From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Mon May 28 19:35:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6772BF79CFE; Mon, 28 May 2018 19:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ignoranthack.me (ignoranthack.me [199.102.79.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E83D47D552; Mon, 28 May 2018 19:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (67-0-245-183.albq.qwest.net [67.0.245.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sbruno@ignoranthack.me) by mail.ignoranthack.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36497192888; Mon, 28 May 2018 11:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r471061 - head/audio/qjackctl To: yuri@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201805281845.w4SIj8bO065379@repo.freebsd.org> <985846ee-dce7-d8f1-2813-0a28bc36217e@freebsd.org> <5dddd567-3439-caa3-56d0-665a40bdbf35@freebsd.org> <77503afc-b631-ac32-a87b-c8a28e0bb2ab@freebsd.org> From: Sean Bruno Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=sbruno@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFk+0UEBCADaf4bgxxKvMOhRV5NPoGWRCCGm49d6+1VFNlQ77WsY/+Zvf95TPULdRlnG w648KfxWt7+O3kdKhdRwnqlXWC7zA2Qt0dRE1yIqOGJ4jp4INvp/bcxWzgr0aoKOjrlnfxRV bh+s0rzdZt6TsNL3cVYxkC8oezjaUkHdW4mFJU249U1QJogkF8g0FeKNfEcjEkwJNX6lQJH+ EzCWT0NCk6J+Xyo+zOOljxPp1OUfdvZi3ulkU/qTZstGVWxFVsP8xQklV/y3AFcbIYx6iGJ4 5L7WuB0IWhO7Z4yHENr8wFaNYwpod9i4egX2BugbrM8pOfhN2/qqdeG1L5LMtXw3yyAhABEB AAHNN1NlYW4gQnJ1bm8gKEZyZWVCU0QgRGV2ZWxvcGVyIEtleSkgPHNicnVub0BmcmVlYnNk Lm9yZz7CwJQEEwEKAD4WIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbAwUJBaOagAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAwIBAAIeAQIXgAAKCRC95PX+ibX8ttKTCACFKzRc56EBAlVotq02EjZP SfX+unlk6AuPBzShxqRxeK+bGYVCigrYd1M8nnskv0dEiZ5iYeND9HIxbpEyopqgpVTibA7w gBXaZ7SOEhNX1wXwg14JrralfSmPFMYni+sWegPMX/zwfAsn1z4mG1Nn44Xqo3o7CfpkMPy6 M5Bow2IDzIhEYISLR+urxs74/aHU35PLtBSDtu18914SEMDdva27MARN8mbeCDbuJVfGCPWy YHuy2t+9u2Zn5Dd+t3sBXLM9gpeaMm+4x6TNPpESygbVdh4tDdjVZ9DK/bWFg0kMgfZoaq6J l0jNsQXrZV3bzYNFbVw04pFcvA2GIJ7xzsBNBFk+0UEBCADIXBmQOaKMHGbc9vwjhV4Oj5aZ DdhNedn12FVeTdOXJvuTOusgxS29lla0RenHGDsgD08UiFpasBXWq/E+BhQ19d+iRbLLR17O KKc1ZGefoVbLARLXD68J5j4XAyK+6k2KqBLlqzAEpHTzsksM9naARkVXiEVcrt6ciw0FSm8n kuK3gDKKe93XfzfP+TQdbvvzJc7Fa+appLbXz61TM1aikaQlda8bWubDegwXbuoJdB34xU1m yjr/N4o+raL0x7QrzdH+wwgrTTo+H4S2c1972Skt5K5tbxLowfHicRl23V8itVQr3sBtlX4+ 66q+Apm7+R36bUS/k+G45Sp6iPpxABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYWIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbDAUJBaOagAAKCRC95PX+ibX8trrIB/9Pljqt/JGamD9tx4dOVmxSyFg9 z2xzgklTLuDgS73MM120mM7ao9AQUeWiSle/H0UCK7xPOzC/aeUC4oygDQKAfkkNbCNTo3+A qDjBRA8qx0e9a/QjDL+RFgD4L5kLT4tToY8T8HaBp8h03LBfk510IaI8oL/Jg7vpM3PDtJMW tUi2H+yNFmL3NfM2oBToWKLFsoP54f/eeeImrNnrlLjLHPzqS+/9apgYqX2Jwiv3tHBc4FTO GuY8VvF7BpixJs8Pc2RUuCfSyodrp1YG1kRGlXAH0cqwwr0Zmk4+7dZvtVQMCl6kS6q1+84q JwtItxS2eXSEA4NO0sQ3BXUywANh Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 13:35:41 