; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:11:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256928.0048C700 ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:14:55 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: mmuir@es.co.nz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:14:48 +0200 Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've had a quick look at NVidia's "src-rpm" for its driver under Linux, and I've been very disappointed to see that the main parts of this driver are 3 binary object files for which there is no source. This inhibits porting by people from the FreeBSD projects - and it's sad, considering my owning of a TNT2 ... TfH Mike Muir on 25/07/2000 19:44:51 Please respond to mmuir@es.co.nz To: Coleman Kane , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: (bcc: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL) Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Coleman Kane wrote: > > XFree86-4 has been updated to the newest version. It has a kld named > tdfx.ko that must be installed into /modules/. When you load X, it will > load dri, agp, and tdfx all for you. There is also a 3dfx.ko to work > with /dev/3dfx. This is provided to support device accesses for glide > programs, like quake3 and all. It currently has some issues with the > Voodoo3 and Banshee hardware, but I could use another tester. It is part > of -CURRENT, and will most likely panic your box, but some output sent > to me about the crash would be helpful. Actually, if anyone has an old > agp 3dfx card they'dl ike to donate for this development, it would be > helpful. I have been testing it with my voodoo2 board with much success, > but I have had some responses from users with Voodoo3's that say that > they haven't gotten it to work. What about Nvidia's 5.xx linux driver effort... what kind of effort would be required to get that running on FreeBSD? -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 6:22:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DF237BA32 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 9E7A66A904 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:22:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com [212.73.210.79] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.03) id A61D3D3D0058; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:22:37 +0200 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726151700.042afc50@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:19:56 +0200 To: From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Mylex 160/170/352/2000/3000 driver available In-Reply-To: <200007261018.DAA36362@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike, For the 170, any plans to get GAM running on FreeBSD? "Global Array Manager (GAM) software & drive set for Windows 2000, Windows NT, SCO Unix/UnixWare & NetWare, Sun Solaris and Linux on CD." Do you think it woul run Linux emulation? Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com: ISC BIND 8.2.2 p5 installable binary for NT4 http://IMGate.MEIway.com: Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 7:22: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C107E37B768 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A23E896 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05905; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:21:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14718.62456.823138.807215@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:21:44 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <4s5delst.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> References: <200007251902.MAA18524@freeway.dcfinc.com> <4s5delst.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "CL" == Cyrille Lefevre writes: CL> "Chad R. Larson" writes: >> As I recall, Vivek Khera wrote: >> > Use rdist6 (from ports) with SSH as your transport. You'll need to >> > install rdist6 on each system. >> >> If you've got SSH built, you could use scp (secure copy). It's >> easier to use than rdist. You use it just like rcp, except it uses >> SHH for a secure connection. CL> what about symlinks ? are they followed or copied ? rdist makes the symlinks. it duplicates your entire directory tree, including hard links. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 7:33:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8736937B671 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fred@veriohosting.com) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma028956; Wed, 26 Jul 00 08:33:13 -0600 Received: from vespa.orem.iserver.com (vespa.orem.iserver.com [192.168.1.144]) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id IAA62438; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:33:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:42:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-Sender: fred@vespa.orem.iserver.com To: R Joseph Wright Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: No /boot/loader (dangerously dedicated) In-Reply-To: <20000725171302.B9956@manatee.mammalia.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, R Joseph Wright wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 03:29:08PM -0600, Fred Clift wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > the geometry of a disk. At the very least, dangerously dedicated mode > > > should specify a valid length for the slice the way that truly dedicated > Would you mind posting that script? I'd like to see it. I'm told that at least for some people that disklabel auto actually does this as recently as 4.0-RELEASE -- I've not had a chance to verify this but I know that using the da driver in 3.4 that this doesn't happen so I do approximately the following (from a C program, that runs from a pxe-like boot-rom booted kernel) note that only the important bits are shown and some pseudo-code for clarity fo = fopen(....... ... fprintf(fo, "\n\n\n\ny\n\n\n%d\n\ny\n\ny\n",driveInfo[disk].size); fclose(fo); /* driveInfo[disk].size is the number of sectors/unit as reported by disklabel */ /* and then this is done.... */ /sbin/fdisk -u da0 < /tmp/fdisk.in This gets the right numbers in the disk label for me to make my Intel ISP2150 boxes to work right (LB440GX+ based I believe). An interesting side note is that if I dd the stock boot0 (with the bogus partition table entry) onto _any_ disk in the system, regardless of what disk is the boot disk, then the machine wont boot at all, not a floppy, not any of the boot devices, nothing. I have to either low-level scsi format the disk or boot from our custom bootrom and nuke it from there... I would say that any machine that can be crippled by having corrupted data on a non-boot disk is by design broken. But, thats another discussion. Fred -- Fred Clift - fred@veriohosting.com -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8: 7:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ruiter.accu.uu.nl (ruiter.accu.uu.nl [131.211.16.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42C737BC01 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@accu.uu.nl) Received: by ruiter.accu.uu.nl (Postfix, from userid 7000) id 75FB0111E; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:07:24 +0200 (METDST) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:07:24 +0200 From: "Adrian P. van Bloois" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: <20000726170724.A12642@accu.uu.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i X-Organization: Cap Gemini, University Services Budapestlaan 6-8 3584 CD Utrecht, the Netherlands. X-Fax: +31 30 600 32 01 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe -- Adrian P. van Bloois Postbus 2575 email: adrian@accu.uu.nl 3500 GN Utrecht voice: +31-30-600-3249 The Netherlands fax: ++31-30-6003201 The whole point of cooking is to get as much flavour out of the ingredients as possible. -- Delia SMith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:12:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surfree.cl (ns.surfree.cl [204.254.85.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A6737BEE5 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (stgo.cl [204.254.85.114]) by mail.surfree.cl (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A142EB15F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:11:21 -0400 (CLT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl> X-Sender: miturbe@msm.cl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:13:05 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: URGENT: bad superblock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Sorry for the crosspost but this is rather urgent Running FreeBSD 3.3 I have the following scenario: The filesystem won't boot. When I try to mount (/dev/da0s2) it from an emergency boot disk I get a "Incorrect Superblock" error. When I try to run fsck it gives me an error about wrong magic number. Here is the partition information Cyl=11065 heads=255 sector/tracks 63 (16065 blocks/cyl) partition:1 SysID 130,(swap) start 16065, size 498015 (243 meg), flag 0 Beg: cyl 1/ sector 1 head 0 end: cyl 31 sector 63 head 254 partition 2 (the important one) SysID 165 (freeBSD) start 1012095, 16755795 (8181 meg) flag 80 beg: cyl 63/ sector 1 head 0 end 1023 sector 63 head 254 When I try to check for bad blocks via the install disk I get: Blocks 17767700 to 17767889 are needed for bad144 information but isn't in use. *********************************************** Chief Technical Officer ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:20:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C0737B551 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13HSyp-00090e-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:20:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:20:19 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu>; from stephen@math.missouri.edu on Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 10:06:14AM -0500 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 2000-07-22 (10:06), Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > In the handbook in > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > it says: > > When you are finished, type the following to compile and install your > kernel if you are using FreeBSD prior FreeBSD 4.0 and don't want to > upgrade to FreeBSD 4.0 or higher with this step. > > .... usual config method > > For FreeBSD 4.x or later (or upgrading from FreeBSD 3.x to FreeBSD 4.x or > higher), use the following commands (be sure you have built world before!): > > .... new make buildworld method > > > > Clearly, this is not going to work if the user using a release version > of freebsd and has not loaded all the sources (the instructions > currently tell him/her to only load the sys portion of the sources). > Then the user should use the config method. 'make buildkernel' works without a populated /usr/obj tree, and with only the /usr/src/sys tree and /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc. I know because I just tried it. The only thing that needs to change is the setting of OBJFORMAT_PATH from ${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec to ${WORLTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec. What do you think, Marcel? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:39:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from southpark.corp.pocket.com (gateway1.pocketscience.com [209.24.64.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8760737BB27 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:39:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com) Received: (qmail 3934 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 15:39:52 -0000 Received: from southpark.corp.pocket.com (HELO corp.pocket.com) (10.10.4.2) by southpark.corp.pocket.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 15:39:52 -0000 Message-ID: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:39:52 -0700 From: Brian Nelson Organization: PocketScience, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Linux compatability page fault... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------545C52BD21A86D632C471A52" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------545C52BD21A86D632C471A52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux compatability comes up with a page fault. Even linprocfs doesn't work any more. I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd. Any suggestions? -Brian -- Brian Nelson/Web Developer/Pocket.com, Inc/brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The computer revolution is over. The computers won. --------------545C52BD21A86D632C471A52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux compatability comes up with a page fault.  Even linprocfs doesn't work any more.  I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd.

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  -Brian 

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  --------------545C52BD21A86D632C471A52-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:45:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.wetworks.org (shell.wetworks.org [63.160.175.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7773337B80B for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abc@shell.wetworks.org) Received: (qmail 14399 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jul 2000 15:45:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:45:11 -0400 From: Alan Clegg To: Brian Nelson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... Message-ID: <20000726114511.A13959@shell.wetworks.org> References: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com>; from brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:39:52AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An SMTP stream claimed that Brian Nelson muttered: > I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux compatability > comes up with a page fault. Even linprocfs doesn't work any more. > I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd. Try re-installing linux_base. AlanC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:51:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4573C37BC05 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13HTSs-0000zZ-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:51:22 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jan Koum Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: telnet nslookup oddity References: <20000726024103.A55618@ethereal.net> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:51:22 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG that did it. it appears that telnet was not actually made by buildworld. randy > i just had a similar problem with -rc from about 5 days ago. what is very > weird is that i did 'make install' in /usr/src/usr.bin/telnet and can no > longer reproduce this bug. very weird. > > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 01:34:13AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > > 4.1-rc as of yesterday. the surprise is at the end. > > > > rip.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> nslookup emu1.emumail.com. > > Server: cache.psg.com > > Address: 147.28.0.3 > > > > Name: emu1.emumail.com > > Address: 207.155.121.156 > > > > rip.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> ping emu1.emumail.com > > PING emu1.emumail.com (207.155.121.156): 56 data bytes > > 64 bytes from 207.155.121.156: icmp_seq=0 ttl=239 time=66.649 ms > > 64 bytes from 207.155.121.156: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=66.056 ms > > ^C > > --- emu1.emumail.com ping statistics --- > > 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 66.056/66.352/66.649/0.297 ms > > > > rip.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> telnet emu1.emumail.com 25 > > emu1.emumail.com: No address associated with hostname > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:58:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.anet.cz (ns.anet.cz [194.50.6.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ADB37BB82 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:58:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murmak@artum.cz) Received: from palitko (neco.cesnet.cz [194.212.70.171]) by ns.anet.cz (Postfix) with SMTP for id 42F2336064; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:58:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <024901bff71a$5b79e9f0$0101a8c0@palitko> From: "Petr Murmak" To: Subject: Promise-66 RAID Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:58:36 +0200 Organization: ARTUM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I have RAID version of Promise ATAPI 66 card (FastTrak66). In bios i make one mirrored virtual disk from two physical disks. Then I started installation of FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. But in installation seems, that FreeBSD know both physical disks. So, is this card supported as RAID, or I must use it as normal ATAPI? Thanx Petr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 8:58:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909B037BB82 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DF042; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id IAA16981; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397F0ABA.92CDC2FC@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:58:50 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Skaarup Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world fail (at) (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > > Hi, > > I did a fresh cvsup in a empty /usr/src directory, and got the exact same > error: I did not follow this thread, but I assume you also had an empty /usr/obj? > ** snip snip ** > ===> usr.bin/apply > rm -f apply apply.o apply.1.gz apply.1.cat.gz > rm -f .depend /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GPATH /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GRTAGS > /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GSYMS /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GTAGS > ===> usr.bin/at > ".depend", line 3: Need an operator > ".depend", line 4: Need an operator > ".depend", line 5: Need an operator > ".depend", line 6: Need an operator > ".depend", line 7: Need an operator > ".depend", line 10: Need an operator > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > *** Error code 1 Can you mail what's on these lines? -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9: 2:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from southpark.corp.pocket.com (gateway1.pocketscience.com [209.24.64.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30C3437BBC7 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com) Received: (qmail 668 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 16:02:23 -0000 Received: from southpark.corp.pocket.com (HELO corp.pocket.com) (10.10.4.2) by southpark.corp.pocket.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 16:02:23 -0000 Message-ID: <397F0B8E.ED0F5570@corp.pocket.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:02:23 -0700 From: Brian Nelson Organization: PocketScience, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Clegg Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... References: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> <20000726114511.A13959@shell.wetworks.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No dice. I pkg_deleted the old one, and tried to build the 6.1 linux_base (after CVSuping th eports) and it loaded the kernel module for the linux_base install, and page faulted. -Brian Alan Clegg wrote: > An SMTP stream claimed that Brian Nelson muttered: > > I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux compatability > > comes up with a page fault. Even linprocfs doesn't work any more. > > I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd. > > Try re-installing linux_base. > > AlanC > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9: 5: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF8437BB82 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21632; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA20387; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007261604.JAA20387@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: <10693.964597308@localhost> References: <10693.964597308@localhost> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <10693.964597308@localhost>, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > However, is there any reason we can't fold the crypto distribution > > into bin now? Not the des or krb bits, but the 'crypto' one. > > Boy, I'd sure be a happy man if that were the case. It would make > installing FreeBSD a lot more straight-forward and secure out of the > box. The same could be done for the crypto sources too and we'd > eliminate a whole sub-dialog from sysinstall. I would lean more toward keeping the crypto code in separate distributions for a while longer. When we folded the cvs-crypto CVSup collection into cvs-all, I got an e-mail from one person who was quite upset because he assumed it meant that crypto wouldn't be in separate binary distributions any more. At least to him, it was important to keep the ability to be completely crypto-free. I don't feel so strongly about it myself, but I can see his point. For one thing, US crypto policy has been dictated 100% by politics for at least the past 10 years. It could easily be reversed yet again. (I don't think it will be reversed, but it is certainly a real possibility.) I would hate to see us throw out all the machinery we use to keep the crypto code separable, only to have to rebuild it again some time in the future. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9:20:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.217.82.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA4C37BB82 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA79763; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:20:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:20:05 +0100 From: Geoff Buckingham To: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock Message-ID: <20000726172005.A79537@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl>; from Marcelo J. Iturbe on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:13:05AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:13:05AM -0400, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > Hello, > Sorry for the crosspost but this is rather urgent > > Running FreeBSD 3.3 I have the following scenario: > The filesystem won't boot. > When I try to mount (/dev/da0s2) it from an emergency boot disk I get a > "Incorrect Superblock" error. > When I try to run fsck it gives me an error about wrong magic number. > Here is the partition information What kind of file system is this? (ie ffs or FAT16/32) If it is ufs/ffs are you specifying a partition as well as a slice? example command line>mount /dev/da0s2a /mnt > Cyl=11065 heads=255 sector/tracks 63 (16065 blocks/cyl) > > partition:1 > SysID 130,(swap) > start 16065, size 498015 (243 meg), flag 0 > Beg: cyl 1/ sector 1 head 0 > end: cyl 31 sector 63 head 254 > > partition 2 (the important one) > SysID 165 (freeBSD) > start 1012095, 16755795 (8181 meg) flag 80 > beg: cyl 63/ sector 1 head 0 > end 1023 sector 63 head 254 > > When I try to check for bad blocks via the install disk I get: > Blocks 17767700 to 17767889 are needed for bad144 information but isn't in use. > > > > *********************************************** > Chief Technical Officer > ICQ 22921676 > MSM Interactive. > El Bosque Norte 0134, Las Condes, Chile. > Phone: (56-2) 234-9852 Fax: (56-2) 233-8912 > Email: marcelo@msm.cl http://www.msm.cl > ******************************************* > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9:24:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D76D37BBB5 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD11C1B5; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id JAA17805; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397F10A4.B42FD43F@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:24:04 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Nelson Cc: Alan Clegg , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... References: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> <20000726114511.A13959@shell.wetworks.org> <397F0B8E.ED0F5570@corp.pocket.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Nelson wrote: > > No dice. I pkg_deleted the old one, and tried to build the 6.1 linux_base > (after CVSuping th eports) > > and it loaded the kernel module for the linux_base install, and page faulted. Which kernel has been loaded? -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9:32:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clarkson.edu (mail.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4169637BBB5 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tuinstra@clarkson.edu) Received: (qmail 20786 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 2000 16:32:16 -0000 Received: from sc-1-51.sc.clarkson.edu (HELO clarkson.edu) (128.153.23.206) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 16:32:16 -0000 Message-ID: <397F128D.E4C36CD5@clarkson.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:32:13 -0400 From: Dwight Tuinstra X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT References: <10693.964597308@localhost> <200007261604.JAA20387@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > > I would lean more toward keeping the crypto code in separate > distributions for a while longer. When we folded the cvs-crypto CVSup > collection into cvs-all, I got an e-mail from one person who was quite > upset because he assumed it meant that crypto wouldn't be in separate > binary distributions any more. At least to him, it was important to > keep the ability to be completely crypto-free. > > I don't feel so strongly about it myself, but I can see his point. > For one thing, US crypto policy has been dictated 100% by politics > for at least the past 10 years. It could easily be reversed yet > again. (I don't think it will be reversed, but it is certainly a real > possibility.) I would hate to see us throw out all the machinery we > use to keep the crypto code separable, only to have to rebuild it > again some time in the future. I may well be wrong, but IIRC, there are some countries (France?) where crypto in individuals' hands is still heavily restricted. Even if I'm wrong about France, there might be others. --Dwight Tuinstra tuinstra@clarkson.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9:46:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9310C37BBAE for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DED1186; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id JAA17637; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397F0F7C.225394DF@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:19:08 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > 'make buildkernel' works without a populated /usr/obj tree, and with > only the /usr/src/sys tree and /usr/src/Makefile and > /usr/src/Makefile.inc. I know because I just tried it. > > The only thing that needs to change is the setting of OBJFORMAT_PATH > from ${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec to ${WORLTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec. > > What do you think, Marcel? It's only a good thing if you can use the buildkernel and installkernel targets without doing a buildworld first. Let me make sure we're not breaking any border cases for the cross-building case... -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 9:52:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA4537BAA0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 09:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13HULu-0009Nz-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:48:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:48:13 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000726184813.A36060@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> <397F0F7C.225394DF@cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <397F0F7C.225394DF@cup.hp.com>; from marcel@cup.hp.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 09:19:08AM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-07-26 (09:19), Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > The only thing that needs to change is the setting of OBJFORMAT_PATH > > from ${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec to ${WORLTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec. > > > > What do you think, Marcel? > > It's only a good thing if you can use the buildkernel and installkernel > targets without doing a buildworld first. Let me make sure we're not > breaking any border cases for the cross-building case... I'll leave the details and decision up to you - I just wanted to provide a datapoint. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10: 2:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E7237BC81 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saxonww@ufl.edu) Received: from thundarr.housing.ufl.edu (gremlin@[128.227.47.42]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id NAA83926; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:02:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Saxon X-Sender: gremlin@thundarr.housing.ufl.edu To: Brian Nelson Cc: Alan Clegg , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... In-Reply-To: <397F0B8E.ED0F5570@corp.pocket.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had this problem before.. Something about having to rebuild modules if your 4.0 was older than a certain date. The description was in UPDATING. -Will On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Brian Nelson wrote: > No dice. I pkg_deleted the old one, and tried to build the 6.1 linux_base > (after CVSuping th eports) > > and it loaded the kernel module for the linux_base install, and page faulted. > > -Brian > > Alan Clegg wrote: > > > An SMTP stream claimed that Brian Nelson muttered: > > > I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux compatability > > > comes up with a page fault. Even linprocfs doesn't work any more. > > > I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd. > > > > Try re-installing linux_base. > > > > AlanC > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10: 2:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6306837BF01 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saxonww@ufl.edu) Received: from thundarr.housing.ufl.edu (gremlin@[128.227.47.42]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id NAA138656; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:02:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Saxon X-Sender: gremlin@thundarr.housing.ufl.edu To: Gavin Cameron Cc: Andrew Johns , Dave Boers , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 problems with 4.1-RC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 274 MHz is consistent with your using the 'turbo frequency' option on some motherboards. Default is 66MHz system bus but occasionally there are boards that have the turbo option which would push 266MHz (really 264) to 274MHz (really 272) assuming a 4.0x cpu multiplier. -Will On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Gavin Cameron wrote: > > I noticed from your original post that CPU speed = ~ 274MHZ ? Is this > > machine overclocked? If so, you may need to adjust the motherboard > > timing delays as the keyboard might be getting just enough out of > > sync. to fail the probes at startup. > > No, the machine is not overclocked and has been running NT4 for the last 2 > years quote happily. > > The CPU speed is actually 266MHz, so I don't know why its showing up as > 247MHz. > > BTW, 4.0-RELEASE worked fine on this box. > > Gavin > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:15:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from southpark.corp.pocket.com (gateway1.pocketscience.com [209.24.64.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0107D37BB73 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com) Received: (qmail 433 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 17:15:23 -0000 Received: from southpark.corp.pocket.com (HELO corp.pocket.com) (10.10.4.2) by southpark.corp.pocket.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 17:15:23 -0000 Message-ID: <397F1CAB.E11D59E4@corp.pocket.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:15:23 -0700 From: Brian Nelson Organization: PocketScience, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en, pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... References: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> <20000726114511.A13959@shell.wetworks.org> <397F0B8E.ED0F5570@corp.pocket.com> <397F10A4.B42FD43F@cup.hp.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9146575D8C4264F3F64B3660" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------9146575D8C4264F3F64B3660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the suggestions. I don't know exactly what fixed it, but here's what I did... 1) Got the linux_base from the packages on ftp.freebsd.org, and installed it. 2) Made a new kernel configuration file off the GENERIC kernel, and installed it. (this may be the module rebuild that Mr. Saxon was talking about, because I did see it make it) -- Brian Nelson/Web Developer/Pocket.com, Inc/brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Nondeterminism means never having to say you are wrong. --------------9146575D8C4264F3F64B3660 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the suggestions.  I don't know exactly what fixed it, but here's what I did...

1) Got the linux_base from the packages on ftp.freebsd.org, and installed it.
2) Made a new kernel configuration file off the GENERIC kernel, and installed it.  (this may be the module rebuild that Mr. Saxon was talking about, because I did see it make it) 

