Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:48:24 +0100 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: jackoroses@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions Message-ID: <20091211044824.5275b6ea.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1d001f850912100557n7cd73b64g61e130e0148bb434@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> <1d001f850912100557n7cd73b64g61e130e0148bb434@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:57:44 -0500, Mike L <jackoroses@gmail.com> wrote: > all I gotta say is I just spent 3 days compiling gnome2 for fbsd.. > It shouldn't take that long or be that hard/complicated. I recognized increased compiling times since FreeBSD 7. I was told that this is due to much more optimization in the compiler. Okay, this is understandable, but why do the compiledprograms run much slower (on the same hardware)? Answer: Bloat and many dependency dependencies. At least that's what I think. The developers of the FreeBSD OS do an excellent job delivering a system that runs faster and better on the same hardware, but all these advantages seem to be taken away by "modern" applications. That's why compiling stuff myself is nearly a no-go for my desktop. Only mplayer and mencoder (due to options that HAVE to be set at compile time, mostly involving codecs to include, as well as optimization). If you say that you needed 3 days for Gnome 2 - and I assume you own recent hardware - what should I say then with my more than 5 years old P4 / 2GHz? Compiling bigger applications won't be possible (in reasonable time) anymore in the future unless you buy a new computer every year... What a discouraging idea, I hope I'm not right with this. > Back to the gnome > install let it run again until the next application configuration screen. There's an option for avoiding this ugly interactivity. You can go through all imaginabel confire screens and set them first, then let the process run without requiring your presence. > You can't just do a make config in the meta port for the entire process.. > That would be too easy.. I think it is "make config-recursive"... > Last time I did a Xorg installed I just ended up doing a pkg_add because I > grew tired of the problems I kept having with ports griping about this and > that being outdated or whatever. Yes, pkg_add is very welcome to most users I know, incuding myself. The downside is that there are situations when there's no package for a port (e. g. due to legal reasons or the many different options). Can you imagine that in the past you could easily "pkg_add -r de-openoffice" to install the german version of OpenOffice? > My intention with fbsd wasn't for a desktop though; but why install linux to > get a feel for X(org) when we can do it on fbsd? Yet why should it feel like > I'm a circus poodle trying to make it work? Allthough it's not uncomplicated, it's not THAT complicated. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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