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Date:      Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:18:45 +0200
From:      =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= <ltning@anduin.net>
To:        Philip M. Gollucci <pgollucci@p6m7g8.com>
Cc:        Tim Gustafson <tjg@soe.ucsc.edu>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OpenSSL 0.9.8k -> 0.9.8l
Message-ID:  <6079C36A-480B-42E6-8717-E9436EFC1130@anduin.net>
In-Reply-To: <4BD10D03.7010201@p6m7g8.com>
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On Apr 23, 2010, at 4:59 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:

> On 4/21/2010 1:55 AM, Eirik =D8verby wrote:
>> It is a misconseption to think that one _has to_ run the latest =
version (as suggested by dumb network scans) in order to remain =
compliant (PCI DSS or otherwise). What is needed is that the issues =
found are either patched or documented to be not applicable.
> I completely agree; however, having just achieved PCI certification =
for
> $work in *this* month -- 2 different (unamed pci auditing firms) =
refused
> to accept openssl had been patched without version number changes.

Then you should report this to the PCI council.
Besides, a common problem with PCI DSS auditors is that they seem to =
think that the PCI council are their clients, not you, and subsequently =
treat you like trash. Fact is YOU are the client, you are paying for =
their service, and you should be paying for their expertise - which is =
often sorely lacking.

After asking for a Unix-knowledgeable auditor, we got a guy who had to =
ask - and required proof - that grep supported regular expressions.=20


> Kind of odd considering they said my httpd 2.2.14 was vunlerable to =
the
> windows mod_issapi cve on fbsd but accepted on face value that we =
can't
> possibly be since its not windows and not loaded.  Yet the version #
> didn't change here.
>=20
> Additionally odd, they did accept that 2.2.14 disabled ssl =
functionality
> to prevent the issue though not fix it.  Yet again the version # =
didn't
> change.

This is as it should be. Though they seem to have arrived at this =
conclusion through incompetency rather than through a pragmatic =
approach.


> Interestingly we have some other equipment that requires the client
> renegotiation but b/c we are leasing it rather then own it, its out of
> scope.

At this point they are wrong as well. Our VLAN switches were within =
scope (as they should be) even though they are simply a part of the ISP =
service. We even had to cut off remote management for the switches in =
order to ensure that the ISP could only manage them on-site and with our =
approval and presence.


> IMHO, its simply easier to always mod the version string in some way
> rather then trying to argue with them.

Wish I had thought about that one before ;)

/Eirik=



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