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  --------------9146575D8C4264F3F64B3660-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:17:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper4-d108.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.57.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2327337B7E1 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33FAD7; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397F1CE9.1CC0C1E2@es.co.nz> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:16:25 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > Hello, > > I've had a quick look at NVidia's "src-rpm" for its driver under Linux, and I've been > very disappointed to see that the main parts of this driver are 3 binary object files > for which there is no source. > > This inhibits porting by people from the FreeBSD projects - and it's sad, > considering my owning of a TNT2 ... I'm not sure if you saw my posting to question@freebsd.org but with the announcement of A|W porting Maya v3.0 to Linux, and the expected slew of related applications that will follow, we need the driver support from Nvidia ESPECIALLY when considering their recent push towards workstation solutions (quadro2 line.) Are there many high end cards which require more than an Xserver and/or driver which may already be available? (ala nvidia) -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:19:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB7737BBAE for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000726171909.FBCA23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:19:10 -0700 Message-ID: <397F1D8D.752DBDCD@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:19:09 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's good - it seems to have changed in this respect recently. Is the new kernel that is build installed as /kernel or /XXX where XXX is the kernel name? I hope it is the former. Otherwise the docs need to be changed - say put in the kernel config makeoptions KERNEL=kernel In any case, whatever works needs to be properly documented in the handbook before release 4.1 goes out. > > 'make buildkernel' works without a populated /usr/obj tree, and with > only the /usr/src/sys tree and /usr/src/Makefile and > /usr/src/Makefile.inc. I know because I just tried it. > > The only thing that needs to change is the setting of OBJFORMAT_PATH > from ${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec to ${WORLTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec. > > What do you think, Marcel? > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:19:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CF037BF55 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:19:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id e6QHJVx01454; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200007261719.e6QHJVx01454@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@cisco.com Subject: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_481686077P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:19:31 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_481686077P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all-- I just cvsup-ed my sources this morning, and it looks to me like the versions of README.TXT and {i386,alpha}/RELNOTES.TXT that got tagged for RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE still say "4.0-STABLE" rather than "4.1-RELEASE" (at the tops of the files). Is it just me, or does someone need to do an edit->slidetags->reroll on these? Clue-by-four cheerfully accepted if it's just me. Bruce "nitpicker of RELNOTES.TXT" Mah. --==_Exmh_481686077P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: 3drolqidq6jWwz0G917HheAOOLeEbcVS iQA/AwUBOX8do9jKMXFboFLDEQKipACg3HVvk7GUig1/Zy3HzzTn4up9DTMAnja9 GAz+Tn5YZOIHOhF/fI0gCWoI =soMD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_481686077P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:23:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CE237BD03 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750751C7B6 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:23:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:23:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: RC question Message-ID: Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does RELELNG_4 after the RELENG_4_1_0 tagging become 4.1-STABLE or do I have to change any cvsup config files? Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 Public PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:26:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C272E37BF49 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel3.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726ADB6; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id KAA20738; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397F1F36.BB03F95@cup.hp.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:26:14 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> <397F1D8D.752DBDCD@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > Is the new kernel that is build installed as /kernel or > /XXX where XXX is the kernel name? On -stable it's installed with the name of the config file. On -current this has been fixed so that kernels are installed as /kernel. A merge will be done as soon as possible. -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DF437BF2A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:27:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs10.alcatel.fr (mailhub2.alcatel.fr [155.132.188.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id TAA23654; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:26:45 +0200 From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr (frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.32]) by aifhs10.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with SMTP id TAA25720; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:23:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by frmta003.netfr.alcatel.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) id C1256928.005FE010 ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:27:12 +0200 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALCATEL To: mmuir@es.co.nz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:27:10 +0200 Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, We will need more than the basic X-server to use any new graphics board, as their main selling point is 3D, and the basic drivers of X are way behind. The main issue is in establishing FreeBSD as a "credible" platform (how many users of FreeBSD want to pay for a 3D-optimized A|W application ?) TfH Mike Muir on 26/07/2000 19:16:25 Please respond to mmuir@es.co.nz To: Thierry HERBELOT/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > Hello, > > I've had a quick look at NVidia's "src-rpm" for its driver under Linux, and I've been > very disappointed to see that the main parts of this driver are 3 binary object files > for which there is no source. > > This inhibits porting by people from the FreeBSD projects - and it's sad, > considering my owning of a TNT2 ... I'm not sure if you saw my posting to question@freebsd.org but with the announcement of A|W porting Maya v3.0 to Linux, and the expected slew of related applications that will follow, we need the driver support from Nvidia ESPECIALLY when considering their recent push towards workstation solutions (quadro2 line.) Are there many high end cards which require more than an Xserver and/or driver which may already be available? (ala nvidia) -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:32:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721637BEE7 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@pooh.elsevier.nl) Received: (from steve@localhost) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA66757; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:48:39 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steve) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:48:37 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Dan Larsson Subject: RE: RC question Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-Jul-00 Dan Larsson wrote: > Does RELELNG_4 after the RELENG_4_1_0 tagging become 4.1-STABLE or do I Yes. > have to change any cvsup config files? No. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:37:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBC137BF4B for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27767; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:37:20 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Dan Larsson Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: RC question Message-ID: <20000726103720.A26300@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: ; from dl@tyfon.net on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 07:23:39PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 07:23:39PM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > Does RELELNG_4 after the RELENG_4_1_0 tagging become 4.1-STABLE or do I > have to change any cvsup config files? RELENG_4 refers to the 4.x branch. When used as a tag, it results in checking out the head of that branch. Shortly after the tag that will be 4.1-STABLE. RELENG_4 will always refer to the very latest 4.x code be it RELEASE or STABLE. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:40:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0DF37BD1C for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02703; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:40:06 -0700 Message-ID: <397F2276.FCE2B8C8@urx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:40:06 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Larsson Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: RC question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Larsson wrote: > > Does RELELNG_4 after the RELENG_4_1_0 tagging become 4.1-STABLE or do I > have to change any cvsup config files? You use RELENG_4 until we have a RELENG_5 and can follow it. FWIW, my uname now shows FreeBSD jade.kbs.com 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 26 09:33:29 PDT 2 000 root@jade.kbs.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JADE i386 It continues on. Kent > > Regards > +------ > Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 > Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 > Public PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 10:46:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCC137BF68 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HVFH-0006kQ-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:45:27 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HVFG-0002Hm-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:45:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:45:26 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Dan Larsson Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: RC question Message-ID: <20000726184526.M28657@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Larsson wrote: > Does RELELNG_4 after the RELENG_4_1_0 tagging become 4.1-STABLE yes. > or do I have to change any cvsup config files? no. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11: 9:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127EC37B790 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000726180940.HIDP23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:09:40 -0700 Message-ID: <397F2963.5A2367D2@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:09:39 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> <397F1D8D.752DBDCD@math.missouri.edu> <397F1F36.BB03F95@cup.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > > Is the new kernel that is build installed as /kernel or > > /XXX where XXX is the kernel name? > > On -stable it's installed with the name of the config file. On -current > this has been fixed so that kernels are installed as /kernel. A merge > will be done as soon as possible. > OK, please before the 4.1 release is put onto CD's. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11:13: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0DA37BD48 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA11598 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:12:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id LAA15478 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:12:50 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id OAA08694; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:12:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14719.10785.581376.324135@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:12:49 -0700 (MST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: <397F2963.5A2367D2@math.missouri.edu> References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> <397F1D8D.752DBDCD@math.missouri.edu> <397F1F36.BB03F95@cup.hp.com> <397F2963.5A2367D2@math.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, July 26, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: ] > > OK, please before the 4.1 release is put onto CD's. > I agree (if possible) ... it will only lessen the number of "I followed the procedure but still couldn't boot the kernel" messages that will certainly flood stable in the future after 4.1 hits the streets in CD form. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11:18:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40BA37B50F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000726181850.HVIH23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:18:50 -0700 Message-ID: <397F2B89.E98CC62A@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:18:49 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: <3979B866.71DB447E@math.missouri.edu> <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Also better make sure that if the user does /stand/sysinstall as root, choose Configure, then Distributions, then src, then sys then /usr/src/Makefile and /usr/src/Makefile.inc gets put in place. Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > 'make buildkernel' works without a populated /usr/obj tree, and with > only the /usr/src/sys tree and /usr/src/Makefile and > /usr/src/Makefile.inc. I know because I just tried it. > > The only thing that needs to change is the setting of OBJFORMAT_PATH > from ${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec to ${WORLTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec. > > What do you think, Marcel? > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11:25:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scully.gothworld.com (scully.gothworld.com [204.177.57.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B157537C065 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmo@scully.gothworld.com) Received: from localhost (asmo@localhost) by scully.gothworld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00269 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:19:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from asmo@scully.gothworld.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:19:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FTPD error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I am trying to get my ftpd to work in a start up script, or just start at command line, but Im having some trouble with it. Im using /usr/libexec/ftpd -l -D to start the deamon, No error message is displayed, I do a ps -aux and I see nop mention of ftpd running on the system I then look at /var/log/ftpd and find the following message: Jul 26 13:18:09 scully ftpd[142]: control socket: Protocol not supported Any ideas? None of my services are commented out, and inetd is not running since I am using a startup script. Any ideas, ? THanks alot Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11:36:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3412E37BA79 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@mail.yourfit.com) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24681 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:36:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:36:41 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx In-Reply-To: <397F1CE9.1CC0C1E2@es.co.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Mike Muir wrote: > Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > > > I've had a quick look at NVidia's "src-rpm" for its driver under > > Linux, and I've been very disappointed to see that the main parts > > of this driver are 3 binary object files for which there is no > > source. > > > > This inhibits porting by people from the FreeBSD projects - and > > it's sad, considering my owning of a TNT2 ... > > I'm not sure if you saw my posting to question@freebsd.org but with > the announcement of A|W porting Maya v3.0 to Linux, and the expected > slew of related applications that will follow, we need the driver > support from Nvidia ESPECIALLY when considering their recent push > towards workstation solutions (quadro2 line.) Are there many high > end cards which require more than an Xserver and/or driver which may > already be available? (ala nvidia) The new ATI Radeon must not be overlooked, nor should the Voodoo5. Many of the people who are doing the most serious graphics work will be using one of those two cards. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11:46:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52B337B9C6 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA41966; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:45:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Message-ID: <20000726114557.A41545@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007251731.NAA00748@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 01:30:52PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 01:30:52PM +0200, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > Perhaps we should make a specs file for FreeBSD by, say, interpolating > between the builtin specs and Mandrake's specs? We use built-in specs (ie, hard coded) vs. the external specs file. I would prefer to stick with the FreeBSD hard coded values as it removes one variable when people report compiler problems. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 11:53: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C7737B9C6 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22065; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:52:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007261852.LAA22065@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000726024423.00b49cc0@207.227.119.2> from "Jeffrey J. Mountin" at "Jul 26, 0 03:09:51 am" To: jeff-ml@mountin.net (Jeffrey J. Mountin) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:52:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > IMO, 'info' is a bit unfriendly, but I don't care to get into vi vs > emacs and just try to avoid 'info' when possible. The current stand-alone info reader has both emacs and vi -like key bindings. Plus a roll-your-own configurability... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 12:16: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2330237BE01 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA85011; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:16:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:16:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: <200007261604.JAA20387@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, John Polstra wrote: >I would lean more toward keeping the crypto code in separate >distributions for a while longer. When we folded the cvs-crypto CVSup >collection into cvs-all, I got an e-mail from one person who was quite >upset because he assumed it meant that crypto wouldn't be in separate >binary distributions any more. At least to him, it was important to >keep the ability to be completely crypto-free. It's no longer possible to be crypto free if you're a -current user. Make of that what you will. As for changing the crypto distributions, I would recommend holding off until the RSA patent expires before making any more changes in the crypto structure. At that time we will have to alter our current crypto mechanisms anyway so it makes much more sense to do it all at once. It's a lot easier if you can issue a HEADS UP warning people not to update during a given window and then make all of your crypto related repository changes at once, following up with instructions on how to use the new crypto collections and the official notice to begin updating again. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 12:26: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A980937BF2C for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA45956; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007261925.MAA45956@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTTT In-Reply-To: from "Brandon D. Valentine" at "Jul 26, 2000 03:16:48 pm" To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > As for changing the crypto distributions, I would recommend holding off > until the RSA patent expires before making any more changes in the > crypto structure. At that time we will have to alter our current crypto > mechanisms anyway so it makes much more sense to do it all at once. > It's a lot easier if you can issue a HEADS UP warning people not to > update during a given window and then make all of your crypto related > repository changes at once, following up with instructions on how to use > the new crypto collections and the official notice to begin updating > again. The next release won't be until after Sept 15, so this condition is already satisified. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 12:33:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx2out.umbc.edu (mx2out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C33B37BF2D for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from gl.umbc.edu (dobbs.ucs.umbc.edu [130.85.70.38]) by mx2out.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16639 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (randy@localhost) by gl.umbc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25687 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:33:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dobbs.ucs.umbc.edu: randy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:33:02 -0400 (EDT) From: philipp randy X-Sender: randy@dobbs.ucs.umbc.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Strange ad0 errors... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have just built a machine and put 4.1-RC on it. It is a 2 processor Pentium/P54C box. After I finally got it up and cvsuped the lastest 4.x-STABLE sources, I decided to test it with setiathome, and I ended up getting the following errors after I rebooted teh box: Jul 26 02:40:17 stang /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout - resetting Jul 26 02:40:17 stang /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Jul 26 02:40:18 stang /kernel: ad0: read interrupt arrived earlyad0: read error detected (too) lateswap_pager: I/O error - pagein failed; blkno 12392,size 32768, error 5 Jul 26 02:40:18 stang /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 246 (setiathome) Jul 26 02:40:37 stang /kernel: pid 246 (setiathome), uid 65534: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) These errors occured about 50 minutes after the box came up. This a new drive, and I have aready done a Low Level Reformat the first time I got this error. The drive is in PIO mode. Let me know if you want any additional information. Randy Philipp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 12:43:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2049E37BE2F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA39129; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007261952.MAA39129@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mylex 160/170/352/2000/3000 driver available In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:19:56 +0200." <4.3.2.7.2.20000726151700.042afc50@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:52:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike, > > For the 170, any plans to get GAM running on FreeBSD? Mylex and I are both interested in seeing GAM available for FreeBSD. Driver support has been first on the list however. 8) > "Global Array Manager (GAM) software & drive set for Windows 2000, > Windows NT, SCO Unix/UnixWare & NetWare, Sun Solaris and Linux on CD." > > Do you think it woul run Linux emulation? No; there is a large kernel component which will have to be ported. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 12:47:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622F437BDEF for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA39162; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007261956.MAA39162@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Petr Murmak" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:58:36 +0200." <024901bff71a$5b79e9f0$0101a8c0@palitko> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:56:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi! > > I have RAID version of Promise ATAPI 66 card (FastTrak66). > > In bios i make one mirrored virtual disk from two physical disks. Then I > started installation of FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. > But in installation seems, that FreeBSD know both physical disks. > > So, is this card supported as RAID, or I must use it as normal ATAPI? The FastTrak cards are not RAID cards; they are dual-port ATA cards with (lame) RAID software in the BIOS on the card. They require Windows drivers which take over the RAID work once you have booted Windows, or you can use them as plain dual-port ATA-66 cards. If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:19:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A4C37BE1D for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA32914; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:19:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA31974; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:19:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007262019.OAA31974@harmony.village.org> To: Rasmus Skaarup Subject: Re: make world fail (at) (fwd) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:38:24 +0200." References: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:19:08 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Rasmus Skaarup writes: : ".depend", line 3: Need an operator Try removing the /usr/src/usr.bin/at/.depend and /usr/obj/usr.bin/at/.depend. It looks like the .depend file is corrupted somehow. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:29:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail02.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F9B37BFD4 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by mail02.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 1912084; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:34:46 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Trond Endrestøl , mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:24:54 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Dave Glowacki , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072615292401.00199@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Trond Endrestøl wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > > > On 24 Jul, Dave Glowacki wrote: > > Take a look at the PR I mentioned already: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19245 > > > > = Were both FreeBSD and Mandrake using the exact same version of gcc? > > = Did the Mandrake version have any Linux-specific patches applied? > > > > At least, gcc -v shows nothing special. It is all in the PR. If Mandrake > > does apply some fixes, may be, FreeBSD needs to do so too? This is worth > > investigating, instead of discounting with "don't use optimization". > Maybe there's some difference between the builtin specs that FreeBSD > uses and the specs in > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.2/specs that Mandrake uses. > > Perhaps we should make a specs file for FreeBSD by, say, interpolating > between the builtin specs and Mandrake's specs? > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Trond Endrestøl | trond@gtf.ol.no > Merkantilvegen 59HB7, | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no > N-2815 GJØVIK, NORWAY |+47 61139424 || +47 63874242 > Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.4 & Pine 4.21 > You should be very careful with using Mandrake's specs, particulary with regard to the kernel. I have Mandrake loaded on another partition of my HD, and I have had to download kernel source from kernel.org and compile a new "pure", non-Mandrake, kernel to get any stability whatever in the system. As soon as I can figure out how to make a Slackware system accept modprobe sb, I will be reinstalling Slack. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:30:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C007737C000 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: by dns.comrax.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id C845B1C997; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:30:38 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B933116E22 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:30:38 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:30:38 +0300 (IDT) From: To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: one IP, multiple hosts. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm wondering about a certain issue I would like to get help on. Suppose you have one IP, 192.168.10.80, which is the IP of many hosted domains (and their respective hosts) on a certain web server. Using Apache's NameVirtualHost and VirtualHost directives, I can direct the flow of packets being sent to the same IP to different hosts. My question is: using tcpdump, trafshow, snort, or any other program I don't know about, how can I know which host is being accessed when the only information I got is: IP address, and port number (80 for web) ? Thanks for your help in advance. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:33:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B318A37BF2A; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA31604; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:32:15 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04658; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:28:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007262028.QAA04658@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID To: Mike Smith Cc: Petr Murmak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200007261956.MAA39162@mass.osd.bsdi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26 Jul, Mike Smith wrote: = The FastTrak cards are not RAID cards; they are dual-port ATA cards = with (lame) RAID software in the BIOS on the card. They require = Windows drivers which take over the RAID work once you have booted = Windows, or you can use them as plain dual-port ATA-66 cards. = = If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. We see ccd driver doing wonders with several disks connected through Promise ATA cards. Speed of 20-60Mb/s is achievable with CPU utilization much smaller then when using the 3Ware card. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E617037B5D3 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bob.Hufnagel@intel.com) Received: from SMTP (fmsmsxvs02-1.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.202]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with SMTP id UAA08778 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:40:03 GMT Received: from fmsmsx29.FM.INTEL.COM ([132.233.48.29]) by 132.233.48.202 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:39:05 0000 (GMT) Received: from intel.com (rhhufnag-mobl.fm.intel.com [132.233.63.139]) by fmsmsx29.FM.INTEL.COM with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id PJRCABMQ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:39:04 -0700 Message-ID: <397F4C67.4E7BBBEC@intel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:39:03 -0700 From: Bob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Please add me to this mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please add me to the stable mailing list. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:39:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C33337BF80 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: by dns.comrax.com (Postfix, from userid 100) id 9EB241C999; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:39:38 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968A716E22 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:39:38 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:39:38 +0300 (IDT) From: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI LVD(S) card & disk for FreeBSD. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I am looking for a well supported SCSI-II/III LVD(S) card under FreeBSD. Plus, recommended LVD(S) disks for that card. Also, supposing I got the above mentioned hardware and I am looking for a RAID solution (sync read/write from/to many disks on-the-fly), what would be your recommendations? (both hardware and software). Thank you for your help. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:49:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB6637BEE8 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA39514; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007262057.NAA39514@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: Petr Murmak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:28:43 EDT." <200007262028.QAA04658@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:57:22 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 26 Jul, Mike Smith wrote: > = The FastTrak cards are not RAID cards; they are dual-port ATA cards > = with (lame) RAID software in the BIOS on the card. They require > = Windows drivers which take over the RAID work once you have booted > = Windows, or you can use them as plain dual-port ATA-66 cards. > = > = If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. > > We see ccd driver doing wonders with several disks connected through > Promise ATA cards. Speed of 20-60Mb/s is achievable with CPU utilization > much smaller then when using the 3Ware card. I'd be very interested to see your tests and results on this. (Obviously, since you would have seen my name on the 3ware driver.) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:50:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.med.und.nodak.edu (smtp.med.und.NoDak.edu [134.129.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7C237BE2F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bpederson@geocities.com) Received: from geo.med.und.nodak.edu ([134.129.166.11] helo=geocities.com) by smtp.med.und.nodak.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13HY8O-0001SR-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:50:32 -0500 Message-ID: <397F4F0D.82ECEADE@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:50:21 -0500 From: Barry Pederson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID References: <200007261956.MAA39162@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. I'm curious how well the 3ware cards work under FreeBSD feature-wise? Can you hot-swap drives (assuming you have an IDE hot-swap frame and cartridge like Promise cards support)? Can a broken mirror be rebuilt on-the-fly while FreeBSD is running? or do you have to run some sort of BIOS or DOS utility to get things going again? Barry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 13:54:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C24937BF7B; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA85802; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:55:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Mike Smith Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, Petr Murmak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID In-Reply-To: <200007262057.NAA39514@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Mike Smith wrote: >I'd be very interested to see your tests and results on this. >(Obviously, since you would have seen my name on the 3ware driver.) I would like to see these benchmarks as well. I'm fixing to install a new NFS RAID server running FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE and I already have both PCI Promise ATA66 controllers and an 8 channel 3Ware IDE RAID card. I would prefer to use the 3Ware just because of the hardware nature of the solution, reducing my administration burden. But, if the performance increases are that great I'd consider doing ccd or vinum. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14: 7: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACB937B674 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fcasadei@inwind.it) Received: from gw5a60-1-d679.wind.it (212.141.91.45) by relay2.inwind.it; 26 Jul 2000 23:06:48 +0200 Received: (qmail 1423 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jul 2000 21:05:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:05:44 +0200 From: Francesco Casadei To: freebsd-stable mailing list Subject: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup Message-ID: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today I cvsuped and rebuilt everything. After reboot, I started xmms-1.2.2 as usual to play mp3 files and I heard sound with clicks (like the sound of an old record). If I play a CD by pressing the play button on my Plextor, the sound is fine like before. Here are more details on my system: casimiro> uname -a FreeBSD casimirhost.kasby 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Wed Jul 26 19:34:49 CEST 200 0 root@casimirhost.kasby:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CASIMIRHOST i386 casimiro> dmesg | egrep '(sbc|pcm)' sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 pcm0: on sbc0 casimiro> cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 26 2000 19:34:01 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1p/1r channels duplex) casimiro> egrep '(pcm|sbc)' /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CASIMIRHOST device pcm device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 casimiro> ll mi* sequencer* dsp* audio* music* pss* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 26 Lug 19:55 audio -> audio0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 4 26 Lug 19:55 audio0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 26 Lug 19:55 dsp -> dsp0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 3 26 Lug 22:34 dsp0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 5 26 Lug 19:55 dspW -> dspW0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 5 26 Lug 20:35 dspW0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 2 26 Lug 19:55 midi0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 26 Lug 19:55 mixer -> mixer0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0 26 Lug 19:55 mixer0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 26 Lug 19:55 music -> music0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 8 26 Lug 19:55 music0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 26 Lug 19:55 pss -> pss0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 9 26 Lug 19:55 pss0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 10 26 Lug 19:55 sequencer -> sequencer0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 1 26 Lug 19:55 sequencer0 So what's the problem? Francesco Casadei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:14:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971D937BE79 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:14:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA39669; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007262123.OAA39669@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Barry Pederson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:50:21 CDT." <397F4F0D.82ECEADE@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:23:39 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. > > I'm curious how well the 3ware cards work under FreeBSD feature-wise? Can you > hot-swap drives (assuming you have an IDE hot-swap frame and cartridge like > Promise cards support)? The 6x00 series cards support hotswap. You need to reboot with the 5x00 cards. Note that ATA has no out-of-band swap notification, so working out whether a new disk has been inserted is an iffy proposition at best. > Can a broken mirror be rebuilt on-the-fly while > FreeBSD is running? or do you have to run some sort of BIOS or DOS utility to > get things going again? With the 5x00 adapters you need to reboot and handhold the BIOS. The sample I have has bad firmware, and doesn't do this right, but they've just posted a firmware upgrade that is meant to resolve this, as well as adding support for RAID10 (mirrored stripes - go-faster stuff). The 6x00 adapters are meant to resolve all this; I'll have one next week and will be adding support ASAP. Note that you can't do *any* of this with ccd or Vinum (apart from the online rebuild), and you can't get a reliable boot volume without a BIOS-level solution. I'd love to see Vinum understand the Promise config information, for example. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:20:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8FE37BE64 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00453; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: bmah@cisco.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:19:31 PDT." <200007261719.e6QHJVx01454@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:20:04 -0700 Message-ID: <450.964646404@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Argh! I knew I'd forgotten something, but at 4:30am I just couldn't remember what.. :-) I've also just recently moved machines and I couldn't find my TODO list from 4.0, so what's long been on my checklist of things to verify just didn't get checked. Not a crisis in any case since I'd still not actually rolled the release (that's happening now) so I had the chance, after reading your mail, to fix things up. Thanks for the much-needed reminder! - Jordan > --==_Exmh_481686077P > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi all-- > > I just cvsup-ed my sources this morning, and it looks to me like the > versions of README.TXT and {i386,alpha}/RELNOTES.TXT that got tagged for > RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE still say "4.0-STABLE" rather than "4.1-RELEASE" > (at the tops of the files). Is it just me, or does someone need to do an > edit->slidetags->reroll on these? > > Clue-by-four cheerfully accepted if it's just me. > > Bruce "nitpicker of RELNOTES.TXT" Mah. > > > > > --==_Exmh_481686077P > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use > MessageID: 3drolqidq6jWwz0G917HheAOOLeEbcVS > > iQA/AwUBOX8do9jKMXFboFLDEQKipACg3HVvk7GUig1/Zy3HzzTn4up9DTMAnja9 > GAz+Tn5YZOIHOhF/fI0gCWoI > =soMD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --==_Exmh_481686077P-- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:22:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D72F37BEA3; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HYcO-000721-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:21:32 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HYcN-000CaG-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:21:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:21:31 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: "Bruce A. Mah" , jkh@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? Message-ID: <20000726222131.P28657@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <200007261719.e6QHJVx01454@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007261719.e6QHJVx01454@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I just cvsup-ed my sources this morning, and it looks to me like the > versions of README.TXT and {i386,alpha}/RELNOTES.TXT that got tagged for > RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE still say "4.0-STABLE" rather than "4.1-RELEASE" > (at the tops of the files). Is it just me, or does someone need to do an > edit->slidetags->reroll on these? Hmm, I see what you mean. Jordan, do these need fixing? It would look rather silly if the CDs went out with a readme saying "4.0-stable snapshot" or something. :-( -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:26:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0B2E37BEB6 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 28180 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 2000 21:26:19 -0000 Received: from p3ee0b80b.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.224.184.11) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 26 Jul 2000 21:26:19 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27883 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:44:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:44:01 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock Message-ID: <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl> <20000726172005.A79537@chuggalug.clues.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000726172005.A79537@chuggalug.clues.com>; from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 05:20:05PM +0100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 17:20 +0100, Geoff Buckingham wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:13:05AM -0400, Marcelo J. Iturbe wrote: > > > > Running FreeBSD 3.3 I have the following scenario: > > The filesystem won't boot. > > When I try to mount (/dev/da0s2) it from an emergency boot disk I get a > > "Incorrect Superblock" error. > > When I try to run fsck it gives me an error about wrong magic number. > > Here is the partition information > > What kind of file system is this? (ie ffs or FAT16/32) > If it is ufs/ffs are you specifying a partition as well as a slice? > > example command line>mount /dev/da0s2a /mnt Which turns out to be a little hard sometimes (been there with the 4.0 CD set this week) when the fixit media doesn't have slice entries in /dev and you don't have access to the (yet to be mounted!) filesystem with the appropriate /dev entries. Funnily ad0s1 happily gets mounted when it regularly should be ad0s1a, later I found that the minor numbers are the same for them. But the fixit prompts never would let me access slices other than *a. And it took quite some time to find the minors' numbering (I finally found it when reading disklabel(5) for completely other reasons). Once this is known you can mknod(8) whatever you need at the fixit prompt. Returning to the problem: From L*'s ext2fs I know of a method to fallback to the superblock's copies sprinkled all over the disk (every 8192 blocks?) when the "first" one is damaged. This info could at least be used to restore the first one to make mount work again. Is there some similar mechanism for ffs/ufs? virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:28:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BE137B674 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00419; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:28:12 -0700 Message-ID: <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:28:12 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: bmah@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? References: <450.964646404@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Argh! I knew I'd forgotten something, but at 4:30am I just couldn't > remember what.. :-) > > I've also just recently moved machines and I couldn't find my TODO > list from 4.0, so what's long been on my checklist of things to verify > just didn't get checked. Not a crisis in any case since I'd still not > actually rolled the release (that's happening now) so I had the > chance, after reading your mail, to fix things up. Thanks for the > much-needed reminder! I have all 3 of my machines running builds of 4.1-stable and everything seems to be cool. One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you rebuild in general or what? Kent > > - Jordan > > > --==_Exmh_481686077P > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Hi all-- > > > > I just cvsup-ed my sources this morning, and it looks to me like the > > versions of README.TXT and {i386,alpha}/RELNOTES.TXT that got tagged for > > RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE still say "4.0-STABLE" rather than "4.1-RELEASE" > > (at the tops of the files). Is it just me, or does someone need to do an > > edit->slidetags->reroll on these? > > > > Clue-by-four cheerfully accepted if it's just me. > > > > Bruce "nitpicker of RELNOTES.TXT" Mah. > > > > > > > > > > --==_Exmh_481686077P > > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use > > MessageID: 3drolqidq6jWwz0G917HheAOOLeEbcVS > > > > iQA/AwUBOX8do9jKMXFboFLDEQKipACg3HVvk7GUig1/Zy3HzzTn4up9DTMAnja9 > > GAz+Tn5YZOIHOhF/fI0gCWoI > > =soMD > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > --==_Exmh_481686077P-- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:29: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [206.11.249.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D65037BEA3; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA02946; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:29:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <017f01bff748$92c20cc0$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: References: <200007261956.MAA39162@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:29:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" | If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. How is it supported in FreeBSD? I don't see a LINT entry for it and they only seem to offer Linux/Windows drivers. Or is this a -CURRENT thing? I wish they'd make something like this a purely hardware solution so that drivers wouldn't get in the way, especially if they could keep the 2-port version $125. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:32: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE82C37BFA8 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:31:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id VAA22768; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:31:26 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA25712; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:31:41 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA20596; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:31:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14719.22717.318446.637828@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:31:41 -0700 (MST) To: kstewart@urx.com Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-Reply-To: <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> References: <450.964646404@localhost> <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, July 26, Kent Stewart wrote: ] > > I have all 3 of my machines running builds of 4.1-stable and > everything seems to be cool. > > One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you > rebuild in general or what? > I know one thing that needs to be rebuilt for sure--if you use GNOME and or anything that depends on libgtop, pkd_delete it and rebuild libgtop. I use the "cpumon" applet and it happily won't load when we transition across STABLE->RC and RC->RELEASE->STABLE transitions. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:37:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9648F37BEA3 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA11054; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:37:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA26562; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:37:00 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA20964; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:37:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14719.23036.667658.954328@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:37:00 -0700 (MST) To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock In-Reply-To: <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl> <20000726172005.A79537@chuggalug.clues.com> <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, July 26, Gerhard Sittig wrote: ] > > Which turns out to be a little hard sometimes (been there with > the 4.0 CD set this week) when the fixit media doesn't have slice > entries in /dev and you don't have access to the (yet to be > mounted!) filesystem with the appropriate /dev entries. Funnily > ad0s1 happily gets mounted when it regularly should be ad0s1a, > later I found that the minor numbers are the same for them. But > the fixit prompts never would let me access slices other than *a. > And it took quite some time to find the minors' numbering (I > finally found it when reading disklabel(5) for completely other > reasons). Once this is known you can mknod(8) whatever you need > at the fixit prompt. That brings up a topic that I'd started in this group about 2 weeks ago when I had a similar "difficult" experience using the "fixit" procedure after booting from CD. I ended up getting the CD's MAKEDEV to work after I un-hard-coded /sbin/mknod ... much more difficult than it should be me thinks. I intend on working on the problem and contributing a chapter to the handbook on "using the fixit disk" but didn't want to push things as we were going through the release cycle. I want Jordan to get some needed sleep before I spam him and the rest of the list with what-if questions regarding the fixit floppy, etc. (for instance, MAKEDEV has a special "fixit" ``target'' with comments saying "gotta reduce devices to save precious inodes" ... so the natural inclination of making "sh MAKEDEV all|fixit" create the slice entries seems like that won't work). More in a few days after 4.1-R excitement dies down a bit. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:37:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6195637BF99 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id e6QLZqh04959; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200007262135.e6QLZqh04959@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: bmah@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-Reply-To: <450.964646404@localhost> References: <450.964646404@localhost> Comments: In-reply-to "Jordan K. Hubbard" message dated "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:20:04 -0700." From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_489299060P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:35:32 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_489299060P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > Argh! I knew I'd forgotten something, but at 4:30am I just couldn't > remember what.. :-) That describes much of my graduate school experience. > Not a crisis in any case since I'd still not > actually rolled the release (that's happening now) so I had the > chance, after reading your mail, to fix things up. Thanks for the > much-needed reminder! You're welcome...glad to be doing something useful. :-) Bruce. --==_Exmh_489299060P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: bHyjYu/IXUqvN3GPNFyzDYvF+VT03vlr iQA/AwUBOX9ZpNjKMXFboFLDEQLv+ACgygmoTwrHLKPzUqVfPgFP2aeYl2oAmwYD pXKazvZ9YvIs/bksTQd+FH+I =syZ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_489299060P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:42: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089E437BFB0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 14003084; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:40:46 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Francesco Casadei , freebsd-stable mailing list Subject: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:38:56 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> In-Reply-To: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072616414604.00199@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Francesco Casadei wrote: > Today I cvsuped and rebuilt everything. After reboot, I started > xmms-1.2.2 as usual to play mp3 files and I heard sound with clicks > (like the sound of an old record). > If I play a CD by pressing the play button on my Plextor, the > sound is fine like before. > Here are more details on my system: > > casimiro> uname -a > FreeBSD casimirhost.kasby 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Wed Jul 26 > 19:34:49 CEST 200 > 0 root@casimirhost.kasby:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CASIMIRHOST i386 > > casimiro> dmesg | egrep '(sbc|pcm)' > sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa0 > sbc0: setting card to irq 5, drq 1, 5 > pcm0: on sbc0 > > casimiro> cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 26 2000 19:34:01 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1p/1r channels duplex) > > casimiro> egrep '(pcm|sbc)' /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CASIMIRHOST > device pcm > device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 > > casimiro> ll mi* sequencer* dsp* audio* music* pss* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 26 Lug 19:55 audio -> audio0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 4 26 Lug 19:55 audio0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 26 Lug 19:55 dsp -> dsp0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 3 26 Lug 22:34 dsp0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 5 26 Lug 19:55 dspW -> dspW0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 5 26 Lug 20:35 dspW0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 2 26 Lug 19:55 midi0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 26 Lug 19:55 mixer -> mixer0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 0 26 Lug 19:55 mixer0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 26 Lug 19:55 music -> music0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 8 26 Lug 19:55 music0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 26 Lug 19:55 pss -> pss0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 9 26 Lug 19:55 pss0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 10 26 Lug 19:55 sequencer -> sequencer0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 1 26 Lug 19:55 sequencer0 > > So what's the problem? > > Francesco Casadei I'm now using the identical sound card, except kernel reports mine as sbc1. cd /dev sh MAKEDEV snd0 BTW mine works perfectly with 4.1-RC built last night. I'm listening to Chopin on Klassik.ram from Iceland. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:42:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C3537BFCC for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:42:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HYw3-0007TG-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:41:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:41:50 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) Message-ID: <20000726174150.E21784@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl> <20000726172005.A79537@chuggalug.clues.com> <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 09:44:01PM +0200 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gerhard Sittig probably said: > Which turns out to be a little hard sometimes (been there with > the 4.0 CD set this week) when the fixit media doesn't have slice > entries in /dev and you don't have access to the (yet to be > mounted!) filesystem with the appropriate /dev entries. Funnily Speaking of fixit media, is there still a fixit CD image ? My new laptop has (amongst it's other minor problems) a USB floppy, which works to boot/install from, but sysinstall doesn't see it as a floppy for use with the fixit floppy (it appears as da0). Now, I do have a bootable cdrom drive, so a bootable fixit CD with an image on it would be very useful to me - is there one (to purchase or an image), which sysinstall can use as the "live" image ? Can I just burn a CD with boot.flp as the boot image and the filesystem from my existing machine and expect it to work ? Thanks, P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:44:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4D137BF49 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HYyK-0007Vq-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:44:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:44:12 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? Message-ID: <20000726174412.F21784@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <450.964646404@localhost> <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> <14719.22717.318446.637828@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14719.22717.318446.637828@hip186.ch.intel.com>; from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 02:31:41PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ probably said: > I know one thing that needs to be rebuilt for sure--if you use GNOME > and or anything that depends on libgtop, pkd_delete it and rebuild > libgtop. I use the "cpumon" applet and it happily won't load when we > transition across STABLE->RC and RC->RELEASE->STABLE transitions. When the OS "version" changes lsof will whine, but still work. I tend to only recompile things that I need to or that I want newer versions of. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C109137C056 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00680; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , bmah@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:28:12 PDT." <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:44:58 -0700 Message-ID: <677.964647898@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you > rebuild in general or what? I'm not sure I understand the question.. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:45:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utfors.se (mail.utfors.se [195.58.103.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6305237BFE5 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from ludd.luth.se (md469200e.utfors.se [212.105.32.14]) by mail.utfors.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27669 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:45:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <397F5BF0.8F1D9B6D@ludd.luth.se> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:45:20 +0200 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Bug in /usr/src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT for 4.1-RELEASE as of 2000-07-26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! There seems to be a slight bug the RELNOTES as of 2000-07-26. (/usr/src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT) The header states: RELEASE NOTES FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE snapshot but in the text it states: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE contains updated code from the KAME project (http://www.kame.net) including the following features: and * FreeBSD 4.1 can now be installed on an IPv6-only network - this will be the first release of FreeBSD that never needs to operate using IPv4 at all! ftp7.jp.freebsd.org (Listed as Japan #7 in sysinstall) is an IPv6-reachable mirror site for installation and package-fetching. I guess the "4.0-STABLE snapshot" is a leftover from the snapshot release a while back? -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:45:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677C637C008 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00473; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:44:50 -0700 Message-ID: <397F5BD2.D48FEF7B@urx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:44:50 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ports and 4.1-Stable (was README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag?) References: <450.964646404@localhost> <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> <14719.22717.318446.637828@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Wednesday, July 26, Kent Stewart wrote: ] > > > > I have all 3 of my machines running builds of 4.1-stable and > > everything seems to be cool. > > > > One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you > > rebuild in general or what? > > > > I know one thing that needs to be rebuilt for sure--if you use GNOME and or > anything that depends on libgtop, pkd_delete it and rebuild libgtop. I use the > "cpumon" applet and it happily won't load when we transition across STABLE->RC > and RC->RELEASE->STABLE transitions. I guess I'm lucky then because I happened to like KDE and it seems to be working just fine. I added GNOME to my system but never ended up using it. KDE also fit into kdevelope. I had noticed the ports INDEX had changed. We have 3613 ports and was getting ready to do a pkg_version -c and see what was behind. With a new system, I thought some of them would be more important to upgrade than others. Especially after the change to the new /binutils. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:48:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9947537BF97 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clefevre@citeweb.net) Received: (qmail 3207337 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2000 21:48:23 -0000 Received: from r227m167.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([195.132.227.167]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Jul 2000 21:48:23 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA58363; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:48:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from clefevre@citeweb.net) To: Vivek Khera Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist and pam References: <200007251902.MAA18524@freeway.dcfinc.com> <4s5delst.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> <14718.62456.823138.807215@onceler.kcilink.com> X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre From: Cyrille Lefevre In-Reply-To: Vivek Khera's message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:21:44 -0400 (EDT)" Date: 26 Jul 2000 23:48:21 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Canyonlands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera writes: > >>>>> "CL" == Cyrille Lefevre writes: > > CL> "Chad R. Larson" writes: > >> As I recall, Vivek Khera wrote: > >> > Use rdist6 (from ports) with SSH as your transport. You'll need to > >> > install rdist6 on each system. > >> > >> If you've got SSH built, you could use scp (secure copy). It's > >> easier to use than rdist. You use it just like rcp, except it uses > >> SHH for a secure connection. > > CL> what about symlinks ? are they followed or copied ? > > rdist makes the symlinks. it duplicates your entire directory tree, > including hard links. I'm asking about scp which seems to be similar to rcp which is buggy about symlinks (and even hardlinks I guess). Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:50:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.corprelay.mail.uu.net [192.48.96.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470337BF64 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkrapf@UU.NET) Received: from npiserve0.corp.us.uu.net by wodc7mr1.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: npiserve0.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.201.152]) id QQizoh12313 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:50:36 GMT Received: by npiserve0.corp.us.uu.net id QQizoh25820 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:50:35 -0400 (EDT) From: dkrapf@UU.NET (Donald E. Krapf) Message-Id: Subject: Re: one IP, multiple hosts. To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:50:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "noor@comrax.com" at Jul 26, 2000 11:30:38 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You misunderstand *Virtual* hosts. Apache's NameVirtualHost allows you to host multiple websites on a single computer with a single IP address. This computer acts like multiple hosts (i.e. Virtual hosts), as far as web service goes, but is not really different hosts. It works by examining the HTTP/1.1 "HOST:" header to associate a request with a website. Since the multiple hosts are a figment of the webserver's imagination, the network monitoring tools don't know anything about them. If you happen to catch an HTTP request, you can read the "HOST:" header to see which virtual host it is destined for. noor@comrax.com writes: > Hi all, > > I'm wondering about a certain issue I would like to get help on. Suppose > you have one IP, 192.168.10.80, which is the IP of many hosted domains > (and their respective hosts) on a certain web server. > > Using Apache's NameVirtualHost and VirtualHost directives, I can direct > the flow of packets being sent to the same IP to different hosts. > > My question is: using tcpdump, trafshow, snort, or any other program I > don't know about, how can I know which host is being accessed when the > only information I got is: IP address, and port number (80 for web) ? > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > Noor Don -- Don Krapf dkrapf@uu.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:52:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9F237B6A0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA15375 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:52:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA29414 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:52:52 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA21928; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:52:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14719.23988.297593.828831@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:52:52 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-Reply-To: <20000726174412.F21784@pir.net> References: <450.964646404@localhost> <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> <14719.22717.318446.637828@hip186.ch.intel.com> <20000726174412.F21784@pir.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, July 26, Peter Radcliffe wrote: ] > > When the OS "version" changes lsof will whine, but still work. > > I tend to only recompile things that I need to or that I want newer > versions of. > > P. > Oh yeah ... I forgot about that booger too .... thanks, -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 14:55: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C46F37C1F7 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 160729B1C; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFCDBA11; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:55:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: noor@comrax.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: one IP, multiple hosts. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 noor@comrax.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm wondering about a certain issue I would like to get help on. Suppose > you have one IP, 192.168.10.80, which is the IP of many hosted domains > (and their respective hosts) on a certain web server. > > Using Apache's NameVirtualHost and VirtualHost directives, I can direct > the flow of packets being sent to the same IP to different hosts. > > My question is: using tcpdump, trafshow, snort, or any other program I > don't know about, how can I know which host is being accessed when the > only information I got is: IP address, and port number (80 for web) ? > By using one of the above programs, you should be able to sniff and find out what host/page was requested (HTTP is plain text). Of course, you can also look in apache's logs. Also, since this really doesn't pertain specifically to FreeBSD -stable branches, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org would probably have been more appropriate. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15: 0:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d164.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.56.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAF537C03B for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE17AD7; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397F5F46.C54E2E6A@es.co.nz> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:59:34 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > Hello, > > We will need more than the basic X-server to use any new graphics board, as > their main selling point is 3D, and the basic drivers of X are way behind. > > The main issue is in establishing FreeBSD as a "credible" platform > (how many users of FreeBSD want to pay for a 3D-optimized A|W application ?) Quite the opposite -- it won't be users of FreeBSD who will be buying a $50,000+ software package -- It is those Animators whom should choose to use FreeBSD! Talk about free publicity.. what happens when another documentary (and there is always another documentary) runs on those animation houses who made the entreprenuereal leap of faith to use their tools under FreeBSD?? WOW.. think of 'how the matrix was made' news on a bigger scale.. -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15: 2: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0597537C087 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@chasm.org) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id SAA00890; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:01:42 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from martin.chasm.org (ts001d17.har-ct.concentric.net [206.83.87.29]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id SAA10458; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000726175438.00ab2c20@chasm.org> X-Sender: vimuhla@pop3.concentric.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:01:35 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Charles Martin Subject: make buildkernel fails linking module umass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have loaded a fresh 4.0-RELEASE, cvsup'd, make buildworld, make installworld, etc. Now for a new kernel. I do a 'make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL'. The build seems to go fine up to this point: linking MYKERNEL umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': [...lots of undefined references...] Does this ring any bells out there? This machine is a laptop: a Sony VAIO PCG-F490. I should mention that I did a fresh release and install on a non-laptop and had no problems. Though I don't see how that would affect the build. In both cases I did a mergemaster beforehand, so that my /etc/make.conf could be up to speed. Any help appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15: 9: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D9437C025; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27007; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:07:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:07:18 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) In-Reply-To: <20000726174150.E21784@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Gerhard Sittig probably said: > > > Which turns out to be a little hard sometimes (been there with the > > 4.0 CD set this week) when the fixit media doesn't have slice > > entries in /dev and you don't have access to the (yet to be > > mounted!) filesystem with the appropriate /dev entries. Funnily > > Speaking of fixit media, is there still a fixit CD image ? My new > laptop has (amongst it's other minor problems) a USB floppy, which > works to boot/install from, but sysinstall doesn't see it as a > floppy for use with the fixit floppy (it appears as da0). > > Now, I do have a bootable cdrom drive, so a bootable fixit CD with > an image on it would be very useful to me - is there one (to > purchase or an image), which sysinstall can use as the "live" image > ? Yes. The second CD of the 4-CD set has a "live" filesystem from which you can run sysinstall (it comes up automatically, actually) and get to a fixit prompt. > Can I just burn a CD with boot.flp as the boot image and the > filesystem from my existing machine and expect it to work ? Hmm...I don't know if there's something else that has to be done to make a CD bootable. Isn't there a target somewhere for making the ISO images? -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15: 9: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D9437C025; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27007; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:07:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:07:18 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) In-Reply-To: <20000726174150.E21784@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Gerhard Sittig probably said: > > > Which turns out to be a little hard sometimes (been there with the > > 4.0 CD set this week) when the fixit media doesn't have slice > > entries in /dev and you don't have access to the (yet to be > > mounted!) filesystem with the appropriate /dev entries. Funnily > > Speaking of fixit media, is there still a fixit CD image ? My new > laptop has (amongst it's other minor problems) a USB floppy, which > works to boot/install from, but sysinstall doesn't see it as a > floppy for use with the fixit floppy (it appears as da0). > > Now, I do have a bootable cdrom drive, so a bootable fixit CD with > an image on it would be very useful to me - is there one (to > purchase or an image), which sysinstall can use as the "live" image > ? Yes. The second CD of the 4-CD set has a "live" filesystem from which you can run sysinstall (it comes up automatically, actually) and get to a fixit prompt. > Can I just burn a CD with boot.flp as the boot image and the > filesystem from my existing machine and expect it to work ? Hmm...I don't know if there's something else that has to be done to make a CD bootable. Isn't there a target somewhere for making the ISO images? -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:12:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5E137BFBA for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00556; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: <397F6235.C68E3DD6@urx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:12:05 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? References: <677.964647898@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you > > rebuild in general or what? > > I'm not sure I understand the question.. It was a generic one. We now have new binary libraries and it would seem that some ports could be affected by the change from 4.0 to 4.1. There were some drastic changes to the binutils and etc. You will also have people upgrading from 2.x or 3.x to 4.0 and that brings a whole new compiler into the picture. Some ports like CodeCrusade died because the compiler was built with different options or had new defines in the header files. It had a new set of libraries and the arguments to some of them could change, which wouldn't affect statically linked codes. The arguments to the /binutils could have changed slightly. I never seemed to have any problems, with the one exception, but I spent a lot of time keeping my ports current. GNOME, which I don't use, was another one that was mentioned as one that needs to be rebuilt. The port people seemed to be keeping up in most cases but I was wondering if there was a policy on rebuilding your ports on new releases or simply letting well enough alone until you find something that is broken. Kent > > - Jordan -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:13:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF91137C02F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id e6QMD4j05394; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200007262213.e6QMD4j05394@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Bug in /usr/src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT for 4.1-RELEASE as of 2000-07-26 In-Reply-To: <397F5BF0.8F1D9B6D@ludd.luth.se> References: <397F5BF0.8F1D9B6D@ludd.luth.se> Comments: In-reply-to Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= message dated "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:45:20 +0200." From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_490721153P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:13:04 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_490721153P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If memory serves me right, Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= wrote: > There seems to be a slight bug the RELNOTES as of 2000-07-26. > (/usr/src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT) There was, but it's been fixed. It might not have propagated to all the cvsup mirrors yet though. Bruce. --==_Exmh_490721153P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: wKWSWChKLFV8VL8e3St3i5m+Db15cmED iQA/AwUBOX9ib9jKMXFboFLDEQL68wCeLRhDqL3dwK+oCyZWzJD1GxnlC9oAmgNq roMYe1vn77RPK4NrXS2geJNl =53Yg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_490721153P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:17:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F16037BF7A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00882; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:12:05 PDT." <397F6235.C68E3DD6@urx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:17:12 -0700 Message-ID: <879.964649832@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It was a generic one. We now have new binary libraries and it would > seem that some ports could be affected by the change from 4.0 to 4.1. > There were some drastic changes to the binutils and etc. There's no generic answer to your generic question. :-) The answer, of course, is "it depends." With over 3600 ports, it's simply not possible to enumerate the list of potentially affected ports. Simply proceed forward cautiously using your best judgement as to when and how you upgrade a 3rd-party component. