Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:10:46 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> To: Kristopher Yates <kris_yates64@hotmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: growfs HELP Message-ID: <20060929151046.GA657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F40D640BEFEEF02B613ADC9EB1B0@phx.gbl> References: <20060928191717.GA96965@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <BAY103-F40D640BEFEEF02B613ADC9EB1B0@phx.gbl>
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On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 05:36:28PM -0500, Kristopher Yates wrote: > > >It takes some knowledge to grow peanuts. > >If you want help, don't throw ignorance stones. > > Hey dude, > > You threw the first stone. I'm not Jesus. I'll throw one right back > 'atcha, old man. What stone? > >> >By the way, those are pretty small drives. I don't see any > >> >on the market nowdays less that 18 GB and more likely larger. > >> >Maybe you need some new hardware. > >> >///jerry > > After reading your initial response, I decided to create a new partition > and move the majority of /usr > to it. I dont have all day. Problem solved. I see in your last response > that we are agreeable technologically, at least as far as symlinking goes. > > Waste not, want not. > > ON a final note, democrats are just as corrupt as republicans. Don't go > whining about milking the cow dry being a problem with right wing fascists. > Left wing libs do the same thing all the time. Look at both sides of the > fence. God Bless the FBI. We should throw all the rich senators and > congressmen in jail. Talk about ignorant stones. I didn't know you > collected rocks! Yah, but in this case there was a specific group and they liked to be right wingers. The don't qualify as honest conservatives. ////jerry > > efilnikufecin and a long cold winter, > > Kris > > > >From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> > >To: Kristopher Yates <kris_yates64@hotmail.com> > >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: growfs HELP > >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:17:17 -0400 > > > >On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 01:54:26PM -0500, Kristopher Yates wrote: > > > >> Anyone else have any suggestions? > >> > >> I was thinking I could rewrite my partition table to what it was > >> originally, then growfs using the empty partionable space.. but I dont > >> exactly know how. I just had some docs I found online (URL is below). > >> Before I did fdisk -s, the 2.888GB was an empty partition of the drive > >> where I could have created a new partition.. but instead I did fdisk to > >> merge it all into the same partition. The docs I read said to do that, > >> then growfs.. I just didnt understand the vague explanation of doing > >the > >> math to determine the correct number of sectors to pass to growfs. > > > >> The docs I was using: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200111/growfs.html > >> > >> I know it is possible without doing all that you suggested. It should > >be a > >> matter of just executing growfs properly and I'm done. Otherwise, it > >would > >> be easier to just do a fresh install than to do all that you suggested. > >> Makes sense to me. I'd rather not have to reinstall. > > > >No, it is less trouble to do it the way I wrote. > >Doing the dd stuff is harder and anyway, may not result in what > >you want. > > > >Growfs is really not all that useful. > >Remember that you have to have empty space in the slice right > >contiguous to to the one you want to grow. You cannot just grab > >space from somewhere else on the disk and add it in. > > > >You could, if you have free space already within an existing > >file system, move some diectories, such as /usr/local out of /usr > >and put them[it] in the available space and create a sym link to > >the new location. > > > >But, if it is unused space that has not been part of a partition, you > >will remake the partition table with disklabel. If the space is right > >at the end of existing partitioned space, you might get away with it > >without redoing everything, but it is kind of an unadvisable thing > >to try, because what gets written back in the partition table for > >the existing partitions just might not line up exactly with their > >previous positions - you're expecting a new pointer to point to the > >same place as the old one. It could, but maybe a critical sector gets > >mapped out in the middle things. It would mess things up. > > > >So, > >> > >> My idea was to post here and get a better understanding, growfs and be > >done > >> with it. I didnt expect comments from the peanut gallery; ie. > > > >It takes some knowledge to grow peanuts. > >If you want help, don't throw ignorance stones. > >> > >> >By the way, those are pretty small drives. I don't see any > >> >on the market nowdays less that 18 GB and more likely larger. > >> >Maybe you need some new hardware. > >> >///jerry > >> > >> Not everyone has a kush job at the SCNC working with universities. > > > >What do you know about SCNC? Obviously nothing. > > > >> > >> A) Why does a box that is just running NATD and portsentry need an 18GB > >> hard drive and a faster processor? > > > >Whatever you want. > >> > >> B) Maybe you need to give me some money so that I may afford to build > >the > >> fancy firewall/gateway that you suggest. I almost appreciate your reply > >> but found your final remark to be rather condescending. > >> > >> My hardware is fine. It works and its all I have. This firewall box > >has > >> been online 24/7 since 1998 running FBSD just fine. Blow the dust out > >once > >> a year and "keep on trucking". > > > >Fine. > >I have a couple of those right here. > > > > > > > >> > >> Michigan has the 2nd worst economy in the US. I would think you would > >be > >> more understanding of my situation. Unfortunately, you have proven me > >> wrong. > > > >Because the previous governor abetted by his psuedo right-wing cronies > >in the state congress gutted the state's economy before he finally got > >term limited