Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 02:20:45 +0200 From: Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Cc: Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@ispro.net> Subject: Re: 100s of xorg ports, will there be an xorg-base port? Message-ID: <200707080220.46541.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <468F3062.2000001@ispro.net> References: <468EA80C.70208@ispro.net> <20070706231851.GS38748@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <468F3062.2000001@ispro.net>
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--nextPart2202226.5UXf444F5p Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 7. July 2007, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > Please explain what the problem is. If you choose to install the xorg > > metaport then the ports system will automatically fetch and install the > > dependencies. Exactly what aren't "most people" happy about? > > I guess it is mostly psychological but people do not tend to like a lot > of ports installed with each app as usually this means more difficulties > when upgrading etc. Maybe this is superficial but at the least it is > discouraging people from using X with FreeBSD or upgrading to 7.2. > People are not happy because of the simple reason that one has to > install 300-400 more ports (especially without a possibilit to select > what to not to install) to get X running nowadays. I believe this is pretty much a non-issue. X.org hasn't really grown in=20 complexity (at least as far as the end-user is concerned) or size just=20 because the monolithic ports are no more. I am rather certain future X.org= =20 updates won't be nearly as involved, if at all, as the monolithic 6.9 ->=20 modular 7.2 transition. Also I suspect you underestimate the problems a stripped down installation = of=20 X.org can bring on machines running the actual server, which seems to the=20 kind of installations you have in mind. X.org is not very good yet at telli= ng=20 exactly what is missing if some particular feature/extension or driver the= =20 user wants happens not to be installed, neither are most users familiar=20 enough with X to make a well-informed decision what components they really= =20 want when faced with an options menu. Augmenting X.org with some sort of plug'n'play front-end for hardware=20 detection and automatic driver installation therefore might be a worthwhile= =20 project, but it's probably outside the scope of a port Makefile. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2202226.5UXf444F5p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBGkC3eXhc68WspdLARAo10AJwIIg9s+A2g8nKXN9o49Hll1PEKkACfZ7aB XzqeHh0AkvKmSRcDkXn4L1Q= =r1Zd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2202226.5UXf444F5p--
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