From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 20 14:54:22 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B7A5AB937 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 14:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2kLQ0ZYfz4cb8 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 14:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:a350:998f:e9fd:df9c:7ad3:d244] (unknown [172.58.140.141]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3447D4E652; Sat, 20 Mar 2021 09:54:21 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: Call to delay EOL of 11.x -> Re: OS to replace FreeBSD From: Valeri Galtsev In-Reply-To: <20210320135740.c10f4d671d34ce6590527eb6@sohara.org> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 09:54:19 -0500 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7270A6A8-4514-4B61-80AD-7812CC0AEFD7@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <5743CB5D-338C-4609-8E89-396440926CEC@videotron.ca> <20210319110001.00000bf8@seibercom.net> <4602cbad-bf26-18d1-83e6-cba9627787d8@johnea.net> <90FEC704-1764-43E7-BEFA-C9481CF14714@kreme.com> <20210320083808.00000cb1@seibercom.net> <20210320093304.00001e37@seibercom.net> <20210320135740.c10f4d671d34ce6590527eb6@sohara.org> To: Steve O'Hara-Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F2kLQ0ZYfz4cb8 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[172.58.140.141:received]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[172.58.140.141:received]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.20)[0.197]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.41)[-0.408]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[128.135.20.70:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 14:54:22 -0000 > On Mar 20, 2021, at 8:57 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith = wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 09:33:04 -0400 > Jerry wrote: >=20 >> I CANNOT install it,=20 >=20 > Perhaps I am misunderstanding the situation. AIUI the install > completes it is just that the default console is spammed by error = messages > so you can't see the login prompt (it is actually possible to log in = and > work under these conditions but it is hideous to do). Fortunately = there is > a better option, there are several active virtual consoles available = by > hitting Alt-F simply switch to one of those, log in and proceed as > normal. >=20 I had to install FreeBSD not in GUI but in text menu mode once on the = machine producing constant stream of messages (USB related on console). = In my case I was booting off USB medium. That effectively obliterated my = ability to interact with menu. The solution to that was to suppress console messages: when boot menu appears do "ESCape to loader prompt=E2=80=9D. Then in in boot prompt: set boot_mute=3D=E2=80=9CYES=E2=80=9D boot After that there were no console messages, and I was able to = successfully do installation. In general, to suppress console messages on already installed system, = you can add to /boot/loader.conf: boot_mute=3D"YES" I hope, this helps. Valeri >> so I am unsure of how to build a custom kernel. >> Then, assuming I could build a custom kernel, I would not be able to >> use the "freebsd update" utility. >=20 > Of course you can use freebsd-update with a custom kernel, I do = it > all the time. It just adds the extra step of compiling your custom = kernel > before rebooting after the update. My usual sequence for this is: >=20 > freebsd-update fetch > freebsd-update install > cd /usr/src > make kernel > reboot >=20 > NB: make kernel works because I have kernconf set in = /etc/make.conf > to the name of my custom kernel config. >=20 >> So, to put it in the vernacular, >> "I am fucked if I do, and fucked if I don't". >=20 > Nope, you just have to understand how to get yourself out of the > hole. >=20 > --=20 > Steve O'Hara-Smith > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"