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:19:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B23237BF98 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fcasadei@inwind.it) Received: from gw5a60-1-d219.wind.it (212.141.86.219) by relay2.inwind.it; 27 Jul 2000 00:18:59 +0200 Received: (qmail 8992 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jul 2000 22:17:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:17:32 +0200 From: Francesco Casadei To: freebsd-stable mailing list Subject: Re: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup Message-ID: <20000727001732.A8980@casimirhost.kasby> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable mailing list References: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> <00072616414604.00199@dave.uhring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <00072616414604.00199@dave.uhring.com>; from duhring@charter.net on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 04:38:56PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 04:38:56PM -0500, David Uhring wrote: > > cd /dev > sh MAKEDEV snd0 > > BTW mine works perfectly with 4.1-RC built last night. I'm listening to Chopin > on Klassik.ram from Iceland. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > end of the original message I already did cd /dev/ sh MAKEDEV snd0 My sb16 too worked perfectly before the last cvsup! Francesco Casadei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:28: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A134C37B81D for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20046 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:27:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000726181239.04b06fe0@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:21:43 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: ppp and default route Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any way to prevent ppp from deleting the default route once a link is dropped ? I am using it in conjunction with the poptop port and there is no need for it to mess with the default route. This behavior started happening after cvsup'ng from a May25th build to a July16th build. I have it re add the default route in ppp.linkdown, but it only seems to work 80% of the time. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:32: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535EC37BF7E for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Received: from db.wireless.net (db.wireless.net [209.75.70.101]) by wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27370; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbm.wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA50065; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) From: Devin Butterfield To: hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:20:27 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> In-Reply-To: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Hasan Diwan wrote: > This appears to be a race condition. It seems that something > arbitrarily locks /dev/dsp (my soundcard) at random intervals and > lsof can't figure out what it is. Brian Fumerola suggested a patch that > decreased the occurence, but it didn't eliminate it. > Another problem is that RealPlayer7 kills X when I load it. No > error is given. > We are still experiencing the same problem as outlined earlier > this month with the ep driver resetting a 3com PnP 3c509TPO card's MAC > address to '00:00:00:00:00:00', and renders it unusable. > I'm having this same problem with pcm on a sony vaio Z505SX (has the neomagic chipset). Attempting to play an mp3 file with mpg123 results in "pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead" and then /dev/dsp is locked. Attempting to play short .wav files results in looping of a half second segment of the .wav file for a long time...then sound stops working. I'm running STABLE (RC): FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Thu Jul 20 on that box. Is this a bug in the pcm driver, or is this the result of poorly supported hardware (specifically the neomagic chipset in the vaio)?? Any ideas? -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:35:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from accord.grasslake.net (accord.grasslake.net [206.11.249.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B04A37BF1A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:35:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Received: from marlowe (Marlowe.campbell-mithun.com [192.159.32.184]) by accord.grasslake.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03116 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:36:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from swb@grasslake.net) Message-ID: <01c601bff751$e22bb4b0$b8209fc0@marlowe> From: "Shawn Barnhart" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000726110451.02e6ef00@msm.cl> <20000726172005.A79537@chuggalug.clues.com> <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet> <20000726174150.E21784@pir.net> Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:36:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Radcliffe" To: | Speaking of fixit media, is there still a fixit CD image ? My new | laptop has (amongst it's other minor problems) a USB floppy, which | works to boot/install from, but sysinstall doesn't see it as a floppy | for use with the fixit floppy (it appears as da0). | | Now, I do have a bootable cdrom drive, so a bootable fixit CD with an | image on it would be very useful to me - is there one (to purchase | or an image), which sysinstall can use as the "live" image ? | | Can I just burn a CD with boot.flp as the boot image and the | filesystem from my existing machine and expect it to work ? I don't know about the latter half of that, but I have used the 2.88 mb image as the boot floppy for an ISO disk image when doing FTP installations. Works great. I'd love to have CD rescue disk that was updatable to STABLE kernels and could have my mix of devices, editors, etc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:37:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E0E37BF92; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA88581; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: telnet nslookup oddity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Randy Bush wrote: > 4.1-rc as of yesterday. the surprise is at the end. Are you sure? This bug was (I thought) fixed some time ago. Are you using an old telnet binary? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:40:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3575337BFB0; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA88963; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:40:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Brian Nelson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... In-Reply-To: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Brian Nelson wrote: > I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux compatability > comes up with a page fault. Even linprocfs doesn't work any more. > I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd. Your modules are out of sync with your kernel. Please follow the documented upgrade procedure whenever you cvsup (see /usr/src/UPDATING). Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:43:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7808837BFE6; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA89233; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:43:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > It's no longer possible to be crypto free if you're a -current user. > Make of that what you will. Yes it is. > As for changing the crypto distributions, I would recommend holding off > until the RSA patent expires before making any more changes in the > crypto structure. At that time we will have to alter our current crypto > mechanisms anyway so it makes much more sense to do it all at once. Only trivially: remove a couple of makefile tests and it will Just Work. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:46:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7C937BFCD; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA89641; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Francesco Casadei Cc: freebsd-stable mailing list Subject: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup In-Reply-To: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Francesco Casadei wrote: > Today I cvsuped and rebuilt everything. After reboot, I started > xmms-1.2.2 as usual to play mp3 files and I heard sound with clicks > (like the sound of an old record). It's a known problem - I've reported it to Cameron Grant and he'll look at it when he gets time. It doesn't happen all the time for me, but when it does I can't find a reliable way to fix it. Recording on the SB16 in 16-bit mode is also broken. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:48:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869E237C006; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA89971; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:48:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-Reply-To: <397F57EC.656861CC@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > One thing I haven't seen is how or what do you do with ports. Do you > rebuild in general or what? Most ports will continue to Just Work as well as they did before (this is even true across major upgrades, if you install the appropriate compatability libraries). The exception is ports which dig their fingers into kernel data structures (e.g. via libkvm) which may need to be recompiled if things move around a bit. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FA237BFA8 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27254; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:49:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:49:51 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: kstewart@urx.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? In-Reply-To: <879.964649832@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > It was a generic one. We now have new binary libraries and it > > would seem that some ports could be affected by the change from > > 4.0 to 4.1. There were some drastic changes to the binutils and > > etc. > > There's no generic answer to your generic question. :-) > > The answer, of course, is "it depends." With over 3600 ports, it's > simply not possible to enumerate the list of potentially affected > ports. Simply proceed forward cautiously using your best judgement > as to when and how you upgrade a 3rd-party component. I learned the hard way that you will probably want to rebuild your X server (I booted RC0 and got a black screen, from which I couldn't even escape to a virtual terminal). Aside from that, whatever spits out unresolved symbols or dumps core. Ain't I helpful? :-) -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 15:59:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA9237B6F4 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13Ha9J-00007J-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:59:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:59:37 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) Message-ID: <20000726185937.H21784@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000726174150.E21784@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 06:07:18PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Watch your To line when replying. That went to stable@ and freebsd-stable@ Chris BeHanna probably said: > Yes. The second CD of the 4-CD set has a "live" filesystem from > which you can run sysinstall (it comes up automatically, actually) and > get to a fixit prompt. That is still done, good. > Hmm...I don't know if there's something else that has to be done > to make a CD bootable. Isn't there a target somewhere for making the > ISO images? Making PC bootable CDs with mkisofs and cdrecord is trivial. I just need the right data to put on it :) It would be nice if I could create my own, since then I could put an image of most of my existing system and my recovery tools on it, all the /dev entries would be correct, etc ... Guess I try it :) P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 16: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26BC37B6F4 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.30 2000/06/08 18:25:35 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id QAA07723 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:08:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id QAA14846 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:08:53 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id TAA27323; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:08:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14719.28549.605436.830460@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:08:53 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) In-Reply-To: <20000726185937.H21784@pir.net> References: <20000726174150.E21784@pir.net> <20000726185937.H21784@pir.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.6.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Wednesday, July 26, Peter Radcliffe wrote: ] > Watch your To line when replying. That went to stable@ and > freebsd-stable@ > > That is still done, good. > > Making PC bootable CDs with mkisofs and cdrecord is trivial. I just > need the right data to put on it :) > > It would be nice if I could create my own, since then I could put an > image of most of my existing system and my recovery tools on it, > all the /dev entries would be correct, etc ... > > Guess I try it :) > If you succeed, please jot down how you did it for the rest of us! -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 16:12:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hdroam.ssd.loral.com (unknown-44-170.ssd.loral.com [158.184.44.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EDE37BFAA for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan@hdroam.ssd.loral.com) Received: (from hdiwan@localhost) by hdroam.ssd.loral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12265 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hdiwan) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:12:09 -0700 From: Hasan Diwan To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000726161209.A12092@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> Reply-To: hdiwan@pobox.com References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net>; from dbutter@wireless.net on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:20:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Devin: It's a bug in the driver. It broke sometime between July 5 and today. July 5's STABLE seems to work fine. * Devin Butterfield [000726 16:05]: > I'm having this same problem with pcm on a sony vaio Z505SX (has the neomagic > chipset). Attempting to play an mp3 file with mpg123 results in "pcm0 play > interrupt timeout, channel dead" and then /dev/dsp is locked. Attempting to > play short .wav files results in looping of a half second segment of the .wav > file for a long time...then sound stops working. > > I'm running STABLE (RC): > > FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Thu Jul 20 > > on that box. > > Is this a bug in the pcm driver, or is this the result of poorly supported > hardware (specifically the neomagic chipset in the vaio)?? > > Any ideas? > -- > Regards, Devin. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 16:39:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13C437BFDD; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13HalU-0003qC-00; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:39:04 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Kris Kennaway Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: telnet nslookup oddity References: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:39:04 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> 4.1-rc as of yesterday. the surprise is at the end. > Are you sure? This bug was (I thought) fixed some time ago. Are you using > an old telnet binary? not intentionally, but clearly make/install world did not replace it. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 17:20:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0B837BF39 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA78182; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:19:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:19:38 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: noor@comrax.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI LVD(S) card & disk for FreeBSD. Message-ID: <20000726181938.A78114@panzer.kdm.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from noor@comrax.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:39:38PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 23:39:38 +0300, noor@comrax.com wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am looking for a well supported SCSI-II/III LVD(S) card under FreeBSD. > Plus, recommended LVD(S) disks for that card. Adaptec, Symbios/LSI and QLogic boards are well supported. As for disks, I would generally recommend IBM and Seagate, but Seagate has put out a batch of bad firmware recently. (You can work around it by disabling write caching on the disk, but you need a firmware upgrade to fix the problem.) So for disks, I'd recommend IBM Ultrastar disks. > Also, supposing I got the above mentioned hardware and I am looking for a > RAID solution (sync read/write from/to many disks on-the-fly), what would > be your recommendations? (both hardware and software). Well, vinum does software RAID, and comes with FreeBSD. If you want a PCI-based RAID controller, see Mike Smith's web page: http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/RAID/index.html You can also get most any external SCSI-SCSI RAID controller, which should work with any supported SCSI controller. See the -scsi list archives for comments on various external RAID controllers. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 17:21:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF65237BFE1 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:21:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HbQC-0000YK-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:21:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:21:08 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000726202108.C1657@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000726161209.A12092@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000726161209.A12092@hdroam.ssd.loral.com>; from hdiwan@pobox.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 04:12:09PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hasan Diwan probably said: > It's a bug in the driver. It broke sometime between July 5 and > today. July 5's STABLE seems to work fine. > > * Devin Butterfield [000726 16:05]: > > I'm having this same problem with pcm on a sony vaio Z505SX (has > > the neomagic chipset). Attempting to play an mp3 file with mpg123 > > results in "pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead" and then > > /dev/dsp is locked. Attempting to play short .wav files results in > > looping of a half second segment of the .wav file for a long > > time...then sound stops working. > > Is this a bug in the pcm driver, or is this the result of poorly supported > > hardware (specifically the neomagic chipset in the vaio)?? I was getting this with a more recent stable (yesterday) on my Z505HS, until I turned 'pnp os' off in the bios. This is the yamaha audio chipset, however. I'm still getting some problems with the machine - audio stops working after a suspend/restore and I cannot get suspend to disk working at all, but I'm not convinced I created he suspend partition correctly :/ pcmcia seems to work fine with the defaults, but not in polling mode. usb seems to work, although there are errors printed sometimes through suspend/resume (not sure if it works afterwards, though). Had something odd happen when I tried to bring the built in fxp interface up after a suspend resume, using the fxp kernel module; hard hang. I havn't managed to repeat it and I need to recompile a kernel with ddb. More after I do some testing, though. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 17:47:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from postal.linkfast.net (postal.linkfast.net [208.160.105.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F8137BC5A; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:47:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@linkfast.net) Received: by postal.linkfast.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2F6CA9B1D; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:47:20 -0500 From: Matthew Fuller To: Mike Smith Cc: Petr Murmak , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID Message-ID: <20000726194720.C387@linkfast.net> References: <024901bff71a$5b79e9f0$0101a8c0@palitko> <200007261956.MAA39162@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007261956.MAA39162@mass.osd.bsdi.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:56:49PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:56:49PM -0700, a little birdie told me that Mike Smith remarked > > If you want a supported ATA RAID solution, see www.3ware.com. Speaking of ATA RAID, I haven't found a good source of reasonably (or even REMOTELY reasonably) priced SCSI<->IDE RAID controllers, which would be my preferred way of handling the whole mess. 3ware.com doesn't appear to have any, but from the ghastly layout of their site, where every link I can see opens a new window on either a PDF or a Word .doc, I can't tell diddly about 'em. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@linkfast.net Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 17:50:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6871337BF8B for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21198; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:49:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24140; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:49:55 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007270049.KAA24140@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-reply-to: Your message of 26 Jul 2000 23:48:21 +0200. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:49:55 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you're going to start installing packages, rsync is a much more efficient solution than rdist, and rsync-over-ssh works just fine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 17:51:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-42.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB037C034 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA40878; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007270100.SAA40878@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Matthew Fuller Cc: Petr Murmak , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise-66 RAID In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:47:20 CDT." <20000726194720.C387@linkfast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 18:00:41 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Speaking of ATA RAID, I haven't found a good source of reasonably (or > even REMOTELY reasonably) priced SCSI<->IDE RAID controllers, which would > be my preferred way of handling the whole mess. 3ware.com doesn't appear > to have any, but from the ghastly layout of their site, where every link > I can see opens a new window on either a PDF or a Word .doc, I can't tell > diddly about 'em. They don't. I know that BSDi/Telenet was evaluating a small unit (three ATA disks, IIRC) a while back. You might want to talk to them. Dale was the chap doing this, I think. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 19:14:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from subnet.sub.net (subnet.sub.net [212.227.14.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B200937BFD8 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org) Received: from lyxys.ka.sub.org (uucp@localhost) by subnet.sub.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/1.2subnet-linux) with bsmtp id EAA01030; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:14:12 +0200 Received: from localhost (1616 bytes) by lyxys.ka.sub.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:inet_uusmtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:04:56 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Jun-12) Message-Id: From: wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: <20000726172019.A34545@mithrandr.moria.org> from Neil Blakey-Milner at "Jul 26, 0 05:20:19 pm" To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org (Neil Blakey-Milner) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:04:56 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat 2000-07-22 (10:06), Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > In the handbook in > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > > it says: > > [..] > > Clearly, this is not going to work if the user using a release version > > of freebsd and has not loaded all the sources (the instructions > > currently tell him/her to only load the sys portion of the sources). > > Then the user should use the config method. > 'make buildkernel' works without a populated /usr/obj tree, and with > only the /usr/src/sys tree and /usr/src/Makefile and > /usr/src/Makefile.inc. I know because I just tried it. > The only thing that needs to change is the setting of OBJFORMAT_PATH > from ${WORLDTMP}/usr/libexec to ${WORLTMP}/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec. But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the kernel using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got this right i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing /usr/obj to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld first. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 19:44:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CBF37B5F0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23441; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:44:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007270244.TAA23441@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock In-Reply-To: <20000726214401.K24476@speedy.gsinet> from Gerhard Sittig at "Jul 26, 0 09:44:01 pm" To: Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net (Gerhard Sittig) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:44:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Gerhard Sittig wrote: > Returning to the problem: From L*'s ext2fs I know of a method to > fallback to the superblock's copies sprinkled all over the disk > (every 8192 blocks?) when the "first" one is damaged. This info > could at least be used to restore the first one to make mount > work again. Is there some similar mechanism for ffs/ufs? The second one is always at block 32, I believe. So, "fsck -b 32 [filesystem]" should do ya. After that, where they live depends on things like the number of cylinders per group and other tunables that you can frob when you make the filesystem. It's recommended you save the output of the newfs run to have a complete list. However, if you can remember the options you used when you created the filesystem (easy if you used the defaults), a "newfs -N" with the same options will tell you where all the superblocks wound up. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 20:27:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FE237B81F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23756; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:27:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: from Wolfgang Zenker at "Jul 27, 0 04:04:56 am" To: wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:27:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the > kernel using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got > this right i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing > /usr/obj to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld > first. That's how it sounds to me. We've also created a situation where space-limited folks =can't= update just kernel sources. The installation process offers a configuration with binaries for everything and sources for the kernel (so you can build a custom one, I suppose). If the assembler language syntax changes like it just did, for example, you'll have to choose between fetching the whole thing, or not fixing kernel bugs. Or be pretty smart about the innards of the build process and the filesystem layout--exactly the skills the person who installed kernel sources only 'cause he wanted to make a customized kernel won't have. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 20:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown3-3-124.adsl.one.net [216.23.29.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413B337B81F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13368; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:47:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:47:00 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx Message-ID: <20000726234700.A13307@cokane.yi.org> References: <397F1CE9.1CC0C1E2@es.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@mail.yourfit.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 02:39:27PM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doubtful, I'd say some of the serious graphics work may be done on these cards, though I doubt the Voodoo5's use for this type of stuff. Both of these cards are made for gaming. I think that cards like the GLINT cards will still rule for some time in that arena. Chris BeHanna had the audacity to say: > > The new ATI Radeon must not be overlooked, nor should the > Voodoo5. Many of the people who are doing the most serious graphics > work will be using one of those two cards. > > -- > Chris BeHanna > Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) > behanna@zbzoom.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Coleman Kane President, UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 20:46: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5410D37B81F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000727034558.IJYB23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:45:58 -0700 Message-ID: <397FB075.D996B5F3@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:45:57 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wolfgang Zenker Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > > But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the kernel > using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got this right > i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing /usr/obj > to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld first. > If depends if you are using FreeBSD stable or FreeBSD release. If you are using FreeBSD stable, of course you are correct. If you are using FreeBSD release, you will be using buildkernel only if you are customizing a new kernel. So there would be no need to rebuild the binaries. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 20:49:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A573C37BFFC for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:49:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 14029819; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:48:37 -0400 From: David Uhring To: "Chad R. Larson" , wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:49:40 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.50] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> In-Reply-To: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072622494001.00590@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > > But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the > > kernel using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got > > this right i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing > > /usr/obj to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld > > first. > > That's how it sounds to me. > > We've also created a situation where space-limited folks =can't= > update just kernel sources. > > The installation process offers a configuration with binaries for > everything and sources for the kernel (so you can build a custom > one, I suppose). > > If the assembler language syntax changes like it just did, for example, > you'll have to choose between fetching the whole thing, or not fixing > kernel bugs. > > Or be pretty smart about the innards of the build process and the > filesystem layout--exactly the skills the person who installed kernel > sources only 'cause he wanted to make a customized kernel won't have. > > -crl Worse than that, the GENERIC kernel provided no support for sound. And someone is forgetting here that in a release version, the new tools will already be installed where they should be in the file tree. Now, the procedure required in stable during the MFC made perfect sense. But, let's face the fact that in a release distribution, there won't even be anything in /usr/obj. Will the previous method of configuring and building a modified kernel continue to work for people who buy or download the release version? Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 21: 5:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mike.dhis.org (hiper1-d164.stk.cwnet.com [209.142.56.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5E837C00A; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmuir@es.co.nz) Received: from es.co.nz (ogre.lan [192.168.100.1]) by mike.dhis.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F8D7; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <397FB505.1E1F4324@es.co.nz> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:05:25 -0700 From: Mike Muir Reply-To: mmuir@es.co.nz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Francesco Casadei , freebsd-stable mailing list Subject: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Francesco Casadei wrote: > > > Today I cvsuped and rebuilt everything. After reboot, I started > > xmms-1.2.2 as usual to play mp3 files and I heard sound with clicks > > (like the sound of an old record). > > It's a known problem - I've reported it to Cameron Grant and he'll look at > it when he gets time. It doesn't happen all the time for me, but when it > does I can't find a reliable way to fix it. Recording on the SB16 in > 16-bit mode is also broken. Just to add to the melee, I have the same problem on this SB LIVE -- REF: my posting to stable@ subject: "pci error messages when using SB Live after update to 4.1-RC" Do you guys get the error messages too? -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 21: 8:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4B537C00E for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA47216 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:08:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: <00072622494001.00590@dave.uhring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, David Uhring wrote: > Worse than that, the GENERIC kernel provided no support for sound. And > someone is forgetting here that in a release version, the new tools will > already be installed where they should be in the file tree. Now, the > procedure required in stable during the MFC made perfect sense. But, let's > face the fact that in a release distribution, there won't even be anything in > /usr/obj. Will the previous method of configuring and building a modified > kernel continue to work for people who buy or download the release version? No, no. You're all forgetting that on a system where the source, libraries, and building tools never change, it will always build consistently. It only comes into play when upgrading, but is merely one other thing to do differently while doing so. -- Bob "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes" - The Amityville Horror III To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22: 8:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D786B37B70A; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (cshumway@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61285; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pike.osd.bsdi.com: cshumway owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Shumway X-Sender: cshumway@pike.osd.bsdi.com To: Chris BeHanna Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > Can I just burn a CD with boot.flp as the boot image and the > > filesystem from my existing machine and expect it to work ? > > Hmm...I don't know if there's something else that has to be done > to make a CD bootable. Isn't there a target somewhere for making the > ISO images? No, you need to specify the boot image in your cdrom image pre-master software. With mkhybrid, which is what I use, you give it the boot image relitive to the root of the cdrom with the -b command line option. For example: #!/bin/sh echo "Creating image file for disc 1..." mkhybrid -a -r -v -T -V "FreeBSD" -b floppies/boot.flp -c boot.catalog \ -o /a/projects/bsd/bsd1.iso /a/projects/bsd/disc1 Both the -b and -c swithes are necessary to make a bootable cdrom. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22: 8:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D786B37B70A; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (cshumway@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61285; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pike.osd.bsdi.com: cshumway owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Shumway X-Sender: cshumway@pike.osd.bsdi.com To: Chris BeHanna Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixit media (Re: URGENT: bad superblock) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > Can I just burn a CD with boot.flp as the boot image and the > > filesystem from my existing machine and expect it to work ? > > Hmm...I don't know if there's something else that has to be done > to make a CD bootable. Isn't there a target somewhere for making the > ISO images? No, you need to specify the boot image in your cdrom image pre-master software. With mkhybrid, which is what I use, you give it the boot image relitive to the root of the cdrom with the -b command line option. For example: #!/bin/sh echo "Creating image file for disc 1..." mkhybrid -a -r -v -T -V "FreeBSD" -b floppies/boot.flp -c boot.catalog \ -o /a/projects/bsd/bsd1.iso /a/projects/bsd/disc1 Both the -b and -c swithes are necessary to make a bootable cdrom. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22:19:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D804537BD18 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (cshumway@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA61451; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pike.osd.bsdi.com: cshumway owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Shumway X-Sender: cshumway@pike.osd.bsdi.com To: Devin Butterfield Cc: hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems In-Reply-To: <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Devin Butterfield wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Hasan Diwan wrote: > > This appears to be a race condition. It seems that something > > arbitrarily locks /dev/dsp (my soundcard) at random intervals and > > lsof can't figure out what it is. Brian Fumerola suggested a patch that > > decreased the occurence, but it didn't eliminate it. > > Another problem is that RealPlayer7 kills X when I load it. No > > error is given. > > We are still experiencing the same problem as outlined earlier > > this month with the ep driver resetting a 3com PnP 3c509TPO card's MAC > > address to '00:00:00:00:00:00', and renders it unusable. > > > > I'm having this same problem with pcm on a sony vaio Z505SX (has the neomagic > chipset). Attempting to play an mp3 file with mpg123 results in "pcm0 play > interrupt timeout, channel dead" and then /dev/dsp is locked. Attempting to > play short .wav files results in looping of a half second segment of the .wav > file for a long time...then sound stops working. > > I'm running STABLE (RC): > > FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Thu Jul 20 > > on that box. > > Is this a bug in the pcm driver, or is this the result of poorly supported > hardware (specifically the neomagic chipset in the vaio)?? > > Any ideas? Apply this patch to src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c, it seems to fix it on my Sony Viao Z505SX. (Credit goes to Bill Fumerola) --- channel.c.orig Tue Jun 20 16:42:08 2000 +++ channel.c Tue Jul 25 12:10:11 2000 @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; b->underflow = 0; } else { - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ + chn_dmaupdate(c); } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22:23:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from KIWI-Computer.com (kiwi-computer.com [63.224.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F1437B72F for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@KIWI-Computer.com) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by KIWI-Computer.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA39974; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:22:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: FreeBSD Message-Id: <200007270522.AAA39974@KIWI-Computer.com> Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock In-Reply-To: <200007270244.TAA23441@freeway.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at "Jul 26, 2000 07:44:10 pm" To: chad@DCFinc.com Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:22:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Gerhard Sittig , stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Returning to the problem: From L*'s ext2fs I know of a method to > > fallback to the superblock's copies sprinkled all over the disk > > (every 8192 blocks?) when the "first" one is damaged. This info > > could at least be used to restore the first one to make mount > > work again. Is there some similar mechanism for ffs/ufs? > > The second one is always at block 32, I believe. > > So, "fsck -b 32 [filesystem]" should do ya. That is correct. I just spent a few hours diving into FFS and I do believe that block 32 (assuming you use 512-byte device "sectors" and that your FS uses 1024-byte fragment "blocks") is the second super block. According to my analysis, the primary super block is always 8192 bytes from the start of the filesystem, which would make it block #16. But chances are if your primary was trashed because of hardware failure, that your secondary is trashed also. Manually, you can find a superblock by scanning certain sectors for the super block magic number (which is little-endian 0x011954, located at byte offset 0x55C into the super block). You wouldn't have to scan every sector, as super blocks usually are FS block #16 into each cylinder group. Cylinder groups always fall on cylinder boundaries; I recommend checking device sector #s: 65536n + 32, that is 65568, 131104, etc. Or at worst, 1024n + 32... By default newfs(1) creates a new cylinder group every 16 cylinders, so you could write up a quick script to grab the disklabel & search for super-blocks. Or scan every sector... ;) Reading through fsck(1)'s code, it looks like fsck tries its best to find a usable super-block, so that may be enough for you. -- Rick C. Petty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22:52:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (elmls01.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA09737B91A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rlyons@mediaone.net) Received: from mediaone.net (rm01-24-131-190-142.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.190.142]) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA17146; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:56:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <397FCD9E.154FE510@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:50:22 -0500 From: Roy Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Nelson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux compatability page fault... References: <397F0648.A4D1A1D9@corp.pocket.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well Brian, I had the same damned problem - it turned out that the loader was loading the old kernel and not the new! What I did was I made a fresh kernel with a new name and when the prompt came up to hit any other key or press enter, I pressed another key, did an unload (which unloaded LIONKERNEL) and did a load LYONSDEN then a simple 'boot'. I think you need to look at your loader.conf to see which kernel is being loaded :-). Happy fun! Roy R. Lyons Brian Nelson wrote: > I recently did a makeworld/installworld and suddenly linux > compatability comes up with a page fault. Even linprocfs doesn't work > any more. I even removed /usr/src/* and re-cvsup'd. > > Any suggestions? > > -Brian > > -- > Brian Nelson/Web Developer/Pocket.com, Inc/brian.nelson@corp.pocket.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > The computer revolution is over. The computers won. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22:53:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E864437C019 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@rod.darktech.org) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip106.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.106]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12879; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6R5r2d00771; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:53:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eogren) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:53:02 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Wolfgang Zenker , nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000727015302.C698@earthlink.net> References: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:27:31PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This has always been the case, hasn't it? Although the modules + kernel out of sync problem should've been dealt with by the new make knobs, we still don't support people just upgrading their kernel without upgrading their userland. Or am I wrong? Eric On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:27:31PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > We've also created a situation where space-limited folks =can't= > update just kernel sources. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 22:59:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A496137C034 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@rod.darktech.org) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip106.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.106]) by emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14360; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6R5weD00788; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:58:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eogren) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:58:40 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: Chris BeHanna Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI errors: Invalidating pack Message-ID: <20000727015840.D698@earthlink.net> References: <200007260324.UAA19123@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@mail.yourfit.com on Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 11:56:13PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 11:56:13PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > in the documentation that gets locally installed from the 4.0-RELEASE > CD, that information is missing from the online handbook. No it's not, it just moved. Take a look at appendix A.3. Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 23:49:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA1637B5D3 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4A4761C6B; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:49:37 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Devin Butterfield Cc: hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net>; from dbutter@wireless.net on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:20:27PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:20:27PM -0700, Devin Butterfield wrote: > I'm having this same problem with pcm on a sony vaio Z505SX (has the neomagic > chipset). Attempting to play an mp3 file with mpg123 results in "pcm0 play > interrupt timeout, channel dead" and then /dev/dsp is locked. Attempting to > play short .wav files results in looping of a half second segment of the .wav > file for a long time...then sound stops working. > > I'm running STABLE (RC): > > FreeBSD dbm.wireless.net 4.1-RC FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Thu Jul 20 > > on that box. > > Is this a bug in the pcm driver, or is this the result of poorly supported > hardware (specifically the neomagic chipset in the vaio)?? Index: channel.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 channel.c --- channel.c 2000/06/20 23:42:08 1.32 +++ channel.c 2000/07/22 17:36:34 @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; b->underflow = 0; } else { - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ + chn_dmaupdate(c); } } -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 26 23:55: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D458C37B576 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 11500 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2000 06:55:02 -0000 Received: from chagall.nt.tuwien.ac.at (HELO gmx.net) (128.131.67.155) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2000 06:55:02 -0000 Message-ID: <397FF8BE.D6C66133@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:54:22 +0200 From: Andreas Ntaflos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw/natd, problems with 4.1 RC? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yo, I am having problems in getting ipfw with natd to work on this my fbsd 4.1 RC machine. according to the natd manpage, its just about 4 lines that are needed to run natd and 'masq' a subnet or a single other machine from the internet. i got two interfaces, one xl0 which is connected to the internet and one ed0 which is connected to my 'subnet' (which consists of a single win98 machine), and the correct cammands should be: # natd -n xl0 # ipfw -f flush # ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl0 # ipfw add pass all from any to any just 5 days ago, I entered these and it just worked fine. the 'masqed' pc could connect to the internet. now, i cvsupped 2 days ago or so, and did exactly the same thing, but it just wont connect the other pc to the internet. i've compiled the kernel with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT (I tried PFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT too, but it didnt matter wheather I had this option in or not). so, please, does anybody know why this doesnt work? maybe I am missing something here? did i forget something? help is welcome regards Andreas Ntaflos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 0: 4:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BF9937BAC8 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Jul 2000 08:04:38 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:04:37 +0100 From: David Malone To: Gregory Bond Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , Vivek Khera , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist and pam Message-ID: <20000727080437.A5048@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200007270049.KAA24140@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <200007270049.KAA24140@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:49:55AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:49:55AM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: > If you're going to start installing packages, rsync is a much more efficient > solution than rdist, and rsync-over-ssh works just fine. We're working on some patches which makes rdist much faster over ssh (about four times faster for our local use). Rsync is fine for some stuff, but it isn't really a replacement for rdist. Some of the more recent versions of rsync also seem to have problems with some versions of ssh too. (We were going to try to write a rdist/rsync cross but found another way around the problem). David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 0:15:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A5837C102; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by picalon.gun.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19459; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:15:20 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27405; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:01:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:01:13 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup Message-ID: <20000727090113.A27332@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:46:42PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RC SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:46:42PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Francesco Casadei wrote: > > Today I cvsuped and rebuilt everything. After reboot, I started > > xmms-1.2.2 as usual to play mp3 files and I heard sound with clicks > > (like the sound of an old record). > > It's a known problem - I've reported it to Cameron Grant and he'll look at > it when he gets time. It doesn't happen all the time for me, but when it > does I can't find a reliable way to fix it. Recording on the SB16 in > 16-bit mode is also broken. Same for me with my Soundblaster Live. And I was so glad, that sound worked better after switching from -current to -STABLE ;-) But the good news is, that I really don't have to buy another soundcard, if even Soundblaster 16 is a bit broken now ;-)) Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 0:19:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc1.sfba.home.com (mail2.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF0C37BE69 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:19:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail2.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000727071941.BXKJ6679.mail2.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:19:41 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id AAA59377; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:19:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:19:41 -0700 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw/natd, problems with 4.1 RC? Message-ID: <20000727001941.N351@beastie.localdomain> Reply-To: boshea@ricochet.net Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Ntaflos , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <397FF8BE.D6C66133@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <397FF8BE.D6C66133@gmx.net>; from Andreas Ntaflos on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:54:22AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:54:22AM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > Yo, I am having problems in getting ipfw with natd to work on this my > fbsd 4.1 RC machine. according to the natd manpage, its just about 4 > lines that are needed to run natd and 'masq' a subnet or a single other > machine from the internet. i got two interfaces, one xl0 which is > connected to the internet and one ed0 which is connected to my 'subnet' > (which consists of a single win98 machine), and the correct cammands > should be: > > # natd -n xl0 > # ipfw -f flush > # ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl0 > # ipfw add pass all from any to any Make sure you have set gateway_enable="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf file on the gateway machine. > > just 5 days ago, I entered these and it just worked fine. the 'masqed' > pc could connect to the internet. > now, i cvsupped 2 days ago or so, and did exactly the same thing, but it > just wont connect the other pc to the internet. > i've compiled the kernel with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT (I tried > PFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT too, but it didnt matter wheather I had this > option in or not). > > so, please, does anybody know why this doesnt work? maybe I am missing > something here? did i forget something? > help is welcome > > regards > Andreas Ntaflos > -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 0:37:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24AB237C087 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 4354 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2000 07:37:06 -0000 Received: from chagall.nt.tuwien.ac.at (HELO gmx.net) (128.131.67.155) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2000 07:37:06 -0000 Message-ID: <39800299.B3CAD2CF@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:36:26 +0200 From: Andreas Ntaflos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: boshea@ricochet.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw/natd, problems with 4.1 RC? References: <397FF8BE.D6C66133@gmx.net> <20000727001941.N351@beastie.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thanks, but i have gateway_enable="YES" set. i also have the sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 command set in rc.conf, but that doesnt seem to impress my machine at all. maybe this is a problem with the current version of 4.1? thanks and regards Andreas Ntaflos Brian O'Shea wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:54:22AM +0200, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > > Yo, I am having problems in getting ipfw with natd to work on this my > > fbsd 4.1 RC machine. according to the natd manpage, its just about 4 > > lines that are needed to run natd and 'masq' a subnet or a single other > > machine from the internet. i got two interfaces, one xl0 which is > > connected to the internet and one ed0 which is connected to my 'subnet' > > (which consists of a single win98 machine), and the correct cammands > > should be: > > > > # natd -n xl0 > > # ipfw -f flush > > # ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via xl0 > > # ipfw add pass all from any to any > > Make sure you have set > > gateway_enable="YES" > > in the /etc/rc.conf file on the gateway machine. > > > > > just 5 days ago, I entered these and it just worked fine. the 'masqed' > > pc could connect to the internet. > > now, i cvsupped 2 days ago or so, and did exactly the same thing, but it > > just wont connect the other pc to the internet. > > i've compiled the kernel with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT (I tried > > PFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT too, but it didnt matter wheather I had this > > option in or not). > > > > so, please, does anybody know why this doesnt work? maybe I am missing > > something here? did i forget something? > > help is welcome > > > > regards > > Andreas Ntaflos > > > > -- > Brian O'Shea > boshea@ricochet.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 0:39:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B63137C065 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Received: from db.wireless.net (db.wireless.net [209.75.70.101]) by wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28411; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbm.wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA50762; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) From: Devin Butterfield To: Bill Fumerola Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 00:36:54 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> In-Reply-To: <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Index: channel.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v > retrieving revision 1.32 > diff -u -r1.32 channel.c > --- channel.c 2000/06/20 23:42:08 1.32 > +++ channel.c 2000/07/22 17:36:34 > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; > b->underflow = 0; > } else { > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ > + chn_dmaupdate(c); > } > } > Very cool. Thanks Bill (and everyone else who replied), this patch works great! Sound is working well now on my Sony Vaio. :) -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 1: 8: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3630E37C082 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24395; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:07:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200007270807.BAA24395@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: from Bob K at "Jul 27, 0 00:08:35 am" To: melange@yip.org (Bob K) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:07:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Bob K wrote: > No, no. You're all forgetting that on a system where the source, > libraries, and building tools never change, it will always build > consistently. It only comes into play when upgrading, but is merely one > other thing to do differently while doing so. But I was discussing the case of the folks that want to build a custom kernel, and catch bug fixes to the kernel sources without committing the disk space and effort to tracking the -STABLE tree. Most of the time they will be ok. But in some cases, they will be forced to choose between trying to SUP and build the whole source tree, or forgo the kernel bug fixes. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 2: 0:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6637937B92C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13HjX5-000I8J-0A; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:00:48 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA94007; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:04:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:01:38 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Muir Cc: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: agp and 3dfx In-Reply-To: <397F5F46.C54E2E6A@es.co.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Mike Muir wrote: > Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > We will need more than the basic X-server to use any new graphics board, as > > their main selling point is 3D, and the basic drivers of X are way behind. > > > > The main issue is in establishing FreeBSD as a "credible" platform > > (how many users of FreeBSD want to pay for a 3D-optimized A|W application ?) > > Quite the opposite -- it won't be users of FreeBSD who will be buying a > $50,000+ software package -- It is those Animators whom should choose to > use FreeBSD! I'm planning to run the Linux version of Maya on FreeBSD as soon as I can get a copy. It isn't that expensive any more - the PC version is about $10,000-$12,000 per seat but its probably the best modelling package for soft skinned characters around. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8348 3944 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 2: 8:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558B937B92C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3F7EA847; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:08:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92D85437; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:08:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:08:28 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock In-Reply-To: <200007270522.AAA39974@KIWI-Computer.com> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, FreeBSD wrote: > cylinders, so you could write up a quick script to grab the disklabel & > search for super-blocks. Or scan every sector... ;) There are tools for this in ports...gpart I think. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 2:14: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skaarup.org (skaarup.org [130.228.230.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F082037C0A1 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 02:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Received: from localhost (skaarup@localhost) by skaarup.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA49822; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:09:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rasmus@gal.dk) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:09:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Rasmus Skaarup X-Sender: skaarup@skaarup.org To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Warner Losh , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world fail (at) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <397F0ABA.92CDC2FC@cup.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > > > > I did a fresh cvsup in a empty /usr/src directory, and got the exact same > > error: > > I did not follow this thread, but I assume you also had an empty > /usr/obj? No. I removed the obj directory, and tried again and now it's working. I figured that the exsting obj-files would be replaced, but apparently not. > > ** snip snip ** > > ===> usr.bin/apply > > rm -f apply apply.o apply.1.gz apply.1.cat.gz > > rm -f .depend /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GPATH /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GRTAGS > > /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GSYMS /usr/src/usr.bin/apply/GTAGS > > ===> usr.bin/at > > ".depend", line 3: Need an operator > > ".depend", line 4: Need an operator > > ".depend", line 5: Need an operator > > ".depend", line 6: Need an operator > > ".depend", line 7: Need an operator > > ".depend", line 10: Need an operator > > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > > *** Error code 1 > > Can you mail what's on these lines? Somehow a lot of the .depend files (not only at, also banner.. etc) had binary content (!?). Well, it's working now. Sorry for the inconvience. Best regards Rasmus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 3:24:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EBD37B83D; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 03:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA03104; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 03:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: committers@freebsd.org Subject: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 03:24:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3101.964693469@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may now go back to whacking on the RELENG_4 branch with the usual degree of -stable discretion. Good release, guys. Next stop is 4.2-RELEASE in mid-November 2000! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 3:51:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E3A37B62C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 03:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.causticlabs.com (oca-c1s2-34.mfi.net [209.26.94.81]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0019B1C; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.causticlabs.com To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: boshea@ricochet.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw/natd, problems with 4.1 RC? In-Reply-To: <39800299.B3CAD2CF@gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > thanks, but i have gateway_enable="YES" set. > i also have the sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 command set in rc.conf, > but that doesnt seem to impress my machine at all. > > maybe this is a problem with the current version of 4.1? > Generically speaking, probably not. I have a 4.1-STABLE box nat'ing just fine. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 4:26:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6634237B552 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith.mackay@home.com) Received: from odin ([24.68.24.241]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000727112601.EEYV10815.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@odin> for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:26:01 -0700 From: "Keith Mackay" To: Subject: make buildworld after a recent cvsup Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:27:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bff7bd$b0f689d0$f1184418@asgard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently, I cvsup'd to what I assume is 4.1-RELEASE and got the following error on a make buildworld: btxld -v -E 0x1000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin kernel: ver=1.01 size=750 load=9000 entry=9010 map=16M pgctl=1:1 client: fmt=bin size=13dc text=0 data=0 bss=0 entry=0 output: fmt=bin size=1d2c text=200 data=1b2c org=0 entry=0 212 bytes available dd if=boot2.ld of=boot2 obs=7680 conv=osync 2>/dev/null *** Error code 1 I think I've narrowed the error down.. if I run just the last line, 'dd if=boot2.ld of=boot2 obs=7680 conv=osync 2', it returns an error message of 'dd: osync: invalid conversion' I tried cvsup'ing again this morning and doing a make buildworld, and it fails at the same spot. I haven't read anything in this mailinglist about it, anyone have any suggestions? Regards, Keith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 5: 0: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C1337B7B1; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA91179; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:00:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com Subject: Re: 4.1-RELEASE will be tagged and done tonite, starting at 18:00 PDTT In-Reply-To: <200007261604.JAA20387@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, John Polstra wrote: > For one thing, US crypto policy has been dictated 100% by politics > for at least the past 10 years. It could easily be reversed yet > again. (I don't think it will be reversed, but it is certainly a real > possibility.) I would hate to see us throw out all the machinery we > use to keep the crypto code separable, only to have to rebuild it > again some time in the future. Hmm, that's a good point (as well as for other countries with anti-crypto laws). I'm changing my vote to leaving crypto a separate distribution but selecting it by default in sysinstall :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 5:15:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EB437B80C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 05:15:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13HmZX-0009bz-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:15:31 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA58043; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:06:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:06:43 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: FreeBSD , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: URGENT: bad superblock Message-ID: <20000727130643.B57811@freebie.demon.nl> Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org References: <200007270522.AAA39974@KIWI-Computer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@ugh.net.au on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 07:08:28PM +1000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 07:08:28PM +1000, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, FreeBSD wrote: > > > cylinders, so you could write up a quick script to grab the disklabel & > > search for super-blocks. Or scan every sector... ;) > > There are tools for this in ports...gpart I think. I think /usr/ports/sysutils/ffsrecov is another one. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 6: 6:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flux.ptc.spbu.ru (flux.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F0937B5AC for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe@snark.ptc.spbu.ru) Received: from snark.ptc.spbu.ru (snark.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.131]) by flux.ptc.spbu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3/cf-1.0.rbl) with ESMTP id RAA62457 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:06:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from uwe@localhost) by snark.ptc.spbu.ru (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA08451 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:06:03 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:06:02 +0400 From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup Message-ID: <20000727170602.A8445@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <397FB505.1E1F4324@es.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.3i In-Reply-To: <397FB505.1E1F4324@es.co.nz>; from "Mike Muir" on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 21:05:25 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 21:05:25 -0700, Mike Muir wrote: > Just to add to the melee, I have the same problem on this SB LIVE -- > REF: my posting to stable@ subject: "pci error messages when using SB > Live after update to 4.1-RC" > Do you guys get the error messages too? I've got 4.1-RC2 on my home machine installed from ISO image and SB Live! works like a charm. SY, Uwe -- uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 6: 7:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E8337B6E0 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA15846; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:06:44 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10433; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:02:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007271302.JAA10433@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems To: Devin Butterfield Cc: Bill Fumerola , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27 Jul, Devin Butterfield wrote: = = > Index: channel.c = > =================================================================== = > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v = > retrieving revision 1.32 = > diff -u -r1.32 channel.c = > --- channel.c 2000/06/20 23:42:08 1.32 = > +++ channel.c 2000/07/22 17:36:34 = > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ = > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; = > b->underflow = 0; = > } else { = > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ = > + chn_dmaupdate(c); = > } = > } = > = = Very cool. Thanks Bill (and everyone else who replied), this patch = works great! Sound is working well now on my Sony Vaio. :) Congratulations! Now, could someone explain why is it a bad idea to commit this change -- evidently it was already there but got commented out? The new release (which, apparently, does not have this) will still mal-function for many people. Are we going to be circulating this patches like Linux world does? