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Date:      Mon, 28 May 2018 13:35:41 -0600
From:      Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>
To:        yuri@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r471061 - head/audio/qjackctl
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From: Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org>
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r471061 - head/audio/qjackctl
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On 05/28/18 13:11, Yuri wrote:
> On 05/28/18 12:02, Sean Bruno wrote:
>> The problem I am describing is that *if* I am using applications that
>> are QT4 only, this change now forces me too build QT5 to get this one
>> port built.
>>
>> Maybe its better to leave QT4 in place but make QT5 the default?
>=20
>=20
> I made such changes before (deprecate Qt4) elsewhere and nobody complai=
ned.

I didn't know I was complaining.  I thought I was asking about a change
you made and trying to engage in a civil conversation about it.

>=20
> It's like if some package is updated from mypkg-4.0 to mypkg-5.0, the
> port changes to mypkg-5.0, and the users have to update. The ports
> system doesn't provide a way to stay with mypkg-4.0. Why Qt should be
> different? It has to deprecate Qt4 at some point. Qt4 hasn't been shown=

> to provide any benefit, generally.
>=20
>=20
This happens quite a lot actually.  I don't find this argument valid.

Is there information from Portmgr or the team that maintains/works on QT
saying that QT4 is going to be deprecated?  I couldn't find one if it
exists.

> If some app doesn't support Qt4, you should complain to that app, IMO.
> Your situation sounds like a fringe case that most users don't care abo=
ut.
>=20
>=20
But, this app DOES support QT4.  Until this change was made, it ran and
built just fine.  It also builds and runs just fine with QT5, so I don't
have any objection to the default of QT5.  Defaulting to QT5 seems very
sensible to me.

sean


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