From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Nov 5 23:34:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B36A279B8; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 23:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ig0-x22f.google.com (mail-ig0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 129091477; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 23:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: by igbdj2 with SMTP id dj2so22609838igb.1; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 15:34:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5Kgv6x/+F2y1T6QizCyuGEpCz1cTcpjIwF6Eeu6zOyo=; b=TnMyEO6zFObQsuRl0C9WnnMcl5mnqFnoUFCUh3MzYBAJLjp4hL2eyiJ9g2tf9pey3w j/5EAonP9WPUrffM4ankvH/+9VT4rH+fxKijxZFtAtuj8N9hW59yGEMtgi4rqrHrGuoQ 83tw7Mor5xo5cRmiFDYEZcLwBv2JyJZbjPB5LQ6Hn/eayQ8HQcxotWxb0M628VjQFT1y vI8ZokwftKRFNF6hHu98Xw3w0glzqzA1ZiOkIvMw9uVpOzQ5alfO5IvbPCbwNaAKLbp8 Ui6jivEGS564pDUbb2TvK/Yfc8Yvc65hcudrny3Udox+liqH/qRkoHZgmW+SGYfRZqn1 h5pA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.6.36 with SMTP id x4mr5863631igx.61.1446766466437; Thu, 05 Nov 2015 15:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.217.196 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:34:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151105232431.GE31432@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <20151104214451.GF47630@server.rulingia.com> <20151105232431.GE31432@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 15:34:26 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 From: Adrian Chadd To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: Peter Jeremy , Sean Bruno , freebsd-sparc64 , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 23:34:27 -0000 On 5 November 2015 at 15:24, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 02:13:29PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> We don't have to expect clang support to work. Just having someone >> champion the external toolchain stuff and getting sparc64 >> world/kernel/release building from say, sparc64-gcc 5.x would be >> enough. >> > sparc64 has been the first arch that have been tested with external toolchain: > build and run just fine. > > The problem with the external toolchain is that if you are not able to cross > build the ports until you get a working toolchain available via packages, you > are doomed. > > And we do not have that Right. You don't end up with a toolchain built if you use an external toolchain to build. I discovered this amusement when I first got this up for MIPS. :) -adrian