Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:33:01 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand <steve@ibctech.ca> To: Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, martes <martes@mgwigglesworth.com> Subject: Re: Spamassassin anyone??? Message-ID: <49F3737D.9030704@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <20090425201650.GC79909@in-addr.com> References: <1240615371.6029.34.camel@localhost> <20090425022227.GB79909@in-addr.com> <0000054941@mail.mgwigglesworth.com> <20090425201650.GC79909@in-addr.com>
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Gary Palmer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:59:48PM -0400, martes wrote: >> Sorry if this seems like a blinded assumption, however, whenever someone asks >> about the origin of explicit spam, such as the anti-semetic stuff that was >> posting to the list from an obviously mangled header source, someone always >> brings up that the lists are not proctared, as if there is not any management >> at all, and such obvious garbage is just going to post due to lack of >> supervision, or spam protocals... > > 1) Please do not top post > > 2) There are only two known methods for dropping 100% of spam > > 2a) Have a human sit and read every single e-mail and make a judgement > call that only a human can do as to the messages legitimacy. I am > not aware of any organization anywhere in the world that has > managed to get that system to scale to any volume. > > 2b) Turn off your SMTP server > > The lists are not *moderated*, other than the -announce lists and > freebsd-security-notifications. Most of the lists are open to > all posters and not just list members as not everyone who wants > to be involved in the project or who uses FreeBSD in some capacity > subscribes to the lists. The exception to that is freebsd-security. > > However do not take the lack of enforcement at the mailing list > level as there being no anti-spam measures. There are a variety > of A/S measures in place that protect not only the mailing list > servers but all freebsd.org e-mail addresses. > > If you, or anyone else, feels that they could contribute to the defeat > of spam on the FreeBSD lists (e.g. by being an active moderator with > a long-term commitment to minimising delays in posting caused by > the moderation system) then please feel free to offer your services > to the postmaster team. Amen to every single point in every single one of your comments. I'm sure that you will provide an update with those who respond to your request, that have both operational qualifications, and the time to spare, within the coming days... :) Steve ps. apologies for the sarcasm, but this is an ISP list for ISP operations people (so I thought). Perhaps the FBSD mail spam system has a ``qualified admit'' rule or something that they could apply. Cheers Gary, keep up the great work.
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