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Date:      Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:11:43 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        "Paul Richards.width" <paul@originative.co.uk>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Committers <cvs-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: How about building modules along with the kernel? (was:  cvs commit: src/sys/modules/syscons/fire fire_saver.c  src/sys/modules/syscons/rain rain_saver.c src/sys/modules/syscons/warp  warp_saver.c)
Message-ID:  <200004280111.e3S1Bil36893@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:13:56 BST." <3906CF74.1AEBFD09@originative.co.uk> 

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In message <3906CF74.1AEBFD09@originative.co.uk>, "Paul Richards.width" 
writes:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
> > 
> > On Tuesday, 25 April 2000 at 23:40:16 -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 11:48:27PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > >> Tell you what.  Let the discussion carry on.  If there's no movement by
> > >> Friday, I'll stick the offer back up.  I just want to insure that it
> > >> doesn't die (again) by being stuck onto a proposal for too grand a desig
> n.
> > >
> > > The discussion should be moved to freebsd-arch then.
> > >
> > > FOLLOWS UP DIRECTED THERE.  PLEASE *REMOVE* cvs-all & cvs-committers from
> > > this thread.
> > 
> > In theory, that's all well and good.  But look what wc -l tells me:
> > 
> >      679 cvs-all
> >     1739 freebsd-current
> >      481 freebsd-arch
> > 
> > cvs-all doesn't appear to be a real mailing list, be we all know that
> > there are about 200 people there.  That means nearly 900 people on the
> > (mutually exclusive) cvs lists, at least another 800 over in -current,
> > less than 500 in -arch.  You can't force a committer to join -arch,
> > which is why I still prefer -committers.
> 
> But the reason that not all committers join arch is because not all
> committers are "arch" hackers. The committers list includes ports people
> and docs people. The -arch list is the correct place for this discussion
> and the sort of people interested in it will be over there.
> 
> There used to be (still is but everyone ignores it) a policy that
> discussions should not take place on any committers lists because they
> are for the notification of commits and nothing more. There are a myriad
> other lists for holding technical discussions.

Two points:

1.  If architectural discussions take place on -committers, 
non-committers
    should be allowed to join and contribute.

2.  Mailing lists like the Tru64-UNIX list disallow replies.  You can 
ask
    a question and can send a summary of private replies.  I belive all
    they do is key on "re:" in the subject line.  Would this be an 
option
    for -committers?


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Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
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