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 6:28:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B010A37B51D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@rod.darktech.org) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip130.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.130]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25152 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6RDS4t55203 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eogren) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:04 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000727092804.A49300@earthlink.net> References: <200007270807.BAA24395@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200007270807.BAA24395@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:07:59AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Although this discussion is mostly moot, since the handbook has already been changed to tell people who haven't updated their source to use config and make to build the kernel, another problem with advocating [build|install]kernel is that it requires users to install src-base, since that's where the targets are defined. Since [AFAIK] the "Kernel Developer" distribution defined in sysinstall doesn't contain src-base, not to mention that users will probably find it counterintuitive that downloading the "kernel sources" (ie src-sys) is not sufficient to build the kernel. Again, I'm talking about the people who download 4.1 and have no intention of ever tracking -STABLE, not the people who do track the branch. Just something to think about for 4.2 at least. Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 6:39:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1045737BBE7 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01032 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:39:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39803B9E.ACD73AAC@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:39:42 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Install problem with RC-3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wish I was able to try/find this last week, but could try until last night. I download and build the 4.1 RC-3 floppies to install RC-3 on my Sony Vaio laptop using the USB Linksys adapter, it is found and does work. Try #1 Search faild to find an IPv6 RA, probably my fault. Then did NOT find my DHCP server, not my fault. Try #2 Make sure rtadvd is running on the server, pre KAME merge. Might still be misconfigured. Search faild to find an IPv6 RA, probably my fault. Then did NOT find my DHCP server, not my fault. Try #3 Just say NO to IPv6. Then did NOT find my DHCP server, not my fault. All times manual IPv4 config worked fine and after install DHCP worked. And rtsol did configure the adapter for IPv6. I am guessing this is an USB/ether problem. Jim -- Studies show that 1 out of every 4 Americans suffer some form of mental illness. So look at your three best friends, if they are okay it is YOU! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 7:24: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5FA37B8FC for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52DAE8D3 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08298; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:23:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14720.17918.627652.285537@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:23:58 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: updating ports after upgrade (was Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag?) In-Reply-To: <397F6235.C68E3DD6@urx.com> References: <677.964647898@localhost> <397F6235.C68E3DD6@urx.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KS" == Kent Stewart writes: KS> The port people seemed to be keeping up in most cases but I was KS> wondering if there was a policy on rebuilding your ports on new KS> releases or simply letting well enough alone until you find something KS> that is broken. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my general motto WRT computers. As mentioned earlier, about the only thing that needs to get updated is lsof since it is tied to the OS version identifier string. It might still work but will complain. Other than that, if something is broken or you need a new feature from a newer version, then that's a reason to upgrade it. Otherwise why waste the time? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 7:38: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tower.portal2.com (tower.portal2.com [202.77.223.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C629637BBEC for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:37:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ymg@graffiti.net) Received: (qmail 29166 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jul 2000 14:36:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20000727143650.29162.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "ym g" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:36:50 +0800 Subject: Which applications are using kqueue ? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I read about FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE today and would like to congratulate all involved in this release I read on appwatch.com that 4.1 has some kernel primitive called kqueue which can replace poll/select. Are there any applications which use this ? Are there plans for any apps like thin/fast [maybe in kernel] webserver which uses kqueue Thanks in advance -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 7:51:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from srv01.el.com.br (srv01.el.com.br [200.241.214.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206B237B5C9; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g-paiva@el.com.br) Received: from el.com.br (dialup.intranet.el [192.168.10.10]) by srv01.el.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13947; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:51:32 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from g-paiva@el.com.br) Message-ID: <39804D5D.B6634FB0@el.com.br> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:55:25 -0300 From: Gilson de Paiva Reply-To: npd@el.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Auth service sequencial probe. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Does anybody know any exploit or weakness of FreeBSD's auth service? This is ( a part of ) log message generated by a ipfw rule denying any setup connection to my external ip ( ipfw add deny log logamount 500 tcp from any to any in via ${oif} setup ). The interesting fact is that no other service was probed, meaning that this was the service trying to be contacted, not a nmap or other scan. [...] ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 [ that keeps for a while ...] Any ideas? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gilson de Paiva E&L Producoes de Software mailto:npd@el.com.br Domingos Martins - ES http://www.el.com.br/ Brazil http://www.openbsd.com.br/ Projeto OpenBSD BR =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 8: 5:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4460237B61E for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03013 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:05:47 -0700 Message-ID: <39804FCB.BEC962D7@urx.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:05:47 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: updating ports after upgrade (was Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag?) References: <677.964647898@localhost> <397F6235.C68E3DD6@urx.com> <14720.17918.627652.285537@onceler.kcilink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera wrote: > > >>>>> "KS" == Kent Stewart writes: > > KS> The port people seemed to be keeping up in most cases but I was > KS> wondering if there was a policy on rebuilding your ports on new > KS> releases or simply letting well enough alone until you find something > KS> that is broken. > > If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my general motto WRT computers. As > mentioned earlier, about the only thing that needs to get updated is > lsof since it is tied to the OS version identifier string. It might > still work but will complain. Other than that, if something is broken > or you need a new feature from a newer version, then that's a reason > to upgrade it. Otherwise why waste the time? I have a tendancy to follow that policy. There are some areas such as graphics and others that are always improving. I've found over the years that it is better to keep uptodate with in a window of what is current. This is especially true if your hardware is starting to get a little out of date because the people will be programming for the new stuff and forget about the old. If you wait too long, you can be totally cut off. FWIW, I tried to update lsof and was successfull on 2 machines but the build died on the 3rd machine with ===> Building for lsof-4.50 (cd lib; make DEBUG="-O" CFGF="-pipe -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS=1 -DHASFDLINK - DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DHASIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR=\"4.1-STABLE\"") cc -pipe -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS=1 -DHASFDLINK -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DHA SIPv6 -DLSOF_VSTR="4.1-STABLE" -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sys -O -c ckkv.c In file included from ../dlsof.h:110, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/ufs/mfs/mfsnode.h:49: field `buf_queue' has incomplete type In file included from ../dlsof.h:121, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:207: syntax error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:218: syntax error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' In file included from ../dlsof.h:195, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:180: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 \ The Makefile was looking for a 4.51 file that it can't find but is satisfied with the 4.50 file. Kent > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 > GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 8: 8:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859D937BA8D; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA93230; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:08:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:08:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <3101.964693469@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > You may now go back to whacking on the RELENG_4 branch with the usual > degree of -stable discretion. Good release, guys. Next stop is > 4.2-RELEASE in mid-November 2000! And post-RSA Patent :-). Time to integrate the crypto code into the base distribution (src-base), I guess. Robert N M Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 8:26:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mdanderson.org (mail.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.87.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FD937B8A6 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fosburgh@flash.net) Received: from jefnt (jef-nt.mdacc.tmc.edu [143.111.64.202]) by mail.mdanderson.org (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA06910 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00ab01bff7de$f2e94f00$ca406f8f@mdacc.tmc.edu> From: "Jonathan Fosburgh" To: Subject: Problems building recent -stable Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:25:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have tried, twice, to build recent -stable, including sources CVSup'd last night. Both times have failed somewhere in libperl. I have read UPDATING and can't find anything relevent. I also do not remember seeing anything recently in this mailling list. Is there a known problem I have missed or is it more likely to be a local problem. It is liable to be this weekend before I can provide more information (such as a log.) Jonathan Fosburgh Open Systems Communications and Computer Services UT MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston, TX 77030 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 8:34:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B51A37BB9A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13HpfZ-000CmR-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:33:57 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:33:57 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: Wolfgang Zenker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000727173356.A49050@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:27:31PM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-07-26 (20:27), Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > > But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the > > kernel using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got > > this right i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing > > /usr/obj to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld > > first. > > That's how it sounds to me. That's wrong. 'make buildkernel' should DTRT in all situations. Maybe it doesn't yet, but it should. > We've also created a situation where space-limited folks =can't= > update just kernel sources. As I said originally, one doesn't need a populated /usr/obj to do a 'make buildkernel', with only one minor exception. Also note we officially "don't support" out-of-sync kernel and userland, but we do allow people to shoot themselves in the foot. > Or be pretty smart about the innards of the build process and the > filesystem layout--exactly the skills the person who installed kernel > sources only 'cause he wanted to make a customized kernel won't have. That's why 'make buildkernel' should always work. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 8:40:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5C937C0AD for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 08:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA54521 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:40:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: <200007270807.BAA24395@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Bob K wrote: > > No, no. You're all forgetting that on a system where the source, > > libraries, and building tools never change, it will always build > > consistently. It only comes into play when upgrading, but is merely one > > other thing to do differently while doing so. > > But I was discussing the case of the folks that want to build a > custom kernel, and catch bug fixes to the kernel sources without > committing the disk space and effort to tracking the -STABLE tree. > > Most of the time they will be ok. But in some cases, they will be > forced to choose between trying to SUP and build the whole source > tree, or forgo the kernel bug fixes. How is this different from how things were before the buildkernel target existed? -- Bob "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes" - The Amityville Horror III To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9: 7: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from distortion.dk (distortion.dk [195.249.147.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CCD37B8D7 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@seeberg.dk) Received: from sos (userhost.mdes.dk [130.228.127.200]) by distortion.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA09359 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:15:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from morten@seeberg.dk) Message-ID: <039a01bff7ed$3b83b3a0$deff58c1@sos> From: "Morten Seeberg" To: Subject: 4.1 Release Tag Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:08:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ehh, did I miss something? First of all the release tag is 3 digits 4_1_0, I thought this stopped with 2.x.x? And I also thought that there was a code-freeze of 30 days on both major and minor releases? is this wrong? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\/\orten $eeberg, Systems Consultant @ Merkantildata - Enterprise Solutions #echo 'System Administrators suck :)' > /dev/console To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9: 9:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx.nkm.lt (mx.nkm.lt [193.219.211.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E010937B52F for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from midom@dammit.lt) Received: (qmail 19345 invoked by uid 1073); 27 Jul 2000 16:09:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Jul 2000 16:09:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:09:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Domas Mituzas X-Sender: midom@mx.nkm.lt To: npd@el.com.br Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Auth service sequencial probe. In-Reply-To: <39804D5D.B6634FB0@el.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > [ that keeps for a while ...] > > Any ideas? > this can be new sort of portscanning, as auth service may be used for finding out ports, that are open, and also users, that opened the sockets. On another hand, denying auth service is really a bad habit, a lot of services, including IRC, TCP, SSH etc check identd for user information. If you deny, but not reject it, connection attempts will last for even 30 to 60 seconds (depending on ident timeouts). Therefore, you should refuse, but not deny auth requests, as they're part of normal network operation. Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:12:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0688B37B52F for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 3B0799B1C; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F622BA11; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:12:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Morten Seeberg Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1 Release Tag In-Reply-To: <039a01bff7ed$3b83b3a0$deff58c1@sos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Morten Seeberg wrote: > Ehh, did I miss something? > > First of all the release tag is 3 digits 4_1_0, I thought this stopped with > 2.x.x? > Nope, still the same. See any file in the cvs tree (e.g. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/Makefile) that's been around for a few years and you will see how the release tags have been consistent. > And I also thought that there was a code-freeze of 30 days on both major and > minor releases? is this wrong? > A week or so is the norm for a code-freeze on a minor release. Major releases tend to have longer code-{slushes|freezes} to stabilize when coming from -current. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:13:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93D437BE37 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27953; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA23108; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:12:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007271612.JAA23108@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: rasmus@gal.dk Subject: Re: make world fail (at) (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > > Somehow a lot of the .depend files (not only at, also banner.. etc) had > binary content (!?). I would strongly recommend that you run fsck Real Soon Now, and that you look over your /var/log/messages* files to see if there have been any filesystem or disk-related kernel messages lately. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:16:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA91537BB9A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27969; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA23149; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007271615.JAA23149@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <20000727080437.A5048@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200007270049.KAA24140@lightning.itga.com.au> <20000727080437.A5048@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20000727080437.A5048@walton.maths.tcd.ie>, David Malone wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:49:55AM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > If you're going to start installing packages, rsync is a much more > > efficient solution than rdist, and rsync-over-ssh works just fine. > > We're working on some patches which makes rdist much faster over > ssh (about four times faster for our local use). Rsync is fine for > some stuff, but it isn't really a replacement for rdist. Some of the > more recent versions of rsync also seem to have problems with some > versions of ssh too. > > (We were going to try to write a rdist/rsync cross but found another > way around the problem). CVSup can also be used for general-purpose mirroring of arbitrary files from one place to another. It preserves hard links, symlinks, device nodes, etc. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:28:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (web120.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C075037BC3E for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18400 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2000 16:28:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.226.241.187] by web120.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:07 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: TCSH To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, When is tcsh going to be in the FreeBSD base system? I was expecting to see it in 4.1, but I don't unless i'm missing something. Thanks, Holt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:28:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe37.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2653037C0B2 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vinxs_@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 19766 invoked by uid 65534); 27 Jul 2000 16:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000727162836.19765.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [194.109.60.172] From: "Vincent Bruijnes" To: , Subject: softupdates? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:28:01 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone knows, if the softupdates in the latest stable source have been updated? Cause there were empty files. Thanks, Vincent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:39:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F31437BBC4; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:39:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HqhB-0005z7-00 ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:39:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:39:41 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net>; from dbutter@wireless.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:36:54AM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Devin Butterfield probably said: > Very cool. Thanks Bill (and everyone else who replied), this patch works > great! Sound is working well now on my Sony Vaio. :) My Z505HS, a newer vaio, has the yamaha chipset which works fine without this patch, _until_ I suspend the machine, when it stops outputting anything, xmms can't play, /dev/audio produces nothing, etc. Looking at the docs for OSS this is a known problem for them and they have a linux/apm workaround which stops and restarts the sound system, something I can't seem to do with newpcm; http://www.4front-tech.com/readme/README.PCI-XG.html FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Jul 27 2000 03:44:14 Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xfedf8000 irq 9 (4p/2r channels duplex) As well as audio failing over a suspend/resume, usb stops working. When I plug in a device (like the USB floppy) I get; usb0: host system error usb0: host controller halted uhci_device_request: not done, ii=0xc0c5b9c0 uhci_device_request: not done, ii=0xc0c5b9c0 uhub0: device problem, disabling port 2 and before a suspend the usb floppy gives me odd warnings because the slices are garbage; da0s1: slice starts beyond end of the disk: rejecting it da0s2: slice starts beyond end of the disk: rejecting it da0s3: slice starts beyond end of the disk: rejecting it da0s4: slice starts beyond end of the disk: rejecting it If I do anything with the built in fxp interface (including compiling it into the kernel) the machine hangs after a resume (OS hang, not hardware). I can suspend/resume fine until I do 'ifconfig fxp0' as root, which loads the fxp kernel module and then a resume will hang the machine. I forced a panic with a ddb kernel and got a crash dump supposedly saved, but savecore tells me I have no crash dump. Feh. I'll try again later. I'm completely failing to get suspend to disk working on this machine - can someone else with a Z505 and that working send me their fdisk output, please ? I've upgraded the bios to the 'windows 2000' required version from sony. cvsuped last night. Help ? Ta, Peter. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:44: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635A937BBC4 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:44:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6RGhoI24770; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:43:50 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCSH Message-ID: <20000727094349.U17222@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com>; from holtor@yahoo.com on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 09:28:07AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Holtor [000727 09:34] wrote: > Hi, > > When is tcsh going to be in the FreeBSD base system? > I was expecting to see it in 4.1, but I don't unless > i'm missing something. Look harder. It should be in /bin. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:46:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA1737BC04 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id e6RGk4411153; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200007271646.e6RGk4411153@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCSH In-Reply-To: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> References: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Comments: In-reply-to Holtor message dated "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:28:07 -0700." From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-397449414P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:46:04 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-397449414P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Holtor wrote: > When is tcsh going to be in the FreeBSD base system? > I was expecting to see it in 4.1, but I don't unless > i'm missing something. You're missing something...from the release notes: The csh(1) shell has been replaced by tcsh(1), although it can still be run as csh(1). Bruce. --==_Exmh_-397449414P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: RQUw9WE0+W/Y9Mh3PUT2lizQ/TeWwzlW iQA/AwUBOYBnS9jKMXFboFLDEQJuCACfeEmrKE3WzJ9M+u9NgL631yoenpgAnRD2 3FUTpUed81ZBu//RVry0iRbc =p/YI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-397449414P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:47:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57F837B9A1 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA77209; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007271647.JAA77209@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Install problem with RC-3 In-Reply-To: <39803B9E.ACD73AAC@thehousleys.net> from James Housley at "Jul 27, 2000 09:39:42 am" To: James Housley Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Housley wrote: > I wish I was able to try/find this last week, but could try until last > night. DHCP was broken in between RC2 and RC3 on July 20. Luckily, it was found literally hours before the release was tagged and rolled, and it is fixed in 4.1-RELEASE. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:51:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A2837BAC3 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA77320; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:51:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007271651.JAA77320@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: TCSH In-Reply-To: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> from Holtor at "Jul 27, 2000 09:28:07 am" To: Holtor Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Holtor wrote: > Hi, > > When is tcsh going to be in the FreeBSD base system? > I was expecting to see it in 4.1, but I don't unless > i'm missing something. /bin/tcsh > Thanks, > Holt -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:53:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E55037C10C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cup.hp.com) Received: from adlmail.cup.hp.com (adlmail.cup.hp.com [15.0.100.30]) by palrel1.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3808CD; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cup.hp.com (gauss.cup.hp.com [15.28.97.152]) by adlmail.cup.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.02) with ESMTP id JAA07145; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39806908.C474B840@cup.hp.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:28 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: Hewlett-Packard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasmus Skaarup Cc: Warner Losh , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world fail (at) (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rasmus Skaarup wrote: > > > > I did a fresh cvsup in a empty /usr/src directory, and got the exact same > > > error: > > > > I did not follow this thread, but I assume you also had an empty > > /usr/obj? > > No. I removed the obj directory, and tried again and now it's working. I > figured that the exsting obj-files would be replaced, but apparently not. The problem comes when makefiles change (or any of the files that gets included). The "state" you have on disk may not be a valid one given the new makefiles, even though it was valid for previous versions of that makefile... > > > ".depend", line 7: Need an operator > > > ".depend", line 10: Need an operator > > > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Can you mail what's on these lines? > > Somehow a lot of the .depend files (not only at, also banner.. etc) had > binary content (!?). They shouldn't have. Something got corrupted. Make sure your filesystem is clean... HTH, -- Marcel Moolenaar mail: marcel@cup.hp.com / marcel@FreeBSD.org tel: (408) 447-4222 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:53:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3115A37C1C9; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6RGrUn25046; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:30 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: npd@el.com.br Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Auth service sequencial probe. Message-ID: <20000727095330.Y17222@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <39804D5D.B6634FB0@el.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <39804D5D.B6634FB0@el.com.br>; from g-paiva@el.com.br on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 11:55:25AM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Gilson de Paiva [000727 07:53] wrote: > Hi, > Does anybody know any exploit or weakness of FreeBSD's auth service? > This is ( a part of ) log message generated by a ipfw rule denying any setup connection to > my external ip ( ipfw add deny log logamount 500 tcp from any to any in via ${oif} setup > ). > The interesting fact is that no other service was probed, meaning that this was the > service trying to be contacted, not a nmap or other scan. > > [...] > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > ipfw: 900 Deny TCP 200.242.x.xxx:4744 x.x.x.x:113 in via ep1 > [ that keeps for a while ...] > > Any ideas? Identd vulnerabities are _really_ old. More likely you're seeing that ident is checked by a lot of services nowadays, if you contact an SMTP server directly it should come back and attempt to ident you. And please do not cross post, if you think it belongs on -questions, then that's the only place you should post it. thanks, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:54: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE5CF37C12A for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 18450 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2000 16:53:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20000727165347.18449.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.226.241.187] by web121.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:47 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Re: TCSH To: bmah@cisco.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > If memory serves me right, Holtor wrote: > > > When is tcsh going to be in the FreeBSD base > system? > > I was expecting to see it in 4.1, but I don't > unless > > i'm missing something. > > You're missing something...from the release notes: > > The csh(1) shell has been replaced by tcsh(1), > although it can still > be run as csh(1). > > Bruce. > Some tell me its in /bin/tcsh - wouldn't that mean that a /usr/src/bin/tcsh would need to exist (which doesn't on my system) ? Holt > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:54:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED9437C195 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C4D10485 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:53:33 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id RAA20613 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:53:32 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00295 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:56:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:56:13 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: (SMP) "panic: can't control IO APIC #0 ID, red : 0x00000000" Message-ID: <20000727175613.A199@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline FreeBSD 4.1-RC (cvsupped on July 20). Hardware : Dual Pentium Pro 200, [ HP Vectra XU 6/200 ]. Although I've had this machine working before with SMP (it was fine with 3.2 and 3.4 release) it doesn't seem to want to work with 4.x (-stable), except with GENERIC. Firstly, here's what happens on bootup (copied by hand, please excuse any extra whitespace) ########### panic snippet : Features = 0xfbff <.....lots of features.....> real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) avail memory = 192376832 (187868K bytes) panic: can't control IO APIC #0 ID, reg : 0x00000000 mp_lock = 0000000a; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 01000000 Uptime : 0s ########### end of panic snippet, power cycle next... I've attached, mptable -verbose, kernel config file (MOOSE), and dmesg from GENERIC bootup... Thanks in advance, Steve Roome --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=mptable =============================================================================== MPTable, version 2.0.15 looking for EBDA pointer @ 0x040e, found, searching EBDA @ 0x0009f800 searching CMOS 'top of mem' @ 0x0009f400 (637K) searching default 'top of mem' @ 0x0009fc00 (639K) searching BIOS @ 0x000f0000 MP FPS found in BIOS @ physical addr: 0x000f99a0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Floating Pointer Structure: location: BIOS physical address: 0x000f99a0 signature: '_MP_' length: 16 bytes version: 1.1 checksum: 0x4b mode: Virtual Wire ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Table Header: physical address: 0x000f99b0 signature: 'PCMP' base table length: 236 version: 1.1 checksum: 0xe0 OEM ID: 'HP ' Product ID: 'XX ' OEM table pointer: 0x00000000 OEM table size: 0 entry count: 21 local APIC address: 0xfee00000 extended table length: 0 extended table checksum: 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MP Config Base Table Entries: -- Processors: APIC ID Version State Family Model Step Flags 1 0x11 BSP, usable 6 1 0 0xfbff 0 0x11 AP, usable 6 1 0 0xfbff -- Bus: Bus ID Type 1 ISA 0 PCI -- I/O APICs: APIC ID Version State Address 16 0x11 usable 0xfec00000 -- I/O Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# INT conforms conforms 1 1 255 1 INT conforms conforms 1 0 255 2 INT conforms conforms 1 3 255 3 INT conforms conforms 1 4 255 4 INT conforms conforms 1 5 255 5 INT conforms conforms 1 6 255 6 INT conforms conforms 1 7 255 7 INT conforms conforms 1 8 255 8 INT conforms conforms 1 9 255 9 INT conforms conforms 1 10 255 10 INT conforms conforms 1 11 255 11 INT conforms conforms 1 12 255 12 INT conforms conforms 1 13 255 13 INT conforms conforms 1 14 255 14 INT conforms conforms 1 15 255 15 -- Local Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# NMI conforms conforms 1 2 255 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # SMP kernel config file options: # Required: options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optional (built-in defaults will work in most cases): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=2 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs =============================================================================== --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 4.1-RC #0: Thu Jul 20 20:12:33 BST 2000 steve@moose.bri.hp.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (199.74-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 Features=0xfbff real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) avail memory = 191549440 (187060K bytes) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 0.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x374-0x377,0x170-0x17f,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1ff irq 14 at device 1.0 on pci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ahc0: port 0xf800-0xf8ff mem 0xffbfc000-0xffbfcfff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs pci0: at 11.0 irq 10 lnc0: port 0xf400-0xf41f mem 0xffbec000-0xffbec01f irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0 lnc0: PCnet-FAST address 00:60:b0:3e:4b:76 lnc0: driver is using old-style compatability shims chip0: at device 20.0 on pci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO3 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4341MB (8890760 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4341C) --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=MOOSE machine i386 cpu I686_CPU # aka Pentium Pro(tm) ident MOOSE maxusers 64 ## SMP Stuff options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O ## General options options NO_F00F_HACK options COMPAT_43 options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options KTRACE #kernel tracing options PERFMON options UCONSOLE options INET #Internet communications protocols options ICMP_BANDLIM options FFS #Fast filesystem options MFS #Memory File System options NFS #Network File System options CD9660 #ISO 9660 filesystem options KERNFS #Kernel filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device options SOFTUPDATES options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L options VESA pseudo-device ether #Generic Ethernet pseudo-device loop #Network loopback device pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter device scbus #base SCSI code device ch #SCSI media changers device da #SCSI direct access devices (aka disks) device sa #SCSI tapes device cd #SCSI CD-ROMs device pass #CAM passthrough driver pseudo-device pty #Pseudo ttys pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device md #Memory/malloc disk device isa device pci device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # Splash screen at start up! Screen savers require this too. pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? options MAXCONS=16 # number of virtual consoles options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT # disable reboot key sequence options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=200 # number of history buffer lines device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX flags 0x0 irq 13 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device lnc device pcm device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO device miibus device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 9:58:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515DF37B809 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id e6RGw3j31730; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:58:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200007271658.e6RGw3j31730@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Holtor Cc: bmah@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCSH In-Reply-To: <20000727165347.18449.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> References: <20000727165347.18449.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Comments: In-reply-to Holtor message dated "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:47 -0700." From: bmah@cisco.com (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@cisco.com X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-384722214P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:58:03 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-384722214P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Holtor wrote: > --- "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > Some tell me its in /bin/tcsh - wouldn't that mean > that a /usr/src/bin/tcsh would need to exist (which > doesn't on my system) ? The two directories you want to look in are: /usr/src/bin/csh /usr/src/contrib/tcsh tcsh replaces csh, hence the infrastructure to build it still lives in /usr/src/bin/csh. The real source code is in /usr/src/contrib/tcsh. Hope this helps... Bruce. --==_Exmh_-384722214P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: 1rWlxbZoGrhwz9VKp3Idq9qVAOAMHkpo iQA/AwUBOYBqG9jKMXFboFLDEQLYEgCff79GDEGZTYB7m6iH93caaPohNcwAoObX njxed1L3SsD5QmoL/5CJUGtb =+tAv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-384722214P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10: 3:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from medianstrip.net (medianstrip.net [206.113.38.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3883137B7B5 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msr@elision.org) Received: by medianstrip.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5D69458E4; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:03:43 -0400 From: mike ryan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:39:41PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:39:41PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > My Z505HS, a newer vaio, has the yamaha chipset which works fine > without this patch, _until_ I suspend the machine, when it stops > outputting anything, xmms can't play, /dev/audio produces nothing, > etc. my z505hs has the same problem. haven't had a chance to track this down yet. > As well as audio failing over a suspend/resume, usb stops working. > When I plug in a device (like the USB floppy) I get; > usb0: host system error > usb0: host controller halted > uhci_device_request: not done, ii=0xc0c5b9c0 > > uhci_device_request: not done, ii=0xc0c5b9c0 > uhub0: device problem, disabling port 2 i had this problem too. the patch that fixed it for me is at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18261 that's against an older 4.0-stable, but it may still apply. > If I do anything with the built in fxp interface (including compiling > it into the kernel) the machine hangs after a resume (OS hang, not > hardware). I can suspend/resume fine until I do 'ifconfig fxp0' as > root, which loads the fxp kernel module and then a resume will hang > the machine. another patch, same caveat: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18756 > I'm completely failing to get suspend to disk working on this machine > - can someone else with a Z505 and that working send me their fdisk > output, please ? ******* Working on device /dev/ad0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1467 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1467 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 11,(DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT) start 63, size 8401932 (4102 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 522/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 8401995, size 7759395 (3788 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 523/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1005/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 16434495, size 7132860 (3482 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1023/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 254 The data for partition 4 is: sysid 160,(unknown) start 16161390, size 273105 (133 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 1006/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1022/ sector 63/ head 254 it appears the suspend partition has to be within the first 8 gigs of the disk. you're using phdisk.exe to create the suspend partition, right? > I've upgraded the bios to the 'windows 2000' required version from > sony. cvsuped last night. i've had the exact same suspend/resume problems with both the w2k and standard bios... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10: 8:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from subnet.sub.net (subnet.sub.net [212.227.14.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817DB37C0BB for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org) Received: from lyxys.ka.sub.org (uucp@localhost) by subnet.sub.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/1.2subnet-linux) with bsmtp id TAA29138; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:08:03 +0200 Received: from localhost (1349 bytes) by lyxys.ka.sub.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:inet_uusmtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:01:26 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Jun-12) Message-Id: From: wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel In-Reply-To: <20000727173356.A49050@mithrandr.moria.org> from Neil Blakey-Milner at "Jul 27, 0 05:33:57 pm" To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org (Neil Blakey-Milner) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:01:26 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed 2000-07-26 (20:27), Chad R. Larson wrote: > > As I recall, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > > > But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the > > > kernel using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got > > > this right i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing > > > /usr/obj to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld > > > first. > > That's how it sounds to me. > That's wrong. 'make buildkernel' should DTRT in all situations. Maybe > it doesn't yet, but it should. I tend to disagree. What "TRT" is in a given situation should be decided by the operator and not some piece of software. You could always add a separate make target "newkernel" to build a new kernel with the tools already installed. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:11:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7710837B9F7 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HrC2-0006Dn-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:11:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:11:33 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727131133.B23498@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:39:41PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe probably said: > If I do anything with the built in fxp interface (including compiling > it into the kernel) the machine hangs after a resume (OS hang, not > hardware). I can suspend/resume fine until I do 'ifconfig fxp0' as > root, which loads the fxp kernel module and then a resume will hang > the machine. > > I forced a panic with a ddb kernel and got a crash dump supposedly > saved, but savecore tells me I have no crash dump. Feh. I'll try again > later. Got a crashdump this time. Looks like it's hanging in the USB stuff ? Weird. Help ? P. #8 0xc020cffc in Debugger (msg=0xc02518e9 "manual escape to debugger") at machine/cpufunc.h:64 #9 0xc0208c6e in scgetc (sc=0xc02bbc20, flags=2) at ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:3124 #10 0xc02056b9 in sckbdevent (thiskbd=0xc02b4c80, event=0, arg=0xc02bbc20) at ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:634 #11 0xc01fd646 in atkbd_intr (kbd=0xc02b4c80, arg=0x0) at ../../dev/kbd/atkbd.c:462 #12 0xc0223518 in atkbd_isa_intr (arg=0xc02b4c80) at ../../isa/atkbd_isa.c:125 #13 0xc0d582ff in ?? () #14 0xc0220f9d in intr_mux (arg=0xc073a760) at ../../i386/isa/intr_machdep.c:569 #15 0xc020ebde in vec9 () #16 0xc01c154d in uhci_pci_resume (self=0xc0bcc400) at ../../pci/uhci_pci.c:125 #17 0xc011d07e in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc0bcc400) at device_if.c:105 #18 0xc01586e6 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc0bcc900) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1899 #19 0xc011d07e in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc0bcc900) at device_if.c:105 #20 0xc01586e6 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc0bccb80) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1899 #21 0xc011d07e in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc0bccb80) at device_if.c:105 #22 0xc01586e6 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc0bccc00) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1899 #23 0xc011d07e in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc0bccc00) at device_if.c:105 #24 0xc01586e6 in bus_generic_resume (dev=0xc0741880) at ../../kern/subr_bus.c:1899 #25 0xc011d07e in DEVICE_RESUME (dev=0xc0741880) at device_if.c:105 #26 0xc0209f43 in apm_resume () at ../../i386/apm/apm.c:596 #27 0xc020a588 in apm_processevent () at ../../i386/apm/apm.c:954 #28 0xc0209dce in apm_do_suspend () at ../../i386/apm/apm.c:481 #29 0xc020a111 in apm_timeout (dummy=0x0) at ../../i386/apm/apm.c:712 #30 0xc01559a5 in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:131 -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:13: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.isg.siue.edu (mail.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FA437C167 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vcardon@siue.edu) Received: from lisman02 (client102.ll.siue.edu [146.163.156.132]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA13741 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:09:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Victor R. Cardona" To: Subject: Kernel make install fails at agp.ko Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:12:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to upgrade my 4.0 RELEASE to 4.0 STABLE cvsuped two days ago. I am following the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING, and everything works fine until I run make install in /usr/src/sys/modules. At that point, make complains that agp.ko does not exist. I have seen other messages with this problem, but have not seen an answer. Am I doing something wrong? Please reply to vcardon@siue.edu Thanks, Victor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:13:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2931337B9D8 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id F06809B06; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:13:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:13:15 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Christopher Shumway Cc: Devin Butterfield , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000727181315.E5964@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Christopher Shumway , Devin Butterfield , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from cshumway@bsdi.com on Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:18:13PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:18:13PM -0700, Christopher Shumway wrote: > > Apply this patch to src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c, it seems to fix it on > my Sony Viao Z505SX. (Credit goes to Bill Fumerola) > > --- channel.c.orig Tue Jun 20 16:42:08 2000 > +++ channel.c Tue Jul 25 12:10:11 2000 > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; > b->underflow = 0; > } else { > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ > + chn_dmaupdate(c); > } > } It fixed it on mine too - but at the seeming expense of suspend/resume. :( Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:14:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5384537BDE9 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000727171451.RLHQ23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:14:51 -0700 Message-ID: <39806E0B.E1A937CA@math.missouri.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:14:51 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As the one who started this thread - now that the handbook tells release people to do the config method, I am very happy. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:15:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A4837C156 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@pavilion.net) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 528A19B03; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:14:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:14:09 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Devin Butterfield Cc: Bill Fumerola , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000727181409.F5964@pavilion.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Devin Butterfield , Bill Fumerola , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net>; from dbutter@wireless.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:36:54AM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:36:54AM -0700, Devin Butterfield wrote: > > > Index: channel.c > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c,v > > retrieving revision 1.32 > > diff -u -r1.32 channel.c > > --- channel.c 2000/06/20 23:42:08 1.32 > > +++ channel.c 2000/07/22 17:36:34 > > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ > > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; > > b->underflow = 0; > > } else { > > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ > > + chn_dmaupdate(c); > > } > > } Bill, do you use suspend/resume on your machine? I believe that some recent change in the pcm driver has hosed this! :( Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:18:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4833737C302 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HrIl-0006H9-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:18:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:18:30 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727131830.C23498@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net>; from msr@elision.org on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:03:43PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mike ryan probably said: > my z505hs has the same problem. haven't had a chance to track this > down yet. Hey Mike, I din't remember your Z was a HS :) > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18261 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18756 Ah, very cool. I didn't think to search the prs. Stupid of me. > it appears the suspend partition has to be within the first 8 gigs > of the disk. you're using phdisk.exe to create the suspend > partition, right? Erm. *cough* phdisk.exe ? Where, what, how ? My TR shipped with a working suspend partition, I just copied the numbers into fdisk when I created one on my wife's TR I didn't actually know there was a sony program to create it ... > i've had the exact same suspend/resume problems with both the w2k > and standard bios... I upgraded the bios out of habit. My triple cap battery arrived today, too :) Thanks very much for the info, P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:25:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B2A637C143 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 27 Jul 2000 18:25:46 +0100 (BST) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie, dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:15:59 PDT." <200007271615.JAA23149@vashon.polstra.com> X-Request-Do: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:25:46 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <200007271825.aa11185@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > CVSup can also be used for general-purpose mirroring of arbitrary > files from one place to another. It preserves hard links, symlinks, > device nodes, etc. Indeed - we did look at it as an option. Cvsup is dead nice, but I don't think it did what we wanted. 1) We already had ssh for authentication and it wasn't clear if there was a way to get cvsup to use ssh for authentication. (It's pretty obvious how to get it to work for transport). 2) Cvsupd comes with warnings about not running it as root, which we'd need to. (We use rdist for cloning /usr and /usr/local complete with non-world-readable files). 3) I wasn't sure if you can adjust what gets pushed out to clients from a central config file. We have per machine exceptions. 4) It doesn't read distfiles ;-) While I'm thinking of it, I also noticed a problem with cvsup's GUI. I use tvtwm as a window manager and use ctrl+arrow keys to move around my desktop. However this doesn't work if the mouse is pointing into the cvsup window. I presume this is a modula 3 problem, but I thought you might know what was going on. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:41:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3EB37B7B5 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from feta.isds.duke.edu (feta.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.76]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31092 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by feta.isds.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02267 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:41:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:41:08 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727134108.L1679@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> <20000727131830.C23498@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000727131830.C23498@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:18:30PM -0400 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe stated: : mike ryan probably said: : > my z505hs has the same problem. haven't had a chance to track this : > down yet. : : Hey Mike, I din't remember your Z was a HS :) : : > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18261 : > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18756 : : Ah, very cool. I didn't think to search the prs. Stupid of me. : : > it appears the suspend partition has to be within the first 8 gigs : > of the disk. you're using phdisk.exe to create the suspend : > partition, right? : : Erm. *cough* phdisk.exe ? Where, what, how ? : : My TR shipped with a working suspend partition, I just copied the : numbers into fdisk when I created one on my wife's TR I didn't : actually know there was a sony program to create it ... : : > i've had the exact same suspend/resume problems with both the w2k : > and standard bios... : : I upgraded the bios out of habit. My triple cap battery arrived today, : too :) Pete- Dell has a utility (somewhere) that will create a suspend-to-disk partition as the first partition (it must be before the 8.4GB limit stuff). The phdisk.exe that comes with the TR (somewhere) and other machines with the Phoenix BIOSputs it at the end of the harddrive, but this is worthless on your 12GB HDD. (I have a copy of phdisk that I grabbed from IBM or Dell support ... snork :). I could ask about the BIOS utility. S ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:52: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58A637B64D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FAFE8D1 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11303; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14720.30399.384087.289964@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCSH In-Reply-To: <20000727165347.18449.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> References: <20000727165347.18449.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "H" == Holtor writes: H> Some tell me its in /bin/tcsh - wouldn't that mean H> that a /usr/src/bin/tcsh would need to exist (which H> doesn't on my system) ? Symlink it for legacy reasons until you wipe out all hard-references to /usr/local/bin/tcsh in preference to /bin/tcsh, or just leave them both there. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:58:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E65737BC2B; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:58:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01753; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:58:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:58:00 +0200 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: Vincent Bruijnes Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates? Message-ID: <20000727195800.A1726@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> Reply-To: K.J.Bosschaart@tue.nl References: <20000727162836.19765.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000727162836.19765.qmail@hotmail.com>; from vinxs_@hotmail.com on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:28:01PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:28:01PM +0200, Vincent Bruijnes wrote: > Anyone knows, if the softupdates in the latest stable source have been > updated? > Cause there were empty files. > Not really, but since the license changed, the softupdates do not require the symlinks anymore and now they are where you would have the symlinks before. Remove the links before CVSupping. I didn't do this and got errors while compiling softupdates ;-). Karel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 10:59:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F7F37B64D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (cshumway@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA79273; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:57:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshumway@bsdi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pike.osd.bsdi.com: cshumway owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Shumway X-Sender: cshumway@pike.osd.bsdi.com To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Devin Butterfield , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems In-Reply-To: <20000727181315.E5964@pavilion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:18:13PM -0700, Christopher Shumway wrote: > > > > Apply this patch to src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c, it seems to fix it on > > my Sony Viao Z505SX. (Credit goes to Bill Fumerola) > > > > --- channel.c.orig Tue Jun 20 16:42:08 2000 > > +++ channel.c Tue Jul 25 12:10:11 2000 > > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ > > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; > > b->underflow = 0; > > } else { > > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ > > + chn_dmaupdate(c); > > } > > } > > It fixed it on mine too - but at the seeming expense of suspend/resume. :( Interesting. Suspend to ram still works on my laptop, even while playing MP3's. XMMS just picks up again right where it left off. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 11: 4: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from medianstrip.net (medianstrip.net [206.113.38.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E437B64D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msr@elision.org) Received: by medianstrip.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9935958E4; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:04:01 -0400 From: mike ryan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727140401.A24165@medianstrip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> <20000727131830.C23498@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20000727131830.C23498@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:18:30PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:18:30PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > mike ryan probably said: > > it appears the suspend partition has to be within the first 8 gigs > > of the disk. you're using phdisk.exe to create the suspend > > partition, right? > > Erm. *cough* phdisk.exe ? Where, what, how ? maybe that's the problem... :) it was preinstalled at c:\sonysys\Vsrcdfd\IMG\SPT\phdisk.exe on my machine. it's probably also on the recovery cds somewhere. usage is pretty straightforward, phdisk /create /partition i think. it will put the suspend partition just before the 8 gig barrier, so you'll have to build your other partitions around that hole in the middle of the disk... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 11: 4:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6324D37BDCA for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:04:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30710; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:04:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:04:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007271804.UAA30710@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8lpho5$i7$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable ym g wrote: > I read on appwatch.com that 4.1 has some kernel primitive called kqueue which can replace poll/select. > Are there any applications which use this ? Are there plans for any apps like thin/fast [maybe in kernel] webserver which uses kqueue tail -f is using it, which makes much sense. Without kqueue, tail -f had to poll the file actively every second or something like that. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 11:16:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E1DA37B75E for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:16:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 23812 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2000 18:16:33 -0000 Received: from p3e9e7b4e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.158.123.78) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2000 18:16:33 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29793 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:35:35 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:35:35 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000727193535.O24476@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20000727015302.C698@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000727015302.C698@earthlink.net>; from eogren@earthlink.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:53:02AM -0400 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ reformatted for readability ] On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:53 -0400, Eric Ogren wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 08:27:31PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > > > We've also created a situation where space-limited folks > > =can't= update just kernel sources. > > > This has always been the case, hasn't it? Although the modules > + kernel out of sync problem should've been dealt with by the > new make knobs, we still don't support people just upgrading > their kernel without upgrading their userland. > > Or am I wrong? Not that I'm to be taken as a reference, but is there any point in doing so? Since there's an interface between the kernel and userland and there are quite a few essential userland tools being tied(sp?) to the kernel very closely, updating only one of the two affected parts will very likely cause grief. One shouldn't support such behaviour. :) usual disclaimer: There might be people out there knowing better, but they're able to help themselves and know what to do when encountering errors. :> Updating sources and building kernels or worlds one is expected to learn a little and think, anyway ... virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 11:32:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B2637C13C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HsRl-0009KC-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:31:53 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HsRl-000Os7-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:31:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:31:52 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: John Baldwin Cc: James Housley , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Install problem with RC-3 Message-ID: <20000727193152.H59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <39803B9E.ACD73AAC@thehousleys.net> <200007271647.JAA77209@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200007271647.JAA77209@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > DHCP was broken in between RC2 and RC3 on July 20. Luckily, it was found > literally hours before the release was tagged and rolled, and it is fixed > in 4.1-RELEASE. Does the one in 4.1-R give the right broadcast address? The dhclient in -current is giving me the "all 0s" address instead of "all 1s" (see my message to -current), and although I can't test it easily, it looks like it's the same in -stable, and hence in 4.1-R. :-( This is unless I've misconfigured something, of course, which isn't at all unlikely. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 11:42:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DB537BF02; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02553; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:42:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <39808294.47417F36@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:42:28 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Smithurst Cc: John Baldwin , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Install problem with RC-3 References: <39803B9E.ACD73AAC@thehousleys.net> <200007271647.JAA77209@pike.osd.bsdi.com> <20000727193152.H59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ben Smithurst wrote: > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > DHCP was broken in between RC2 and RC3 on July 20. Luckily, it was found > > literally hours before the release was tagged and rolled, and it is fixed > > in 4.1-RELEASE. > > Does the one in 4.1-R give the right broadcast address? The dhclient in > -current is giving me the "all 0s" address instead of "all 1s" (see my > message to -current), and although I can't test it easily, it looks like > it's the same in -stable, and hence in 4.1-R. :-( > > This is unless I've misconfigured something, of course, which isn't at > all unlikely. > I updated with the ctm files that came in at about 15:30 EDT yesterday (7/26) and built world, which is still showing RC1. The client is fine, in correct broadcast address. Jim -- Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 11:42:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E15837C05B; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA37901; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:42:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA41128; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007271842.MAA41128@harmony.village.org> To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: Auth service sequencial probe. Cc: npd@el.com.br, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:53:30 PDT." <20000727095330.Y17222@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000727095330.Y17222@fw.wintelcom.net> <39804D5D.B6634FB0@el.com.br> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:42:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000727095330.Y17222@fw.wintelcom.net> Alfred Perlstein writes: : Identd vulnerabities are _really_ old. And most of the old ones were really sendmail or http trusting the response too much and not a vulnerability in the identd daemon. The only vulnewrability in identd is thinking you can trust the results you get from machines not in your administrative domain. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 12:26: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C539C37B5C5 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HtI3-0009QM-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:25:55 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13HtI3-000Cn4-00; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:25:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:25:55 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: James Housley Cc: John Baldwin , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Install problem with RC-3 Message-ID: <20000727202555.J59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <39803B9E.ACD73AAC@thehousleys.net> <200007271647.JAA77209@pike.osd.bsdi.com> <20000727193152.H59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> <39808294.47417F36@thehousleys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39808294.47417F36@thehousleys.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Housley wrote: > Ben Smithurst wrote: >> Does the one in 4.1-R give the right broadcast address? The dhclient in >> -current is giving me the "all 0s" address instead of "all 1s" (see my >> message to -current), and although I can't test it easily, it looks like >> it's the same in -stable, and hence in 4.1-R. :-( >> >> This is unless I've misconfigured something, of course, which isn't at >> all unlikely. >> > I updated with the ctm files that came in at about 15:30 EDT yesterday > (7/26) and built world, which is still showing RC1. The client is fine, > in correct broadcast address. Ah, that's good. It's either only in -current then or it's not even in -current, and it's just something I've broken myself. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 12:27:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC15E37BB0F for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@hand.dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13HtIw-0000GN-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:26:50 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: PNPBIOS and atkbd Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:26:50 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since someone clued me in about using the PNPBIOS option to automate some isa resource allocations I have been experimenting with it. I've managed to remove most of the irq stuff from my kernel configuration file, apart from a few culprits. The main one is the keyboard and mouse. The minimum working config I have found is: device atkbdc device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 If I remove the irq statements the kernel panics when probing the keyboard "nexus_setup_intr: NULL irq resource!" which is a bit of a shame. IWBNI the driver could get that information from PNP. Hmm, but the PNP probe messages don't seem to have the necessary information. The other annoyance is that I have to tell vga and syscons to find themselves on the ISA bus. Does PNP not inform the OS about them either? My config and dmesg are included. Any comments welcome! Tony. -- f.a.n.finch fanf@covalent.net dot@dotat.at 438 the wet carpet treatment ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # $Header: /cvs/fanf/conf/DELL-Latitude-CPx,v 1.24 2000/07/27 18:24:36 fanf Exp $ ident DELL-Latitude-CPx machine i386 cpu I686_CPU maxusers 256 makeoptions DEBUG=-g # increase process limits options MAXDSIZ="(256*1024*1024)" options DFLDSIZ="(256*1024*1024)" options PQ_NORMALCACHE # color for 256k/16k cache options NO_F00F_HACK options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options PERFMON # pentium performance support options KTRACE # ktrace(1) syscall trace support options VESA # support for VESA video modes options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel options INVARIANT_SUPPORT # extra sanity checking options INVARIANTS options DIAGNOSTIC # debug messages options DDB # built-in debugger options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B # POSIX Real time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # ...t.n.g. options IPSEC # IP security options IPSEC_ESP # IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) options ICMP_BANDLIM options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT # FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options NFS # Network Filesystem options NFS_NOSERVER options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # better performance options SYNCER_MAXDELAY=256 # allow 5 minutes between syncs device pci device isa options AUTO_EOI_1 # faster interrupt handling #options AUTO_EOI_2 options PNPBIOS # for better isa device configuration # Floating point support device npx # Power management support device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Floppy drives device fdc0 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA # Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # Keyboard and mouse device atkbdc device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 options PSM_HOOKRESUME #hook the system resume event options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND #reset the device at the resume event # Screen device vga0 at isa? # video support device sc0 at isa? # default SCO-like console driver options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=256 # number of history buffer lines options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT # disable reboot key sequence options SC_PIXEL_MODE # enable raster console # Serial ports device sio # Parallel port device ppc # Parallel port controller device ppbus # Parallel port bus device lpt # Printer device ppi # Geek port # PC Card support device pcic device card options PCIC_RESUME_RESET # reset after resume # USB support device uhci # hardware controller device usb # generic controller device ugen # generic device device uhid # buttons and dials device ukbd # keyboard device ulpt # printer device ums # mouse device umass # disks # SCSI support (for umass) device scbus # base SCSI code device da # SCSI direct access devices (aka disks) device pass # CAM passthrough driver # the ESS Maestro driver isn't here yet #device pcm # sound support # Network interfaces device miibus # MII bus support device xl # 3Com 3c90x (in docking station) device ed0 # NE2000 (D-Link pccard ether) pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel, for ppp(8) pseudo-device bpf # Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device vn # Vnode turns files into devices pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (xterm, telnet etc.) pseudo-device speaker # blips and beeps ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE-20000727 #5: Thu Jul 27 18:20:50 UTC 2000 root@hand.dotat.at:/other/src/sys/compile/DELL-Latitude-CPx Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (498.47-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 126631936 (123664K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "test5" at 0xc0360000. module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, c026db34, 0) error 6 Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 pcic-pci0: irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pcic-pci1: irq 11 at device 3.1 on pci0 pcic-pci1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x860-0x86f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: port 1 power on failed, IOERROR uhub0: port 2 power on failed, IOERROR chip1: port 0x840-0x84f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x125d, dev=0x1998) at 8.0 irq 5 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> unknown0: at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x800-0x83f,0x840-0x84f,0x880-0x88f,0x3f0-0x3f1,0xe0-0xe1 iomem 0-0x9ffff,0x100000-0x7ffffff,0xf0000-0xfffff,0xfffe0000-0xffffffff,0x100a0000-0x100fffff on isa0 unknown2: at port 0xf400-0xf4fe iomem 0xed000000-0xedffffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown3: at port 0x40-0x5f irq 0 on isa0 unknown4: at port 0x80-0x9f,0-0x1f,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown5: at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown6: at port 0x70-0x7f irq 8 on isa0 unknown7: at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0 pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 9 on isa0 pcic0: management irq 9 pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77b irq 7 drq 3 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port fdc0: at port 0x3f2-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. ad0: 11513MB [23392/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 13: 8:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AA337B69C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DAF0B9EE01; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D718C9B001; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCSH In-Reply-To: <20000727162807.18399.