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77503afc-b631-ac32-a87b-c8a28e0bb2ab@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a47mlyj6kGbKKIiKI9RtuJVJhjkGevpD2" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 19:35:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --a47mlyj6kGbKKIiKI9RtuJVJhjkGevpD2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="DUA3qBmshLybjW8KpGCcSVph8aCY6v2JS"; protected-headers="v1" From: Sean Bruno To: yuri@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r471061 - head/audio/qjackctl References: <201805281845.w4SIj8bO065379@repo.freebsd.org> <985846ee-dce7-d8f1-2813-0a28bc36217e@freebsd.org> <5dddd567-3439-caa3-56d0-665a40bdbf35@freebsd.org> <77503afc-b631-ac32-a87b-c8a28e0bb2ab@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <77503afc-b631-ac32-a87b-c8a28e0bb2ab@freebsd.org> --DUA3qBmshLybjW8KpGCcSVph8aCY6v2JS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/28/18 13:11, Yuri wrote: > On 05/28/18 12:02, Sean Bruno wrote: >> The problem I am describing is that *if* I am using applications that >> are QT4 only, this change now forces me too build QT5 to get this one >> port built. >> >> Maybe its better to leave QT4 in place but make QT5 the default? >=20 >=20 > I made such changes before (deprecate Qt4) elsewhere and nobody complai= ned. I didn't know I was complaining. I thought I was asking about a change you made and trying to engage in a civil conversation about it. >=20 > It's like if some package is updated from mypkg-4.0 to mypkg-5.0, the > port changes to mypkg-5.0, and the users have to update. The ports > system doesn't provide a way to stay with mypkg-4.0. Why Qt should be > different? It has to deprecate Qt4 at some point. Qt4 hasn't been shown= > to provide any benefit, generally. >=20 >=20 This happens quite a lot actually. I don't find this argument valid. Is there information from Portmgr or the team that maintains/works on QT saying that QT4 is going to be deprecated? I couldn't find one if it exists. > If some app doesn't support Qt4, you should complain to that app, IMO. > Your situation sounds like a fringe case that most users don't care abo= ut. >=20 >=20 But, this app DOES support QT4. Until this change was made, it ran and built just fine. It also builds and runs just fine with QT5, so I don't have any objection to the default of QT5. Defaulting to QT5 seems very sensible to me. sean --DUA3qBmshLybjW8KpGCcSVph8aCY6v2JS-- --a47mlyj6kGbKKIiKI9RtuJVJhjkGevpD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE6MTp+IA1BOHj9Lo0veT1/om1/LYFAlsMWg1fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEU4 QzRFOUY4ODAzNTA0RTFFM0Y0QkEzNEJERTRGNUZFODlCNUZDQjYACgkQveT1/om1 /LY4jwgAi4xK+mIYKnegH2u7K/brh7rPZcqjBMljMZZgtQ6dfivvdGsljJKaamf5 1qPeK813MnbRiSPxjjkYmkubnNyD2oZqDXWS0J50XPOtxMsg3lYM+TPQzKf9tI4N NgL+Key9tL3abLNzCVJrQnv++6b8HclD99giDEa9Drq3GR9F+Fq9Q9RmtA/EtFQg qrEBIq2w5PBwiGMyXZlzNgWyO+CkU/i4FBN3Rw5Egy6Wrad87t2hjxtKgVAsOC8a Dnq3X7JfoMqnjncBls3sAm0fFlsgsh56zoYl7Wy8TOGAie6zKAdVSUtJZQEK1Ix1 bamPxUCHWDvoNWv7o+U4bQHJxNw7dw== =+HMY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a47mlyj6kGbKKIiKI9RtuJVJhjkGevpD2--