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Date:      Tue, 19 Jun 2001 05:13:52 -0700
From:      "Rick Moore" <rick@geckobot.com>
To:        "'Ted Mittelstaedt'" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, "'Erik Trulsson'" <ertr1013@student.uu.se>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Significant Performance Drop during 4.0-4.3 Upgrade
Message-ID:  <000201c0f8b9$4ea26e40$04fea8c0@patches>
In-Reply-To: <001001c0f88c$cb1c18e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>

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Hi Ted!

I am under the impression that I was running UDMA before, but I don't ever
recall verifying it.  Sorry I don't have a more definitive answer.  Using
sysctrl I've confirmed that I'm running UDMA now...

Rick



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:55 PM
> To: rick@geckobot.com; Erik Trulsson
> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: RE: Significant Performance Drop during 4.0-4.3 Upgrade
>
>
> Just a question,
>
>   Were you running ULTRA DMA under 4.0 or were you running PIO
> mode?
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
> Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
> Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick
> >Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:43 PM
> >To: Erik Trulsson
> >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> >Subject: Re: Significant Performance Drop during 4.0-4.3 Upgrade
> >
> >
> >Hi Erik-
> >
> >Thanks for responding so quickly!  Unless I did something wrong,
> >that didn't
> >seem to do the trick.  I sure thought it was going to work, though.
> >
> >I added the following line to /boot/defaults/loader.conf:
> >
> >hw.ata.wc="1"
> >
> >...and rebooted but the performance hasn't picked up to
> where it was with
> >FreeBSD 4.0.  It may have gone up some-- I haven't been tracking
> >the numbers
> >very closely.
> >
> >By coincidence, one of the three systems was upgraded to FreeBSD
> >4.3 STABLE
> >instead of RELEASE, and it too shows roughly the same
> performance metrics.
> >
> >If I didn't do this right, please let me know.  Otherwise if
> you or anyone
> >has other thoughts, I'd be happy to give them a try.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >BTW- I'm not sure it's worth mentioning, but I still don't see any
> >of this in
> >the 4.3 RELEASE notes...
> >
> >
> >
> >On Monday 18 June 2001 14:07, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:44:23PM -0700, Rick wrote:
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > I just upgraded 3 servers from 4.0 to 4.3 FreeBSD using
> >sysinstall, and I
> >> > noticed that some rm -r operations seemed a little slow after the
> >> > upgrade.
> >> >
> >> > Coincidentally I've been working on an ISAM alternative
> to B-tree so I
> >> > have a bunch of performance benchmarks handy.  The results:
> >> >
> >> > Disk hits are *much* slower after the upgrade.  Many
> times slower, in
> >> > fact. I also had Berkley DB benchmarks that I was using
> for comparison
> >> > and they too were heavily impacted.
> >> >
> >> > For the life of me, I can't figure out what the heck happened!
> >> > SOFTUPDATES were off before the upgrade and I didn't
> change of the disk
> >> > tuning.  I did tweak my kernel a bit, but nothing should
> have had this
> >> > effect-- I just removed a few things that weren't being
> used like EISA
> >> > and some network cards.  When I examine dmesg everything
> still seems to
> >> > be recognized as ULTRA DMA, etc.  I've tried putting
> everything back in
> >> > my kernel and I've try the GENERIC kernel with no improvements.
> >> >
> >> > I've looked through the release notes, etc., and couldn't find
> >anythingd
> >> > etailing this problem.  Did I miss something?  Am I just
> extra lucky?
> >>
> >> Yes, you missed one small thing.  Write caching for IDE disks were
> >> turned off by default in 4.3-RELEASE.  It has since been
> turned back on
> >> in 4.3-STABLE on since the performance hit was too big.
> >> (The reason it was turned off is that if you have the write-cache
> >> turned on can result in serious data-loss if you have a
> power failure.)
> >>
> >> You can turn it back on by setting hw.ata.wc=1 from the loader.
> >> See the manpages for ata(4) and loader(8) for more information.
> >
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