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Date:      Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:42:32 +0200
From:      =?UTF-8?B?S8O2dmVzZMOhbiBHw6Fib3I=?= <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <netchild@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org, emulation@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: The future of Gentoo ports
Message-ID:  <448C0FB8.2020100@t-hosting.hu>
In-Reply-To: <20060609111749.xl8dr4sq7ko8w80c@netchild.homeip.net>
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Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Kövesdán Gábor <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu> (from Fri, 09 Jun 
> 2006 10:57:25 +0200):
>
>> My idea is to repocopy and rename these ports like:
>> emulators/linux_base-gentoo-stage1 -> emulators/linux_dist-gentoo-stage1
>
> Since you are introducing a new class of linux ports, I like to take 
> the opportunity to ask for a bikeshed color...
>
> We have a mix of naming styles. linux-foo, linux_foo and 
> linux_foo-bar. Does it make sense to use an underscore here instead of 
> a minus sign? Should we read it as 'this is a "linux dist" port of 
> "gento" "stage1"', or should we read it as 'this is a "linux" port, it 
> is a "dist"ribution of "gentoo" "stage1"?
>
> The former is some kind of semantic-view, that later is more like a 
> consistent naming scheme.
>
>> This introduces a new group of ports (linux_dist*) that are complete
>> linux environment for cross-development, etc. At the same time a
>
> Sounds good.
>
>> WITH_LINUXBASE macro should be added for installing them into
>> ${LINUXBASE} and this requires a conditional CONFLICTS with another
>> linux_base ports.
>
> One of the first thoughts I had here is: via OPTIONS or not, what 
> would be better? And if using OPTIONS, is it possible to still use 
> CONFLICTS (evaluation order may be important here)?
>
> But I think you will solve this problem. :-)
>
>> If this has been accomplished, I also want to add then three metaports
>> as emulators/linux_base-gentoo-stage[123] for the old functionality,
>> this would install the ports with WITH_LINUXBASE set, but these
>> metaports can be set DEPRECATED without an EXPIRATION_DATE to just note
>> that the use of these are discouraged.
>
> There should be a comment explaining it near DEPRECATED then, so that 
> a committer doesn't decides to axe those ports.
>
>> Ideas and opinions from the lists are welcome!
>
> Sounds good. The pkg-descr should be changed to a sensible explanation 
> then. I try to come up with a good one for the default linux base port 
> which mentions the differences compared to the linux_dist port then.
>
So, here's the patch for linux_base-gentoo-stage1, I'll make patches for 
the other gentoo ports if you find it appropriate. As we discussed, the 
port should be repocopied to emulators/linux_dist-gentoo-stage1 first, 
and the this patch should be applied.
If WITH_LINUXBASE is unset, the package is called 
linux_dist-gentoo-stage1 and everything goes to ${PREFIX}/gentoo-stage1. 
If WITH_LINUXBASE is set it's called linux_base-gentoo-stage1 and 
installed under ${LINUXBASE} and in this case it conflicts with other 
linux_base ports. It works as intended in both cases, I've tested it in 
tinderbox, but if WITH_LINUXBASE is unset, tinderbox gives a warning but 
that doesn't make any sense, I suppose it is due to the dynamic plist, 
but that's correct, there aren't any left alone files after deinstalling 
this.

Gabor Kovesdan

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