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Date:      Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:47:41 +0700
From:      Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su>
To:        "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, rwmaillists@googlemail.com
Subject:   Re: Invalid DKIM signatures in this list
Message-ID:  <20181127154741.GA78157@admin.sibptus.ru>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.21.1811262239360.73628@ary.qy>
References:  <20181126185830.18005da3@gumby.homeunix.com> <20181126232835.4593A2008E8EE1@ary.qy> <20181127023143.GD79319@admin.sibptus.ru> <alpine.OSX.2.21.1811262143370.73325@ary.qy> <20181127033118.GA86646@admin.sibptus.ru> <alpine.OSX.2.21.1811262239360.73628@ary.qy>

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John R. Levine wrote:
>> Do you mean nobody cares? RFC6377 is dated September 2011, for all these
>> years nobody has tried to do something about FreeBSD's MLM breaking
>> signatures?
>
>Hey, the freebsd lists don't even limit posts to subscribers, which is
>about the most basic list anti-spam technique there is.

Last time I checked, they did (such a message was held for moderation). 

Or maybe not all freebsd lists. I'm not sure now that you have 
mentioned it. I just remember that a couple of times I happened to 
post to some freebsd list from a wrong E-mail address, and my message 
was held for moderation.

>>> Indeed, but I wouldn't take everything it says too seriously.
>>
>> But a fix to the MLM should be pretty trivial too?
>
>Hahahahaha.  The anti-DMARC hacks invented for various mailing lists range
>from bad to truly horrible.  There's plenty of info about them if you
>look.

I'm intrigued. As a person involved with all this stuff, can you 
recall a couple of truly horrible examples, or just suggest search 
keywords for me to find them on my own?

-- 
Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/



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