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Holtor wrote: > When is tcsh going to be in the FreeBSD base system? > I was expecting to see it in 4.1, but I don't unless > i'm missing something. [104]mike@snafu{mike}$ uname -a FreeBSD snafu.adept.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 12 14:35:23 PDT 2000 mike@snafu.adept.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/SNAFU i386 [105]mike@snafu{mike}$ which tcsh /bin/tcsh -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 13: 9:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-201-63-44.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.201.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFC737C0B3 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:09:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by snafu.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A8CB9EE02; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snafu.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770AD9B001; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:09:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Holtor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCSH In-Reply-To: <200007271646.e6RGk4411153@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > The csh(1) shell has been replaced by tcsh(1), although it can still > be run as csh(1). Wow. Back when I was a tcsh fanatic, this would have made my day. I may just have to recovnert... ;) -mrh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 13:32:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4E37C0B5; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oschonef@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.133.65]) by gemma.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.9.1/8.9.1/TechFak/pk+ro20000427) with SMTP id WAA06407; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:32:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Schonefeld Received: by frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (SMI-8.6/pk970604A) id WAA23474; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:32:06 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:32:06 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: winter@jurai.net, jlemon@freebsd.org, gibbs@freebsd.org Subject: 4.1-STABLE: incompatability ida <-> ahc Message-ID: <20000727223206.A23116@frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Zen: Oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I just cvsupped to 4.1-STABLE and tried to get my Compaq SMART-1 array controller running. Unfortunalty the kernel still panics :( First strange thing: about one or two ago i tried -CURRENT everthing was successfully initialized and i actually could use the array. Unfortunalty something with the vx driver was broken, so i hat to go for -STABLE again. Second strange thing: if there are no disks attached to the board. it is probed correctly and the kernel boots fine. If there is at least one logical drive configured, we'll get a kernel panic. On the first look, the panic does not exactly come from the ida code, but at least for me it looks like the driver is doing something wrong, if there are any logical volumes configured. Current Hardware Configuration is: Compaq ProSigna w/Pentium Overdrive and 88 MB Ram 2x 3Com 3C597 NICs (eisa slot 1 and 2) 1x Adaptec 1740 SCSI host adapter (eisa slot 3) 1x Adaptec 2740 SCSI host adapter (eisa slot 7) 1x Compaq SMART Array Controller (eisa slot 4) 2x Quantum Fireball 1GB (configured as mirror set) dmesg output: ida0: at 0x4c88-0x4c9e, irq (level) ida0: on eisa0 slot 4 ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=2.26 idad0: 1041MB (2133168 sectors), blocksize=512 Creating DISK idad0 ahc0: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual addres = 0x80107 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0203ce3 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc02e5e44 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc02e5e44 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam kernel: type 12, code=0 Stopped as eisa_find_ioaddr+0xb: movl 0x8(%eax),%eax db> examine eisa_find_ioaddr+0xb: eb08408b db> trace eisa_find_ioaddr(800ff,0,8cb00200,9230020,ff000010) at eisa_find_ioaddr+0xb eisa_print_child(c0de4f80,c0de4c80,c02e5eec,c015b0e9,c0de4f80) at eisa_print_child+0xde BUS_PRINT_CHILD(c0de4f80,c0de4c80,c0de4c80,c0de4f80,c02e5f08) at BUS_PRINT_CHILD+0x32 device_print_child(c0de4f80,c0de4c80) at device_print_child+0x21 device_probe_and_attach(c0de4c80) at device_probe_and_attach+0x46 bus_generic_attach(c0de4f80,c02e5f3c,c015b8cb,c0de4f80,c0de3080) at bus_generic_attach+0x16 DEVICE_ATTACH(c0de4f80,c0de3080,c065d600,0,c02e5f4c) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x2e device_probe_and_attach(c0de4f80) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4f nexus_attach(c0de3080,c02e5f70,c015b8cb,c0de3080,c0de3080) at nexus_attach+0x4e DEVICE_ATTACH(c0de3080,c0de3080,c0264130,2ea000,c02e5f80) at DEVICE_ATTACH+0x2e device_probe_and_attach(c0de3080) at device_probe_and_attach+0x4f root_bus_configure(c065d600,c024786c,0) at root_bus_configure+0x16 configure(0,2e3c00,2ea000,0,c011b584) at configure+0x33 mi_startup(c02e5fb4,b0297,ffe,2ea000,c0160119) at mi_startup+0x71 begin() at begin+0x4b db> Hmmm .... strange. I just tried booting the machine again while having the ahc driver diesables (acctually set probing of the eisa busses to 6) and the kernel boot fine, except it cannot find it's root filesystem (well, was attached to the 2740). Therefore there must be some incompatabilty between the ida and the ahc driver. As said above, if there are _no_ volumes configured on the array controller, there is panic. It do not really know, how hard it is, to resolve this isse, but it would be nice, if the compaq eisa board would run with freebsd (at least, i would be very happy). Unfortunalty i cannot provide a crash dump image, but if there is anything else i can do, please let me know. regards, oliver -- -------------------------------------------------------- And remember: "To Infinity And Far Beyond ... Somehow?!" email: oschonef@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de olli@psychopathen.org -------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 13:47:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from umhlanga.noc.clara.net (umhlanga.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF55737BB36 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neil@umhlanga.noc.clara.net) Received: from neil by umhlanga.noc.clara.net with local (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13HuZB-000Imb-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:47:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:47:41 +0100 From: Neil Acres To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-stable Message-ID: <20000727214741.B72168@clara.net> Reply-To: neil@clara.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable -- Neil Acres ClaraNET Systems neil@clara.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 14:12:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0E137B523 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9F7D1C78; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:12:28 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Josef Karthauser , Devin Butterfield , hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000727171228.M51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727181409.F5964@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000727181409.F5964@pavilion.net>; from joe@pavilion.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:14:09PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 06:14:09PM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Bill, do you use suspend/resume on your machine? I believe that some > recent change in the pcm driver has hosed this! :( No, post-peter-config(8)-axe ate my apm, so I haven't used anything APM since then. My laptop also has just been my home machine for the past 2 weeks so that really won't bother me until I have to travel next. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 14:39:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (mass.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C4237C0E4 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:39:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00547; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200007272149.OAA00547@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tony Finch Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PNPBIOS and atkbd In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:26:50 -0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:49:20 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Since someone clued me in about using the PNPBIOS option to automate > some isa resource allocations I have been experimenting with it. I've > managed to remove most of the irq stuff from my kernel configuration > file, apart from a few culprits. The main one is the keyboard and > mouse. The minimum working config I have found is: > device atkbdc > device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 > device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 > If I remove the irq statements the kernel panics when probing the > keyboard "nexus_setup_intr: NULL irq resource!" which is a bit of a > shame. IWBNI the driver could get that information from PNP. Hmm, but > the PNP probe messages don't seem to have the necessary information. > > The other annoyance is that I have to tell vga and syscons to find > themselves on the ISA bus. Does PNP not inform the OS about them > either? It does, actually. The problem is that the early console attach happens long before we start paying attention to this information. The problem is reasonably well understood - the "correct" solution hasn't quite made itself known yet. (It probably involves some extra access methods to the PnP information, so consider this "something that will eventually be fixed".) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 14:50:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A2437C153 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03488 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:50:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:50:30 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: General update methodology question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was out for a walk, and I thought that the following might be a good idea: 1) locally mirror the FreeBSD CVSROOT (how would I do this?), re-syncing as I felt like it. 2) Pull a working tree out from either a branch (e.g., RELENG_4) or a fixed tag (e.g., RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE). 3) Build and install. 4) As time progresses, cvs up from my local mirror, build and install. BUT, prior to doing that, tag my local copy (e.g., "WORKS_7-26-2000"). The idea here is that if someone does a hasty commit, and I suffer for it, I can easily get back to where I was. Inter alia, this would allow me to set up my own CVSROOT and keep other stuff in there besides FreeBSD, and not have to worry about how my CVSROOT environment variable is set. I am not currently a FreeBSD developer. Were I to become one, would my local tagging cause a problem? If so, I could always separate out stable and current in my local CVSROOT, and be sure to only tag stuff in stable. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 15: 8:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CB237B678 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Received: from db.wireless.net (db.wireless.net [209.75.70.101]) by wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00504; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dbm.wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA52058; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) From: Devin Butterfield To: Josef Karthauser , Christopher Shumway Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:03:47 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: hdiwan@pobox.com, Hasan Diwan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727181315.E5964@pavilion.net> In-Reply-To: <20000727181315.E5964@pavilion.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072715081200.01003@dbm.wireless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 10:18:13PM -0700, Christopher Shumway wrote: > > > > Apply this patch to src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c, it seems to fix it on > > my Sony Viao Z505SX. (Credit goes to Bill Fumerola) > > > > --- channel.c.orig Tue Jun 20 16:42:08 2000 > > +++ channel.c Tue Jul 25 12:10:11 2000 > > @@ -234,7 +234,7 @@ > > b->fl = b->bufsize - b->rl; > > b->underflow = 0; > > } else { > > - /* chn_dmaupdate(c); */ > > + chn_dmaupdate(c); > > } > > } > > It fixed it on mine too - but at the seeming expense of suspend/resume. :( Hmmm....suspend resume seems to be working well for me. Like someone else already mentioned, I too can suspend to ram/disk while playing an mp3 and if I wake it up it will resume playing right where it left off. By the way, what laptop are you running on? -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 15:24:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9175B37B525; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA35273; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: ym g Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? In-Reply-To: <20000727143650.29162.qmail@graffiti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, ym g wrote: > Are there any applications which use this ? A few at the moment, but they're growing. tail -f, and the l0pht-watch ports are the only apps I know of at the moment, both of which achieve dramatic reductions in CPU time (and better performance, for l0pht-watch) due to not having to spin in poll() or select() when watching the file/directory. There's also the py-kqueue port which is a kqueue interface to python. Brian Feldman was working on kqueueing an ircd which should have good performance benefits since poll() is apparently a big bottleneck there too. > Are there plans for any apps like thin/fast [maybe in kernel] > webserver which uses kqueue I've been tinkering with kq'ing thttpd - in fact I have it working (which was trivial), although it's not optimized yet so I don't expect major performance changes - thttpd is still querying each FD individually for status, instead of just using the next ones kq tells it about. I just need to figure out how to benchmark it effectively - httperf is running into client limitations so far. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 15:42: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.accelica.com (w068.z208176151.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.176.151.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38AE037C116 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:41:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@accelica.com) Received: (qmail 58732 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2000 22:42:52 -0000 Received: from merc.eng.accelica.com (10.99.1.13) by 10.99.5.2 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2000 22:42:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:41:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Popoff X-Sender: nick@localhost To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem building 4.1-STABLE today Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsuped STABLE around lunch today and I'm having trouble compiling. The problem I'm seeing is in the install phase when it creates the /usr/include directories. From what I can tell, it deletes most of the directories there, then uses mtree to recreate them before running 'install' to copy all the header files over. Unfortunately, the mtree config file is missing some directories such as /usr/include/dev/ppbus and others, and so install fails when it tries to place files there. I'm basically having to comment out lots of the /usr/src/sys/include Makefile to get it to stop deleting these include directories so I can create them manually. Is anyone else running into this? This is only the second time I've done a buildworld myself so it definitially could be user error. :) I used the cvsup file found in /usr/share/examples/cvsup called '4.x.stable' I believe to get the source. I'm running a Sony Vaio Z505He in case it matters. Any advice would be much appreciated! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 16:24:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42B637C15C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:24:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from areilly@nsw.bigpond.net.au) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-245-92.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.245.92]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00869 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:24:35 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 12507 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jul 2000 23:24:33 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:24:33 +1000 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: ym g , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? Message-ID: <20000728092433.A12228@gurney.reilly.home> References: <20000727143650.29162.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:24:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:24:27PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, ym g wrote: > > Are there plans for any apps like thin/fast [maybe in kernel] > > webserver which uses kqueue > > I've been tinkering with kq'ing thttpd - in fact I have it working (which > was trivial), although it's not optimized yet so I don't expect major > performance changes - thttpd is still querying each FD individually for > status, instead of just using the next ones kq tells it about. I just need > to figure out how to benchmark it effectively - httperf is running into > client limitations so far. The boa HTTP server might be as good a place to start too: it doesn't fork either (except to run CGI scripts). Actually, thttpd sounds pretty similar. I hadn't looked at it before. Have you compared them at all? -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 16:40:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vivaldi.pn.npi.msu.ru (gw.pn.npi.msu.ru [193.232.127.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CBA37B5A2 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from svysh@pn.sinp.msu.ru) Received: from handel.pn.sinp.msu.ru (handel [195.208.223.24]) (authenticated) by vivaldi.pn.npi.msu.ru (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e6RNebp78126 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:40:38 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000728032252.00aa8a30@vivaldi> X-Sender: svysh@vivaldi (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:41:11 +0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Sergei Vyshenski Subject: make buildkernel failed in 4.1-S Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running FreeBSD 4.1-RC () #0: Wed Jul 26 15:36:37 MSD 2000 cvsupped and built ok only 2 days ago. Today cvsupped again because of announced 4.1-RELEASE. "make world" went fine, then I mergemastered, but then "make buildkernel" failed for both GENERIC and my custom kernels at the same point as shown below. Thank you in advance for any comment. Sergei ================================================= ===> if_tap @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include touch opt_devfs.h echo "#define INET 1" > opt_inet.h perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/if_tap/../../net/if_tap.c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_tap/../../net/if_tap.c:67: net/if_tap.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/if_tap. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17: 6:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from altair.origenbio.com (altair.origenbio.com [216.30.62.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332D837C176 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmartin@origen.com) Received: from origen.com (dubhe.origen [192.168.0.5]) by altair.origenbio.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08931; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:06:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dmartin@origen.com) Message-ID: <3980EA5C.9D2A5C61@origen.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:05:16 -0700 From: Richard Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Popoff Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building 4.1-STABLE today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nick Popoff wrote: > I cvsuped STABLE around lunch today and I'm having trouble compiling. > The problem I'm seeing is in the install phase when it creates the > /usr/include directories. > > Is anyone else running into this? Following the instructions in UPDATING, my build fails under /usr/src/sys/modules at 'make install' [staff@altair modules]$ make install ===> agp install -c -o root -g wheel -m 555 agp.ko /modules install: agp.ko: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Whichever directory is up first in the makefile causes the same error. -- Richard Martin dmartin@origen.com OriGen, inc. Tel: +1 512 474 7278 2525 Hartford Rd. Fax: +1 512 708 8522 Austin, TX 78703 http://www.origen.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17:17:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5A337B5E5; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA51567; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:17:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Reilly Cc: ym g , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? In-Reply-To: <20000728092433.A12228@gurney.reilly.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Andrew Reilly wrote: > The boa HTTP server might be as good a place to start too: it > doesn't fork either (except to run CGI scripts). Actually, thttpd > sounds pretty similar. I hadn't looked at it before. Have you > compared them at all? Nope, but the 't' appealed to me as a good one to start with :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17:20:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 995B537C16D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 11828 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Jul 2000 00:19:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 00:19:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:19:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Kernel build problem with buildkernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-710378066-964743558=:11758" Content-ID: X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-710378066-964743558=:11758 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I CVSup'd from 4.0-stable to 4.1-stable last night, the upgrade went well as did the first make buildkernel & installkernel, as advised. I rebooted the system, cleaned up from the make world, blew /usr/obj, etc. I then realized that I forgot to put sound back in the kernel. So I fix my config file and go to rebuild with make buildkernel KERNEL=EPSILON, and it died out. Oddly, if I build a kernel the old way, everything works just fine. I have MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true set in my make.conf, though I tried it without it and it did not change anything. I have attached both my kernel configuration and the error, hopefully someone can help me out. I did do a search on the archives and found several others with exactly this problem though I did not see any resolution in the archives. I just find it odd that the first buildkernel went fine, but then it never worked again. The only thing I can think of is that it needs /usr/obj to be there and populated from a make world, but that would seem silly. 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27 17:27:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BA537C1AB for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:27:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13Hxzh-0000sZ-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:27:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:27:16 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? Message-ID: <20000727202716.D29280@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000728092433.A12228@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 05:17:26PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway probably said: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > The boa HTTP server might be as good a place to start too: it > > doesn't fork either (except to run CGI scripts). Actually, thttpd > > sounds pretty similar. I hadn't looked at it before. Have you > > compared them at all? > > Nope, but the 't' appealed to me as a good one to start with :-) I've been using phttpd on machines where I want to serve a small amount of information via http and don't want to install something major like apache. Modular (literally loaded modules) for the different functions, so if you don't want a particular thing, like cgi, you don't install the module and comment it out of the config file. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17:30:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C29B37C178; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@hand.dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13Hy1R-0000jK-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:29:05 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:29:05 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: Andrew Reilly Cc: Kris Kennaway , ym g , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? Message-ID: <20000728002905.D426@hand.dotat.at> References: <20000727143650.29162.qmail@graffiti.net> <20000728092433.A12228@gurney.reilly.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000728092433.A12228@gurney.reilly.home> Organization: Covalent Technologies, Inc Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Reilly wrote: >On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:24:27PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, ym g wrote: >> > Are there plans for any apps like thin/fast [maybe in kernel] >> > webserver which uses kqueue >> >> I've been tinkering with kq'ing thttpd - in fact I have it working (which >> was trivial), although it's not optimized yet so I don't expect major >> performance changes - thttpd is still querying each FD individually for >> status, instead of just using the next ones kq tells it about. I just need >> to figure out how to benchmark it effectively - httperf is running into >> client limitations so far. > >The boa HTTP server might be as good a place to start too: it >doesn't fork either (except to run CGI scripts). Actually, thttpd >sounds pretty similar. I hadn't looked at it before. Have you >compared them at all? There's a slightly elderly comparison of various web servers hanging off the thttpd web site: http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html It doesn't go up to a very high concurrency which is where the kqueue stuff will really win. I've been meaning to start looking at altering Flash to use kqueue. Flash is much better at handling large data sets (bigger than the amount of RAM) than other select()-based web servers because it has a load of hacks to avoid blocking on disk (lots of stat() cacheing and a combination of mmap and mincore). It was originally derived from thttpd, but unfortunately Flash doesn't have such a free license :-( Tony. -- f.a.n.finch fanf@covalent.net dot@dotat.at 481 therapeutic body-temp sump dunk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17:36:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.accelica.com (w068.z208176151.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [208.176.151.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE08137C187 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@accelica.com) Received: (qmail 60188 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 00:37:15 -0000 Received: from merc.eng.accelica.com (10.99.1.13) by 10.99.5.2 with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 00:37:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Popoff X-Sender: nick@localhost To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Andrew Reilly , ym g , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > > The boa HTTP server might be as good a place to start too: it > > doesn't fork either (except to run CGI scripts). Actually, thttpd > > sounds pretty similar. I hadn't looked at it before. Have you > > compared them at all? > > Nope, but the 't' appealed to me as a good one to start with :-) I looked at thttpd pretty closely about a year ago as a light webserver to handle all static content for a site. It has an excellent reputation as being very fast and very simple. No forking or threads... it's just built around a select() call. The author has some good opinion pieces up explaining why he did it this way. According to Netcraft it is the 6th most popular webserver on the net, right after Zeus. Not bad considering how under-hyped it is. I believe it is public domain software. http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17:50:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E2D37B505 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net. [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04399 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:50:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <3980D8E8.BFAFE490@thehousleys.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:50:48 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Notes on problem with 4-Stable & XFr3386 4.0 & 4.0.1 and loss of mouse. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a series of notes and a couple of fixes. It will ramble, sorry. I installed XFree86 4.0, binary from the web, shortly after it became available. Version 3.3.6 only support 8bit color on my S3 video card. Version 4.0 support full 24bit color but sucked the processor. When in X usage was about 20% and when no it would go up to about 90%. My NIC, initially a DLink 530-TX and then 3COM 3C905-TX, both would loose data and interrupts. The 3Com more gracefully. I am still waiting for the binary for 4.0.1 from XFree86. Not wanting to compile the monster and being a little unsure about the questions. Finally I got fed-up and did it. Ver 4.0.1 found my mouse at /dev/mouse -> /dev/psm0. But a couple of times after switching from X to text and back the mouse would be gone!!!! But editing the mouse protocol from "auto" to "PS/2" seems to have fixed the problem. Also my useage for X sits below 1% for X and text modes. Jim -- Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 17:53:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6457537B5CA; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6S0r4h09948; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:53:04 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: wpaul@freebsd.org Subject: dc0 being really weird Message-ID: <20000727175304.H17222@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this just me, but my dc0 probe and ifconfig are really messed up, fxp is fine on the same box: dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 0xffafa700-0xffafa7f= f irq 9 at device 18.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:00:00:00:00 miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto ukphy1: on miibus0 ukphy1: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy2: on miibus0 ukphy2: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy3: on miibus0 ukphy3: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy4: on miibus0 ukphy4: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy5: on miibus0 ukphy5: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy6: on miibus0 ukphy6: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy7: on miibus0 ukphy7: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy8: on miibus0 ukphy8: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy9: on miibus0 ukphy9: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy10: on miibus0 ukphy10: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy11: on miibus0 ukphy11: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy12: on miibus0 ukphy12: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy13: on miibus0 ukphy13: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy14: on miibus0 ukphy14: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto ukphy15: on miibus0 ukphy15: 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseT4, auto pci0: at 20.0 irq 11 # ifconfig dc0 dc0: flags=3D8802 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00=20 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: no carrier supported media: autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100ba= seTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100base= TX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100bas= eT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autose= lect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP = none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10ba= seT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100= baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100ba= seTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100b= aseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none auto= select 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP <= full-duplex> none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 100baseTX 10= baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseT4 100baseTX 1= 00baseTX 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseTX = 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP none kernel config: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.8 2000/07/20 02:51:02 msmit= h Exp $ machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC maxusers 64 #makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=3D15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! device isp # Qlogic family device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=3D0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when=20 # both sym and ncr are configured device adv0 at isa? device adw device bt0 at isa? device aha0 at isa? device aic0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device amr # AMI MegaRAID device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT li= nes #options PCVT_SCANSET=3D2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ex device ep # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. device an # Xircom Ethernet device xe # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet I'm sorry if I goofed and ommitted anything, please let me know if anything else is needed. thanks, --=20 -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 18:10:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FAB37C17F; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@hand.dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13Hyds-0000ob-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:08:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:08:48 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: Nick Popoff Cc: Kris Kennaway , Andrew Reilly , ym g , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which applications are using kqueue ? Message-ID: <20000728010848.F426@hand.dotat.at> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: Organization: Covalent Technologies, Inc Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nick Popoff wrote: > >According to Netcraft thttpd is the 6th most popular webserver on the >net, right after Zeus. Not bad considering how under-hyped it is. Its high score is because of two UK ISPs which run about 100,000 vhosts each on thttpd. You have to be careful what you read into the public Netcraft survey because it can be misleading. They have some much cleverer and harder-to-fool surveys which you can purchase from them :-) (e.g. counting physical computers rather than vhosts or IP addresses). They run their surveys on FreeBSD. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch fanf@covalent.net dot@dotat.at 458 the delicate dew drops of disgust To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 18:46:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7617237C17C for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13HzDx-0001Ib-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:46:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:46:05 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727214605.A4775@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net>; from msr@elision.org on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:03:43PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mike ryan probably said: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:39:41PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > without this patch, _until_ I suspend the machine, when it stops > > outputting anything, xmms can't play, /dev/audio produces nothing, > my z505hs has the same problem. haven't had a chance to track this > down yet. if pcm were a loadable module we might be able to unload and reload it, a'la OSS, but I can't see any way to reset the audio sub-system. > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18261 > that's against an older 4.0-stable, but it may still apply. With patch's ignore whitespace differences it applies with fuzz. Seems to fix the problem. The only usb issue I'm still having is the floppy drive; unless I have it plugged it when I boot the machine it doesn't give me a scsi disk entry. uhci_device_bulk_transfer: not done, ii=0xc073a620 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a da0 at umass-sim32 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 20KB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present umass0: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 2) disconnected (da0:umass-sim32:0:0:0): lost device (da0:umass-sim32:0:0:0): removing device entry umass0: detached umass0: Y-E DATA FlashBuster-U, rev 1.00/1.28, addr 2 No da0. I get the same result if I don't have it plugged in when I boot the machine. > > If I do anything with the built in fxp interface (including compiling > another patch, same caveat: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18756 Again, patches fine apart from white space and fuzz. Seems to completly solve the problem :) I'm not sure if this will work if you're using the fxp module, I'll test that later. > it appears the suspend partition has to be within the first 8 gigs > of the disk. you're using phdisk.exe to create the suspend > partition, right? Next thing to do is shuffle my partitions around to allow the space in the right place for the suspend partition. Thanks, P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 19:19:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A72437B5C2 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eheurlin@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust169.tnt14.sjc4.da.uu.net [63.42.66.169]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28839; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3980EE22.449220D5@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:21:23 -0700 From: Erik Heurlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel make install fails at agp.ko References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Victor R. Cardona" wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to upgrade my 4.0 RELEASE to 4.0 STABLE cvsuped two days ago. I > am following the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING, and everything works > fine until I run make install in /usr/src/sys/modules. At that point, make > complains that agp.ko does not exist. > > I have seen other messages with this problem, but have not seen an answer. > Am I doing something wrong? > > Please reply to vcardon@siue.edu > > Thanks, > Victor > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I just experienced nearly the same failure with the 'make buildkernel' phase a few minutes ago, but my machine complained that '/usr/src/sys/modules/if_tap.ko' does not exist. Well it doesn't exist in that directory, and apparently wasn't created during the 'buildworld' phase. I cd'd to /usr/src/sys/modules/if_tap/ and typed 'make'. It created 'if_tap.ko' and then I re-started the 'make buildkernel' phase and it finished up fine. Try doing a 'make' in the /usr/src/sys/modules/agp << directory, and then resume your 'buildkernel' from /usr/src. It worked for me. -- Erik Heurlin eheurlin@earthlink.net> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 19:54:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9402237B6AB for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ktsin@acm.org) Received: from sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM ([129.158.72.11]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12895; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acm.org (corona [129.158.138.15]) by sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v1.7) with ESMTP id KAA23261; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:07:07 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <3980EACB.F58F0E3A@acm.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:07:07 +0800 From: Sin Key Teck Organization: No Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Martin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildkernel fails linking module umass References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000726175438.00ab2c20@chasm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you include scbus and da in your config? Here's the device line from GENERIC: device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da kt Charles Martin wrote: > > I have loaded a fresh 4.0-RELEASE, cvsup'd, make buildworld, make > installworld, etc. Now for a new kernel. I do a 'make buildkernel > KERNEL=MYKERNEL'. The build seems to go fine up to this point: > > linking MYKERNEL > umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': > [...lots of undefined references...] > > Does this ring any bells out there? This machine is a laptop: a Sony VAIO > PCG-F490. I should mention that I did a fresh release and install on a > non-laptop and had no problems. Though I don't see how that would affect > the build. > > In both cases I did a mergemaster beforehand, so that my /etc/make.conf > could be up to speed. > > Any help appreciated. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 19:55: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [133.15.188.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A90D37B683 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (localhost.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA53655 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:54:11 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld fails MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by REMI 1.14.2 - =?ISO-8859-4?Q?=22Hokuhoku-=D2?= =?ISO-8859-4?Q?shima=22?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki Date: 28 Jul 2000 11:54:10 +0900 Message-ID: <87lmynge25.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> Lines: 25 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.14.5 (based on Gnus v5.8.7) REMI/1.14.2 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Hokuhoku-=D2shima?=) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Yesterday and Today, I cvsupped and ran 'make buildworld' in /usr/src. After several minutes, I always see an error: cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../../../../contrib/binutils/libiberty/strerror.c -o strerror.o /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../../../../contrib/binutils/libiberty/strerror.c:461: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' /usr/include/stdio.h:225: previous declaration of `sys_errlist' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../../../../contrib/binutils/libiberty/strerror.c: In function `init_error_tables': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/../../../../contrib/binutils/libiberty/strerror.c:546:warning: assignment of read-only variable `sys_nerr' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty. Is this just MY problem? My system is now, $ uname -a FreeBSD tamy.tutrp.tut.ac.jp 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jul 4 13:54:36 JST 2000 root@tamy.tutrp.tut.ac.jp:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TAMY4 i386 Thanks. -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 20:20:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A15B37B718 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:20:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA59066; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:21:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: David Malone Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <200007271825.aa11185@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What you're doing sounds like a good candidate for help from http://www.infrastructures.org. It mentions cvsup in this role in the LISA '98 paper. Read it. On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, David Malone wrote: >> CVSup can also be used for general-purpose mirroring of arbitrary >> files from one place to another. It preserves hard links, symlinks, >> device nodes, etc. > >Indeed - we did look at it as an option. Cvsup is dead nice, but I >don't think it did what we wanted. > > 1) We already had ssh for authentication and it wasn't > clear if there was a way to get cvsup to use ssh > for authentication. (It's pretty obvious how to > get it to work for transport). > > 2) Cvsupd comes with warnings about not running it as root, > which we'd need to. (We use rdist for cloning /usr > and /usr/local complete with non-world-readable > files). > > 3) I wasn't sure if you can adjust what gets pushed out to > clients from a central config file. We have per > machine exceptions. > > 4) It doesn't read distfiles ;-) > >While I'm thinking of it, I also noticed a problem with cvsup's >GUI. I use tvtwm as a window manager and use ctrl+arrow keys to >move around my desktop. However this doesn't work if the mouse is >pointing into the cvsup window. I presume this is a modula 3 problem, >but I thought you might know what was going on. > > David. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 20:45:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [133.15.188.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A52137B597 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (localhost.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id MAA17982 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:44:57 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld fails References: <87lmynge25.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by REMI 1.14.2 - =?ISO-8859-4?Q?=22Hokuhoku-=D2?= =?ISO-8859-4?Q?shima=22?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki Date: 28 Jul 2000 12:44:56 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87lmynge25.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> (NAKAJI Hiroyuki's message of "28 Jul 2000 05:00:52 +0200") Message-ID: <87g0ouhq9z.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> Lines: 9 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.14.5 (based on Gnus v5.8.7) REMI/1.14.2 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Hokuhoku-=D2shima?=) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> In <87lmynge25.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> >>>>> nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp (NAKAJI Hiroyuki) wrote: nakaji> Yesterday and Today, I cvsupped and ran 'make buildworld' in nakaji> /usr/src. After several minutes, I always see an error: This error occurs in '>>> stage 3: cross tools'. -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 20:53: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wilson.acpub.duke.edu (wilson.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3DC37B525 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:53:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by wilson.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id XAA17609; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03765 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:53:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:53:01 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000727235301.C3694@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> <20000727214605.A4775@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000727214605.A4775@pir.net>; from pir@pir.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 09:46:05PM -0400 X-Organization: House of Schmutzli X-Kitties: Bitty Maya CJ Keisha Jacob X-Hound: Bob X-OS-OF-Choice: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe stated: : mike ryan probably said: : > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:39:41PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: : > > without this patch, _until_ I suspend the machine, when it stops : > > outputting anything, xmms can't play, /dev/audio produces nothing, : > my z505hs has the same problem. haven't had a chance to track this : > down yet. : : if pcm were a loadable module we might be able to unload and reload it, : a'la OSS, but I can't see any way to reset the audio sub-system. It is in -current ... just not sure if it is unloadable :) : > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18261 : > that's against an older 4.0-stable, but it may still apply. : : With patch's ignore whitespace differences it applies with fuzz. : Seems to fix the problem. : : The only usb issue I'm still having is the floppy drive; unless I have : it plugged it when I boot the machine it doesn't give me a scsi disk : entry. : : : : uhci_device_bulk_transfer: not done, ii=0xc073a620 : Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a : da0 at umass-sim32 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 : da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device : da0: 20KB/s transfers : da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present : umass0: at uhub0 port 2 (addr 2) disconnected : (da0:umass-sim32:0:0:0): lost device : (da0:umass-sim32:0:0:0): removing device entry : : : : umass0: detached : umass0: Y-E DATA FlashBuster-U, rev 1.00/1.28, addr 2 : : No da0. I get the same result if I don't have it plugged in when I : boot the machine. Hmmm... is usbd running? is it waking up on the resume? : Next thing to do is shuffle my partitions around to allow the space in : the right place for the suspend partition. Yep. Good luck with that ... too bad partition magic doesn't grok FreeBSD partitions (or too bad there is no native tool for moving partitions around ). -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 21:15:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [133.15.188.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A7737B9FB for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp) Received: from nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (localhost.tutrp.tut.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id NAA44971; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:13:56 +0900 (JST) To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld fails References: <87lmynge25.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> <20000727234902.B3694@stat.Duke.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by REMI 1.14.2 - =?ISO-8859-4?Q?=22Hokuhoku-=D2?= =?ISO-8859-4?Q?shima=22?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: NAKAJI Hiroyuki Date: 28 Jul 2000 13:13:56 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20000727234902.B3694@stat.Duke.EDU> (Sean O'Connell's message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:49:02 -0400") Message-ID: <87aef2hoxn.fsf@nakaji.tutrp.tut.ac.jp> Lines: 11 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.14.5 (based on Gnus v5.8.7) REMI/1.14.2 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Hokuhoku-=D2shima?=) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> In <20000727234902.B3694@stat.Duke.EDU> >>>>> "Sean O'Connell" wrote: Sean> Are you building with -DNOCLEANDIR? Ah, yes. I deleted -DNOCLEANDIR from my buildworld script and am rebuilding world. Thank you. -- NAKAJI Hiroyuki To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 21:16:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BCB37C1A4 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26632; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:16:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16196; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:16:05 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200007280416.OAA16196@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: behanna@zbzoom.net Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: General update methodology question In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:50:30 -0400. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:16:05 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 4) As time progresses, cvs up from my local mirror, build and > install. BUT, prior to doing that, tag my local copy > (e.g., "WORKS_7-26-2000"). The idea here is that if someone > does a hasty commit, and I suffer for it, I can easily get > back to where I was. Except that (IIUC) next time you cvsup-d the repository, your local tag would be deleted. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 21:53:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0C037B6D7 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01005; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA25263; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007280453.VAA25263@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <200007271825.aa11185@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200007271825.aa11185@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200007271825.aa11185@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>, David Malone wrote: > Indeed - we did look at it as an option. Cvsup is dead nice, but I > don't think it did what we wanted. > > 1) We already had ssh for authentication and it wasn't > clear if there was a way to get cvsup to use ssh > for authentication. (It's pretty obvious how to > get it to work for transport). So you want to do ssh-style authentication, but not actually tunnel the connection through ssh -- is that what you mean? You can force ssh authentication if you tunnel the connection through it, because you can make the cvsupd server bind only to localhost. But no, ssh authentication standing alone isn't supported currently. (Does _anything_ support that?) I should mention that ssh does support a challenge-response authentication which I believe to be strong. It's not public key, though. It relies on a shared secret. > 2) Cvsupd comes with warnings about not running it as root, > which we'd need to. (We use rdist for cloning /usr > and /usr/local complete with non-world-readable > files). Well, I should tone down that warning, because there is no risk as far as I know. The server definitely can't be made to corrupt any files on its host machine, because it quite simply doesn't open any files for writing. The only possible risk would be if there were a way to trick cvsupd into sending out files which it wasn't configured to send. But it specifically checks for stuff like that and takes care never to send anything from outside its configured area. I have certainly never gotten any reports of exploits. In some ways, cvsupd is safer than rdist or rsync. That's because it's written in Modula-3, which literally makes it impossible to code dangling pointers or stack overflow exploits. They simply cannot be expressed in the language. > 3) I wasn't sure if you can adjust what gets pushed out to > clients from a central config file. We have per > machine exceptions. Actually I am testing just that sort of feature now, in preparation for the next release. :-) > 4) It doesn't read distfiles ;-) Pbltpbltpblt! Rdist doesn't read supfiles. :-) > While I'm thinking of it, I also noticed a problem with cvsup's > GUI. I use tvtwm as a window manager and use ctrl+arrow keys to > move around my desktop. However this doesn't work if the mouse is > pointing into the cvsup window. I presume this is a modula 3 problem, > but I thought you might know what was going on. Yep, it's some strange interaction between some window managers and the M3 graphics library. It's mentioned in the BUGS section of cvsup(1). John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 22: 2: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26AC37B587 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djkanter@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA27238 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (coconut-28-028048.nuts.nwu.edu [165.124.28.48]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xmaa26900; Fri, 28 Jul 00 00:01:43 -0500 Received: (from david@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA14988 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:31:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:31:51 -0500 From: "David J. Kanter" To: FreeBSD stable Subject: Uninstalling "games" possible Message-ID: <20000727213151.A14964@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i X-Organization: Northwestern University X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have no use for the games branch, but now realize that I've installed it in the past with the src-all cvsup file. What's the best way, if there is one, of deleting the games? If I remove the src-games part of the cvsup file and make world, will that wipe out all the installed game binaries? -- David Kanter djkanter@northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 22: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecky.it.northwestern.edu (hecky.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B931137B509 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djkanter@northwestern.edu) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by hecky.it.northwestern.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA27249 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:01:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (coconut-28-028048.nuts.nwu.edu [165.124.28.48]) by hecky.acns.nwu.edu via smap (V2.0) id xmac26900; Fri, 28 Jul 00 00:01:45 -0500 Received: (from david@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA14962 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:26:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:26:22 -0500 From: "David J. Kanter" To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: Kernel build problem with buildkernel Message-ID: <20000727212622.B14897@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 08:19:44PM -0400 X-Organization: Northwestern University X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 08:19:44PM -0400, Matt Heckaman wrote: > I then > realized that I forgot to put sound back in the kernel. So I fix my config > file and go to rebuild with make buildkernel KERNEL=EPSILON, and it died > out. Oddly, if I build a kernel the old way, everything works just fine. ---end quoted text--- From my understanding, the make buildkernel process needs the /usr/obj that you blew away. That's probably why it failed. But, again from my understanding, if you just wanted to add sound support you could rebuild the kernel the old way, so long as the kernel you just built was synchronized with the sources (which you did). -- David Kanter djkanter@northwestern.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 22: 5:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D6737B58E; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:05:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA12556; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:05:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Oliver Schonefeld Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jlemon@freebsd.org, gibbs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.1-STABLE: incompatability ida <-> ahc In-Reply-To: <20000727223206.A23116@frizzantino.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Oliver Schonefeld wrote: > Therefore there must be some incompatabilty between the ida and the > ahc driver. Wow, I forgot that I was supposed to rewrite the resource management code for the EISA subsystem. The current stuff isn't all that pretty. I can't put my finger on the bug but I know its in there. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 27 22:43:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smartie.braingarage.com (m206-51.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.206.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C7F37B50D for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@braingarage.com) Received: from braingarage.com (genius.braingarage.com [192.168.1.3]) by smartie.braingarage.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA45731 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@braingarage.com) Message-ID: <39811DC0.4A9917A4@braingarage.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:44:32 -0700 From: Robert Bowen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel compile fails at agp_if.h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Whenever I have tried to make a new kernel for the past two days the build dies in /src/sys/modules/agp What am I doing wrong? It does the same thing if I cd /usr/src/sys/modues/agp/ and do a "make" Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 1:49:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fingers.noc.uunet.co.za (fingers.noc.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C062D37C29F for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:49:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robh@fingers.noc.uunet.co.za) Received: from robh (helo=localhost) by fingers.noc.uunet.co.za with local-smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13I5pp-0009ml-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:49:37 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:49:35 +0200 (SAST) From: fingers X-Sender: robh@fingers.noc.uunet.co.za To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: tx transmission errors with xl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I saw a few months ago that if I got errors like these: Jul 28 10:41:15 fingers /kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 600 bytes Jul 28 10:41:15 fingers /kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 600 bytes I could increase: #define XL_MIN_FRAMELEN 300 in if_xlreg.h and rebuild kernel. I would have thought that this would have been fixed by now? Upping it to 300 seemed to be sufficient, but I've now had to up it to 600. My question is, is this a "tweak" that I need to do every time after I rebuild my kernel, or is this a problem with the driver? I've searched the archives at www.freebsd.org/search and have found many posts in the lists about this, but no definitive answer. Some blamed it on a cable, some suggested a device hogging the bus etc. Regards --Rob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 2:27: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C2C37B8E3 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (IDENT:antony@pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18834 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:50:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3981433C.C15E0B87@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:24:28 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0-test4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: CVSupping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To compile the HPFS module, I have to comment out two lines in src/sys/fs/hpfs/hpfs_vnops.c Every time I cvsup, these changes get blasted. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 2:55:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0413C37C296 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from bell.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 28 Jul 2000 10:55:39 +0100 (BST) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:53:19 PDT." <200007280453.VAA25263@vashon.polstra.com> X-Request-Do: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:55:39 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <200007281055.aa78980@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So you want to do ssh-style authentication, but not actually tunnel > the connection through ssh -- is that what you mean? You can force > ssh authentication if you tunnel the connection through it, because > you can make the cvsupd server bind only to localhost. Basically what we want is something like RsaRhosts - if you trust root@remote.machine you can be sure about the username of the person at the far end. Ordinary users have shell access to both the server machine and the clients, and we don't want users to be able to cvsup the unreadable files so we need to know it's root@remote.machine we're talking to. > I should mention that ssh does support a challenge-response ^^^ I presume you mean cvsup here. > authentication which I believe to be strong. It's not public key, > though. It relies on a shared secret. It should be suitable for this, but it means abother set of secrets to have to manage. All the machines have ssh keypairs and if some can spoof IP address and steal our ssh keypairs we're already shafted. > Well, I should tone down that warning, because there is no risk as > far as I know. I didn't think the warning was likely to be a serious issue, but while the warning is there people are likely to be reluctant to use it incase they get a "Well - the man page says you shouldn't do that", if things do wrong. > > 3) I wasn't sure if you can adjust what gets pushed out to > > clients from a central config file. We have per > > machine exceptions. > Actually I am testing just that sort of feature now, in preparation > for the next release. :-) Cool - sounds useful. How far through this are you? If you're interested I can send you some examples of how we use per-machine exceptions here, which might give you some ideas. > > 4) It doesn't read distfiles ;-) > Pbltpbltpblt! Rdist doesn't read supfiles. :-) Someday, when I have lots of time, I'll write a converter which does rdist<->rsync<->cvsup. > Yep, it's some strange interaction between some window managers and > the M3 graphics library. It's mentioned in the BUGS section of > cvsup(1). I'll try to find a similar workaround for tvtwm - should I let you know if I find one? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 3:11:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apotheosis.org.za (apotheosis.org.za [137.158.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B5D37B8E3 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 03:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwest@uct.ac.za) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:07:38 +0200 From: Matthew West To: Robert Bowen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel compile fails at agp_if.h Message-ID: <20000728120738.A19059@apotheosis.org.za> References: <39811DC0.4A9917A4@braingarage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <39811DC0.4A9917A4@braingarage.com>; from "Robert Bowen" on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:44:32PM Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use the "make buildkernel" method described in /usr/src/UPDATING. -- mwest@uct.ac.za On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 10:44:32PM -0700, Robert Bowen wrote: > Whenever I have tried to make a new kernel for the past two days the > build dies in /src/sys/modules/agp > > What am I doing wrong? It does the same thing if I cd > /usr/src/sys/modues/agp/ and do a "make" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 4:35: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A001F37BB70 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 2292 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 11:34:52 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 11:34:52 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:36:17 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, my NAT gateway (a way overpowered K6-2 450 with 128 MB RAM running 4-STABLE as of yesterday) has a serious problem: I'm using Realtek 8139 NICs (which aren't the fastest for 100mbit but normally still put 800 kbyte/s through my 10 mbit lan) together with a 10 Mbit hub and if I try to download something from the local Apache I get transfer rates between 0.2 and 6kbyte/s. Same goes for scp but ssh works as always. However, downloading from the internet is way faster (up to the 48 kbyte/s which are realistic for a 512 connection) as well as 'wget localhost/something'. Load during all of the transfers was 0.00. What's going on here? Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 4:46: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D7437B965 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (IDENT:antony@pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26153 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:09:30 +0100 Message-ID: <398163CB.B074B9DA@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:43:23 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.4.0-test4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSupping References: <3981433C.C15E0B87@abacus.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Antony T Curtis wrote: > > To compile the HPFS module, I have to comment out two lines in > src/sys/fs/hpfs/hpfs_vnops.c > > Every time I cvsup, these changes get blasted. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Also, the sound didn't work properly on a Tosh SP4200 notebook... My diffs are *** src/sys/fs/hpfs/hpfs_vnops.c.orig Thu Jul 27 23:30:36 2000 --- src/sys/fs/hpfs/hpfs_vnops.c Thu Jul 27 23:32:49 2000 *************** *** 86,90 **** static int hpfs_create __P((struct vop_create_args *)); static int hpfs_remove __P((struct vop_remove_args *)); - static int hpfs_abortop __P((struct vop_abortop_args *)); static int hpfs_bmap __P((struct vop_bmap_args *ap)); #if defined(__FreeBSD__) --- 86,89 ---- *************** *** 92,95 **** --- 91,96 ---- static int hpfs_putpages __P((struct vop_putpages_args *)); static int hpfs_fsync __P((struct vop_fsync_args *ap)); + #else + static int hpfs_abortop __P((struct vop_abortop_args *)) #endif static int hpfs_pathconf __P((struct vop_pathconf_args *ap)); *************** *** 1379,1383 **** { &vop_create_desc, (vop_t *)hpfs_create }, { &vop_remove_desc, (vop_t *)hpfs_remove }, - { &vop_abortop_desc, (vop_t *)hpfs_abortop }, { &vop_islocked_desc, (vop_t *)vop_stdislocked }, { &vop_unlock_desc, (vop_t *)vop_stdunlock }, --- 1380,1383 ---- *** src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ds1.c.orig Thu Jul 27 23:36:28 2000 --- src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ds1.c Thu Jul 27 23:35:43 2000 *************** *** 193,197 **** static pcmchan_caps ds_playcaps = { 4000, 96000, ! AFMT_STEREO | AFMT_U8 | AFMT_S16_LE, AFMT_STEREO | AFMT_S16_LE }; --- 193,197 ---- static pcmchan_caps ds_playcaps = { 4000, 96000, ! AFMT_STEREO | AFMT_S8 | AFMT_S16_LE, AFMT_STEREO | AFMT_S16_LE }; *************** *** 506,510 **** ch->channel = c; ch->dir = dir; ! ch->fmt = AFMT_U8; ch->spd = 8000; ch->run = 0; --- 506,510 ---- ch->channel = c; ch->dir = dir; ! ch->fmt = AFMT_S8; ch->spd = 8000; ch->run = 0; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 5:10:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D101737BA7C for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA05049; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:10:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-72.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.72) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma005044; Fri Jul 28 07:09:52 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000728063518.00ac4580@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:08:01 -0500 To: "David J. Kanter" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Uninstalling "games" possible Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000727213151.A14964@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:31 PM 7/27/00 -0500, David J. Kanter wrote: >I have no use for the games branch, but now realize that I've installed it >in the past with the src-all cvsup file. What's the best way, if there is >one, of deleting the games? rm -r /usr/games /var/games Mind that 'make installworld' will be recreate the tree. >If I remove the src-games part of the cvsup file and make world, will that >wipe out all the installed game binaries? NOGAMES=true will only not build them. Removal is *never* done automagically. Perhaps some day there will be a truly modular install method. Most likely only for binary, so source builds will always require manual removal. With NOGAMES set you can remove the entries from /etc/mtree/BSD.(usr|var).dist. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 5:15:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0EA37B965 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 05:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.causticlabs.com (unknown [207.192.76.217]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EE99B1C; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:15:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.causticlabs.com To: Antony T Curtis Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSupping In-Reply-To: <3981433C.C15E0B87@abacus.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Antony T Curtis wrote: > > To compile the HPFS module, I have to comment out two lines in > src/sys/fs/hpfs/hpfs_vnops.c > > Every time I cvsup, these changes get blasted. > Yes, that is how CVSup works. See cvsup(1) WRT refuse files and /usr/share/examples/cvsup/refuse to prevent changes from getting blasted. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 6: 4: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (elmls01.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6389C37C1DC for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rlyons@mediaone.net) Received: from mediaone.net (rm01-24-131-190-142.