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Date:      Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:40:48 +0200
From:      Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, Ed Schouten <ed@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Christoph Mallon <christoph.mallon@gmx.de>, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r200369 - in head: etc share/termcap
Message-ID:  <4B236520.7040204@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <4B236403.2080408@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200912102225.nBAMPrZx076758@svn.freebsd.org>	<ygek4wtgyp4.wl%ume@mahoroba.org>	<19235.10488.325168.267306@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4B232E39.4000305@FreeBSD.org> <4B236147.7030603@gmx.de> <4B236403.2080408@FreeBSD.org>

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on 12/12/2009 11:36 Doug Barton said the following:
> Christoph Mallon wrote:
>> Doug Barton wrote:
>>> Garrett Wollman wrote:
>>>> <<On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:20:07 +0900, Hajimu UMEMOTO
>>>> <ume@FreeBSD.org> said:
>>>>
>>>>> It's great, thank!!
>>>>> I believe that our xterm entry was modified not to clear screen when
>>>>> applications such as less(1) are terminated.  Are there any chance to
>>>>> back to the behavior?
>>>> <aol/>
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why people put up with the unspeakably obnoxious
>>>> "alternate screen" behavior.  Please don't tell me someone actually
>>>> thinks it's *useful*.
>>> I actually liked having the remnants of whatever I was looking at in
>>> $PAGER left behind on the screen, and would appreciate it if someone
>>> could tell me how to restore that locally.
>> %echo $LESS
>> -X
> 
> Yeah, I should have been more clear. I am aware of that solution for
> less, but I also dislike this behavior for vi, etc. Basically, I want
> to know what to twiddle to get the old behavior back.

Perhaps, Ed? :-)
Seriously, I think that this change is a mild POLA violation, which neither was
discussed nor welcome as it seems.  Perhaps, not even planned.
So I believe that termcap should be changed back to traditional behavior for
FreeBSD.  At least for now.

-- 
Andriy Gapon



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