out. > > > > > >> Thanks to the FREEBSD community for continuing to be the leader in > >> backward-compatible support for old hardware. Long live the Pentium 60 > >and > >> the 640 ATA controller! ;) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Kris > >> > >> > >> > >> >From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> > >> >To: Kristopher Yates <kris_yates64@hotmail.com> > >> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> >Subject: Re: growfs HELP > >> >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:45:37 -0400 > >> > > >> >On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 03:26:27AM -0500, Kristopher Yates wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi everyone, > >> >> > >> >> First of all, glad to still be running FBSD after all these years. > >> >> > >> >> I tried following some docs I found online in order to make my /usr > >> >> partition bigger and made it all the way to growfs -s, which is where > >I > >> >got > >> >> stuck. > >> >> > >> >> First of all, here was my original dilema, what I did, then a > >descript > >> >of > >> >> where I am regarding growfs problem. > >> >> > >> >> System (aka firewall): Pentium60 40M RAM 2 NICS, running > >FBSD4.5-stable > >> >(a > >> >> great firewall running 24/7 since OCT 2000.) > >> >> > >> >> I tried to upgrade (make buildword make installworld to > >4.11-stable).. I > >> >> made the new world and installed the new kernel but not quite enough > >> >space > >> >> to do the last steps (mergemaster and then installworld). > >> >> > >> >> So I built a spare box, and installed FBSD on it. > >> >> > >> >> I put the hard drive from the firewall as secondary master, and a > >larger > >> >> drive as secondary slave. > >> >> > >> >> * I ran dd and imaged the old drive onto the new drive > >> >> > >> >> old drive seagate 1.2gb > >> >> new drive quantum 4.3gb > >> >> > >> >> * I put the new drive into the old faithful P60 (firewall). It boots > >up > >> >> fine running 4.11-p22 and is currently online as my firewall. > >> >> > >> >> What is left to do: > >> >> > >> >> Finish the 4.11 install which ended on make kernel > >KERNCONF=CUSTOMKERN.. > >> >I > >> >> just need to mergemaster then installworld as single user. > >> >> > >> >> Obviously, /usr partition (/dev/ad0s1f) is basically full w/ 8.6MB > >free. > >> >> > >> >> ** soo.. I did some fdisk magic and got stuck on the growfs (final > >step) > >> >in > >> >> order to growfs /usr > >> >> > >> >> fdisk reports my 1 partition @ full size of disk but no idea how to > >> >> properly use growfs. > >> > > >> >To use growfs you must have space in the slice contiguous with > >> >the partition you want to increase in size. It cannot just grow > >> >anywhere. You really did not want to move things using dd. > >> >You really wanted to build the new file systems to the sizes you > >> >want on the new disk and then use dump/restore to to the new > >> >partitions. > >> > > >> >First, fdisk the new disk and put the MBR on it and create your > >> >one slice on it and flag that as bootable. > >> > > >> >Then, use disklabel (in 4.xxx, bsd label in later versions of FreeBSD) > >> >to create your slices and also make it write out the boot sector. > >> >There is a block of examples in the disklabel/bsdlabel man page > >> >that tells how to use dd to make sure a drive is clean > >> >and then fdisk to make one slice with MBR and finally two disklabels > >> >to create the bootable partition and then to edit the partition > >> >table for all the partitions. That group of commands is just what > >> >you need. > >> > > >> >Then, do a newfs on each partition created (except swap) and > >> >then make a mount point for them. Mount the 'a' partition on > >> >something like '/newroot' for example and then run dump/restore > >> >to copy root > >> > cd /newroot > >> > dump 0af - / | restore -rf - > >> > > >> >Do the same dump/restore thing for each of the partitions/filesystems. > >> >Make sure you cd in to the base of each mounted new filesystem > >> >before doing the dump/restore and replace the '/' in the dump to > >> >be each filesystem - for example, for /usr, make a /newusr mountpoint > >> >mount it and then cd to /newusr and do 'dump 0af - /usr | restore -rf > >-' > >> > > >> >When you get done, you will have a fully useable, bootable copy of your > >> >machine on the new disk. Move the new disk to the primary boot > >> >position in your boot chain and start it up. > >> > > >> >By the way, those are pretty small drives. I don't see any > >> >on the market nowdays less that 18 GB and more likely larger. > >> >Maybe you need some new hardware. > >> > > >> >////jerry > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Here is what I have: > >> >> cylinders=8895 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945blks/cyl) > >> >> > >> >> media sector size 512 > >> >> > >> >> partition 1 sysid 165, start 63, size 8405712 (4104 Meg), flag 80 > >> >(active) > >> >> beg: cyl 0/head 1 / sector 1 > >> >> end: cyl 1023 / head 14 / sector 63 > >> >> > >> >> basically I need help filling in the following blank (/dev/ad0s1f == > >> >/usr > >> >> slice) > >> >> > >> >> # growfs -s ______ /dev/ad0s1f > >> >> > >> >> as shown above, fdisk sees the correct geometry as 4104MB partition > >but > >> >> /stand/sysinstall disklabel editor sees ad0s1 as 2888MB, which is the > >> >> amount of space I thought I was to be adding to /usr via growfs. > >> >Currently, > >> >> my /usr slice is 975MB and really needs to grow. :) > >> >> > >> >> Please let me know what other info I can provide that will help you > >help > >> >me > >> >> solve this problem. I have read man growfs and some docs online, > >> >however, > >> >> I'm stuck and dont know exactly how to resolve the problem. > >> >> > >> >> Much thanks, > >> >> > >> >> Kris > >> >> > >> >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> >> Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more?then map the > >best > >> >> route! http://local.live.com > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.? 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