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.190.142]) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29398 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:07:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:01:46 -0500 From: Roy Lyons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: outgoing IP is fscking slow... References: <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG An interesting addendum to this. I experience a similar issue but I have more of an issue of delay in establishment of a connection. its almost as if nat is snaggin the packets and with gets confused or it runs it through a long long ruleset and finally comes to the end and says "Oh, this belongs to that nic doesnt it - well I'll be damned!" Of course I didnt go through the natd source before shooting my mouth off, but I am goin on little sleep and will use that as my excuse :-). Either way, once established it is slower than I would have expected, but is decent, its just the 25 seconds between when I tell my client to telnet to the server and when the the server sends back a login prompt that kills me :-) (they are both on the same 10/100 switch) I have a feeling the 2 issues might be related (unless theres another networking issue here - one computer in the other end of the house has a max rate of 15k download speed cause the network cable is so long...) Roy Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hello, > my NAT gateway (a way overpowered K6-2 450 with 128 MB RAM running > 4-STABLE as of yesterday) has a serious problem: I'm using Realtek > 8139 NICs (which aren't the fastest for 100mbit but normally still put > 800 kbyte/s through my 10 mbit lan) together with a 10 Mbit hub and if I > try to download something from the local Apache I get transfer rates between > 0.2 and 6kbyte/s. Same goes for scp but ssh works as always. > However, downloading from the internet is way faster (up to the > 48 kbyte/s which are realistic for a 512 connection) as well as > 'wget localhost/something'. Load during all of the transfers was 0.00. > > What's going on here? > > > > Best regards, > Gabriel > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 6:16: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86E8D37BC2D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 3097 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 13:15:56 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 13:15:56 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:17:22 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> To: Roy Lyons Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... In-reply-To: <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> References: <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > An interesting addendum to this. I experience a similar issue but I have more > of an issue of delay in establishment of a connection. its almost as if nat is > snaggin the packets and with gets confused or it runs it through a long long > ruleset and finally comes to the end and says "Oh, this belongs to that nic > doesnt it - well I'll be damned!" Of course I didnt go through the natd source > before shooting my mouth off, but I am goin on little sleep and will use that as > my excuse :-). I'm pretty sure it's not NATd which is causing my trouble as I killed it and removed the divert rule from ipfw and the problem persists. I've also checked ipfw rules several times and there were always just the rules that NATd requires and one anti spoof rule. The strangest thing about is that NFS runs easily at 600kbyte/s so I wouldn't say it's a cable issue. I'm currently rebuilding world and the kernel to see if there were some corrupted libs or something like this. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 6:25:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69A337C254 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01240; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:24:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:19:43 -0400 To: Gabriel Ambuehl From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> References: <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:17 PM 7/28/2000 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: >I'm pretty sure it's not NATd which is causing my trouble as I killed >it and removed the divert rule from ipfw and the problem persists. >I've also checked ipfw rules several times and there were always >just the rules that NATd requires and one anti spoof rule. The >strangest thing about is that NFS runs easily at 600kbyte/s so >I wouldn't say it's a cable issue. I'm currently rebuilding world and >the kernel to see if there were some corrupted libs or something like >this. Try explicitly setting your media options to half duplex on the NIC. ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 6:31:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.root-servers.ch (alpha.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADF3B37C1D3 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:31:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 3240 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 13:31:49 -0000 Received: from client98-229.hispeed.ch (HELO 10.2.2.100) (62.2.98.229) by ns1.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 13:31:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:33:14 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45 Beta/6) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <176682276912.20000728153314@buz.ch> To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[3]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... In-reply-To: <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> References: <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Mike, Friday, July 28, 2000, 3:19:43 PM, you wrote: > Try explicitly setting your media options to half duplex on the NIC. > ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP Seems like you're my saviour... Though I can't explain why NFS was working at full speed. Anyway, thanks a lot. Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 6:36:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC67937C20B for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:36:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13IAIv-000FzM-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:35:57 +0200 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:35:57 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <20000728153557.A61427@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <39806E0B.E1A937CA@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39806E0B.E1A937CA@math.missouri.edu>; from stephen@math.missouri.edu on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:14:51PM -0500 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2000-07-27 (12:14), Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > As the one who started this thread - now that the handbook tells > release people to do the config method, I am very happy. Your premise was wrong, though. 'make buildkernel' should work for people without a populated /usr/obj. It might not, but it should. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 6:53: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA8637BF24 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA01064; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:52:01 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA99713; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:48:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007281348.JAA99713@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:48:26 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: rdist and pam To: David Malone Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200007281055.aa78980@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28 Jul, David Malone wrote: = > So you want to do ssh-style authentication, but not actually tunnel = > the connection through ssh -- is that what you mean? You can force = > ssh authentication if you tunnel the connection through it, because = > you can make the cvsupd server bind only to localhost. = = Basically what we want is something like RsaRhosts - if you trust = root@remote.machine you can be sure about the username of the person = at the far end. Ordinary users have shell access to both the server = machine and the clients, and we don't want users to be able to cvsup = the unreadable files so we need to know it's root@remote.machine we're = talking to. What you should, probably, use is rdist6 over ssh with ssh compression disabled. It is the compression, not the encryption that kills the throughput on fast networks. Having the traffic encrypted is better anyway for the long run, although you can build ssh with the cypher ``none'' available and use it... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 7:14: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [195.173.172.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747AD37C225 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13IAtc-000MeM-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:13:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:13:52 +0100 From: Mike Bristow To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: General update methodology question Message-ID: <20000728151352.A87026@lindt.urgle.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 05:50:30PM -0400 X-Rated: assassination, KGB, Soviet Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 05:50:30PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > I was out for a walk, and I thought that the following might be > a good idea: > > 1) locally mirror the FreeBSD CVSROOT (how would I do this?), > re-syncing as I felt like it. use cvsup and /usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile. > > 2) Pull a working tree out from either a branch (e.g., > RELENG_4) or a fixed tag (e.g., RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE). > > 3) Build and install. > > 4) As time progresses, cvs up from my local mirror, build and > install. BUT, prior to doing that, tag my local copy > (e.g., "WORKS_7-26-2000"). The idea here is that if someone > does a hasty commit, and I suffer for it, I can easily get > back to where I was. This won't work as every time you reimport the upstream source, you'll loose your local tags. The way I'd do it is: pull the freebsd CVS repository into a local mirror build, test, etc, but don't modify When you're happy do something like: cd ~/tmp cvs -d /cvs/freebsd-org-mirror export src cd src cvs -d /cvs/local-repository import freebsd/src FREEBSD CURRENT-20000728 [ resolve conflicts; probably only neccessary if you've modified things yourself, which should (of course) get send-pr'ed and applied to your repository, not the mirror of freebsd's ] I'm sure that there are problems with this approach (I haven't done this myself or even thought it through properly) but I would expect that it would be a good starting point. In particular, the stable/current split isn't considered much here. Of course I'd be interested in hearing any lurking CVS guru's thoughts on the matter ;-) -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 7:36:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.egate.net (as2.dm.egate.net [216.235.1.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C040C37B8E0 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buff@pobox.com) Received: from localhost (buff@localhost) by odin.egate.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11765; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:36:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: odin.egate.net: buff owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:35:59 -0400 (EDT) From: William Denton X-Sender: buff@odin.egate.net To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems In-Reply-To: <200007271302.JAA10433@misha.privatelabs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27 July 2000, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: : Congratulations! Now, could someone explain why is it a bad idea to : commit this change -- evidently it was already there but got commented : out? The new release (which, apparently, does not have this) will : still mal-function for many people. Are we going to be circulating : this patches like Linux world does? Will this be committed? I have the same problems as the others and would rather not edit my local copy of the source code. It's inelegant. I'm glad the fix was found so soon, of course. Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8: 0:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.slashnet.org (area51.slashnet.org [208.222.214.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0516537C1FD; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smkelly@zombie.org) Received: from edgemaster.zombie.org (cx497943-c.omhaw1.ne.home.com [24.7.36.238]) by area51.slashnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC39B14D480; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by edgemaster.zombie.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0DDF39884; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:00:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:00:18 -0500 From: Sean Kelly To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Console Message-ID: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using FreeBSD as a desktop workstation at work. It is very nice and productive, but I have one problem. We have many HP/UX machines, and I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be close, but I still have some horrid drawing errors. Same with remote work on SunOS 5.7. On SunOS, the 'more' command doesn't even scroll properly. I'd be interrested to know if anybody knows of a terminal type that can be used on HP/UX 10.20, SunOS 5.7, and HP/UX 11 that works perfectly with the FreeBSD 4-STABLE console. Thanks. -- Sean Kelly or PGP KeyID: 4AC781C7 http://www.sean-kelly.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:21:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.comrax.com (dns.comrax.com [194.90.246.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3A637C261; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noor@comrax.com) Received: from NOOR (unknown [156.27.243.27]) by dns.comrax.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 975431C994; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:20:58 +0300 (IDT) From: "Noor Dawod" To: "Sean Kelly" , , Subject: RE: FreeBSD Console Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:18:55 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried vt100 and vt220? Noor -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Sean Kelly Sent: eai ueue 28 eaie 2000 17:00 To: questions@freebsd.org; stable@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Console I am using FreeBSD as a desktop workstation at work. It is very nice and productive, but I have one problem. We have many HP/UX machines, and I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be close, but I still have some horrid drawing errors. Same with remote work on SunOS 5.7. On SunOS, the 'more' command doesn't even scroll properly. I'd be interrested to know if anybody knows of a terminal type that can be used on HP/UX 10.20, SunOS 5.7, and HP/UX 11 that works perfectly with the FreeBSD 4-STABLE console. Thanks. -- Sean Kelly or PGP KeyID: 4AC781C7 http://www.sean-kelly.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:22:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE04337C233 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08379 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:22:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:22:32 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: behanna@zbzoom.net To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Video card support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't remember if it was this list on which I saw this discussion, or if it was hackers. Anyway, I looked at xfree86.org today, and noticed that there is accelerated support for ATI Mach64 and for NVIDIA TNT2 and GeForce256 boards, as well as many others. Is there some reason why this isn't "good enough," or do we really need actual drivers for these boards to get at their extra-nifty features (e.g., hardware backface culling, fog, bump maps, etc.)? -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:23:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5A237B74A for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13IByy-0005qz-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:23:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:23:28 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console Message-ID: <20000728112327.A22425@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org>; from smkelly@zombie.org on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean Kelly probably said: > SunOS 5.7. On SunOS, the 'more' command doesn't even scroll properly. > I'd be interrested to know if anybody knows of a terminal type that > can be used on HP/UX 10.20, SunOS 5.7, and HP/UX 11 that works perfectly > with the FreeBSD 4-STABLE console. On my Solaris boxes at386 works. I usually do; cd /usr/share/lib/terminfo/c; ln -s ../a/at386 cons25 P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:25:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.superhero.org (207-55-167-112.dhc.net [207.55.167.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB39437C1E6 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:25:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from needo@pegasus.superhero.org) Received: (qmail 6931 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Jul 2000 15:25:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:25:37 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ppp.conf question Message-ID: <20000728102537.A6014@superhero.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Call me old fashioned but I still use ppp to handle the firewall and NAT for my FreeBSD servers. Lately I've been trying to get it to bond to the second channel on the ISDN line for the 128k connect. I cant seem to find the directive for doing this in FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE. Any ideas or documentation you may point me at will be greatly appreciated. -- Erich Zigler Sr. System Administrator Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:27:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from medianstrip.net (medianstrip.net [206.113.38.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C53437C23D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msr@elision.org) Received: by medianstrip.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BD5B458E5; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:27:37 -0400 From: mike ryan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000728112737.A71464@medianstrip.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net>; from msr@elision.org on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:03:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:03:43PM -0400, mike ryan wrote: > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 12:39:41PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > My Z505HS, a newer vaio, has the yamaha chipset which works fine > > without this patch, _until_ I suspend the machine, when it stops > > outputting anything, xmms can't play, /dev/audio produces nothing, > > etc. > > my z505hs has the same problem. try this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20255 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:29: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB7137C236 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13IC4G-0005tI-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:28:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:28:56 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000728112856.B22425@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> <20000727214605.A4775@pir.net> <20000727235301.C3694@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000727235301.C3694@stat.Duke.EDU>; from sean@stat.Duke.EDU on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 11:53:01PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean O'Connell probably said: > Peter Radcliffe stated: > : if pcm were a loadable module we might be able to unload and reload it, > : a'la OSS, but I can't see any way to reset the audio sub-system. > It is in -current ... just not sure if it is unloadable :) Hrrrm. I still can't find any way to reset the audio subsystem. > : The only usb issue I'm still having is the floppy drive; unless I have > : it plugged it when I boot the machine it doesn't give me a scsi disk > : entry. > > Hmmm... is usbd running? is it waking up on the resume? Yes and yes. The umass0 lines are being printed by usbd. Killing usbd and restarting it doesn't change the behavior. This looks like a bug in the driver for the floppy drive, since a usb mouse works fine before or after a suspend. Something not getting initialised when the bios doesn't init the floppy at boot time ? (which the bios will have to do, since it has to try to boot from the usb floppy). > Yep. Good luck with that ... too bad partition magic doesn't grok > FreeBSD partitions (or too bad there is no native tool for moving > partitions around ). Partitions all shuffled. I have a (thanks to mike's pointer) correctly created suspend to disk partition which works fine with FreeBSD (and even suspends/resumes a lot faster than my 128Mb 505TR did). The only two issues left are the usb floppy when it isn't initialised by the bios and the audio failing after a resume. So, any reason why those usb and fxp patches havn't been merged ? Can some other people test them to check they don't break other laptops/desktops ? They don't seem to affect the fxp interface on my desktop box here (I havn't set up usb on that machine). Thanks, Peter. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:29:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from markl.com (markl.com [209.69.36.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71D37C236; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from squirrel@hammis.com) Received: from localhost (squirrel@localhost) by markl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA56974; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:28:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from squirrel@hammis.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Hammis X-Sender: squirrel@markl.com To: Sean Kelly Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console In-Reply-To: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have TERM=vt100 set in the .profiles of my remote machines for that same problem. I run KDE on 4.0-STABLE and connect to Sun, HP, and IBM boxes all day long. Setting the envrionment variable on the remote side at login seems to work well for me, as I've had no problems with more, vi, or any other programs since. Hope this helps. --Damon _ _ |__/| .~ ~. /o=o'`./ .' {o__, \ { / . . ) \ `-` '-' \ } .( _( )_.' '---.~_ _ _| On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Sean Kelly wrote: > I am using FreeBSD as a desktop workstation at work. It is very nice > and productive, but I have one problem. We have many HP/UX machines, and > I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on > HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be close, > but I still have some horrid drawing errors. Same with remote work on > SunOS 5.7. On SunOS, the 'more' command doesn't even scroll properly. > I'd be interrested to know if anybody knows of a terminal type that > can be used on HP/UX 10.20, SunOS 5.7, and HP/UX 11 that works perfectly > with the FreeBSD 4-STABLE console. > > Thanks. > > -- > Sean Kelly or > PGP KeyID: 4AC781C7 http://www.sean-kelly.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:37:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.1.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBFD37C25F for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:36:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from l@binkyware.com) Received: from x (CPE-144-132-43-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.43.152]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA02107; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:35:21 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000729013119.00a89920@mail.csoft.net> X-Sender: l@mail.csoft.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:35:30 +1000 To: Mike Tancsa , Gabriel Ambuehl From: Chris Pauly Subject: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> References: <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:19 28/07/2000 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: >At 03:17 PM 7/28/2000 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: >>I'm pretty sure it's not NATd which is causing my trouble as I killed >>it and removed the divert rule from ipfw and the problem persists. >>I've also checked ipfw rules several times and there were always >>just the rules that NATd requires and one anti spoof rule. The >>strangest thing about is that NFS runs easily at 600kbyte/s so >>I wouldn't say it's a cable issue. I'm currently rebuilding world and >>the kernel to see if there were some corrupted libs or something like >>this. > >Try explicitly setting your media options to half duplex on the NIC. >ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP Hi Mike, I found out not long ago that this also fixes a problem i have been having with my vr0 card (D-Link DFE-530TX). Under 3.x there was no such problem however. Do you have any ideas what on earth is making us go back to 10Mbps HD?! I used to run fine on 100Mbps FD 3 times over (installed 4.x, back to 3.x, etc, 3 times). Same cables. Same nics. Same machine. 3.x performs excellent (11.5MB/s). 4.x runs like an absolute dog. On the other hand, i have a rl0 card running fine at 100Mbps FD under 3.x and 4.x. Something seems to be very randomly wrong with FreeBSD 4.x. Regards, Chris > ---Mike >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 >Network Administration, mike@sentex.net >Sentex Communications www.sentex.net >Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:38:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612A537C2E3; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:38:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30710; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:56:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:56:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Robert Watson Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000728145630.A30667@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3101.964693469@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@freebsd.org on Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 11:08:19AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 11:08:19AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > You may now go back to whacking on the RELENG_4 branch with the usual > > degree of -stable discretion. Good release, guys. Next stop is > > 4.2-RELEASE in mid-November 2000! > > And post-RSA Patent :-). Time to integrate the crypto code into the base > distribution (src-base), I guess. Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 8:40:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C9137B74A for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 08:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01424; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:40:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000728113241.032cb3d8@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:35:03 -0400 To: Chris Pauly From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000729013119.00a89920@mail.csoft.net> References: <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:35 AM 7/29/2000 +1000, Chris Pauly wrote: >I found out not long ago that this also fixes a problem i have been having >with my vr0 card (D-Link DFE-530TX). > >Under 3.x there was no such problem however. Do you have any ideas what on >earth is making us go back to 10Mbps HD?! I used to run fine on 100Mbps FD >3 times over (installed 4.x, back to 3.x, etc, 3 times). Same cables. Same >nics. Same machine. 3.x performs excellent (11.5MB/s). 4.x runs like an >absolute dog. > >On the other hand, i have a rl0 card running fine at 100Mbps FD under 3.x >and 4.x. > >Something seems to be very randomly wrong with FreeBSD 4.x. I would _guess_ its a driver issue with the vr series under 4.x. I have not used that card series at all, so I dont know. Generally I use only the fxp (Intel) and the realtek for low end stuff. For $18, I would make the headache go away and just get a realtek NIC if they work for you. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 9: 7:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF3E337B971 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 26344 invoked by uid 1000); 28 Jul 2000 16:07:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 16:07:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Nik Clayton Cc: Robert Watson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <20000728145630.A30667@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: ... : Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? I don't know if my opinion counts for very much, but I would definately say yes! It'll be a wonderful day when that patent expires for all of us. : N * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5ga+1dMMtMcA1U5ARAlCyAKDR9w/i9d3NV6ANHg+awYpRSqIhkQCff+q/ b+1DJ4qaUKmZNIICf5V+8QM= =WPtD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 9:32:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B91637BBE2 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000728163223.QWQ23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:32:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3981B589.8A12D05E@math.missouri.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:32:09 -0500 From: stephen@math.missouri.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3Com 574 very slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just put FreeBSD 4.1 release onto a Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop which has a 3Com 574B ethernet card. The ethernet card connection is very very slow. I tried it connected to a couple of other places, so I think it is the card that is causing the problem. I tried it at both 10 and 100Mhz (by using ifconfig media on the other card it was connected to). With Linux and Windows 98 this card works fine. Any ideas? Any more details that you need? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 9:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF6E37B910 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13ID5K-000EZO-00; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:34:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: fingers Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tx transmission errors with xl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, fingers wrote: > Hi > > I saw a few months ago that if I got errors like these: > > Jul 28 10:41:15 fingers /kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start > threshold to 600 bytes > Jul 28 10:41:15 fingers /kernel: xl1: tx underrun, increasing tx start > threshold to 600 bytes This is not an error. The kernel is telling you that your system can't keep up with the network card. There are many definitive answers to this question in the archive. Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 9:44: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eeyore.local.dohd.org (d0030.dtk.chello.nl [213.46.0.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A83837C213; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dohd.org) Received: by eeyore.local.dohd.org (Postfix+IPv6, from userid 1008) id 8BF0DBA9D; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:43:22 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:43:22 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: Sean Kelly Cc: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console Message-ID: <20000728184322.A749@dohd.cx> References: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org>; from smkelly@zombie.org on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Sean Kelly wrote: > I am using FreeBSD as a desktop workstation at work. It is very nice > and productive, but I have one problem. We have many HP/UX machines, and > I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on > HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be close, > but I still have some horrid drawing errors. Same with remote work on > SunOS 5.7. On SunOS, the 'more' command doesn't even scroll properly. > I'd be interrested to know if anybody knows of a terminal type that > can be used on HP/UX 10.20, SunOS 5.7, and HP/UX 11 that works perfectly > with the FreeBSD 4-STABLE console. > for me at386 often gives reasonable results. Mark -- Nice testing in little China... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 9:54:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id DE35137C207; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: dc0 being really weird In-Reply-To: <20000727175304.H17222@fw.wintelcom.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "Jul 27, 2000 05:53:04 pm" To: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000728165434.DE35137C207@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is this just me, Yes, it is just you. You probably don't have the card seated properly, or it's posessed by Satan. (Of course it's a PNIC so that's a given.) Forgive me if I don't get to worked up over it. And I don't care what fxp does in the same box. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10: 4: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from denverweb.net (xenu.denverweb.net [199.45.153.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DFB37C267 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:04:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bm1073@denverweb.net) Received: from denverweb.net (rc-pm3-3-28.enetis.net [206.31.207.139]) by denverweb.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26248; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:11:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3981B088.81194810@denverweb.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:10:48 +0000 From: "B. K. Minazzi" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Heckaman , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Heckaman wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > ... > : Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? > > I don't know if my opinion counts for very much, but I would definately > say yes! It'll be a wonderful day when that patent expires for all of us. > I second the motion.... The day we can tell PKP, and other, ummm, ( cant think of appropriate terms ) what to do with a so called "patent" that was developed at MIT with OUR tax dollars, will be a bright day for us all. Certainly worthy of an "interim release", even a non CD one. I recently received an e-mail from C2.net, wanting me to upgrade to stronghold 3... It has Apache 1.3.13, Mod_SSL, PHP 3, blah,blah,blah. ONLY $695, Price good till August 31 only! I asked them what the price would be AFTER august 31, since the patent expires Sept 20, and I can get the same packages for $0.00. ( without the commercial support, which I do not use anyway.) Waiting for a response, which i somehow doubt I will receive. Wonder how many people are gonna be _really pissed_ when they find that $700 bought them 6 weeks of RSA License? Blaine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10:17:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F0737B6E8; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18176; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA72612; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:17:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:17:46 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: dillon@freebsd.org From: gallatin@freebsd.org Subject: NFS server running out of bufs & locking up X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14721.48065.766815.376959@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an NFS server which I updated to RELENG_4 (as of Jul 13th) from 4.0-current (as of Jul 13th 1999). Since the upgrade, it has locked up 3 times; it had been up for 180+ days prior to the upgrade. The machine serves a large (64GB) volume stripped across 4 ATA drives with CCD mounted with soft updates. When it locks up, it is getting beaten upon by a compute farm of 50+ Solaris boxes running NFS over TCP (via 100Mb ethernet). When it locks, most procs are waiting in biofre, and the nfsd's are wating on inode. I've been unable to get a dump, the most I have is ps from ddb. (appended below). Its somewhat interesting that 3 of the nfsds are waiting on the same inode Stopped at siointr1+0xb1: jmp siointr1+0x1a0 db> ps pid proc addr uid ppid pgrp flag stat wmesg wchan cmd 494 d28fb2a0 d292a000 0 120 120 002004 3 biofre c02aa6d8 amd 493 d0ad9c20 d2869000 0 373 492 004006 3 biofre c02aa6d8 grep 473 d0ad7380 d28df000 1597 320 473 004006 3 biofre c02aa6d8 netdump_server 460 d28fbe00 d28fc000 1597 458 460 004086 3 ttyin c1729630 tcsh 458 d0ad76c0 d28c8000 0 205 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 394 d28fb440 d290f000 1 1 394 000104 3 biofre c02aa6d8 portmap 373 d0ad6ea0 d28eb000 0 285 373 2004086 3 opause d28eb108 tcsh 320 d0ad7040 d28e4000 1597 317 320 2004086 3 opause d28e4108 tcsh 317 d0ad71e0 d28e9000 0 205 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 285 d0ad7520 d28db000 1387 283 285 2004086 3 opause d28db108 tcsh 283 d0ad7860 d28c4000 0 205 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 260 d0ad7a00 d28bf000 1387 259 260 004106 3 biofre c02aa6d8 systat 259 d0ad83c0 d2899000 1387 233 259 004186 3 select c02be9ec xterm 233 d0ada440 d284e000 1387 230 233 004006 3 inode c16f8000 tcsh 230 d0ad8220 d289d000 0 205 205 000004 3 biofre c02aa6d8 sshd1 223 d0ada5e0 d284b000 0 1 223 004006 3 biofre c02aa6d8 getty 218 d0ad7ba0 d28bd000 0 1 218 000084 3 sbwait d0668acc zhm 205 d0ad7d40 d28b1000 0 1 205 000084 3 select c02be9ec sshd1 147 d0ad8080 d28a1000 0 1 147 2000184 3 pause d28a1108 sendmail 144 d0ad7ee0 d28a4000 0 1 144 000084 3 nanslp c02aa580 cron 142 d0ad9a80 d286c000 0 1 142 000084 3 select c02be9ec inetd 120 d0ad8be0 d2889000 0 1 120 000084 3 select c02be9ec amd 115 d0ad8560 d2895000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d4c nfsiod 114 d0ad8700 d2892000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d48 nfsiod 113 d0ad88a0 d288f000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d44 nfsiod 112 d0ad8a40 d288c000 0 1 110 000084 3 nfsidl c02c0d40 nfsiod 108 d0ad8d80 d2886000 0 1 108 000084 3 select c02be9ec rpc.statd 105 d0ad8f20 d2882000 0 100 100 000004 3 inode c16c3400 nfsd 104 d0ad90c0 d287f000 0 100 100 000004 3 inode c16c3400 nfsd 103 d0ad9260 d287c000 0 100 100 000004 3 inode c16c3400 nfsd 102 d0ad9400 d2878000 0 100 100 000004 3 biofre c02aa6d8 nfsd 100 d0ad95a0 d2875000 0 1 100 000084 3 accept d06663f6 nfsd 98 d0ad9740 d2872000 0 1 98 000084 3 select c02be9ec mountd 92 d0ad98e0 d286f000 0 1 92 000084 3 select c02be9ec ypbind 87 d0ad9dc0 d2866000 0 1 87 000084 3 select c02be9ec ntpd 80 d0ad9f60 d285c000 0 1 80 000084 3 select c02be9ec syslogd 33 d0ada100 d2858000 0 1 33 2000084 3 pause d2858108 adjkerntz 25 d0ada2a0 d2855000 0 1 25 000084 3 mfsidl d0ad3d00 mount_mfs 5 d0ada780 d0ae7000 0 0 0 000204 3 biofre c02aa6d8 syncer 4 d0ada920 d0ae5000 0 0 0 100204 3 psleep c02aa6a8 bufdaemon 3 d0adaac0 d0ae3000 0 0 0 000204 3 psleep c02b5fa0 vmdaemon 2 d0adac60 d0ae1000 0 0 0 100204 3 psleep c029c8b8 pagedaemon 1 d0adae00 d0adf000 0 0 1 004284 3 wait d0adae00 init 0 c02bdd80 c0322000 0 0 0 000204 3 sched c02bdd80 swapper About 30 seconds before this lockup, I was looking at how much buf space is available: #sysctl -a | grep buf kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 262144 kern.ipc.sockbuf_waste_factor: 8 kern.ipc.mbuf_wait: 32 kern.ipc.nmbufs: 10240 vfs.nfs.bufpackets: 0 vfs.numdirtybuffers: 18 vfs.hidirtybuffers: 796 vfs.numfreebuffers: 3083 vfs.lofreebuffers: 177 vfs.hifreebuffers: 354 vfs.runningbufspace: 32768 vfs.maxbufspace: 50872320 vfs.hibufspace: 50216960 vfs.lobufspace: 50151424 vfs.bufspace: 50151424 vfs.maxmallocbufspace: 2510848 vfs.bufmallocspace: 4096 vfs.getnewbufcalls: 512584 vfs.getnewbufrestarts: 0 vfs.bufdefragcnt: 0 vfs.buffreekvacnt: 0 vfs.bufreusecnt: 3061 vfs.reassignbufcalls: 426411 vfs.reassignbufloops: 0 vfs.reassignbufsortgood: 144583 vfs.reassignbufsortbad: 4776 vfs.reassignbufmethod: 1 vfs.aio.max_buf_aio: 16 vfs.aio.num_buf_aio: 0 debug.bpf_bufsize: 4096 debug.bpf_maxbufsize: 524288 machdep.msgbuf: machdep.msgbuf_clear: 0 I have appended my config file & boot messages. Thanks for any help you can give, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 13 12:11:33 EDT 2000 gallatin@grits.cs.duke.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/NFSSERVER Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 451024727 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (451.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 402640896 (393204K bytes) avail memory = 388145152 (379048K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030f000. ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 pci0: at 4.2 chip1: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 4.3 on pci0 atapci1: port 0xa800-0xa81f,0xb004-0xb007,0xb400-0xb407,0xb804-0xb807,0xd000-0xd007 irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xd000 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xb400 on atapci1 fxp0: port 0xa400-0xa41f mem 0xe2000000-0xe20fffff,0xe3000000-0xe3000fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:e7:95:bb atapci2: port 0x8800-0x881f,0x9004-0x9007,0x9400-0x9407,0x9804-0x9807,0xa000-0xa007 irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 ata4: at 0xa000 on atapci2 ata5: at 0x9400 on atapci2 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 ad0: 4892MB [10602/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 ad1: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata2-master using UDMA33 ad2: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata3-master using UDMA33 ad3: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata4-master using UDMA33 ad4: 16479MB [33483/16/63] at ata5-master using UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ## NFSSERVER machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident NFSSERVER maxusers 128 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=1500 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device ccd 4 #Concatenated disk driver # Size of the kernel message buffer. Should be N * pagesize. options MSGBUF_SIZE=40960 # # Enable the kernel debugger. # options DDB # # Don't drop into DDB for a panic. Intended for unattended operation # where you may want to drop to DDB from the console, but still want # the machine to recover from a panic # options DDB_UNATTENDED # Options for serial drivers that support consoles (only for sio now): options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #a BREAK on a comconsole goes to #DDB, if available. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10:19: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785E837B9EE for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04636; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA26261; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007281718.KAA26261@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: rdist and pam In-Reply-To: <200007281055.aa78980@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200007281055.aa78980@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200007281055.aa78980@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>, David Malone wrote: > > > I should mention that ssh does support a challenge-response > ^^^ > I presume you mean cvsup here. Yes, sorry for the typo. > > > 3) I wasn't sure if you can adjust what gets pushed out to > > > clients from a central config file. We have per > > > machine exceptions. > > > Actually I am testing just that sort of feature now, in preparation > > for the next release. :-) > > Cool - sounds useful. How far through this are you? The enhancement was submitted to me in fully working form by Olaf Wagner. It adds the concept of client classes, which are a lot like FreeBSD's login classes. There is an associated login.conf-like configuration file to control various aspects of what each class may do. For example, you can hide certain collections or even certain branches from some clients. From the point of view of those clients, the hidden collections and/or branches don't even exist. The config file syntax and the mechanism are extensible. I am doing a little restructuring of it and a lot of testing, with the goal of releasing a new version before the summer is over. > If you're interested I can send you some examples of how we use > per-machine exceptions here, which might give you some ideas. That would be great. Please send them to . > > Yep, it's some strange interaction between some window managers and > > the M3 graphics library. It's mentioned in the BUGS section of > > cvsup(1). > > I'll try to find a similar workaround for tvtwm - should I let you > know if I find one? Sure. But even the work-around mentioned in the man page doesn't really solve the whole problem. I think it has something to do with M3's use of the WM_TAKE_FOCUS window manager protocol. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10:23:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (news.IAE.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BF737B758 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Arjan.deVet@adv.iae.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with IAEhv.nl id TAA14547 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:23:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by adv.iae.nl (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1EC4922C1; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:21:47 +0200 (CEST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: README.TXT and RELNOTES.TXT not updated before release tag? X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <450.964646404@localhost> References: <200007261719.e6QHJVx01454@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Organization: Eindhoven, the Netherlands Cc: Message-Id: <20000728172147.1EC4922C1@adv.iae.nl> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:21:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Arjan.deVet@adv.iae.nl (Arjan de Vet) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <450.964646404@localhost> Jordan Hubbard writes: >Argh! I knew I'd forgotten something, but at 4:30am I just couldn't >remember what.. :-) > >I've also just recently moved machines and I couldn't find my TODO >list from 4.0, so what's long been on my checklist of things to verify Then why don't you add that TODO list to the FreeBSD CVS repo somewhere? That CVS repository doesn't get lost that easy (I hope ;-). It might be useful for other people as well. >just didn't get checked. Arjan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10:36:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.dn.cz (ppp742.praha.worldonline.cz [212.11.106.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4A337B6EA for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from milan@salajka.cz) Received: from milan ([212.80.67.18]) by dns.dn.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA02622 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:50:32 +0200 Message-ID: <014d01bff669$09e0f540$0101a8c0@metropole.cz> From: "Milan Salajka" To: References: <029e01bff660$58349e80$0100a8c0@wstein.com> Subject: Re: Problems booting stable/4.1-RC. Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:49:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well, try to compile kernel with commented these lines: # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 which are uncommented in the GENERIC kernel file... Milan > This concerns stable, was posted on -questions several days ago, and still > no response. Does anyone here have any ideas? > > To summarize the problem: Occasionally (frequently(!)) this system will NOT > boot; and locks up trying to reinitialize the ATA drive. The kernel IS > read, and it gets to the point of "mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a", then > freezes. 1 out of 10 boots actually work, although it cycles through > "resetting ATA devices" up to 4 times and always chooses PIO mode. > > Is there a way to FORCE PIO mode? (I know about the sysctl, and I know > about the settings once multi-user is going; however this happens when > trying to call init, I think...) > > joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10:43:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1E137B6FC; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00115; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:43:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3981C638.A7461488@urx.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:43:20 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Robert Watson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 References: <3101.964693469@localhost> <20000728145630.A30667@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 11:08:19AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > > > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > You may now go back to whacking on the RELENG_4 branch with the usual > > > degree of -stable discretion. Good release, guys. Next stop is > > > 4.2-RELEASE in mid-November 2000! > > > > And post-RSA Patent :-). Time to integrate the crypto code into the base > > distribution (src-base), I guess. > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? Aren't there 3 or 4 countries out there that we still can't deal with. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Bomber dropping fire retardant in front of Hanford Wild fire. http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/bomber.jpg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 10:46:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530BA37B6EA for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 10:46:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA42374; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:46:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA58361; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007281746.LAA58361@harmony.village.org> To: Robert Bowen Subject: Re: kernel compile fails at agp_if.h Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:44:32 PDT." <39811DC0.4A9917A4@braingarage.com> References: <39811DC0.4A9917A4@braingarage.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:46:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39811DC0.4A9917A4@braingarage.com> Robert Bowen writes: : Whenever I have tried to make a new kernel for the past two days the : build dies in /src/sys/modules/agp : : What am I doing wrong? It does the same thing if I cd : /usr/src/sys/modues/agp/ and do a "make" Hmmmm. I've not seen this. Lemme go try it on my build box... This will only take a minute. Looks like it is working for me. Can you send me, privately, the output of the entire kernel build? What I did: cd /where/I/keep/the/source setenv MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX /wher/I/keep/the/obj sudo make buildworld
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------_=_NextPart_001_01BFF8D1.CC4EC1B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 13:49: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F7C37C125; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA46212; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:49:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , Robert Watson , stable@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <9202.964815159@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the patent expires? > > Why? It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and to > get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. :-) In fact it should be as simple as removing a whole bunch of makefile gunk which is designed to keep RSA *out* of the system at present. Most people will already have the source file on their system anyway (unless they cvsup from cvsup3, which doesn't carry it) - this was one of the changes that went with the crypto repo unification. It should take no more than 1/2 hour + build testing time :-) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 13:56:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F71837B637; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA46963; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 13:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Kent Stewart Cc: Nik Clayton , Robert Watson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <3981C638.A7461488@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Kent Stewart wrote: > Aren't there 3 or 4 countries out there that we still can't deal with. RSA is only patented in the US. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 14: 3:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C89737B5F8 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA07247; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:02:56 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07831; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:59:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007282059.QAA07831@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: rdist and pam To: David Malone Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200007282104.aa49997@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28 Jul, David Malone wrote: = and ssh seems to add quite alot to the RTT for these small = transactions, so rdist spends most of it's time waiting. We've changed = this to do: = = Tell me about file blah = Tell me about file wibble = . = . = Now process the responses = = It's much like the SMTP pipelining changes. It's nice 'cos it needs no = protocol changes, and just requires that you avoid deadlocks by checking = for data to be read before writing. Out nightly rdisting jobs have gone = from about 5 hours down to a bit over 1 (over ssh). I think you also see = significant gains when using rsh, but I haven't done any measurements = yet. I'm trying to write this up.... Cool. I'm sure, you rdist can update multiple servers in parallel, but just wanted to bring this up for the record... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 14: 6: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from modemcable127.61-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net (modemcable079.102-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.102.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4610D37B7C5 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@mindstep.com) Received: (qmail 47895 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2000 21:05:40 -0000 Received: from patrak.local.mindstep.com (HELO PATRAK) (192.168.10.4) by jacuzzi.local.mindstep.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2000 21:05:40 -0000 Message-ID: <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> From: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" To: References: <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728113241.032cb3d8@mail.sentex.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:05:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > >I found out not long ago that this also fixes a problem i have been having > >with my vr0 card (D-Link DFE-530TX). > > > >Under 3.x there was no such problem however. Do you have any ideas what on > >earth is making us go back to 10Mbps HD?! I used to run fine on 100Mbps FD > >3 times over (installed 4.x, back to 3.x, etc, 3 times). Same cables. Same > >nics. Same machine. 3.x performs excellent (11.5MB/s). 4.x runs like an > >absolute dog. > > > >On the other hand, i have a rl0 card running fine at 100Mbps FD under 3.x > >and 4.x. > > > >Something seems to be very randomly wrong with FreeBSD 4.x. > > I would _guess_ its a driver issue with the vr series under 4.x. I have > not used that card series at all, so I dont know. Generally I use only the > fxp (Intel) and the realtek for low end stuff. For $18, I would make the > headache go away and just get a realtek NIC if they work for you. My observation with the rl driver on FreeBSD 4.x is that it does not detect properly that the network is running at 10baseT. You have to explicitely tell it to use 10base/T (using ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP) for it to work. Maybe this is something that is also broken for other drivers. This is especially annoying when you use DHCP because then the setting will be lost everytime DHCP feels like it needs to reconfigure the interface. See the output of ifconfig: media: autoselect (none) ... where it should say "media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP). bash-2.04$ ifconfig -a rl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 atalk 9.50 range 0-65534 phase 2 broadcast 0.255 ether 00:50:ba:b0:96:d9 media: autoselect (none) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX If somebody has any idea on how to fix this problem, I am more than willing to lend a hand and spend time testing patches etc. Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 15: 2:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3EC37B81D for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 93E751C7D; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:02:06 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: William Denton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: [pcm0 play interrupt timeout, channel dead] and other problems Message-ID: <20000728180206.D5021@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <200007271302.JAA10433@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from buff@pobox.com on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:35:59AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:35:59AM -0400, William Denton wrote: > Will this be committed? I have the same problems as the others and would > rather not edit my local copy of the source code. It's inelegant. I'm > glad the fix was found so soon, of course. The fix is not really a fix, it's a hack. I won't be committing it for various irrelevant reasons, but you can petition cg@freebsd.org to do so. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 15:14:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cluster.oleane.net (smtp1.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627A437B854 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rguyom@321.net) Received: from diabolic-cow.321.net (dyn-1-1-017.Orl.dialup.oleane.fr [195.25.26.17]) by smtp1.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id AAA15216 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:14:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.321.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6B92282; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:14:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:14:34 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Has anyone got matcd to work? Message-ID: <20000729001434.E491@diabolic-cow.321.net> References: <86u2da6nr0.fsf@dumpster.io.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <86u2da6nr0.fsf@dumpster.io.com>; from eighner@io.com on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 02:47:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 02:47:15PM -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: > Has anyone got matcd to work in 4.0? > > If so, how? See http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17605 -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 15:35: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yourfit.com (28.wxfr1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.150.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8DE37B99C for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from armani.yourfit.com (armani.yourfit.com [192.168.1.120]) by mail.yourfit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12819 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:34:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:34:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the > > > patent expires? > > > > Why? It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and > > to get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. > > :-) > > In fact it should be as simple as removing a whole bunch of makefile > gunk which is designed to keep RSA *out* of the system at present. > Most people will already have the source file on their system anyway > (unless they cvsup from cvsup3, which doesn't carry it) - this was > one of the changes that went with the crypto repo unification. > > It should take no more than 1/2 hour + build testing time :-) The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still countries in which private possession of strong crypto is illegal ( (not so)Great Britain comes to mind). If you bundle RSA in with the base, then there are a whole lot of people (private and commercial) who will no longer be able to take FreeBSD updates. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) behanna@zbzoom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 16:40:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDD437B9DB for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA43838; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:40:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA61041; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:40:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> To: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" Subject: Re: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:05:36 EDT." <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> References: <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728113241.032cb3d8@mail.sentex.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:40:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> "Patrick Bihan-Faou" writes: : My observation with the rl driver on FreeBSD 4.x is that it does not detect : properly that the network is running at 10baseT. You have to explicitely : tell it to use 10base/T (using ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP) for it to : work. Maybe this is something that is also broken for other drivers. I've seen this with the rl driver and the 8139, but with no other parts. The realtek part is really bad. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 16:47: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D112137BA39 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.89.53]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000728234700.ZXQD26680.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:47:00 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA12645; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:47:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:47:06 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000729004706.D237@parish> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 06:34:45PM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 06:34:45PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > Is it worth doing a (non-CD) 4.1.5 release the day after the > > > > patent expires? > > > > > > Why? It's not as if the RSA code is bundled with the system, and > > > to get it into such a state would probably take more than a day. > > > :-) > > > > In fact it should be as simple as removing a whole bunch of makefile > > gunk which is designed to keep RSA *out* of the system at present. > > Most people will already have the source file on their system anyway > > (unless they cvsup from cvsup3, which doesn't carry it) - this was > > one of the changes that went with the crypto repo unification. > > > > It should take no more than 1/2 hour + build testing time :-) > > The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still > countries in which private possession of strong crypto is illegal > ( (not so)Great Britain comes to mind). So what's your problem, sonny? JFYI, crypto is now part of src-all on our mirrors. > If you bundle RSA in with the > base, then there are a whole lot of people (private and commercial) > who will no longer be able to take FreeBSD updates. > > -- > Chris BeHanna > Software Engineer (at yourfit.com) > behanna@zbzoom.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 17: 2:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4845B37B628; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13IK52-000I3B-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:02:16 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:02:16 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Mark Ovens Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000729020215.A69204@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000729004706.D237@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000729004706.D237@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 12:47:06AM +0100 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 2000-07-29 (00:47), Mark Ovens wrote: > > The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still > > countries in which private possession of strong crypto is illegal > > ( (not so)Great Britain comes to mind). > > So what's your problem, sonny? > > JFYI, crypto is now part of src-all on our mirrors. That _is_ the problem. The policy changed and it has ramifications on some of our users in some countries. I had a list of problem countries, and another person also had one, and noone gave it much attention at all. The whole point of the crypto distribution was to protect people who couldn't use crypto. That included France at one stage, I believe, and I believe the Netherlands has some legislation coming up. It still applies to many Asian and African countries (not South Africa, luckily), and some others. And now it sucks to be them because they can't buy, download, or use the whole of FreeBSD without doing so illegally. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 17:34: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FFA37B5C3; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12333; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39822668.FE05F964@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:33:44 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Mark Ovens , Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 References: <20000729004706.D237@parish> <20000729020215.A69204@mithrandr.moria.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > The whole point of the crypto distribution was to protect people who > couldn't use crypto. That included France at one stage That wasn't the _whole_ point, by any stretch. However, the recent changes have brought light to the plight of those who have restrictions on crypto use not related to US patent/export issues, so the current trend of thought is to split the crypto stuff into its own distribution, which will be included by default. That may change before someone gets it implemented, but it seems to be the most logical course of action. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 17:45:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.ilsmart.com (freebie.ilsmart.com [206.175.69.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEF337BABA for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:45:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bgoering@ilsmart.com) Received: from svr03.ilsmart.com (ilsinet.go-ils.com [206.175.69.228]) by freebie.ilsmart.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e6T0j1742270 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:45:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from NT2NOTES.ilsmart.com ([209.154.176.3]) by svr03.ilsmart.com (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.2c (Intl)) with ESMTP id 2000072819452523:43999 ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:45:25 -0500 Subject: ida driver - Compaq Smart Array 431 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: arives22222@ilsmart.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a (Intl) 23 November 1999 Message-ID: From: bgoering@ilsmart.com Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:37:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NT2NOTES/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 07/28/2000 07:45:42 PM, Itemize by SMTP Server on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 07/28/2000 07:45:26 PM, Serialize by Router on ILSINET/ILS(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 07/28/2000 07:45:26 PM, Serialize complete at 07/28/2000 07:45:26 PM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am trying to install 4.1-RC from the iso image of about 10 days ago on a Compaq 1600R server with a Compaq Smart Array 431 controller. The array configuration utility has been run and successfully configured four 9.1G drives into a single raid 5 logical drive. The Compaq system partition has been created sucessfully. When I go to install the 4.1-RC I run into wall where it tells me "no hard drive found." Does the ida driver support this particular model of array controller? Any suggestions welcome as to how to get around this. TIA - Bill Goering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 17:46:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB63037BBEA for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13IJci-000CB5-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:33:00 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13IJci-000Ou8-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:33:00 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:33:00 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000729003300.Z59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris BeHanna wrote: > The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still > countries in which private possession of strong crypto is illegal ( > (not so)Great Britain comes to mind). Eh? -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 17:54:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.uni-bielefeld.de (mail2.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819BE37BA53; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:54:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp36-93.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.36.93]) by mail.uni-bielefeld.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0FYF002O6P6F7W@mail.uni-bielefeld.de>; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:54:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from broccoli.no-support.loc (broccoli.no-support.loc [192.168.43.99]) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04672; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:05:27 +0200 (CEST envelope-from bjoern@no-support.loc) Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by broccoli.no-support.loc (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00685; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:05:26 +0200 (CEST envelope-from bjoern@no-support.loc) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:05:26 +0200 From: Bjoern Fischer Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console In-reply-to: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org>; from smkelly@zombie.org on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500 To: Sean Kelly Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20000729020525.A264@broccoli.no-support.loc> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i References: <20000728100018.A12519@edgemaster.zombie.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:00:18AM -0500, Sean Kelly wrote: [...] > I am constantly connecting to them. I can't find a terminal type on > HP/UX that matches the FreeBSD console exactly. 'ansi' appears to be clo= se, > but I still have some horrid drawing errors. Same with remote work on You may be able to use the TERMCAP environment variable, that holds the complete termcap entry. Just fetch the right entry out of /etc/termcap (FreeBSD machine). This works well for me with different target machines (Solaris, IRIX, Tru64, etc.) Bj=F6rn --=20 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(+) s++: a- C+++(-) UB++++OSI++++$ P+++(-) L---(++) !E W- N+ o>+ K- !w !O !M !V PS++ PE- PGP++ t+++ !5 X++ tv- b+++ D++ G e+ h-- y+=20 ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:11: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from modemcable127.61-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net (modemcable079.102-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net [24.200.102.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4D7F37B5A1 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@mindstep.com) Received: (qmail 57543 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2000 01:10:53 -0000 Received: from patrak.local.mindstep.com (HELO PATRAK) (192.168.10.4) by jacuzzi.local.mindstep.com with SMTP; 29 Jul 2000 01:10:53 -0000 Message-ID: <03ae01bff8f9$d48319d0$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> From: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" To: "Warner Losh" Cc: References: <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728113241.032cb3d8@mail.sentex.net> <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:10:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From: "Warner Losh" > In message <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> "Patrick Bihan-Faou" writes: > : My observation with the rl driver on FreeBSD 4.x is that it does not detect > : properly that the network is running at 10baseT. You have to explicitely > : tell it to use 10base/T (using ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP) for it to > : work. Maybe this is something that is also broken for other drivers. > > I've seen this with the rl driver and the 8139, but with no other > parts. The realtek part is really bad. While I agree that the realtek 8139 is not the best card I have seen, Windows does not have any problem with the link speed autodetect... Or at least it pretends that it detects the link speed properly (BTW FreeBSD detects the 100BaseT properly, only 10BaseT is problematic). So I think that there is still a little issue with the FreeBSD driver concerning media detection. I hope that this is limited to the realtek card (I have a vr0 card that does not have any problems)... Not a major deal, but a real annoyance. Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:27:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F36137B50E; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: from monkeyboy.gshapiro.net (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e6T1RPx99916 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (192 bits) verified OK); Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by monkeyboy.gshapiro.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e6T1QYc10583; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:26:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14722.13001.988772.508768@monkeyboy.gshapiro.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:26:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Kent Stewart , Nik Clayton , Robert Watson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: References: <3981C638.A7461488@urx.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.2 (beta35) "Nike" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kris> RSA is only patented in the US. And Canada from what I understand. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:38:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340B737C0E9; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA78862; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: Kent Stewart , Nik Clayton , Robert Watson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <14722.13001.988772.508768@monkeyboy.gshapiro.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > kris> RSA is only patented in the US. > > And Canada from what I understand. I didn't think so, because OpenBSD ship it in the base system. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:46:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front002.cluster1.charter.net (24-216-159-200.hsacorp.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCF037B9EB; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.4.31] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front002.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 14198423; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:44:54 -0400 From: David Uhring To: Kris Kennaway , Gregory Neil Shapiro Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:40:24 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Kent Stewart , Nik Clayton , Robert Watson , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00072820455602.00611@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > > > kris> RSA is only patented in the US. > > > > And Canada from what I understand. > > I didn't think so, because OpenBSD ship it in the base system. > > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe OpenBSD does not ship RSA libs in the base system. After installation you have to download either ssl27USA.tgz or ssl27.tgz (int'l) and install one of them with pkg_add - if you want to use the SSH1 part of OpenSSH. The patent applies only within the USA, so OpenBSD can ship the RSA libs from Canada. I have OpenBSD installed on three machines, and because I live in the US, I cannot yet legally use ssl27.tgz, although OpenBSD.org can ship it to me. