From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 2 09:21:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8757E106566B; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 09:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjoe@samodelkin.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C0E8FC13; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 09:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so4156566ggn.13 for ; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:21:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.88.99 with SMTP id bf3mr2128880obb.73.1322817674193; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.76.225 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 01:21:14 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.92.220.178] In-Reply-To: <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 16:21:14 +0700 Message-ID: From: Max Khon To: obrien@freebsd.org, Max Khon , Doug Barton , Steve Kargl , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:21:15 -0000 David, On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:35 PM, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 11:56:31AM +0700, Max Khon wrote: >> You still failed to name a single compelling reason to leave profiled >> libs even in -CURRENT. > > Sorry Joe, I don't think your reasoning is compelling. > I'm sure you know how to stick "NO_PROFILE=3Dtrue" in your /etc/src.conf. > > How far do you want to take this? =C2=A0By this reasoning we should set a= ll > the knobs to "NO" to speed up the build. =C2=A0I mean we're all competent > code builders running FreeBSD-current and know how to enable knobs in > /etc/src.conf. > > Is speeding up the build import important to you then the default > base system being an comfortable featureful development environment? The most important thing is to have reasonable defaults. Having WITH_PROFILE by default does not seem to be a reasonable default to = me. Max