Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:18:42 -0500 From: jhell <jhell@dataix.net> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why BSDs got no love Message-ID: <1443990337.20091226231842@dataix.net> In-Reply-To: <2fd864e0912250624s7f51b127r991342baf8487100@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B31D6F9.6040608@infracaninophile.co.uk> <200912231450.nBNEoP1q063542@fire.js.berklix.net> <20091225015252.GW2100@over-yonder.net> <2fd864e0912250624s7f51b127r991342baf8487100@mail.gmail.com>
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=0D=0AFriday, December 25, 2009, 9:24:25 AM, you wrote: > I think what we're looking at here is that sysinstall should probably > be replaced... but it works well enough that it doesn't *have* to be > replaced, and most people aren't bothered enough by it to write code > to come up with something new. Certainly, having things like zfs > support in sysinstall would be nice... but most of the people using > zfs boot know the system well enough to do it from the Fixit/LiveFS > shell anyway. > Basically... if you really want to see this change, I think you're > gonna have to do it yourself. Personally I would like to see something around the likes of shells/flash menu shell implemented with some modular scripting and drop-in binaries for other tasks that cannot be accomplished through the use of shell scripts as elegantly as they would in C. As for licensing of shells/flash I am unsure but it does bring the ease of scripting into play that can shield a user from some of the behind the scenes ugliness. Snip of the pkg-desc: Flash is an attempt to create a secure menu-driven shell for UNIX-derived O= Ses, while providing user-friendliness and easy configurability. An ideal situat= ion requiring the use of flash would be a student-run telnet server which needs= to: a) shelter the users from some of the nastiness of UNIX b) shelter the system from nasty users c) provide an easy way to launch applications d) support multitasking/job control as elegantly as possible e) support easy-to-get-right configuration by administrators ---- In that type of menu it would be easy to drop a script that asks: A) Would you like a GUI install menu... B) Would you like a CLI install menu... C) Get me out of here... ---- It also has a nice little notes side frame that could tell the user a little more about what is going on if they are confused about the choices that are selected. As for my self, I would be willing to contribute some bits & bytes to see this happen. As for the GUI I would be willing to write the hooks for it in the menu system but that is as far as I am willing to go with it. I don't see any satisfactory need or gain in GUI for just-a-installer. Best regards. --=20 Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:59:02 PM jhell
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