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:47:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AE537B6DE for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:47:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11287; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:53:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:53:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <200007290153.UAA11287@prism.flugsvamp.com> To: bgoering@ilsmart.com, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ida driver - Compaq Smart Array 431 X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: Organization: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >Hi all, > >I am trying to install 4.1-RC from the iso image of about 10 days ago on a >Compaq 1600R server with a Compaq Smart Array 431 controller. The array >configuration utility has been run and successfully configured four 9.1G >drives into a single raid 5 logical drive. The Compaq system partition has >been created sucessfully. > >When I go to install the 4.1-RC I run into wall where it tells me "no hard >drive found." Does the ida driver support this particular model of array >controller? Any suggestions welcome as to how to get around this. Does the dmesg report that the controller is a DEC variant of the chip? If so, then you'll need to cvsup to the latest -stable, where a problem was fixed for this particular controller. Unfortunately the fix came too late to make it into the 4.1RC image. :-( -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:52:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9385337BA66; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA79951; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:52:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > It should take no more than 1/2 hour + build testing time :-) > > The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still All I'm talking about is modifying the src-crypto collection to build the rsa_eay.c file it already contains. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 18:55:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314CF37B9EB; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA80180; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 18:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Mark Ovens , Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <20000729020215.A69204@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > The policy changed and it has ramifications on some of our users in some > countries. I had a list of problem countries, and another person also > had one, and noone gave it much attention at all. That's not true - we decided against just merging the crypto code into the base distribution for this reason. If someone can't use crypto or doesn't want to, they can just deselect it at install-time, but for the majority it will just be there. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 19: 2:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B85737B7AD; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA80733; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: David Uhring Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: <00072820455602.00611@dave.uhring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, David Uhring wrote: > OpenBSD does not ship RSA libs in the base system. After installation you have > to download either ssl27USA.tgz or ssl27.tgz (int'l) and install one of them Yes, that's what I meant to say :-) Since they can do that at all, they are presumably outside the reaches of the RSA patent. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 19: 4:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF87137B9EB for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclaire@sprintmail.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (dialup-63.210.224.64.Cincinnati1.Level3.net [63.210.224.64]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11861; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 19:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:03:42 -0500 (EST) From: Andre LeClaire To: Warner Losh Cc: Patrick Bihan-Faou , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... In-Reply-To: <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maybe so at 10base/T, but I've had great results running Addtron AEF-360TX's ($16 ea.) that use the 8139 in 100baseTX networks running FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE. Andre On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> "Patrick Bihan-Faou" writes: > : My observation with the rl driver on FreeBSD 4.x is that it does not detect > : properly that the network is running at 10baseT. You have to explicitely > : tell it to use 10base/T (using ifconfig rl0 media 10baseT/UTP) for it to > : work. Maybe this is something that is also broken for other drivers. > > I've seen this with the rl driver and the 8139, but with no other > parts. The realtek part is really bad. > > Warner > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 20:58: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.il.home.com (ha1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358B837BC23 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by mail.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000729035752.CWUR23923.mail.rdc1.il.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 20:57:52 -0700 Message-ID: <39825632.C9616CBB@math.missouri.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:57:38 -0500 From: stephen@math.missouri.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: slight error in make.conf re openssl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In /etc/defaults/make.conf it says #NO_OPENSSH= true # do not build OpenSSH #NO_OPENSSL= true # do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_OPENSSH) So I put in /etc/make.conf NO_OPENSSL and got a compile error. Adding NO_OPENSSH cleared up the problem. Just thought you would like to know. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith Department of Mathematics, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO 65211 Phone 573-882-4540, fax 573-882-1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen stephen@math.missouri.edu P.S. here is the compile error: >>> stage 4: building everything.. ........ ===> secure/usr.sbin/sshd ........ cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -DLIBWRAP -DLOGI N_ACCESS -I/usr/src/secure/usr.sbin/sshd/../../../usr.bin/login -DSKEY -I/usr/ obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o sshd sshd.o auth-rhosts.o auth-passwd.o auth-rs a.o auth-rh-rsa.o pty.o log-server.o login.o servconf.o serverloop.o auth.o auth 1.o auth2.o session.o login_access.o -lopie -lmd -L/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr. sbin/sshd/../../lib/libssh -lssh -lcrypt -lcrypto -lutil -lz -lwrap /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lcrypto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 21:54:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C389437B8C6 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA44613; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:54:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA62455; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007290454.WAA62455@harmony.village.org> Subject: Re: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... Cc: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:40:21 MDT." <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> References: <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728113241.032cb3d8@mail.sentex.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:54:33 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> Warner Losh writes: : I've seen this with the rl driver and the 8139, but with no other : parts. The realtek part is really bad. Well, with some ethrenet hubs. It does very well with switches, be they 10M or 100M. The 10M ethernet hubs we have here (netgear mostly) have problems. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 22:22:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D282437BBA9 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02471; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:22:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000729010824.049e7380@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:17:06 -0400 To: Warner Losh From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Duplex settings (was Re: Re[2]: outgoing IP is fscking slow... ) Cc: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200007290454.WAA62455@harmony.village.org> References: <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> <035601bff8d7$93b06010$040aa8c0@local.mindstep.com> <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728113241.032cb3d8@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:54 PM 7/28/2000 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >In message <200007282340.RAA61041@harmony.village.org> Warner Losh writes: >: I've seen this with the rl driver and the 8139, but with no other >: parts. The realtek part is really bad. > >Well, with some ethrenet hubs. It does very well with switches, be >they 10M or 100M. The 10M ethernet hubs we have here (netgear mostly) >have problems. Hubs and switches for me. I have found both the fxp and rl cards work well at duplex negotiation on my HP and cat2900 switches, but not against some IMC media convertors, 50% of my dumb hubs (everything from 3com - i.e. big name brands-- to ones manufactured on boats in international waters) and cat1900 switches. Basically, I have yet to find a card that works reliably enough for me under any OS against any switch/hub to auto detect anything other than 10BaseT/UTP Half Duplex. So even under NT (eg Intel Pro NICs dont get it right on my SMC Tigerswitch on NT 4.0) I will set the speed and duplex settings to match the switch/hub port. Why let NICs/drivers guess, when you can 'give them the right answer' and not have to worry about it. This is policy for our entire network and generally means one less variable to worry about when diagnosing network problems. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 28 22:29:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3D4037B9E1 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 19530 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jul 2000 05:29:25 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 22:29:25 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipnat and ftp proxy... Message-ID: <20000728222924.H30335@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did something recently change (since 4.1-RC to 4.1-STABLE) that should have caused ipnat ftp proxying to quit working. I rebuild world this morning on my home nat, and now I can't do non-passive ftp's through it. The box had previously been built with 4.1-RC about 2 weeks prior. Thanks, Greg -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 0:38:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au (ha1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F6237B545 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mike@perlguru.com) Received: from daedalus.perlguru.com ([203.164.24.4]) by mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP id <20000729073748.QRGS12803.mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au@daedalus.perlguru.com> for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:37:48 +1000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:37:15 +1000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Subject: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since installing 4.1-RELEASE from my local Australian mirror and trying to connect using SSH, I get this message at the console:- Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. See the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed I've read large volumes of man pages/forums/mailing lists and I still can't figure out what is going wrong. I tried installing the OpenSSH 2.1.1 port and that gives the same response. I also installed the crypto distribution using sysinstall and recompiled my kernel to no avail. Can anyone point me in a useful direction towards getting sshd functioning? Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 0:51:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2800237BA26 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hanai@FreeBSD.org) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7Wpl2-GW) with ESMTP id QAA57670; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:51:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from darkmatter.imgsrc.co.jp (darkmatter.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.149]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2-SPOOL) with ESMTP id QAA15814; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:51:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from darkmatter.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkmatter.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A76A9E96; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:51:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:51:40 +0900 Message-ID: <82zon14bn7.wl@darkmatter.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Hiroyuki Hanai To: Mike@perlguru.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: In your message of "29 Jul 2000 07:39:48 GMT" <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.6 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) Organization: IMG SRC, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Since installing 4.1-RELEASE from my local Australian mirror and trying to > connect using SSH, > I get this message at the console:- > > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an > RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the > /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. See > the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed This is because you didn't have librsaINTL.(a|so) installed. I guess your Australian mirror is the mirror of ftp.freebsd.org. One solution is to make world with USA_RESIDENT=NO if you have sources installed. Another is to install 4.1-RELEASE again from some `international' site such as current.jp.freebsd.org. good luck, h.hanai To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 0:53:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFA737BA2E for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (postfix@1Cust72.tnt3.beaverton.or.da.uu.net [63.21.224.72]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA50387; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E89773175; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:53:04 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Mike Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Message-ID: <20000729005303.A41123@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net>; from Mike@perlguru.com on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:37:15PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 at 17:37:15 +1000, Mike wrote: > Since installing 4.1-RELEASE from my local Australian mirror and > trying to connect using SSH, > I get this message at the console:- > > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to > find an RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the > /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program > again. See > the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed > > I've read large volumes of man pages/forums/mailing lists and I still > can't figure out what is going wrong. I tried installing the OpenSSH > 2.1.1 port and that gives the same response. > > I also installed the crypto distribution using sysinstall and > recompiled my kernel to no avail. > > Can anyone point me in a useful direction towards getting sshd > functioning? Do you have USA_RESIDENT=YES in your /etc/make.conf? If so, try changing that to NO. - jim -- /* jim mock - BSDi - open source solutions division - jim@bsdi.com */ /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 0:56:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au (ha1.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D651537BA2E for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mike@perlguru.com) Received: from daedalus.perlguru.com ([203.164.24.4]) by mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP id <20000729075640.QSOO12803.mail.rdc1.nsw.optushome.com.au@daedalus.perlguru.com>; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:56:40 +1000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729175454.00b1dee0@briz.net> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:56:05 +1000 To: jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com From: Mike Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000729005303.A41123@luna.osd.bsdi.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Can anyone point me in a useful direction towards getting sshd > > functioning? > >Do you have USA_RESIDENT=YES in your /etc/make.conf? If so, try >changing that to NO. I've got USA_RESIDENT=NO in my /etc/defaults/make.conf, yes. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 1: 1: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1141637B72C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from luna.osd.bsdi.com (postfix@1Cust72.tnt3.beaverton.or.da.uu.net [63.21.224.72]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA50462; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by luna.osd.bsdi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EF8CA3175; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 01:00:56 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Mike Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Message-ID: <20000729010056.A46090@luna.osd.bsdi.com> Reply-To: jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> <20000729005303.A41123@luna.osd.bsdi.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000729175454.00b1dee0@briz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729175454.00b1dee0@briz.net>; from Mike@perlguru.com on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 05:56:05PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 at 17:56:05 +1000, Mike wrote: > > > Can anyone point me in a useful direction towards getting sshd > > > functioning? > > > >Do you have USA_RESIDENT=YES in your /etc/make.conf? If so, try > >changing that to NO. > > I've got USA_RESIDENT=NO in my /etc/defaults/make.conf, yes. I forgot to mention you'll probably have to build world.. - jim -- /* jim mock - BSDi - open source solutions division - jim@bsdi.com */ /* documentation manager - jim@FreeBSD.org - jim@luna.osd.bsdi.com */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 2:20:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.1.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03FC37B5EA for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:20:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from l@binkyware.com) Received: from x (CPE-144-132-43-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.43.152]) by mr14.vic-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA04404; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:19:58 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000729190659.00aae158@mail.csoft.net> X-Sender: binkwre6@mail.csoft.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:20:09 +1000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Pauly Subject: Re: outgoing IP is fscking slow... In-Reply-To: <20000728133705.D5162@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <4.2.2.20000729013119.00a89920@mail.csoft.net> <141681324352.20000728151722@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <13675259221.20000728133617@buz.ch> <3981843A.8157C83C@mediaone.net> <4.2.2.20000728091818.03db6d70@mail.sentex.net> <4.2.2.20000729013119.00a89920@mail.csoft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 13:37 28/07/2000 -0400, Sean O'Connell wrote: >: Hi Mike, >: >: I found out not long ago that this also fixes a problem i have been having >: with my vr0 card (D-Link DFE-530TX). >: >: Under 3.x there was no such problem however. Do you have any ideas what on >: earth is making us go back to 10Mbps HD?! I used to run fine on 100Mbps FD >: 3 times over (installed 4.x, back to 3.x, etc, 3 times). Same cables. Same >: nics. Same machine. 3.x performs excellent (11.5MB/s). 4.x runs like an >: absolute dog. >: >: On the other hand, i have a rl0 card running fine at 100Mbps FD under 3.x >: and 4.x. >: >: Something seems to be very randomly wrong with FreeBSD 4.x. > >How are you setting up the card? If you are trying to kick it into >100FD (and it isn't behaving), you need to specify both the media >and the mediaopts > >ifconfig_vr0="inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt >full-duplex" Hi Sean, I just went and tried: ifconfig_vr0="inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" ifconfig_vr0="inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 100baseTX mediaopt" ifconfig_vr0="inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt full-duplex" ifconfig_vr0="inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 10baseT/UTP mediaopt" No luck unfortunately, the only one that works is the last which is what i was already using. For the rest, if i try and send a file via ftp to the machine, it locks up after sending 130KB. No matter what ifconfig i do after that, un/replugging cables, using different ports (it's on a 5 port D-Link DES-1005D switch), turning the switch on and off - nothing brings the connection back until i reboot FreeBSD. All telnets/ftp etc freeze, then they get a "connection reset by peer", and further attempts of anything get a time out. BTW, "autoselect" gets me 100baseTX FD on both the NIC and the switch in 3.x and 4.x, and it's what i've always used as 3.x had no problems with 100Mbps FD - got 11.5MB/s all the time no problems. None of this has ever happened on 3.x - as i mentioned before, 3 times. This is my third attempt at FreeBSD 4.x (each attempt a few months apart in hope that somebody has fixed the problem), and this time i'm just going to replace the NIC. I've a Netgear FA310TX, and an AOpen cheapo realtek 8139C card arriving soon.. One of them must work. :) The other can be a spare in case somebody decides to kill another driver that i use in the next FreeBSD release. *sigh* Thanks for the help. Regards, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 2:25:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB3237BB4C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:25:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from parish.my.domain ([62.253.84.67]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000729092543.EVRS16423.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish.my.domain>; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:25:43 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00596; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:25:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:25:37 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Chris BeHanna , FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 Message-ID: <20000729102537.B236@parish> References: <20000729004706.D237@parish> <20000729020215.A69204@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000729020215.A69204@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 02:02:16AM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 02:02:16AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Sat 2000-07-29 (00:47), Mark Ovens wrote: > > > The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still > > > countries in which private possession of strong crypto is illegal > > > ( (not so)Great Britain comes to mind). > > > > So what's your problem, sonny? > > > > JFYI, crypto is now part of src-all on our mirrors. > > That _is_ the problem. > > The policy changed and it has ramifications on some of our users in some > countries. I had a list of problem countries, and another person also > had one, and noone gave it much attention at all. > I realize that. The original message cited the UK as an example of a country where it is still illegal private individuals to own strong crypto; I was pointing out that this is not the case. > The whole point of the crypto distribution was to protect people who > couldn't use crypto. That included France at one stage, I believe, and > I believe the Netherlands has some legislation coming up. It still > applies to many Asian and African countries (not South Africa, luckily), > and some others. > > And now it sucks to be them because they can't buy, download, or use the > whole of FreeBSD without doing so illegally. > > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org -- If I buy a copy of WinDelete, and it doesn't delete Windows, am I entitled to my money back? ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 2:37:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A638237B594 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 02:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13885; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:37:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:37:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200007290937.LAA13885@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, chad@DCFinc.com Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Console X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <8lsnv2$234i$1@atlantis.rz.tu-clausthal.de> Organization: Administration TU Clausthal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.4-19991219-STABLE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable Chad R. Larson wrote: > Right (and what we did here) is to extract the "cons25" entry from your > /etc/termcap, move it to the Sun machine, and compile it into a terminfo > entry (using "captoinfo(1M)" and "tic(1M))". Install that on all the > Suns. You'll need admin priviledges to do that. Not necessrily, you can use it as normal user, too. Just set $TERMINFO to a directory in your home that contains the compiled terminfo set. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Addresses will change soon!! If in doubt: www.fromme.com "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 4: 3:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nohow.demon.co.uk (nohow.demon.co.uk [212.228.18.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C4537BB1E for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 04:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (noway@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03567; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:37:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:37:55 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: src code freeze is over for RELENG_4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chris BeHanna wrote: > The trouble is (as someone else pointed out), there are still > countries in which private possession of strong crypto is illegal ( > (not so)Great Britain comes to mind). It's not illegal, we just have to give our keys to the men in dark glasses when they ask for them and not tell anybody about it (see http://www.fipr.org/rip/ for details). -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 5:14:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 214.norrgarden.se (214.norrgarden.se [195.100.133.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CA237B6BE for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 05:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cj@214.norrgarden.se) Received: (from cj@localhost) by 214.norrgarden.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA52484 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:14:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cj) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:14:47 +0200 From: Carl Johan Madestrand To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make world fails Message-ID: <20000729141447.C196@214.norrgarden.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi This is make buildworld from a very recent 4.1 STABLE cvsup: ===> usr.sbin/keyserv cc -O -pipe -DKEYSERV_RANDOM -DBROKEN_DES -I. -DOBJFORMAT_ELF -I/usr/obj/usr/s rc/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/keyserv/keyserv.c cc -O -pipe -DKEYSERV_RANDOM -DBROKEN_DES -I. -DOBJFORMAT_ELF -I/usr/obj/usr/s rc/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/keyserv/setkey.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 10 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/keyserv. *** Error code 1 Any ideas? -- * Carl Johan Madestrand * * LoRd_CJ on IRC * * ICQ: 46955545 * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 5:47:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F4337B55F for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA41360 for ; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:47:49 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:47:43 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: is fetch broken? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Message-ID: <39837B2F.1876.2E2C81E6@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'd to 4.1-stable, and fetch appears to be broken: # fetch http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (113.50 kBps) fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 6:11: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tower.portal2.com (tower.portal2.com [202.77.223.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52ADD37B82F for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 06:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ymg@graffiti.net) Received: (qmail 10803 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jul 2000 13:09:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "ym g" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:09:53 +0800 Subject: Zen regarding accept filters Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I just read a cvs commit message about accept filters into 4.1-STABLE [submitted by Alfred Perlstein]. My C/kernel skills are very low compared to others so I couldn't grok much by reading the source. I assume they provide some framework for faster socket performance. Is this correct, how does one use them Are there plans to incorporate this into some webserver like Apache/thttpd possibly in conjunction with kqueue/kevent -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 7: 0: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36ECA37B53D for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 06:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05406; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:59:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000729095023.03de5a70@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:54:27 -0400 To: dan@langille.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: <39837B2F.1876.2E2C81E6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:47 AM 7/30/2000 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: >I just cvsup'd to 4.1-stable, and fetch appears to be broken: > ># fetch >http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 >Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% >258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (113.50 kBps) >fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes Yes, the same here. On http, it appears to get the file size wrong. e.g. fetch http://206.204.218.50/dns_code.plx but ftp seems to work fine. 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 27 08:58:32 EDT 2000 ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 8:25:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E9037B6BC for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e6TFPAN85938; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:25:10 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200007291525.e6TFPAN85938@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> from Mike at "Jul 29, 2000 05:37:15 pm" To: Mike@perlguru.com (Mike) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:25:10 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Since installing 4.1-RELEASE from my local Australian mirror and trying to > connect using SSH, > I get this message at the console:- > > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: ** RSAPrivateDecrypt: Unable to find an > RSAREF shared library (librsaref.so). Install the > /usr/ports/security/rsaref port or package and run this program again. See > the OpenSSL chapter in the FreeBSD Handbook, located at > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html, for more information. > Jul 29 17:26:09 gateway sshd[1239]: fatal: rsa_private_decrypt() failed > > I've read large volumes of man pages/forums/mailing lists and I still can't > figure out what is going wrong. I tried installing the OpenSSH 2.1.1 port > and that gives the same response. > > I also installed the crypto distribution using sysinstall and recompiled my > kernel to no avail. > > Can anyone point me in a useful direction towards getting sshd functioning? > You have 2 options. If you have the crypto distribution with source, you can go into /usr/src/secure/lib/librsaintl and build and install it. If you don't want to build it, you can install the crypto distribution from ftp.internat.freebsd.org, its crypto distibution was built with USA_RESIDENT=NO and should give you librsaINTL* which is what is needed. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 9:59:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6A937B517 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13IZge-000ETD-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:42:08 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 13IZge-00077E-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:42:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:42:08 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Mike Tancsa Cc: dan@langille.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Message-ID: <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <39837B2F.1876.2E2C81E6@localhost> <4.2.2.20000729095023.03de5a70@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000729095023.03de5a70@mail.sentex.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 12:47 AM 7/30/2000 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: >> I just cvsup'd to 4.1-stable, and fetch appears to be broken: >> >> # fetch >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 >> Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% >> 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (113.50 kBps) >> fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes > > > Yes, the same here. On http, it appears to get the file size wrong. > e.g. > fetch http://206.204.218.50/dns_code.plx > but ftp seems to work fine. I suggest you report this to fetch's author/maintainer, rather than posting it here on a list he might not read (). -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D FreeBSD Documentation Project / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 10: 3:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zaphon.llamas.net (zaphon.llamas.net [207.203.36.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3C3937B512 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) Received: (qmail 26006 invoked by uid 500); 29 Jul 2000 17:03:32 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:03:32 -0700 From: Greg Rumple To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipnat and ftp proxy... Message-ID: <20000729100332.L30335@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <20000728222924.H30335@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0us In-Reply-To: <20000728222924.H30335@zaphon.llamas.net>; from grumple@zaphon.llamas.net on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 10:29:25PM -0700 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have done more looking into this, and it appears that on 7/19 someone accepted a brand new version of IPFilter into the system. Not a minor upgrade either, but rather a jump from 3.3.8 to 3.4.8. And based on what I have seen over on the IPFilter mailing list, this ftp proxy problem goes back quite a ways. Someone over there had to back out all the way to 3.3.13 to get his ftp proxying working again. I'm thankful that I didn't upgrade any of my important boxes first, or I would have hundreds of people yelling at me. Of course the question I'm confused about is I thought there was a freeze on the system as of a few weeks ago (this change was 10 days ago), and that there wouldn't be such a brash change this close to being done. I realize that it was probably taken since 3.4 support IPv6 and 3.3 doesn't, but still. Greg * Greg Rumple (grumple@zaphon.llamas.net) [000729 05:31]: > Did something recently change (since 4.1-RC to 4.1-STABLE) that should > have caused ipnat ftp proxying to quit working. I rebuild world this > morning on my home nat, and now I can't do non-passive ftp's through it. > The box had previously been built with 4.1-RC about 2 weeks prior. > > Thanks, > > Greg > > -- > Greg Rumple > grumple@zaphon.llamas.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Greg Rumple grumple@zaphon.llamas.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 10: 6:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB2437B517 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:06:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17643; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:04:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-68.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.68) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma017639; Sat Jul 29 12:04:47 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:03:31 -0500 To: John Hay , Mike@perlguru.com (Mike) From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200007291525.e6TFPAN85938@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000729172836.00b18c60@briz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:25 PM 7/29/00 +0200, John Hay wrote: >You have 2 options. If you have the crypto distribution with source, you >can go into /usr/src/secure/lib/librsaintl and build and install it. If >you don't want to build it, you can install the crypto distribution from >ftp.internat.freebsd.org, its crypto distibution was built with >USA_RESIDENT=NO and should give you librsaINTL* which is what is needed. Doesn't one also need the following in make.conf: MAKE_RSAINTL= YES # RSA (public key exchange) The change was done earlier this month. Replaced RSAREF and was WITH_RSAINTL until the 14th. Setting USA_RESIDENT=YES is only a part of the check: .if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c) && \ (${USA_RESIDENT} != YES || defined(MAKE_RSAINTL)) SUBDIR+=librsaintl .endif Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 10:34:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C7137B85B for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e6THXUn88664; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:33:30 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200007291733.e6THXUn88664@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> from "Jeffrey J. Mountin" at "Jul 29, 2000 12:03:31 pm" To: jeff-ml@mountin.net (Jeffrey J. Mountin) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:33:30 +0200 (SAT) Cc: jhay@icomtek.co.za (John Hay), Mike@perlguru.com (Mike), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >You have 2 options. If you have the crypto distribution with source, you > >can go into /usr/src/secure/lib/librsaintl and build and install it. If > >you don't want to build it, you can install the crypto distribution from > >ftp.internat.freebsd.org, its crypto distibution was built with > >USA_RESIDENT=NO and should give you librsaINTL* which is what is needed. > > Doesn't one also need the following in make.conf: > > MAKE_RSAINTL= YES # RSA (public key exchange) > > The change was done earlier this month. Replaced RSAREF and was > WITH_RSAINTL until the 14th. Setting USA_RESIDENT=YES is only a part of > the check: > > .if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c) && \ > (${USA_RESIDENT} != YES || defined(MAKE_RSAINTL)) > SUBDIR+=librsaintl > .endif > No, you only need USA_RESIDENT=NO. It won't harm if you have MAKE_RSAINTL=YES, but it isn't needed. MAKE_RSAINTL=YES is meant as a kind of override if USA_RESIDENT=YES I think. Maybe the idea was to be able to build both. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 10:43:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBE537B58C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6THh9Z10761; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:43:09 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: ym g Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Zen regarding accept filters Message-ID: <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net>; from ymg@graffiti.net on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 09:09:53PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * ym g [000729 06:12] wrote: > Greetings, I just read a cvs commit message about accept filters > into 4.1-STABLE [submitted by Alfred Perlstein]. My C/kernel skills > are very low compared to others so I couldn't grok much by reading > the source. I assume they provide some framework for faster socket > performance. Is this correct, how does one use them They provide a way to filter incomming connections so that the application doesn't see them accept()'able until the filter is satisfied. The idea is that once apache does a setsocketopt() using SO_ACCEPTFILTER and accf_http the kernel will hold connections until the full http request is there. This reduces the active amount of apache processes needed from the hundreds, probably down to the tens. > Are there plans to incorporate this into some webserver like > Apache/thttpd possibly in conjunction with kqueue/kevent I don't know, I don't work on those servers. I do have plans to write a FreeBSD specific server that ought to be insanely fast, but that'll be a while. :) -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 11:25:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4A437B6AF for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18871; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:24:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-68.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.68) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma018867; Sat Jul 29 13:24:30 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000729132057.00b3b280@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:23:15 -0500 To: John Hay From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: SSH in 4.1 RELEASE for NonUS users Cc: Mike@perlguru.com (Mike), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200007291733.e6THXUn88664@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> References: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:33 PM 7/29/00 +0200, John Hay wrote: > > .if exists(${.CURDIR}/../../crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_eay.c) && \ > > (${USA_RESIDENT} != YES || defined(MAKE_RSAINTL)) > > SUBDIR+=librsaintl > > .endif > > > >No, you only need USA_RESIDENT=NO. It won't harm if you have MAKE_RSAINTL=YES, >but it isn't needed. MAKE_RSAINTL=YES is meant as a kind of override if >USA_RESIDENT=YES I think. Maybe the idea was to be able to build both. You're right, missed the parens. Have yet to try the override. The commits were quiet and did not explain the interaction between USA_RESIDENT and MAKE_RSAINTL. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 11:40:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251F337B8D3 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA18359; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:37:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-68.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.68) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma018357; Sat Jul 29 12:37:38 2000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20000729121902.00b14e90@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:36:23 -0500 To: Greg Rumple From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: ipnat and ftp proxy... Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000729100332.L30335@zaphon.llamas.net> References: <20000728222924.H30335@zaphon.llamas.net> <20000728222924.H30335@zaphon.llamas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:03 AM 7/29/00 -0700, Greg Rumple wrote: >I have done more looking into this, and it appears that on 7/19 someone >accepted a brand new version of IPFilter into the system. Not a minor >upgrade either, but rather a jump from 3.3.8 to 3.4.8. And based on >what I have seen over on the IPFilter mailing list, this ftp proxy >problem goes back quite a ways. Someone over there had to back out all >the way to 3.3.13 to get his ftp proxying working again. I'm thankful >that I didn't upgrade any of my important boxes first, or I would have >hundreds of people yelling at me. > >Of course the question I'm confused about is I thought there was a >freeze on the system as of a few weeks ago (this change was 10 days >ago), and that there wouldn't be such a brash change this close to being >done. I realize that it was probably taken since 3.4 support IPv6 and >3.3 doesn't, but still. Darren Reed was the commiter. Jordan pushed this and hoped, but would accept, problems arising from this, so gave Darren special permission. The desire to encourage him keep ipfilter more up to date. Check the archives for details. Not sure if the problem is in -current as well, but there was some talk of differences between -stable and -current. Didn't check if they were resolved. Non-issue here (sorry). Surely both will work to fix this before the CD is out the door. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 12:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71B137B7CA for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wotan@fosburgh.org) Received: from gw.fosburgh.org (p192.amax4.dialup.hou1.flash.net [209.30.160.192]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14034 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:28:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (wotan@localhost) by gw.fosburgh.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28531 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:28:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from wotan@ns.fosburgh.org) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:28:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan E Fosburgh Reply-To: fosburgh@flash.net To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: More on failed buildorld Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1991180806-964898832=:28449" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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2000 20:20:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2000 20:20:08 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:20:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bradley T. Hughes" X-Sender: bhughes@reticent.troll.no To: Francesco Casadei Cc: freebsd-stable mailing list Subject: Re: my sb16 play sound with clicks after cvsup In-Reply-To: <20000726230544.A1413@casimirhost.kasby> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Francesco Casadei wrote: [snip] I'm having the same problem on my machine, with an SB Live! using the newpcm driver. I built world on 29 July. (My previous buildworld from 2 weeks ago had no problems)... as a note... it seems that the clicking/crackling somehow relates to the intensity of the sound... i notice the effect more with some of my louder mp3's, and less with others (like classical pieces which can have brief periods of silence) -- Bradley T. Hughes Waldemar Thranes gt. 98B N-0175 Oslo, Norway Office: +47 21 60 48 92 Mobile: +47 92 01 97 81 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 13:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FBA37B51B for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20943; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39834258.996BBAD9@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:45:12 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Johan Madestrand Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fails References: <20000729141447.C196@214.norrgarden.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Carl Johan Madestrand wrote: > > Hi > > This is make buildworld from a very recent 4.1 STABLE cvsup: > > ===> usr.sbin/keyserv > cc -O -pipe -DKEYSERV_RANDOM -DBROKEN_DES -I. -DOBJFORMAT_ELF -I/usr/obj/usr/s > rc/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/keyserv/keyserv.c > cc -O -pipe -DKEYSERV_RANDOM -DBROKEN_DES -I. -DOBJFORMAT_ELF -I/usr/obj/usr/s > rc/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/keyserv/setkey.c > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 10 > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/keyserv. > *** Error code 1 Signals 10 and 11 are almost always hardware. You can try the traditional removal of /usr/obj/* and 'make cleandir' in /usr/src then cvsup and try again though if you think that isn't the case. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 16:48:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B03837B8A5 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 43672 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Jul 2000 23:48:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jul 2000 23:48:25 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:48:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: <39837B2F.1876.2E2C81E6@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Dan Langille wrote: : I just cvsup'd to 4.1-stable, and fetch appears to be broken: : : # fetch http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev=1.2 : Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% : 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (113.50 kBps) : fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes Ohhhh.. I thought that was just me. Fetch here of 4.1-STABLE does that when called from wmstock, I haven't seen it do that to ports of mine though. Well, here is my "me too". : -- : Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] : The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ : FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5g21IdMMtMcA1U5ARAqUZAJ416SAoqZqPnVaTwHU10nRmBnIaowCgnEOM jN15d2rgSO+iyVw+YWomCzg= =NuNm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 17: 6:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE4337B5CC for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13IgcQ-0000bd-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:06:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:06:14 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sony Z505HS, suspend, audio and other major problems Message-ID: <20000729200614.D27354@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20000723151352.A3853@hdroam.ssd.loral.com> <00072615312000.04245@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727024937.H51462@jade.chc-chimes.com> <00072700392500.20332@dbm.wireless.net> <20000727123941.A21531@pir.net> <20000727130343.A21010@medianstrip.net> <20000728112737.A71464@medianstrip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000728112737.A71464@medianstrip.net>; from msr@elision.org on Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 11:27:37AM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mike ryan probably said: > try this: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20255 That fixed it for me too, thanks mike ! USB floppy not getting a disk entry was fixed with a simple; # deal with usb disk device "USB disk" devname "umass[0-9]+" attach "/sbin/camcontrol rescan bus 0" The only problem is this won't work if I happen to have a pcmcia scsi card connected it won't be bus 0 - we really need a variable to know which bus to rescan. I think thats all the problems I've found so far with this laptop fixed :) P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 17:57:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5485D37B50B for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippe@le-berre.com) Received: from [209.179.247.27] (pool0792.cvx19-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.247.27]) by emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09873 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: philippe.le.berre/le-berre.com@212.129.1.43 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000729132057.00b3b280@207.227.119.2> References: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000729132057.00b3b280@207.227.119.2> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:57:16 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Philippe Le Berre Subject: Perl modules after buildworld? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I had this box running with MySQL, Perl, DBI and the MySQL DBD, everything was running okay. Today I have cvsup'ed, buildworld, buildkernel and so forth. After rebooting MySQL started, fine...however all Perl's scripts using DBI failed ... Error in the DBD::Mysql <> oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but it failed on make test with the same error? Did I miss something with Perl when doing make buildworld & make installworld? thanks, -philippe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 18:10:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A489337B512; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:10:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0D644A845; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:10:47 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0468C5449; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:10:47 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:10:46 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Mike Tancsa , dan@langille.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Are you using an HTTP proxy? Have you tried the -b and/or -t options? I get similar errors (and always have) if I don't use -b. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 18:18:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ducky.nz.freebsd.org (chilled.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EA837B598; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:18:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ducky.nz.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA69773; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:17:49 +1200 (NZST) From: "Dan Langille" Organization: langille.org To: andrew@ugh.net.au Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:17:41 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, des@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <39842AF5.9469.30DB554C@localhost> References: <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 30 Jul 2000, at 11:10, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > Are you using an HTTP proxy? Yes, a transparent one imposed by my ISP. > Have you tried the -b and/or -t options? I was using -b, but that is deprecated. So I stopped using it. I see the same symptoms for both options. And -t is deprecated as well. > I get > similar errors (and always have) if I don't use -b. I never had a error such as: fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes But when not using -b, I sometimes received a message saying try -b or -t. Is it more than a coincidence that the last commit was proxy related? "MFC: Sync with -CURRENT (most notably, fix resume and proxy problems)" -- Dan Langille [I'm looking for more work] The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.freebsddiary.org/ FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 18:26:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284D037B7DD for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:26:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Ihrs-000IT9-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:26:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:26:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Philippe Le Berre Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Philippe Le Berre wrote: ... > DBD::Mysql <> > oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but ... If you get an error that a shared library can't be loaded, you should verify if you have it. libmysqlclient.so.X is included with MySQL. If you have it, you should see why the dynamic linker can't find it. Probably because the path to the library is no longer looked at by ldconfig during bootup (see /etc/rc.conf). A quick fix is: ldconfig -m Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 18:48:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2a.ispchannel.com (smtp.ispchannel.com [24.142.63.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93B137B73C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murphree1@ispchannel.com) Received: from ispchannel.com ([206.128.247.59]) by smtp2a.ispchannel.com (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 7d3764cdaca754bf8ae20adf0db2aa60) with ESMTP id <20000730015033.RTIG382.smtp2a@ispchannel.com>; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:50:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3983896F.CC2A61A6@ispchannel.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:48:31 -0500 From: Mike Murphree X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Le Berre Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, fosburgh@flash.net Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? References: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000729132057.00b3b280@207.227.119.2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Philippe Le Berre wrote: > > Hi, > > I had this box running with MySQL, Perl, DBI and the MySQL DBD, > everything was running okay. Today I have cvsup'ed, buildworld, > buildkernel and so forth. After rebooting MySQL started, > fine...however all Perl's scripts using DBI failed ... Error in the > DBD::Mysql <> > oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but > it failed on make test with the same error? Did I miss something > with Perl when doing make buildworld & make installworld? This is kind of old, but could this be the source of the perl problems? From /usr/src/UPDATING: What follows are older entries for those people upgrading from earlier versions of -stable. 20000308: The binary interface of perl to its modules changed. You will need to recompile any perl moudles after an installworld. This includes all ports matching the pattern /usr/ports/*/p5-*. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 19: 5: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C5837B735 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from philippe@le-berre.com) Received: from [209.179.192.96] (pool0096.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.192.96]) by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22553; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: philippe.le.berre/le-berre.com@212.129.1.43 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3983896F.CC2A61A6@ispchannel.com> References: <4.3.2.20000729114028.00ac5a20@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000729132057.00b3b280@207.227.119.2> <3983896F.CC2A61A6@ispchannel.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:04:38 -0700 To: Mike Murphree From: Philippe Le Berre Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, fosburgh@flash.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:48 PM -0500 7/29/00, Mike Murphree wrote: >Philippe Le Berre wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I had this box running with MySQL, Perl, DBI and the MySQL DBD, >> everything was running okay. Today I have cvsup'ed, buildworld, >> buildkernel and so forth. After rebooting MySQL started, >> fine...however all Perl's scripts using DBI failed ... Error in the >> DBD::Mysql <> >> oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but >> it failed on make test with the same error? Did I miss something >> with Perl when doing make buildworld & make installworld? > >This is kind of old, but could this be the source of the perl problems? > >From /usr/src/UPDATING: > >What follows are older entries for those people upgrading from earlier >versions of -stable. > >20000308: > The binary interface of perl to its modules changed. You > will need to recompile any perl moudles after an > installworld. This includes all ports matching the pattern > /usr/ports/*/p5-*. That wasalso my first thought, that's why i have tried to redo the whole Data-ShowTable, DBI and DBD:MySQL install... but that ain't that or at least it's not enough. thanks, -philippe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 19: 6:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714EA37B56B for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id EA8D09B1C; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF072BA11; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: Tom Cc: Philippe Le Berre , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Tom wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Philippe Le Berre wrote: > > ... > > DBD::Mysql <> > > oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but > ... > > If you get an error that a shared library can't be loaded, you should > verify if you have it. libmysqlclient.so.X is included with MySQL. If > you have it, you should see why the dynamic linker can't find it. > Probably because the path to the library is no longer looked at by > ldconfig during bootup (see /etc/rc.conf). A quick fix is: > > ldconfig -m > Which is done automatically during boot in ${LOCALBASE}/etc/rc.d/mysql322-client.sh ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 19:11:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.qc.ca (epsilon.lucida.qc.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3854137B78C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET) Received: (qmail 44649 invoked by uid 1000); 30 Jul 2000 02:11:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2000 02:11:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: is fetch broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: : : Hi, : : Are you using an HTTP proxy? Have you tried the -b and/or -t options? I : get similar errors (and always have) if I don't use -b. No, I'm not using a proxy here at all. : Andrew * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE5g47HdMMtMcA1U5ARAj8XAKDr0wX7SnGvj51oDdz+U6Pi4oCfwwCfYHf6 CK/wDQxXtp+9Z6rXhWmgaWU= =oLbF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 19:30:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7018837B735 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:30:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13Iirx-0000r9-00; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:30:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:30:25 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: ym g , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, new-httpd@apache.org Subject: Re: Zen regarding accept filters Message-ID: <20000730023025.B1386@hand.dotat.at> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, new-httpd@apache.org References: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> Organization: Covalent Technologies, Inc Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [I've crossposted this to new-httpd@apache.org and freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] The patch to enable accept filters in Apache is quite simple (see below) but unfortunately the httpready filter breaks support for HTTP/0.9. I'm going to try to fix it but until that is done I don't think the patch should go into Apache without alerting people to this fact and making them define BREAK_OLD_HTTP at compile time... Tony. -- en oeccget g mtcaa f.a.n.finch v spdlkishrhtewe y dot@dotat.at eatp o v eiti i d. fanf@covalent.net --- apache-1.3/src/main/http_main.c 2000/07/29 23:56:19 1.507 +++ apache-1.3/src/main/http_main.c 2000/07/30 02:26:25 @@ -3398,6 +3398,34 @@ exit(1); } +#if defined(SO_ACCEPTFILTER) && defined(BREAK_OLD_HTTP) + { + /* + * FreeBSD has a feature called "accept filters" which delay the + * return from accept() until a condition has been met, e.g. an + * HTTP request has arrived. This postpones the requirement for a + * child process to handle the new connection which therefore + * increases the number of connections that a given number of + * child processes can handle. It also allows a child process to + * accomplish more immediately after accept() returns (because the + * request is already available to be read) so there is less + * context switching. This feature was added to FreeBSD-4.1-STABLE + * on the 28th of July 2000. + */ + struct accept_filter_arg af = { + "httpready", "" + }; + if (setsockopt(s, SOL_SOCKET, SO_ACCEPTFILTER, &af, sizeof(af)) < 0) { + ap_log_error(APLOG_MARK, APLOG_CRIT, server_conf, + "make_sock: for %s, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER)", + addr); + close(s); + ap_unblock_alarms(); + exit(1); + } + } +#endif + #ifdef WORKAROUND_SOLARIS_BUG s = ap_slack(s, AP_SLACK_HIGH); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 20: 6:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD4437B590 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 546842B22F; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:06:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:06:03 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: new-httpd@apache.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Alfred Perlstein , ym g Subject: Re: Zen regarding accept filters Message-ID: <20000729200603.A15316@elvis.mu.org> References: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000730023025.B1386@hand.dotat.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000730023025.B1386@hand.dotat.at>; from dot@dotat.at on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 02:30:25AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This should also incorporate a check for __FreeBSD_version >= 410001. Also, the fact that it breaks HTTP/0.9 isn't really a big deal if you are going to enable this feature. Also, the code path for this is meant to be quick and trying to make it support HTTP/0.9 will probably not be worth the effort since this is done for performance and it really does make a large difference on heavy hit sites. If a browser only support HTTP/0.9, then I doubt they will be able to even view most modern website. -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? Tony Finch (dot@dotat.at) wrote: > [I've crossposted this to new-httpd@apache.org and freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] > > The patch to enable accept filters in Apache is quite simple (see > below) but unfortunately the httpready filter breaks support for > HTTP/0.9. I'm going to try to fix it but until that is done I don't > think the patch should go into Apache without alerting people to this > fact and making them define BREAK_OLD_HTTP at compile time... > > Tony. > -- > en oeccget g mtcaa f.a.n.finch > v spdlkishrhtewe y dot@dotat.at > eatp o v eiti i d. fanf@covalent.net > > > --- apache-1.3/src/main/http_main.c 2000/07/29 23:56:19 1.507 > +++ apache-1.3/src/main/http_main.c 2000/07/30 02:26:25 > @@ -3398,6 +3398,34 @@ > exit(1); > } > > +#if defined(SO_ACCEPTFILTER) && defined(BREAK_OLD_HTTP) > + { > + /* > + * FreeBSD has a feature called "accept filters" which delay the > + * return from accept() until a condition has been met, e.g. an > + * HTTP request has arrived. This postpones the requirement for a > + * child process to handle the new connection which therefore > + * increases the number of connections that a given number of > + * child processes can handle. It also allows a child process to > + * accomplish more immediately after accept() returns (because the > + * request is already available to be read) so there is less > + * context switching. This feature was added to FreeBSD-4.1-STABLE > + * on the 28th of July 2000. > + */ > + struct accept_filter_arg af = { > + "httpready", "" > + }; > + if (setsockopt(s, SOL_SOCKET, SO_ACCEPTFILTER, &af, sizeof(af)) < 0) { > + ap_log_error(APLOG_MARK, APLOG_CRIT, server_conf, > + "make_sock: for %s, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER)", > + addr); > + close(s); > + ap_unblock_alarms(); > + exit(1); > + } > + } > +#endif > + > #ifdef WORKAROUND_SOLARIS_BUG > s = ap_slack(s, AP_SLACK_HIGH); > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 20:22:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD01237BA04 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13Ijfe-0000x1-00; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:21:46 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:21:46 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: Paul Saab Cc: new-httpd@apache.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Alfred Perlstein , ym g Subject: Re: Zen regarding accept filters Message-ID: <20000730032146.C1386@hand.dotat.at> References: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000730023025.B1386@hand.dotat.at> <20000729200603.A15316@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000729200603.A15316@elvis.mu.org> Organization: Covalent Technologies, Inc Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Saab wrote: > >This should also incorporate a check for __FreeBSD_version >= 410001. I would have thought the check for the existence of SO_ACCEPTFILTER is sufficient. >Also, the fact that it breaks HTTP/0.9 isn't really a big deal if you >are going to enable this feature. Yes, but it does mean that it cannot be enabled by default (since Apache must be standards-compliant), which is a bit bogus. However you can use the "dataready" filter and get most of the benefit of the "httpready" filter without breaking HTTP/0.9. There are a few user agents that send request headers in more than one packet (e.g. Netscape when it's sending a POST) but it isn't very common. Tony. -- en oeccget g mtcaa f.a.n.finch v spdlkishrhtewe y dot@dotat.at eatp o v eiti i d. fanf@covalent.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 20:28:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5FD37B58C for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e6U3Sgv25162; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:28:41 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Tony Finch Cc: Paul Saab , new-httpd@apache.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ym g Subject: Re: Zen regarding accept filters Message-ID: <20000729202841.O21967@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000730023025.B1386@hand.dotat.at> <20000729200603.A15316@elvis.mu.org> <20000730032146.C1386@hand.dotat.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000730032146.C1386@hand.dotat.at>; from dot@dotat.at on Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 03:21:46AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Tony Finch [000729 20:22] wrote: > Paul Saab wrote: > > > >This should also incorporate a check for __FreeBSD_version >= 410001. > > I would have thought the check for the existence of SO_ACCEPTFILTER is > sufficient. > > >Also, the fact that it breaks HTTP/0.9 isn't really a big deal if you > >are going to enable this feature. > > Yes, but it does mean that it cannot be enabled by default (since > Apache must be standards-compliant), which is a bit bogus. However you > can use the "dataready" filter and get most of the benefit of the > "httpready" filter without breaking HTTP/0.9. There are a few user > agents that send request headers in more than one packet (e.g. > Netscape when it's sending a POST) but it isn't very common. It's been discussed before, the main culprits are sessions with large sized cookies along with very large GET requests which can force 4-6 context switches without the filters. And there are reported sightings of browsers sending data one character at a time. :( -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 20:33:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anarchy.io.com (anarchy.io.com [199.170.88.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2B137BA0D for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eighner@io.com) Received: from dumpster.io.com.io.com (as1-dialup-27.io.com [206.224.82.27]) by anarchy.io.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA11087 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:33:43 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: OSTYPE and MACHINETYPE From: Lars Eighner Date: 29 Jul 2000 22:40:19 -0500 Message-ID: <868zukmgkc.fsf@dumpster.io.com> Lines: 6 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Capitol Reef" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where are the environmental variables OSTYPE and MACHINETYPE set? Mine still read "freebsd3.4" and "i386--freebsd3.4". -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/ Nine out of ten doctors agree that one out of ten doctors is an idiot. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 21:18:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DA737B512 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca ([204.244.186.218]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13IkY5-000KiP-00; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:18:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:17:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: Philippe Le Berre , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Tom wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Philippe Le Berre wrote: > > > > ... > > > DBD::Mysql <> > > > oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but > > ... > > > > If you get an error that a shared library can't be loaded, you should > > verify if you have it. libmysqlclient.so.X is included with MySQL. If > > you have it, you should see why the dynamic linker can't find it. > > Probably because the path to the library is no longer looked at by > > ldconfig during bootup (see /etc/rc.conf). A quick fix is: > > > > ldconfig -m > > > > Which is done automatically during boot in > ${LOCALBASE}/etc/rc.d/mysql322-client.sh ...assuming that you use the port, which many do not. I like the ability to do transparent upgrades so I build my own, with each version having its own subdirectory. > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > -------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org Tom Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 21:57:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C9537B696 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4c-102.ix.netcom.com [209.110.246.102]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA32358; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 00:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ED789E6AE4; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:57:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: jedgar@fxp.org Cc: tom@uniserve.com, philippe@le-berre.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (jedgar@fxp.org) Subject: Re: Perl modules after buildworld? References: Message-Id: <20000730045700.ED789E6AE4@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aha - this is done _after_ apache loads. I think I just figured out why my mod_perl DBD stuff fails on startup but not when I start apache... - Mike H. Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net Cc: Philippe Le Berre , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Tom wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Philippe Le Berre wrote: > > ... > > DBD::Mysql <> > > oops. I have tried to delete & re-install the Mysql perl modules but > ... > > If you get an error that a shared library can't be loaded, you should > verify if you have it. libmysqlclient.so.X is included with MySQL. If > you have it, you should see why the dynamic linker can't find it. > Probably because the path to the library is no longer looked at by > ldconfig during bootup (see /etc/rc.conf). A quick fix is: > > ldconfig -m > Which is done automatically during boot in ${LOCALBASE}/etc/rc.d/mysql322-client.sh ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 22: 0:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hand.dotat.at (sfo-gw.covalent.net [207.44.198.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F9A37B696 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@dotat.at) Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 13IlCh-0003C4-00; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:59:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:59:58 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Paul Saab , new-httpd@apache.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ym g Subject: Re: Zen regarding accept filters Message-ID: <20000730045958.D1386@hand.dotat.at> References: <20000729130953.10802.qmail@graffiti.net> <20000729104309.D21967@fw.wintelcom.net> <20000730023025.B1386@hand.dotat.at> <20000729200603.A15316@elvis.mu.org> <20000730032146.C1386@hand.dotat.at> <20000729202841.O21967@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000729202841.O21967@fw.wintelcom.net> Organization: Covalent Technologies, Inc Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, here's what I hope is the final patch. It uses "dataready" by default but it can be persuaded to use "httpready" if you really want. It also handles the case where the accept filter is not available in the kernel (should it be less noisy about this?). And, as a bonus, it even comes with documentation! I decided that fixing "httpready" to properly matching an HTTP request is too painful and that this was a fair compromise. I'm also slightly worried about the opportunity for clients to stuff the server's socket buffers with incomplete HTTP requests which is another reason for not using "httpready". There remains one more issue which I am unsure about and that is that there seems to be no timeout on these un-accepted connections for either filter. Tony. -- en oeccget g mtcaa f.a.n.finch v spdlkishrhtewe y dot@dotat.at eatp o v eiti i d. fanf@covalent.net ? diff ? src/main/http_main.c.diff Index: htdocs/manual/misc/perf-bsd44.html =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-docs-1.3/htdocs/manual/misc/perf-bsd44.html,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 perf-bsd44.html --- htdocs/manual/misc/perf-bsd44.html 1998/09/17 14:14:53 1.13 +++ htdocs/manual/misc/perf-bsd44.html 2000/07/30 04:28:28 @@ -242,6 +242,70 @@ often maxed out.

