Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 12:46:07 -0400 From: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> To: Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> Cc: Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Cert Message-ID: <CAGBxaXk-yTvN1mCXwSQtjVv4DAkjfMiQP%2BZGfLqExRa7Op6TOw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CY4PR19MB1655BFB2BEDA186543C3871FF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> References: <CY4PR19MB165585A7D4670DC49DB5523AF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAEJNuHxaPtoVqcn4Dc86Pi29pLbnFoicUo%2BR91E87W%2Br%2BkDbUA@mail.gmail.com> <20200527141409.5469f1a3.freebsd@edvax.de> <CY4PR19MB1655CA1BCE7309202A815605F9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaXnN5_vL%2BK4cAAwyaUVd=5-a1gqxzN-T4==Z%2BWkwkiM-RA@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655429A10A7CD70E9A7BEACF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaX=bNBkHQU8L0F-mq3D83CL1DSgMDZRE3_9cQ7ypRpEKzg@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655B064D097DAFECC492CA1F9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaXnkaRDZ84mff3KpABZdibNBgWZtnLTJjFUA7rUSmnxdcQ@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655D45BA9FFA743BE59FDFBF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaXnWSDs_PQJ=F8HQpz-r=AjyA-1=j1o_eBavdwJ7bhhX7Q@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655FA15206EBD85E8E754B2F9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaX=4%2BkOb6n38X9qSA5Hc-b9MNgL98zPdAPTw4sa2v=7Mbg@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB16551E5798F0C344FD2962A5F9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaX=s80PW4eyZDsFFYzw2vrXXkvXgn0z_bHf-AHNiRU_8vQ@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655BFB2BEDA186543C3871FF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:44 PM Brandon helsley < brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > Dead as in without a maintainer or as in completely broken? > If the second work with the current maintainer if the first just take maintainership and if both fix it and take maintainership > Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/blhgte>; > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:43:38 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:41 PM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Ok I'll check it out and get back to you. Btw there's a broken port called > freetnet. Can it be rescued? How do you go about fixing a broken port? > > > Sort answer: By any means necessary > Long answer: Figure out where to get the latest version of the source code > and do what is needed to bring it up to date and submit the port while > saying your taking maintainership (make sure it really is dead first by > attempting to contact the old maintainer first) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:38:56 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:35 PM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > So if I wanted to port Bote Mail from i2p I would just get the source code > and refer to their licensing on their website and contact them for clarity? > > > You should also read the semi official statement on what is compatible and > what isn't legally (I am not going to summerize it because that is where > the flamewar on licensing often starts): > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/bsdl-gpl/index.html > > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/blhgte>; > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 10:07:29 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:02 PM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I'll take that to mean that I can sign up with as little as I know. I'll > definitely be very quick to learn. How can I get started? > > > Step 1: Find some program that you think should be widely available to the > FreeBSD community > Step 2: Make sure it legally compatible with FreeBSD and it's licensing > model (I am not going to get into how to this to avoid starting a flame war) > Step 3: Get the source code for the program > Step 4: Using hand compiling (or how ever it wants to be built) get it to > compile/install cleanly including noting all the other ports it depends on > Step 5: Use the port system to automate step 4 > Step 6: Submit it to the bug tracking system as a new port so as to mark > it ready for a committer to review and commit it > Step 7: Make any changes the committer suggests > Step 8: Committer commits it and it is now officially a port > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 9:57:30 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:53 AM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Good to know, then I'll take it up to learn the basics. And to be a > committer? Does that require skills? > > > 1. The reason I suggested some of the things I have written but not made > into ports yet is I wrote them on FreeBSD so there is little or no > programming required to make them work as port (if there is then I did my > job wrong) and thus you can learn porting from the ground up and then move > to harder things that require programming > > 2. Being a committer is mostly being trusted by other committers to not > <bleep> things up when you put it in the master repository. Mostly this > comes from maintaining a lot of ports and showing superior knowledge of the > porting system along with being suitably risk adverse when updating the > master repo. > > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/blhgte>; > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 9:48:39 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:36 AM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > How much experience is necessarry? > I don't know anything about computers but got freebsd as a project to > learn as much as possible. If I were to get involved does "teaching the > ropes" at all possibly include learning other things like networking and > possibly and hopefully learning how to port software? > > > A lot of times (but by far from all the time) porting requires at least > basic programming skills since you often need to find parts of the code > that are incompatible with FreeBSD and make them compatible (you then > include a patch for the work in the port files). > > > > > Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/blhgte>; > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2020 8:33:10 AM > *To:* Brandon helsley <brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> > *Cc:* Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>; Polytropon < > freebsd@edvax.de>; Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions < > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> > *Subject:* Re: FreeBSD Cert > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 8:39 AM Brandon helsley < > brandon.helsley@hotmail.com> wrote: > > What about port maintainership. Or port mentee? What Is it exactly. Good > learning experience? > > > Yes/no/maybe is it worth and is it a good learning experience. > > A port maintainer as Mathew said is resonible for keeping a port in good > working order visa vie FreeBSD. A good example is when I took over > maintainership of devel/aegis it was to update to the latest released > version (the original author passed away in 2014 and no one has picked up > the ball to make new versions since despite a small group of hardcore users > [including my self]) and all was good then when FreeBSD started to phase > out the preference for GCC I had to make some patches to make it work with > LLVM, etc. > > Taking over a dead port is likely not as good of an learning experience as > making and maintaining a new one. Contact me privately I have some ideas > for stuff that can and should be ports that I haven't had time for (mostly > side projects relating to PetiteCloud that I can maintain via aegis but not > via ports due to not making the translation scripts completely yet) > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > > > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
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