Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 02:33:57 -0600 From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com> To: dyson@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/db/hash hash_buf.c Message-ID: <199610190833.CAA29984@zeus.theos.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:17:01 CDT." <199610190817.DAA03053@dyson.iquest.net>
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This was posted by John Dyson, as yet another flame, to the OpenBSD lists. But if FreeBSD people are going to behave impolitely then it is only fair and right for FreeBSD users to see how FreeBSD developers are pissing off others who might at some point have helped them (We helped, we gave you a fix. The kern_sig.c:coredump() fix is NOT enough). You are not helping FreeBSD users by angering the OpenBSD community thus. -------------------- > Actually, the OpenBSD team started it, please leave the FreeBSD > lists alone unless you have something to offer... That is incorrect, John. Jason's post was in partly in humour. And obviously you were in humour too now that you know 1 of the problems is NFS, and you suggest shutting NFS down. > BTW, I sure am doing good things, I have still offered to help you with > your broken VM system (that really doesn't work very well.) I sure am doing good things too. But I'm not helping pkh. > Look at the above statement, and show me how it is different from > Jason's original statement? Oh, that's right, I offer to help > at least a little. OpenBSD is not reciprocating... Sad... I'm not helping pkh. > OpenBSD -- all take and no give!!! New motto!!! Baloney. We gave you a fix, you are now deciding to drop it, that is ok. But not before your team is jumping up and down a bit and calling us losers for suggesting or making the change. Sorry John, you need to check a bit more carefully what happened. Careful attention makes for good programmers, and you are a good programmer, so go apply a bit of that skill to your mailbox. You will see that you were being extremely challenging in your mail; you were basically BEGGING for a flame war. I wish you good luck with turning NFS off to save yourself from your little coredump problem.. But there are other problems with this approach too. Security is a very subtle business, one which one does not benchmark except perhaps by things like "Oh, another sendmail bug, well golly gee, we have that fixed already in another way and we are not vulnerable". (Like, you really think the only gecos overflow was in sendmail?) Ok, I am stopping giving you fixes and reports immediately. You have been making personal attacks, and I hereby promise to not give you any fixes for at least the next 2 months. The accusatory tone is way out of line, I've had it; you suck. End of story.
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