+ +

Accept filtering on FreeBSD

+ + +

+ +Versions of FreeBSD from August 2000 onwards include a feature called +"accept filters" which delay the return from accept() until +a condition has been met, e.g. an HTTP request has arrived. This +postpones the requirement for a child process to handle the new +connection which therefore increases the number of connections that a +given number of child processes can handle. It also allows a child +process to accomplish more immediately after accept() returns (because +the request is already available to be read) so there is less context +switching. + +

+ +There are two filters in FreeBSD at the time of writing: +"dataready" and "httpready". The former just waits +for the first packet to arrive from the client; the latter waits for +the end of the HTTP headers. Unfortunately the "httpready" +filter breaks support for HTTP/0.9 (which doesn't have headers) so +Apache doesn't use it, but the "dataready" filter gives the +same benefit in the majority of cases so Apache attempts to use that +instead. + +

+ +Accept filters provide the most benefit on servers that are already so +busy that they are configured with "KeepAlive Off". +HTTP KeepAlive (aka persistent connections) +avoids the cost of setting up a new connection for every request, but +connections that are being kept alive use up one of the available +child processes. Since there are a limited number of child processes +this can significantly reduce the capacity of the server. The viewers +of a web site will still get a lot of the benefit of persistent +connections even with a very small KeepAliveTimeout so +you should try reducing it before turning it off altogether. + +

+ +To enable accept filtering, you must either load the appropriate +accept filter module, +e.g. with the command kldload accf_data, +or compile a kernel with options ACCEPT_FILTER_DATA. +Apache will then enable filtering when it is restarted. + +

+ +If you are more concerned about performance than compatibility with +brain-dead HTTP/0.9 user agents then you can recompile Apache to use +the "httpready" filter. This may be particularly helpful if +your web site uses really big cookies, for example. +If you are using src/Configure then add +-DACCEPT_FILTER_NAME=\"httpready\" to the +EXTRA_CFLAGS line in the src/Configuration +file. +If you are using APACI (aka ./configure) then use the command +CFLAGS=-DACCEPT_FILTER_NAME=\'\"httpready\"\' ./configure +(with all the funky backslashed quotes). + +

+

More welcome!

Index: htdocs/manual/misc/perf.html =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-docs-1.3/htdocs/manual/misc/perf.html,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 perf.html --- htdocs/manual/misc/perf.html 1998/09/17 14:14:53 1.24 +++ htdocs/manual/misc/perf.html 2000/07/30 04:28:28 @@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ Quick and detailed performance tuning hints for BSD-derived systems. +Accept filtering on FreeBSD.

Index: src/CHANGES =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/apache-1.3/src/CHANGES,v retrieving revision 1.1562 diff -u -r1.1562 CHANGES --- src/CHANGES 2000/07/03 15:24:22 1.1562 +++ src/CHANGES 2000/07/30 04:28:30 @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ Changes with Apache 1.3.13 + *) Use "accept filtering" on recent versions of FreeBSD to avoid + having to handle new connections until the request has arrived. + [Tony Finch] + *) Win32 NT and 2000 services now capture stderr messages that occur before Apache's logs are opened to the Application Event Log. Console and Win9x services now hold the console open for 30 seconds Index: src/main/http_main.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/apache-1.3/src/main/http_main.c,v retrieving revision 1.507 diff -u -r1.507 http_main.c --- src/main/http_main.c 2000/07/29 23:56:19 1.507 +++ src/main/http_main.c 2000/07/30 04:28:31 @@ -3398,6 +3398,36 @@ exit(1); } +#if defined(SO_ACCEPTFILTER) + { + /* + * See htdocs/manual/misc/perf-bsd44.html + */ +#ifndef ACCEPT_FILTER_NAME +#define ACCEPT_FILTER_NAME "dataready" +#endif + struct accept_filter_arg af = { + ACCEPT_FILTER_NAME, "" + }; + if (setsockopt(s, SOL_SOCKET, SO_ACCEPTFILTER, &af, sizeof(af)) < 0) { + if (errno == ENOENT) { + ap_log_error(APLOG_MARK, APLOG_NOERRNO|APLOG_WARNING, NULL, + "make_sock: for %s, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER) " + "accept filter %s not found, using unfiltered accept()", + addr, af.af_name); + } + else { + ap_log_error(APLOG_MARK, APLOG_CRIT, server_conf, + "make_sock: for %s, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER)", + addr); + close(s); + ap_unblock_alarms(); + exit(1); + } + } + } +#endif + #ifdef WORKAROUND_SOLARIS_BUG s = ap_slack(s, AP_SLACK_HIGH); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 22:42:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03CD37B983; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (chimp [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA83256; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:42:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000730013154.047c2b58@mail.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@mail.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:37:23 -0400 To: andrew@ugh.net.au, Ben Smithurst From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: is fetch broken? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, des@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: References: <20000729174208.F59315@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:10 AM 7/30/2000 +1000, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: >Hi, > >Are you using an HTTP proxy? Have you tried the -b and/or -t options? I >get similar errors (and always have) if I don't use -b. No. The only 'odd' thing is that I am using PPPoE. cage% fetch "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev =1.2" Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (187.47 kBps) fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes cage% fetch -b "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev =1.2" fetch: warning: the -b option is deprecated Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (146.14 kBps) fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes cage% fetch -t "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-wm/icewm-i18n/pkg/DESCR?rev =1.2" fetch: warning: the -t option is deprecated Receiving DESCR?rev=1.2 (4294967295 bytes): 0% 258 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (58.89 kBps) fetch: DESCR?rev=1.2 appears to be truncated: 258/4294967295 bytes cage% But even on a machine thats straight ethernet, the same errors. There are no proxies transparent or direct involved. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jul 29 23: 0:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [213.212.29.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000E537B8C8 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAB51C7B6; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:00:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:00:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: Lars Eighner Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OSTYPE and MACHINETYPE In-Reply-To: <868zukmgkc.fsf@dumpster.io.com> Message-ID: Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 29 Jul 2000, Lars Eighner wrote: | Where are the environmental variables OSTYPE and MACHINETYPE | set? Mine still read "freebsd3.4" and "i386--freebsd3.4". At compiletime of the shell. A de- and reinstall of your shell will fix this. | Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 Public PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message